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Unread 8 Jul 2014, 00:35   #751
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Who said we are without friends?
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Unread 8 Jul 2014, 00:38   #752
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Sorry big butch, didn't mean to make it sound like it was over! I suspect we'll hatch a fresh plan to resist every ult/fl/p3n/ct fleet once the hc have combed over all that incoherent gibberish you've been posting for the past decade
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Who said we are without friends?
your hc earlier in this thread i think. if you have friends then great but if you'd like them to act as a deterrent next time then you should probably invite them round before you've been smashed to pieces.
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Sorry big butch, didn't mean to make it sound like it was over! I suspect we'll hatch a fresh plan to resist every ult/fl/p3n/ct fleet once the hc have combed over all that incoherent gibberish you've been posting for the past decade
SummerFAnG allready offered BF help, but your HC have slapped away any helping hand theyve been offered, and instead trying to troll p3n(as it wasnt enough blocking against them)
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I'm with you butch.
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I'm with you butch.
Too bad you aint doing their politics, the offer from summerfan still stands.
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Only if you get Lionet on board.
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Sounds like Oil and BF is realy cracking up. What a suprise.
The round is not over, yet you make it sound like it
Connovar already trumpeted their defeat a couple pages back, before the attacks on them even started. Knowing you will get hit, and knowing you will fail are two vastly distinct pathways of thought. I guess we know which path they chose :/
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Unread 8 Jul 2014, 03:24   #759
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-p3n want revenge and have turned down all attempts at a nap
-ult are going to win the round if they hit us
-fl just turned down our last ditch attempt to prevent them hitting us

In a conceptual sense there is a difference between calling this certain defeat, and recognising the situation is not insurmountable (you could all die of diabetes overnight, or Ace could decide to give bf a billion res), but any meaningful distinction rests purely on you pretending that adversity is just a static quantity that can always be turned around if you just recite enough sun tzu quotes to yourself whilst the bullet flits through your eyeball. It isn't.
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-p3n want revenge and have turned down all attempts at a nap
-ult are going to win the round if they hit us
-fl just turned down our last ditch attempt to prevent them hitting us

In a conceptual sense there is a difference between calling this certain defeat, and recognising the situation is not insurmountable (you could all die of diabetes overnight, or Ace could decide to give bf a billion res), but any meaningful distinction rests purely on you pretending that adversity is just a static quantity that can always be turned around if you just recite enough sun tzu quotes to yourself whilst the bullet flits through your eyeball. It isn't.
As you keep on quoting, trustworthy allies is what it is all about. Took Black Flag 1 round to show they will backstab you at every turn given the chance.
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Unread 8 Jul 2014, 06:44   #761
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Sad to see a number one ally crash its value so hard within two days it gives away its lead. I was hoping that bf defence was better but I guess when p3ng were landing you with 35 attack fleets the writing was on the wall. Perhaps just use run and hide for a few days? You are likely to come out much better off than the current value death tactics
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Re: R57 gossip thread

it's part of their master plan, offload all their roids in a short time then block will stop hitting them and turn on each other. then join the bigger block and continue what they've been doing all round.

rumor mill says they have already got some pals to help them vs ultores tomorrow, question is are said allies willing to lose what they have secured in order to help bf
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rumor mill says they have already got some pals to help them vs ultores tomorrow, question is are said allies willing to lose what they have secured in order to help bf
Interesting. Im struggling to understand who the uni actually wants at number one. It seems to be a case of if you are number one you get bashed and the cycle will just continue rolling over ever 150 ticks until we hit the final tick and whoever happened to be in the right place at the right time will be declared the winner.

I guess we could say whoever is 3rd will win?
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making up 30mil in the last week isnt unheard of
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Sad to see a number one ally crash its value so hard within two days it gives away its lead. I was hoping that bf defence was better but I guess when p3ng were landing you with 35 attack fleets the writing was on the wall. Perhaps just use run and hide for a few days? You are likely to come out much better off than the current value death tactics
There were some crashes but also some att crashes. 3 seperate allies crashed over 1 mil value. Looks worse when its just 1 taking that hehe.

