The beginning of the end?
I have been paying close attention to the rankings in Sandmans over the last few days and have noticed a worrying trend appearing. The top seem to be racing ahead at the expense of those lower down.
For example the alliances. LCH and Insomnia decided to gang up on 1up and for a while there it looked like LCH might inch into the lead. This "war" has pretty much fizzled out by now though and 1up have themselves a healthy margin once again. As for galaxies, the top don't seem to be getting any challenges. I know that 8:3 got raped today, losing over 30% of their roids. The other galaxies seem to be coping just fine though. Take a look at 6:10, their roid lead is astronomical. I myself am in a top 10 galaxy and half of us have forgotten what hostile fleets look like. We sit and we wait for incoming that never shows up. We sit. We wait. Nothing. I'm not saying that I want incoming but some on the other top galaxies would be nice. I know that there's still everything to play for regarding the winning planet but the only people that care about that are the handful of people that might actually win the round. So do you think stagnation has set in already? Have the winners been decided and we're all going through the motions until the round ends? I'd like to think that something drastic will happen to upset the balance but I sincerely doubt it. |
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I suppose you are right, compared to other rounds this one has been relatively quiet. Still, I wouldnt complain too much about a lack of incoming if I were you ;)
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Mid round reset like one of the Speedgames, reset on Saturday night for Sundays game play
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Neferti, and one talkning of a quieter round than usual is insane considering the amount of roids changing hands.
Chuby you give co-ords of other top gals, but not yours. If you are so bored waiting, stop fencesitting and tell us your co-ords, and it can be sorted just for your pleasure. |
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'Beginning of the end'
I thought you meant of PA in general, and i was going to agree with you. |
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Loads of roids change hand every round.
There's no big wars going on though. Even this alleged 1up v LCH thing isnt exactly huge by past standards. |
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I know a war is happening from my side of things at least :) |
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A war may be happening, but it doesnt seem very exciting.
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And as a side note it's nice to see 1up members coming in here and spouting bollocks about that quaint little alliance of theirs in a thread that doesn't really have anything to do with 1up just to let everybody know that 1up is an alliance in a game known as Planetarion and just in case you didn't know already 1up happens to be the most important thing in the whole friggin world. And as another side note it would be nice to see 1up members shutting the **** up about this above mentioned alliance and move on somewhere else to stoke up the flames of the runaway freight train know as 1up: The Egotistical Monster That Cannot Be Satiated No Matter How Many Times You Mention It In Any Given Thread. If 1up members wish to discuss the matter at hand then I'd be more than welcome to hear their opinions on the subject, after all their opinion is as valid as anybody elses. |
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Number of times I mentioned 1up = 0
Number of times YOU mentioned 1up = 10 Congrats. Still the point remains you ahve posted co-ords and told people to attack, when huge amounts of roids are changing hands every tick. Stale? How can you claim that when 4 alliances are in a position to win at this current time. Here is 2p, go buy yourself a clue. |
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Implying that it's wrong that I posted coordinates seems odd to me. Doesn't take a genius to go to the rankings and see that 6:10 has far more roids than anybody else. I could have said something like "The no. 1 galaxy currently has far more roids than any other galaxy" which would basically have had the same effect. As for mentioning that 8:3 lost a lot of roids I could again have referred to them as the top 10 galaxy that lost over 30% of their roids. Again though this would have had pretty much the same effect since you could just run to Sandmans and see who I was referring to. Besides, this was aimed at being more of a disincentive to attack 8:3 rather than an incentive. Well, you could claim that there are currently 4 alliances vying for the top, in theory a number of alliances could win. The top 3 have nice average scores and roid count and ND are steadily growing their member count. However if you look at how the no. 1 alliance has been growing lately they appear to be growing better than any of the other contenders. My point is that if things continue as they have been the no. 1 has already been decided. There is also nothing on the political horizon to suggest that 1up will be getting the heat turned up on them any time soon. Maybe they already have heat, point is they're handling it well and could receive more if certain people so wished. As for the large number of roids changing hands, it's all comparative. Last round the rate of exchange was higher. |
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2 days ago, LCH had more roids than 1up. Its changing every hour of every day, and is certainly a challenging and fun round for the top 4.
