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Unread 19 Feb 2016, 12:30   #151
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Re: R65. Who wins?

The "fight" for #2 seems way more interesting to discuss.
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The "fight" for #2 seems way more interesting to discuss.
I think the fight for #3 seems more interesting pal! Gonna be a close race between CT p3ng and Norse!
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We both know p3nguins is more offensive than Ultores, so how would it be possible for Ult to outroid you so badly if you werent losing roids.
Unfortunately as I am sure you are aware having fought us in multiple rounds this round our attacking abilities are unusually dire. Hopefully we will work out what the problem is and sort it out sooner or later

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The "fight" for #2 seems way more interesting to discuss.
Is that not just the fight for first reversed?

I agree the fight for third could be interesting, or rather race as the participants are not really fighting each other.
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I agree the fight for third could be interesting, or rather race as the participants are not really fighting each other.
It is a race where eventually one of the participants decides to head backwards.
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Re: R65. Who wins?

It's a shame this thread has devolved into a mud slinging contest (though it is AD after all), rather than having a meaningful discussion on an issue that is oh so important. And while it is certainly unfair to put the onus on Ultores to change, do they not have the most to lose as the tag with the most active and involved players?

It's easy to say 'show some spine and 1v1', but that's ignoring reality. There is a gap in power and without something changing, we will have to keep teaming up on Ultores. Do we really want the rest of Planetarion's life to be like that? Surely even Ultores did not enjoy this round much.
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It's a shame this thread has devolved into a mud slinging contest (though it is AD after all), rather than having a meaningful discussion on an issue that is oh so important. And while it is certainly unfair to put the onus on Ultores to change, do they not have the most to lose as the tag with the most active and involved players?

It's easy to say 'show some spine and 1v1', but that's ignoring reality. There is a gap in power and without something changing, we will have to keep teaming up on Ultores. Do we really want the rest of Planetarion's life to be like that? Surely even Ultores did not enjoy this round much.
Well you are making it sound like this is something new and mindbreaking change to PA, sorry its not.

Ultores won R43-48, 6 rounds in a row.
Their next win was round 60, 11 rounds without a win, because i think the playerbase they had back then simply lost interest in being a "fulltime PA player".

Since R60 they have been able to recruit a big chunk of the "quality PA players" out there, and they are still a very attractive alliance for a "quality PA player" to join.

So two things are likely to happend:
Either the current Ultores PA player base gets borred of losing, and some of em join alliances where they can sit back and relax in order to attain a good planet ranks.
Or they keep on winning rounds untill:
A: Other tags keep making big enough blocks to ensure that they are outnumbered.
B: Someone is able to create a alliance on par with Ultores.

B is very unlikely to happend because the other quality players are spread out in diffrent alliances, and most of the time have issues with other "quality players" in other tags, and therefor dont wish to play with them.
There is no HC out there that can unite these players.
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Re: R65. Who wins?

Certain people need to stop classing heroes as ult. Heroes are heroes and only work with ult when they want as ult aren't complete dicks who out of desperation hit them for easy roids.

When I look at the member list I see names from the "troll tags" app and oddr... So obviously if trolls choose to play seriously and wake up when called agar3s and co are definitely doing something right.
So if ult can get trolls to wake up and send def then everyone else just needs to stop being so shit and stop crying tbh
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Well you are making it sound like this is something new and mindbreaking change to PA, sorry its not.

Ultores won R43-48, 6 rounds in a row.
Their next win was round 60, 11 rounds without a win, because i think the playerbase they had back then simply lost interest in being a "fulltime PA player".

Since R60 they have been able to recruit a big chunk of the "quality PA players" out there, and they are still a very attractive alliance for a "quality PA player" to join.

So two things are likely to happend:
Either the current Ultores PA player base gets borred of losing, and some of em join alliances where they can sit back and relax in order to attain a good planet ranks.
Or they keep on winning rounds untill:
A: Other tags keep making big enough blocks to ensure that they are outnumbered.
B: Someone is able to create a alliance on par with Ultores.