When was p3ng landing us?
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As you keep on quoting, trustworthy allies is what it is all about. Took Black Flag 1 round to show they will backstab you at every turn given the chance.
Who did we backstab? Attacking p3ng who we never liked?
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Who did we backstab? Attacking p3ng who we never liked?
Faceless? Newdawn? Conspiracy? Ultores?

You made deals with 4 alliances you didnt keep, that you even think of the name p3nguins as one of them likely means you did something you shouldnt have either.
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There were some crashes but also some att crashes. 3 seperate allies crashed over 1 mil value. Looks worse when its just 1 taking that hehe.

When was p3ng landing us?
Well since you had agreements and screw all inc from anyone else but p3ng before the block started hitting you we can safely conclude: http://kia.cthq.net/index.php?p=tick...imit=50&page=2
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Well since you had agreements and screw all inc from anyone else but p3ng before the block started hitting you we can safely conclude: http://kia.cthq.net/index.php?p=tick...imit=50&page=2
I fail to see any day we went negative. Not much landed on us and as p3ng had cr we grounded fr. Meanin our main attack wasnt flying.
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Faceless? Newdawn? Conspiracy? Ultores?

You made deals with 4 alliances you didnt keep, that you even think of the name p3nguins as one of them likely means you did something you shouldnt have either.
What deal with nd and ct did we break? Fl broke theirs to hit us not the other way around.
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Interesting. Im struggling to understand who the uni actually wants at number one. It seems to be a case of if you are number one you get bashed and the cycle will just continue rolling over ever 150 ticks until we hit the final tick and whoever happened to be in the right place at the right time will be declared the winner.

I guess we could say whoever is 3rd will win?
The univers should want to move upwards in the rankings, hitting the fattest targets makes sense in this regard.
Hitting downwards will only increase the gap with the ones above you usualy.
Its quite hard for the lower ranked allies to understand this at times
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I fail to see any day we went negative. Not much landed on us and as p3ng had cr we grounded fr. Meanin our main attack wasnt flying.
Munkee was not claiming p3n forced you into negative, simply that some attacks were landing with only 35 fleets attacking you. Sure it was only one or two at most per day but by the criteria Munkee set out it still counts.
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What deal with nd and ct did we break? Fl broke theirs to hit us not the other way around.
When you had a block including Faceless, Conspiracy and Newdawn you had an agreement not to betray eachother. When Ultores gave you an ultimatum you backed out of the block to let the others die. Then while Ultores and Black Flag were supposed to be none hostile the HC's from Black Flag tried forming a block once again, even inviting alliances they literally left to die before.

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I didn't know they said that.

I think 'you reap what you sow' is better.

Are you guys going for a hat trick of -10+%'s in a row??

How many incs a night are BF getting? 100? 120?
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The only solution is to increase the alliance tag limit.
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When you had a block including Faceless, Conspiracy and Newdawn you had an agreement not to betray eachother. When Ultores gave you an ultimatum you backed out of the block to let the others die. Then while Ultores and Black Flag were supposed to be none hostile the HC's from Black Flag tried forming a block once again, even inviting alliances they literally left to die before.

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Considering at the time of the first block ND was hitting BF ... you got your time lines, or story, or something mixed up ... but reading through your past posts I'm not surprised ... I mean kaiba likes you so it cant be a good thing.

As far as the other parts Ult had plans on hitting the number 1 galaxy despite out non hostile pact. We originally wanted to wait to respond to that, however FL changed things a bit there. And what alliances were left to die? Once BF and other joined to help CT vs Ult CT came out quite ahead then when they started, the only one left was FL 1v 1.5 (support tags). Everyone else secured the same deals to stop hitting ult.
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Considering at the time of the first block ND was hitting BF ... you got your time lines, or story, or something mixed up ... but reading through your past posts I'm not surprised ... I mean kaiba likes you so it cant be a good thing.