Again I challenge you, you complain of no incomings, why not spread YOUR co-ords about. Apart from anything, co-ords are banned from the forums last I looked. |
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Ah. Rereading some of your post wants us to discuss the roles of other alliances in all of this. Not just the main six? If you could clarify, then if the answer is yes this might do better on the other board. |
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As for posting my coordinates, I am not going to do that. For the purposes of this thread I have stated that I am in a top 10 galaxy. No further specification needs to be made to prove the point that I was trying to make. Besides, if anybody really does want to know my coordinates (I doubt whether anybody does) most of them can find out very easily due to events that have occured this round. I know for a fact that you personally can find out my coordinates with very little effort indeed. As for complaining about the lack of incomings, I was complaining that top 10 galaxies other than mine were not receiving the necessary incoming, not my galaxy. For the record I do not want a single hostile ship to appear on my galaxy status between now and the end of the round. Is this the wrong attitude to take? Don't care. |
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Ahh, so u want stagnation on your gal, but not on everyone elses.
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While you mention it I do think that 1up have an insurmountable lead, not because of their roid count, or members, or score, but because of the political situation. I wouldn't call this stagnation because 1up's rivals have plenty of options open to them, they just need to stop being pussies and take them. Quote:
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You cant come on a board and whine that everyone is not getting incoming, then openly say you dont want incoming.
In effect, all you have done is come here and whine that your galaxy isnt winning. And thats just lame. |
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Are you in one of these galaxies with a mix of both alliances Chubby?
(serious question as I don't have a clue what gal you're in heh) |
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This is not the end. not even the middle nor the beginning of the end.. But its perhaps the end of the beginning. :)
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These statements are all completely true. However That does not mean that I do not accept that I will get incoming if my galaxy becomes too big for its britches. If my galaxy is a contender for no. 1 (which I do not think that it currently is or ever will be) then I expect to be attacked heavily to be knocked down from this spot. Even now, in the top 10 with a less than likely chance of becoming no. 1 I accept that my galaxy may get incoming. My wish that this does not happen does not in any way detract from this acceptance. I actually have an idea for taking down the top galaxy: Make as many alliances as possible agree not to defend any member that happens to be in the no. 1 galaxy. Easy to say, easy to do theoretically. Practically impossible to implement though since the HCs will think that their members in the no. 1 galaxy will feel that they are being betrayed and may even leave the alliance because of it. I for one would not take this attitude, in fact if I was in the no. 1 galaxy I would want this idea to be implemented because it would mean that at the end of the round the no. 1 galaxy has truly earnt its place. I would not want the extra incoming that this would give me but I would accept it. There is a world of difference here. Quote:
I have already openly stated that my galaxy is not getting any incoming. So how can I whine about my galaxy not being no. 1? If I were I'd basically be saying that my galaxy mates are all worthless sacks of shit and I want to be exiled (I'm not saying this at all, in case my GC reads this, gets carried away and runs to the Politics page). |
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I am not going to tell you what alliances are in my galaxy. It may well be very relevant to the discussion at hand but none of my alliance mates have given me permission to discuss anything about them so I won't. I do have some integrity, despite what some people reading certain things in this thread might think. Quote:
What's your take on all this anyway? I'd be interested to know what you think, you old fart :D |
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What, apart from this being the most boring round of Planetarion that I have played so far?
I think that 1up is doing good, all honor to them. The alliances below them should target them, to make sure they get some good competion, like 1up tried to do with eXilition last round. But round 14 will hopefully be forgotten. Or maybe only remembered as the round when the known alliances started to crumble. The most interesting part of round 14 and the coming round 15 is that there will be ALOT of active good players searching for a home. |
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I think one thing being forgotten is that targetting of the top planets/galaxies is not always hand in hand with a military strategy. They're normally top for a reason (unless that reason is purely because theyve had no incomings which in the case for the current #1 galaxy - which has changed hands quite a few times I may add) - is not true)
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Our targetting changes upon the needs of the alliance. |
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Now, take a look at how many roids they've lost so far this round. The grand total currently stands at 7,230 roids. 7,230 Seven thousand two hundred and thirty roids. Think about that for a second. What the hell is that????? I asked how many roids an entire galaxy has lost so far this round, not how many sausages I had for breakfast!! I started Round 13 late and my planet lost more roids than that entire galaxy combined! My planet people! I'm not saying they're not getting heavy incoming, maybe they are. Fact is they can handle whatever it is that they have got. Simple fact is that they have not got the required incoming to make the contender for no. 1 galaxy an interesting fight and the number of roids they have lost so far more than proves it. You're saying that they have not got more incoming than they could have done because of the political mix in the galaxy. Fair enough. Doesn't seem right though. A lot of people bitch about the top alliances simply because the mix of alliances in your galaxy can dictate the amount of incoming you get. A very valid bitch imo. I personally would like to see something hard coded into the game to make this less of a problem. For example if you are in the no. 1 galaxy it is impossible for your alliance to defend you, would make it a lot more interesting. I know a lot of people would complain if that were done though. Quote:
Not saying you shouldn't put it in those words, you're entitled to after all :) |
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you lucky(sneaky) bastard, my gal's been in a reasonably 'strong' position and we've pretty much had inc every single night since i exiled into it. i wish the inc would just **** off for a week not actually get some heh.