B is very unlikely to happend because the other quality players are spread out in diffrent alliances, and most of the time have issues with other "quality players" in other tags, and therefor dont wish to play with them.
There is no HC out there that can unite these players.
It's not that difficult to rival Ultores, you make it sound as if it's a impossible task. FAnG (won 1 round), Spore (won 1 round) & Black Flag (won 2 rounds) have all fought Ultores and won, but it takes severe dedication to fight a superior alliance like Ultores, and at the end of the day these tags just don't have the leadership to do it every round.

While I think it's time that this game finally retires, I do hope another alliance forms capable of rivalling Ultores, but as all capable HCs of doing this have retired from the game, it's very doubtful.
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It's not that difficult to rival Ultores, you make it sound as if it's a impossible task. FAnG (won 1 round), Spore (won 1 round) & Black Flag (won 2 rounds) have all fought Ultores and won, but it takes severe dedication to fight a superior alliance like Ultores, and at the end of the day these tags just don't have the leadership to do it every round.

While I think it's time that this game finally retires, I do hope another alliance forms capable of rivalling Ultores, but as all capable HCs of doing this have retired from the game, it's very doubtful.
Well obviously, they can be beaten.
NewDawn won two rounds, Facless one, CT one, p3nguins two, etc aswell, but clearly they were not as strong back then as they are now.
To be able to be a "stable contender" you need to have good defence, and good offence.
P3nguins/ND/CT have recently had very bad defence.
Faceless just seems to not be lucky with politics, meanwhile they are not that bad at defending/attacking
BowS have been good defensively, but lacked political luck and offense.
Norse has just been going by on not having any incs this round by the looks of it, and its unlikely to be a winning formulae.

Sure, FAnG was a good alliance, but they eventualy were victims of their own members conspiaring against each other, trying to get each others gals/planets roided, from internal conflicts and gal agendas.
Spore/ND/BF obviously suffered from having someone retire who kept the wheels turning, and p3nguins only won round were there was not one or two superstrong allies out there.

It might sounds cynical, but the way to make this game more "fun" is to ensure Ultores is not 1 tier above everyone else, and that means keep on blocking em to death untill their members gets bored and deflects to other tags to get better planet rankings .
Hoping a "good alliance" is suddently gonna appear is fools hope
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Re: R65. Who wins?

You're right in saying this isn't new, Ascendancy was a league or two above the rest until Apprime was formed back in r32. And I'm not saying they're impossible to beat, they may even lose this round, but the gap of power (or competence, really) makes the round's politics rather one sided for the majority.

I'm sure Norsemen have been enjoying themselves though.
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I might be biased because I was in Ascendancy for some of those rounds (though I fought them for some too) but because of the much larger playerbase (around 1.5k then iirc) a very large number of people were barely involved in the competition at the top. It therefore had much less influence on most individuals. You could have a good top 100 rank while ignoring ally wars entirely and being entirely ignorant of it!
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I might be biased because I was in Ascendancy for some of those rounds (though I fought them for some too) but because of the much larger playerbase (around 1.5k then iirc) a very large number of people were barely involved in the competition at the top. It therefore had much less influence on most individuals. You could have a good top 100 rank while ignoring ally wars entirely and being entirely ignorant of it!
Yes that's the problem the game's facing nowadays. Due to the sheer low number of players, almost, if not all, alliances are dragged into the fight for #1.

Planetarion would be so much more enjoyable if you didn't 'have to' participate in wars for the top spot, and unfortunately unless the game sees a drastic increase in players and alliances, there will always be blocks picking on one alliance at a time, on both sides.

Planetarion was more fun when there were 1k+ active players, but now the game is stuck in a cycle of never-ending block wars which involves the entire universe. Bit boring!
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You should know your members after so many rounds and know which ones show up when. So you could use the right ships for the right calls.
It's been almost a decade since I last DC'ed an alliance (god I'm old), but the technical work of taking offered fleets and assigning them to cover incs is pretty easy. You open a bunch of bcalcs and work from there. If you know the stats well enough, you don't even need to do that. Just cover incomings by gut feeling, by using the fleets that are only available for a couple of minutes. Double-check later in the tick with the bcalc, then plug the holes you left with one of the handful of fleets that are around all night long.

That's all you need to be a good DC, really. Keep in mind, you need more than just a good DC to defend effectively: you need a responsive player base. If your DC has to spend all tick spamcalling people to try to get them to wake up, you won't get anything done. Great DC + useless players = useless alliance (the ROCK syndrome). Mediocre DC + available players = good alliance.