As far as the other parts Ult had plans on hitting the number 1 galaxy despite out non hostile pact. We originally wanted to wait to respond to that, however FL changed things a bit there. And what alliances were left to die? Once BF and other joined to help CT vs Ult CT came out quite ahead then when they started, the only one left was FL 1v 1.5 (support tags). Everyone else secured the same deals to stop hitting ult.
The fact you dont know ND joined the block in the end is your problem, not mine and the only alliance Ult made a deal with was BF.
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Seems they have made some type of impact on you. While we are on this subject of people hitting you by the way was the rumour true that you needed PL defence from spore to even help you last night with your first major incoming?
I can confirm that we didn't get any pre-launch defence from any other alliance. Any defence from other alliances would've been in-galaxy.

I shouldn't really be adding my comments on AD, but all these trolls towards each other is a little pathetic, and a bit depressing.

I have seen some comments of "Black Flag is crumbling lol", but we are only losing roids (and in some unfortunate occasions crashed some value). Due to the nature of the stats, any alliance that has gotten blocked has lost an embarrassing amount of roids. Black Flag lost around 12% today, and 17% yesterday, and if I recall correctly, Ultores were losing around the same on a daily basis (on average 15%) with around 300 fleets per night (feel free to correct me if Ultores were experiencing more fleets on average).

There has been a lot of speculation that Black Flag are going down The Fallen's (& FAnG's) path of crumbling on the first sight of incoming, but this is not the case this round. Myself and other HCs have been working hard to keep up a strong defence culture and to ensure that morale within the alliance doesn't drop. We have only had one member quit thus far. I assure anyone who doubts Black Flag's ability that we will fight until the final tick.

Don't let me stop your trolling, so please continue as you were.

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The fact you dont know ND joined the block in the end is your problem, not mine and the only alliance Ult made a deal with was BF.
You are a moron ... as said earlier a few pages ago ND was hitting BF ... so unless they got confused at who ult and bf were they werent part of the block.
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it's part of their master plan, offload all their roids in a short time then block will stop hitting them and turn on each other. then join the bigger block and continue what they've been doing all round.

rumor mill says they have already got some pals to help them vs ultores tomorrow, question is are said allies willing to lose what they have secured in order to help bf
What he said ^ Im glad this lolround is done soon, I don't think I have seen a round look so much like drunk olympics as this one.
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Maybe if the Alliance tag limit was raised there would be no confusion as to who is napped?
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Maybe if the Alliance tag limit was raised there would be no confusion as to who is napped?
Lets just raise the tag limit to 400, assign each planet to 1 of 2 tags and disable any new tags being made. Problem solved.
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Lets just raise the tag limit to 400, assign each planet to 1 of 2 tags and disable any new tags being made. Problem solved.
brilliant ... and make 1 tag all bots, so tag 2 has nice easy lands and wont have to be afraid to have fun.
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Unread 8 Jul 2014, 23:24   #786
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I can confirm that we didn't get any pre-launch defence from any other alliance. Any defence from other alliances would've been in-galaxy.

I shouldn't really be adding my comments on AD, but all these trolls towards each other is a little pathetic, and a bit depressing.

I have seen some comments of "Black Flag is crumbling lol", but we are only losing roids (and in some unfortunate occasions crashed some value). Due to the nature of the stats, any alliance that has gotten blocked has lost an embarrassing amount of roids. Black Flag lost around 12% today, and 17% yesterday, and if I recall correctly, Ultores were losing around the same on a daily basis (on average 15%) with around 300 fleets per night (feel free to correct me if Ultores were experiencing more fleets on average).

There has been a lot of speculation that Black Flag are going down The Fallen's (& FAnG's) path of crumbling on the first sight of incoming, but this is not the case this round. Myself and other HCs have been working hard to keep up a strong defence culture and to ensure that morale within the alliance doesn't drop. We have only had one member quit thus far. I assure anyone who doubts Black Flag's ability that we will fight until the final tick.

