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Unread 4 May 2005, 22:57   #1
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Mr. Teacher

Had a job interview today in West London (not naming the school).

Got it.

Hurrah for me.

Going to be a proper ICT Teacher as of September 2005.

Quite a "challenging" school, but will hopefully be up to the task... apparently they liked me because I was "energetic" and "eager to do the job well".

The fact I was on a sugar high from glugging coca cola all day probably helped me being energetic. I didn't tell them that though.

£25k starting salary and a free laptop. Not that that's important, but if I used all the teacher jargon about the job you guys wouldn't understand it or care, so that's an indication of the job in comparison to others.

The pay is high because it's an incentive (London jobs aren't very popular amongst teachers), plus the school is being moved into a huge new complex.

I'm pretty chuffed.

Although I'm still wondering if I'm up to such a huge job - London schools are renowned for being difficult to teach in. Time will tell, I suppose!
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Unread 4 May 2005, 23:05   #2
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I think Tom can teach us all* something about pulling 16 year olds.

















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my interview today went well too
But gotta wait to hear back from them. I might have done badly... Who knows
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A good friend of mine is teaching (Second year of degree) in a school in West London.

She, however, says the kids she has to deal with are a nightmare.

I pray yours are better behaved.

Congrats though.
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Well done Tomkat
It's clearly good-news-day on GD today.

Huzzah.
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Congrats, hope it goes well for you.
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well done tomkat

25k a year is not to be sneezed at!
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lets just hope Tomkat isn't next
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West London is immeasurably better than East London from my personal experience.
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I suppose i can't really comment as i've only been to the 'posher' areas of West London and the 'shitter' areas of East London.

I know there are some drab areas in West London, i don't know however, if there any are decent areas in East London.

I'm off to Oslo in the summer so i take i should stick to the West side then?
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Who knows.

Central London is harder than Greater London though (I'll be in Greater London) apparently.

And no, I haven't been fired. I'm just in school placements at the moment, I'm not employed.
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Like Oslo then. More posh?

I've heard it's the opposite in New York, with the East Side being the most classy. But I could very well be wrong.
the east wind is the prevailing wind in the northern hemisphere )if anyone feels like posting that its also prevailing in the southern, don't. no body cares about the southern hemisphere, its a big shit hole)

as such cities in the northern hemisphere invariably have their poor quater located in the eastern section, because the smell wafts that way.

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Less talking about cities I've never visited, more talking about me and my new job thanks
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I'm moving schools to stalk you, Mister Kat. Actually, I probably could seeing as I haven't formally accepted any post-16 options yet! Though I have applied to a college abroad but this'd work too!
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Where abouts in West London? Which borough?

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good job dude!! DOn't fall in love with students!!
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Congratulations TomKat, I think it'll be good experience for you. As long as you don't completely lose it, then when you want to move schools in a few years time, you'll be in a better position to choose. Just don't get stressed
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congrats Tomkat.

I sure any new teacher job is going to be difficult. In West London they are supposed to be terrible schools but it you teach well I'm sure it wont be that bad.

My Uncle use to teach in East London, his only problem was getting out of the job in London because of the lack of teachers. However, that was 9years ago. London schools are really well funded now.

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Thanks guys <3

And it's in Ealing, Dante.
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Information and communications technology.


At least it is in Ireland.
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That's not even a real subject fs
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It's a real subject now! Or so says the government and the national curriculum!

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That's not even a real subject fs
If we are going to have the sort of education system we have now, we might as well teach kids something vaguely applicable in the workplace. It's fair to say that I learnt more in my IT GCSE that was useful to me now than I learnt in English, German, Geography or Maths GCSEs.
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GL TomKat!

Im sure you will be alright.

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i'm wondering how long it'll be before tomkat is arrested after london police find video evidence of him 'educating' some teenage girls good and proper.
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If we are going to have the sort of education system we have now, we might as well teach kids something vaguely applicable in the workplace. It's fair to say that I learnt more in my IT GCSE that was useful to me now than I learnt in English, German, Geography or Maths GCSEs.
I fully agree.
Teaching someone how to use simple things like Google, especially to a decent level, is, to me, infinitely* more useful than learning, say French both in terms of how much you'll use it and how much more productive it makes you.




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It is perfectly possible to learn to use Google without government sponsership.
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It is perfectly possible to learn to use Google without government sponsership.
It's perfectly possible to learn anything without government sponsorship - what's your point exactly?
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It is perfectly possible to learn to use Google without government sponsership.
There are a surprising amount of little tricks that common users of Google such as you or I use.

Stuff like putting in just the required words, and not entire sentences that might give crap results. Stuff like using alternative words to find your answer. Things like not just going to the first link and copy-pasting info from there.

Then there's all the stuff like "AND", "OR", using ".

I did a lesson with a bunch of year 8s last term, just asking them to find general trivia from the internet that I set. Quite a few of them struggled with things you or I would find in a matter of seconds.
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would you believe that i actually got put through a course at work that was basically how to use google to find stuff
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It's perfectly possible to learn anything without government sponsorship - what's your point exactly?
That there is a perfectly obvious and reasonable difference between learning French and 'learning' Google.
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That there is a perfectly obvious and reasonable difference between learning French and 'learning' Google.
One is useful and the other not so?
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That there is a perfectly obvious and reasonable difference between learning French and 'learning' Google.
Yes, the skills that you would acquire in learning to use google most effectively as a resource (ability to search information effectively, knowledge of sources et al) are useful in other subjects.

Learning French is highly specific, and doesn't teach any abilities that are transferrable.
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Ine is useful and the other not so?
I cannot for the life of me understand how comprehension of Google's many (admittedly marvellous) facets has suddenly become more useful than a foreign language. It is perfectly reasonable to suggest that a good understanding of a foreign language is a great addition to anyone's CV. We can all see that Europe is becoming more integrated. No matter the proliferation of the English language, it is safe to say that other not all of Europe speaks English as their first language (or wants to).
Moreover, and equally as importantly, an understanding of a foreign language broadens one's outlook on life; culturally, and academically, in terms of literature, films etc.

I cannot see how this is even debatable.
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Learning French is highly specific, and doesn't teach any abilities that are transferrable.
That is absurd. Absolutely bang-your-head-against-a-brick-wall absurd.
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Learning languages is fairly transferable, especially with so few native english speakers actually knowing any basic grammar. To most people though, who aren't going to have jobs requiring a foreign language to be spoken, being able to find useful information from the Internet is going to be a lot more useful.
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That is absurd. Absolutely bang-your-head-against-a-brick-wall absurd.
I learned more transferrable knowledge in Latin than I did in French, which is quite sad really. For French.
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would you believe that i actually got put through a course at work that was basically how to use google to find stuff
We had one of those at uni. It was listed as a compulsary IT session so i thought it would cover some complex statistical software for biology or something along those lines. When it started off with 'this is Google and people use it to search for things on the internet' i knew i was in for a boring day .
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