The step from good DC to great DC is harder. It's knowing who to call when. That's not about figuring out who has ships and fleets free, you can see that ingame (nowadays). It's knowing that you don't need to wake up person A, because they get up in 10-20 minutes anyway, but only on weekdays. It's knowing that calling person B is alright, but if you do it more than once a week, you'll piss them off. It's knowing that person C can be asked in advance to check on PA at a certain time so they'll show up when you need them. It's knowing that if person D has sent a fleet to an uncovered inc, it's time to panic, because their morning response time is approximately a million ticks. It's knowing that person E may never grace the top 50 but is consistent as ****, and you don't ever have to worry about them doing anything dumb. It's knowing that person F is ready to take one for the team if you send them on an incoming that's only just covered, and a land would hurt on all sides. There's 60+ people in your alliance, and you need to understand their quirks well enough to work with them efficiently.

I've played with 500+ people over the years. Out of all of them, I can think of exactly 2 people I'd call 'great DCs'. I'm sure there's a few others, but I'm sure no more than a handful ever played PA.


P.S. You kids have it so easy these days. I used to have to keep a notepad open at all times to keep track of shit, but the ingame defense tools are really nice, so that's not needed any more. And remember when you had no way of knowing if someone sent or not until after the tick? And callbots? Back in my day, DCs would have to chisel IRC highlights out of solid granite tablets, then deliver them to the players in person. Going uphill both ways! Get the **** off my lawn.
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It's been almost a decade since I last DC'ed an alliance (god I'm old), but the technical work of taking offered fleets and assigning them to cover incs is pretty easy. You open a bunch of bcalcs and work from there. If you know the stats well enough, you don't even need to do that. Just cover incomings by gut feeling, by using the fleets that are only available for a couple of minutes. Double-check later in the tick with the bcalc, then plug the holes you left with one of the handful of fleets that are around all night long.

That's all you need to be a good DC, really. Keep in mind, you need more than just a good DC to defend effectively: you need a responsive player base. If your DC has to spend all tick spamcalling people to try to get them to wake up, you won't get anything done. Great DC + useless players = useless alliance (the ROCK syndrome). Mediocre DC + available players = good alliance.

The step from good DC to great DC is harder. It's knowing who to call when. That's not about figuring out who has ships and fleets free, you can see that ingame (nowadays). It's knowing that you don't need to wake up person A, because they get up in 10-20 minutes anyway, but only on weekdays. It's knowing that calling person B is alright, but if you do it more than once a week, you'll piss them off. It's knowing that person C can be asked in advance to check on PA at a certain time so they'll show up when you need them. It's knowing that if person D has sent a fleet to an uncovered inc, it's time to panic, because their morning response time is approximately a million ticks. It's knowing that person E may never grace the top 50 but is consistent as ****, and you don't ever have to worry about them doing anything dumb. It's knowing that person F is ready to take one for the team if you send them on an incoming that's only just covered, and a land would hurt on all sides. There's 60+ people in your alliance, and you need to understand their quirks well enough to work with them efficiently.

I've played with 500+ people over the years. Out of all of them, I can think of exactly 2 people I'd call 'great DCs'. I'm sure there's a few others, but I'm sure no more than a handful ever played PA.


P.S. You kids have it so easy these days. I used to have to keep a notepad open at all times to keep track of shit, but the ingame defense tools are really nice, so that's not needed any more. And remember when you had no way of knowing if someone sent or not until after the tick? And callbots? Back in my day, DCs would have to chisel IRC highlights out of solid granite tablets, then deliver them to the players in person. Going uphill both ways! Get the **** off my lawn.
Yes with the ingame tools DCing became alot easier. It is like I said though, if you know your members and when they wake up, when they can be rang and how often they can be rang you can get the most out of them. If you are the main HC of an alliance I expect you to know your members and know how and when to use them.
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Yes with the ingame tools DCing became alot easier. It is like I said though, if you know your members and when they wake up, when they can be rang and how often they can be rang you can get the most out of them. If you are the main HC of an alliance I expect you to know your members and know how and when to use them.
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Clouds..

The red tail in every comment you post is to make ppl want to leave this game?