the alliance war is nowhere near over. the #1 spot is hanging in the air even more than before actually tbh. the galaxy #1 rank personally never meant shit to me and it'll continue to do so in these random rounds. |
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I don't think that the #1 galaxy will still be #1 in a week. But we'll see.
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Nobody should want incoming into their own galaxy. What's the point of it? Does it give you more roids? No. Does it give you more XP? No. But just because nobody wants it doesn't mean that anybody should be exempt from getting it. |
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Im in the "lucky" gal that lost 30% that night, and we got ****ing incs every goddamn night!
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hmm, by the sounds of it your gal gets no incoming because you have every alliance in the game in there somewhere. Why don't you actively go about and try to change what you complain about?
I look forward to your witty reply |
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Oh come on. It's not like the coords of the #1 galaxy are a great secret.
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*i assume people realize what i mean by this |
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But here's a little bunny you can lick on :bunny: |
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Is that because your own gal is very incapable of defending in gal ? Take the time to news scan the top gal, and check the in gal defence going back and forth in that gal. That might be something you could learn from, instead of spewing gibberish and inaccuracies on the forums. :down: |
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nono, why dont YOU.DO.SOMETHING. instead of "suggesting" for others. action speaks louder than words, kiddo.
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I dont think this round is stagnated at all, 6:10 looking good as a gal tho, compared to the rest.
-Jonas- |
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If you have a bright idea then I'd be glad to hear it and take it under advisement. |
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a wild idea here
go sort attacks and get them launched? REVOLUTIONARY ! (may require promotion to BC level but that's hardly a effort) |
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maybe not in 1up :o
Anyway, jernub is right, altho it s hard to admit :/ |
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I am not going to throw a hissy fit and go join an alliance that will agree with me because I am not a little brat that picks up his ball and runs home with it because my HC decide to do something that I don't agree with. I play the game within the parameters that my alliance set for me. I am also not going to go and suggest my idea to HC in other alliances because rightly or wrongly I attack exclusively with my alliance and who other HC decide to attack is no business of mine. They are not going to listen to me anyway. If somebody in an alliance other than mine wants to suggest this idea to their HC they can go right ahead, nothing's stopping them. I won't even take credit for it ;) Promotion to BC would also not help me because if I chose 6:10 as a target often my HC would realise what I was doing and tell me to persist. If I continued doing it they'd demote me. Any other ideas? |
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so basically, you can't get em killed with your alliance so now your making an ever so subtle plea for someone else to do it?
hello guys, id like pretty much all of lch killed because they hound out my planet as per usual and it's slightly irritating. i can't do it myself though, as my planet is quite tiny value wise now because of aforementioned hounding and can't run attacks on them unless decreed by my HC because we follow pretty strict targetlists. so i figure i can ask on the pa forums in hope you lot do it for me, ok? thanks |
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I did not quote the rest of your post because it is irrelevant gibberish that fails to make any point that you were trying to make and furthermore it is not relevant to the topic that is currently being discussed. |
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the rest of the post wasn't addressed to you, i was just actually trying to do waht you are too but suited for my gain etc.
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It really made you look intelligent. And when I ask you to explain your accusation I am not asking you to make a snide remark that in your mind somehow alludes to whatever it is you may or may not be trying to say but when viewed by others actually comes across as nothing more than a random comment. I am asking you to state your explanation clearly. |
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Now now ladies, put your Handbags away!!
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