Don't let me stop your trolling, so please continue as you were.

This is actually a sensible post, first one from bf command in a while.

I checked Kia for you clouds.

It say ult lost 7.1%, 9.3% and 10.6% 3 days in a row and another 9.5% 3 days later.

Only thing i notice different majorly between the 2 bashes is that Ults score growth didn't really drop off day to day during the bash whereas bf's has including a negative day for score (I know someone quit tag that day tho)
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I can confirm that we didn't get any pre-launch defence from any other alliance. Any defence from other alliances would've been in-galaxy.

I shouldn't really be adding my comments on AD, but all these trolls towards each other is a little pathetic, and a bit depressing.

I have seen some comments of "Black Flag is crumbling lol", but we are only losing roids (and in some unfortunate occasions crashed some value). Due to the nature of the stats, any alliance that has gotten blocked has lost an embarrassing amount of roids. Black Flag lost around 12% today, and 17% yesterday, and if I recall correctly, Ultores were losing around the same on a daily basis (on average 15%) with around 300 fleets per night (feel free to correct me if Ultores were experiencing more fleets on average).

There has been a lot of speculation that Black Flag are going down The Fallen's (& FAnG's) path of crumbling on the first sight of incoming, but this is not the case this round. Myself and other HCs have been working hard to keep up a strong defence culture and to ensure that morale within the alliance doesn't drop. We have only had one member quit thus far. I assure anyone who doubts Black Flag's ability that we will fight until the final tick.

Don't let me stop your trolling, so please continue as you were.

FAnG hasnt had much incommings this round, and i can assure that our def culture and morale is not close to crumble.
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brilliant ... and make 1 tag all bots, so tag 2 has nice easy lands and wont have to be afraid to have fun.
How will you block then?
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Due to the nature of the stats, any alliance that has gotten blocked has lost an embarrassing amount of roids. Black Flag lost around 12% today, and 17% yesterday, and if I recall correctly, Ultores were losing around the same on a daily basis (on average 15%) with around 300 fleets per night (feel free to correct me if Ultores were experiencing more fleets on average).
While I agree that the stats have a big role in the losses every alliance blocked against has suffered, as frankly does the fact that there is a maximum of 3 fleetslots so when multiple alliances hit in a coordinated fashion roids will be lost it does not look to be the case that Ult was losing 15%. Judging by http://kia.cthq.net/index.php?p=view...es&history=All the highest loss was just over 10% in a day. Incidentally p3n does not seem to have lost double digit percentages in any single day (though the blocs against us were smaller so I guess this is not too much of a surprise).

Edit I see I am beaten to it - I should refresh more often!
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Err what??

Kia shows percentages by default. You have to click to get numbers. Or am I missing what you are saying?

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As someone pointed out to me, Ultores did leak -12-15% 2-3 days of being blocked, but this deficit decreased to around -8% due to initiating/etc (on average) by midnight. So I stand corrected!
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As someone pointed out to me, Ultores did leak -12-15% 2-3 days of being blocked, but this deficit decreased to around -8% on average by midnight. So I stand corrected!
Well they didn't lose 12-15% then did they?!

They did the sensible thing and used spare fleets to go get cheap roids and keep their value/score going.

See this is what I was on about with ult and the rest and clouds you were ult so you know this. They may ship roids when blocked but they use the hours after attacks to recap as much as possible, they are allowed to freely day raid to keep roids flowing in as well as out during block incs, they are more efficient and tbh experienced in how to play the long game.
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And they wouldn't initiate during block incs, they iniated on day 4 when ppl stopped hitting them hence the 25%(!) Size increase for that day
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looks like we've come a full circle and back to how the round started.
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*Slow claps for Ult*

16 FI/CO fleets to fleetcatch a CR fleet?



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