People will play this game for the communities, take some rounds active, some rounds afk or whatnot. But this game still gives ppl joy, headache, anger, frustration all what you want for nerds to enjoy life a little more.

Whats more pathetic than us still playing this game, is someone who has left the game being more active on the forums just badmouthing everything about it.

Go and pretend like you enjoy ad2460 like all the ex black-flag.
9/10 players i ask who has tried it says it sux, yet you guys ofc have to say it shines since you spend time on it.

You know i generally like you tho, but drop the red line of despair
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Re: R65. Who wins?

I've made two or three posts in the last two weeks or so, I'd hardly call that being active on the forums. I'm voicing my opinion on the game that relates to the current political state, and if I want to get my point across, I will. If you can't handle my views, whether they are negative or not, then that's your issue.

And for the record, I'm not playing ad2460 that actively, so I'm not too sure why you're trying to use that game to insult me.

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Haha "political luck"
Yeah like ND following CT/p3ng.to what ever end.
Having a "support tag" is rather lucky
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Re: R65. Who wins?

Judging by the last two days of p3n hitting bows the change that would serve bows best is to reduce the amount of crashing.
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Judging by the last two days of p3n hitting bows the change that would serve bows best is to reduce the amount of crashing.
I have no clue about any alliance this round, as im no longer BowS i cant comment on that.
I was basing what i said on the previous 5 rounds or so.
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Re: R65. Who wins?

They picked the wrong side and then chose to not deal with those on the other.

Those types of political move benefit the 1 guy going for the ally win but it doesn't serve any purpose for bows.

I think bows have been utterly terrible at sticking to agreements the past few rounds. I know they broke our agreement twice this round and the same seemed to have happened towards ct and nd at various points after wars . All in all they just make small mistakes that accumulate to big problems for them at the end.
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They picked the wrong side and then chose to not deal with those on the other.

Those types of political move benefit the 1 guy going for the ally win but it doesn't serve any purpose for bows.

I think bows have been utterly terrible at sticking to agreements the past few rounds. I know they broke our agreement twice this round and the same seemed to have happened towards ct and nd at various points after wars . All in all they just make small mistakes that accumulate to big problems for them at the end.
"They picked the wrong side"

You made a block including 230 of the 641 signed up planets, leaving a total of 257 other planets in tags with more than 5 members to counter your block. The only other full tag that could have gone against you was rainbows. I think you gave rainbows little choice when you set up your block at tick 500. Personally I find it pathetic you call making the sides a bit more even wrong. Guess you d rather have gangbangs go around all round and get lucky with the draw for ally win?
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They picked the wrong side and then chose to not deal with those on the other.

Those types of political move benefit the 1 guy going for the ally win but it doesn't serve any purpose for bows.

I think bows have been utterly terrible at sticking to agreements the past few rounds. I know they broke our agreement twice this round and the same seemed to have happened towards ct and nd at various points after wars . All in all they just make small mistakes that accumulate to big problems for them at the end.
Couldnt agree more, except that BowS used to always stick with the deals.
In NDs case the last time they accused bows for not sticking with deals they simply didnt give bows the coordlist.
Deals are only valid untill the timelimit runs out, or when the cooldown is over
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"They picked the wrong side"

You made a block including 230 of the 641 signed up planets, leaving a total of 257 other planets in tags with more than 5 members to counter your block. The only other full tag that could have gone against you was rainbows. I think you gave rainbows little choice when you set up your block at tick 500. Personally I find it pathetic you call making the sides a bit more even wrong. Guess you d rather have gangbangs go around all round and get lucky with the draw for ally win?

They would be wiser to join the anti Ult block, making it 290.
Lets be real, there was many in bows who prefer to be working Ult just because the recent record suggest they are unlikely to backstab, and being "pro ult" resulted in them being frozen out
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I dont understand your comment agar3s. Bows DIDNT need to get involved at all. The anti ult alliances wouldnt have bothered with them, the same way as we arent bothered with norse.

Once again you can moan about being outnumbered but at the time there was p3nguins hitting you tick 500 as you had deals with faceless/nd with CT not wanting to get too involved at that point due to their war with rainbows.

From what I see at tick 500 p3nguins had 55 members vs 60 ultores + 20 ast + the other out of tags you had (we had 8 more in intel). Why would p3nguins not request help from another tag when it's 55 vs 80+?

Right now you have HR, Bows, Ult, Norse (on and off), Ast, Boom, VGN vs p3ng, ct, nd, fl. Thats 233 (without norse) vs 227. This has never been an unbalanced war, you are just completely uncoordinated.

Bows send 3 ticks before you, they defend you and they get hit without any help from you.

Bows are the fools for following ultores.
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Re: R65. Who wins?

Difference seeming to be is that our side functions as a team for everyone's interest, while other side (apart from Norse) functions pure for Ult.

EDIT: added apart from Norse
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Difference seeming to be is that our side functions as a team for everyone's interest, while other side (apart from Norse) functions pure for Ult.

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HR surely dont work for anyone, not even themself
Its pretty easy to achieve a goal as a team if its "to make sure ult dont win"
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By 'pretty easy' you mean it takes 4+ alliances 600 ticks to achieve it. Maybe.
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By 'pretty easy' you mean it takes 4+ alliances 600 ticks to achieve it. Maybe.
Ult have not been alone, and their block is failing on keeping Ult #1 which is their goal.
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By 'pretty easy' you mean it takes 4+ alliances 600 ticks to achieve it. Maybe.


40 counted score is a big factor here it would be much easier to kill off an ally like norse where every member they have makes their counted score up. If you kill an ult member then it's likely another guy just outside their top 40 takes the place. If you see how much value ult has crashed in the last two weeks you'll probably see what I'm trying to get at. There's loads of lost value but little effect on score. Couple that with out of tag planets you can add in to replace some of the planets who drop out of top 40 and you can keep a solid 40 man tag alive for ages.
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Yes, that is my belief from what I've seen. All apart from Norse and propably HR and VGN, they're playing for Ult to win.
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I dont understand your comment agar3s. Bows DIDNT need to get involved at all. The anti ult alliances wouldnt have bothered with them, the same way as we arent bothered with norse.

Once again you can moan about being outnumbered but at the time there was p3nguins hitting you tick 500 as you had deals with faceless/nd with CT not wanting to get too involved at that point due to their war with rainbows.

From what I see at tick 500 p3nguins had 55 members vs 60 ultores + 20 ast + the other out of tags you had (we had 8 more in intel). Why would p3nguins not request help from another tag when it's 55 vs 80+?

Right now you have HR, Bows, Ult, Norse (on and off), Ast, Boom, VGN vs p3ng, ct, nd, fl. Thats 233 (without norse) vs 227. This has never been an unbalanced war, you are just completely uncoordinated.

Bows send 3 ticks before you, they defend you and they get hit without any help from you.

Bows are the fools for following ultores.
Even though half of your statements are false, you just stated it was even. Why would you try to make it uneven?
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Yes, that is my belief from what I've seen. All apart from Norse and propably HR and VGN, they're playing for Ult to win.
CT,ND,FL,P3ng have played for Ult not winning as their goal since tick 500. Such a noble goal to have. Let me guess, you never seen consistant incs have you.
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Even though half of your statements are false, you just stated it was even. Why would you try to make it uneven?
Clarify. Unless someone else is willing to for you.
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Yes, that is my belief from what I've seen. All apart from Norse and propably HR and VGN, they're playing for Ult to win.
VGN has actually hit us quite a lot, just because a tag isn't part of your special little band, doesn't mean they're allied to us
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40 counted score is a big factor here it would be much easier to kill off an ally like norse where every member they have makes their counted score up. If you kill an ult member then it's likely another guy just outside their top 40 takes the place. If you see how much value ult has crashed in the last two weeks you'll probably see what I'm trying to get at. There's loads of lost value but little effect on score. Couple that with out of tag planets you can add in to replace some of the planets who drop out of top 40 and you can keep a solid 40 man tag alive for ages.
Surely this must be one of the most insightfull post on quite sometine. Lets hope Krypton and everyone else who cried for a change to the tag sizes read this and take note.
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CT,ND,FL,P3ng have played for Ult not winning as their goal since tick 500. Such a noble goal to have. Let me guess, you never seen consistant incs have you.
Well if the future of PA would be better if Ult dont win every roumd, sure its a very noble goal.
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Clarify. Unless someone else is willing to for you.
You state it has been balanced, why do you say it is/was a mistake for allies to have made it balanced?
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Well if the future of PA would be better if Ult dont win every roumd, sure its a very noble goal.
Alliances could try and improve their structure. If penguins/faceless/conspiracy could show the growth nd has shown this round they might be able to actually compete without needing to nap 75% of the universe.
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Alliances could try and improve their structure. If penguins/faceless/conspiracy could show the growth nd has shown this round they might be able to actually compete without needing to nap 75% of the universe.
NDs growth is built on almost only roiding Ult, and you are well aware of this, its kinda funny you even bring this up.
Its like claiming people should try look to norse to learn how to improve
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eksero noted, my bad with the VGN part. I read from somewhere here that they are, assuming ppl were seeing them as part of inc every day. Sorry for mixing in 10 more planets on your side.

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After 64 rounds of PA, ND have seen quite much inc. We have actually seen inc on a whole different scale than Ult ever has, as we played prior to PAX. And we have gotten our fair slammings later on too, but not managed as well as you guys. All hats off for that.

There's alot more behind this than "Ult not winning". But yes, it's a part for sure. We've seen other tags set similar goals vs. others in rounds, maybe even Ultores have done this? Not as a block, but as ally. From ND part, we can't win due to our activity, so our aims are different. Ultores have noted this inactivity and like pecking on us.....alot more than p3n, FL, CT etc. You guys did it the most, even mixing in while we were warring bows. That's why it's very logic where we stand.

And as stated earlier, you have never been alone. You have had your support tags and out of tag planets right from the start, and bows for most part of the round. In a sense, this can be even viewed as a counterblock.

EDIT: Apparently left out the o there in counterblock, not bad typo I'd say
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Even though half of your statements are false, you just stated it was even. Why would you try to make it uneven?
Agar I know math isn't your strong suit delivering papers doesn't quite need it but 55 does not = 80+. In fact 55<80+
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eksero noted, my bad with the VGN part. I read from somewhere here that they are, assuming ppl were seeing them as part of inc every day. Sorry for mixing in 10 more planets on your side.



After 64 rounds of PA, ND have seen quite much inc. We have actually seen inc on a whole different scale than Ult ever has, as we played prior to PAX. And we have gotten our fair slammings later on too, but not managed as well as you guys. All hats off for that.

There's alot more behind this than "Ult not winning". But yes, it's a part for sure. We've seen other tags set similar goals vs. others in rounds, maybe even Ultores have done this? Not as a block, but as ally. From ND part, we can't win due to our activity, so our aims are different. Ultores have noted this inactivity and like pecking on us.....alot more than p3n, FL, CT etc. You guys did it the most, even mixing in while we were warring bows. That's why it's very logic where we stand.

And as stated earlier, you have never been alone. You have had your support tags and out of tag planets right from the start, and bows for most part of the round. In a sense, this can be even viewed as a ****erblock.
"support tags"
Clearly you have not paid much attention. Getting 1 fleet from a tag not in your block does not mean they are supporting Ult.

If I remember correctly you used to be a planet that only built defships and no pods to help ND. Yet ND HC(Rap) claims when Ult does it, it is cheating.

Having allies does not mean you coordinate attacks, a block does joint attacks against another alliance to beat it. Otherwise most of the alliances on your side of the block, went into the round blocked up. Also when Ult hit nd for the first time Rap was involved in creating an active block against Ult already.

P3nguins stated 8 out of tag planets for Ult, you claim out of tag planets for Ult too. Please share the coords with me instead of making up excuses.
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Agar I know math isn't your strong suit delivering papers doesn't quite need it but 55 does not = 80+. In fact 55<80+
I know you have trouble reading through posts but its ok. We are talking about even blocks. Cause yes that involves more than penguins.

PS: Like I just said to Buly, when you get 1 fleet from another tag. It does not make them a support tag.
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Re: R65. Who wins?

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Originally Posted by ReaperSix View Post
Agar I know math isn't your strong suit delivering papers doesn't quite need it but 55 does not = 80+. In fact 55<80+
Wait wait wait. Was it not you that was pathetic enough to add my phonenumber to the P3nguins callbot? Or which P3nguin was that again.
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