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8 Apr 2004, 20:42
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DarkStar
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Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
As stated in the title of this thread... is there any interest in starting a warhammer thread? If so please post here and let me know so that we could properly organise one.... I always wanted to see how a Warhammer RP would turn out as.. so this is my attempt at one...
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8 Apr 2004, 22:19
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
it depends mainly on how you run it.....thats my guess i just a rookie so dont take it as sure fire advice.
If you do make one, ill join it tho
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9 Apr 2004, 00:36
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
you know there actually was one once, by eath i think but it was moved to another forum and died, it was pretty good while it lasted so yeah there would be reason to make one, again depending on how you ran it
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9 Apr 2004, 01:36
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
mad cat, this doesnt concern just u but it amazes me that you all know so much about him that i dont and IM HIS FRIGGEN BROTHER (sry for choking thread)
I think the best way to do it would be to allow us to choose to be an army and control it or a unit in it, or a small group, and do it like that
Ill ask Eath and tell you about it if u want (provided that he remembers it)
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9 Apr 2004, 02:18
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
i would join
but limit to squads/small groups
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9 Apr 2004, 02:33
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
I'd limit it to small groups and make an interesting storyline. I'll join if the beginning plot and layout interests me enough.
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9 Apr 2004, 02:41
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
The problem with Warhammer 40k is that it has to be done extremely well, fortunately all the history is there ready for you, unfortunately all the history is there ready for you... I wouldn't recommend space marines (Boring), keep it to a personal level a man part of a squad and don't try and incorporate stats in anyway. The thread would need to appeal to more then just that part of the community that plays the game so it would need to be made so that everyone can understand it. I'd be more then willing to join if it takes my interest.
P.S Make sure the bad guys are either Chaos, Dark Eldar or Tyranid
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9 Apr 2004, 08:19
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Good responses... Hmm, lets think..... Unforrtunatly i only have information on the Space Marine Armies at the moment ... so if anyone who has any experiance with other armies... or has a codex an army other than Space Marines i would be gratefull to recive information on these armies as it would allow me to produce a more interesting thread than say two Space Marine Chapters going against each other ( though that might be interesting)....
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9 Apr 2004, 10:44
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Catachan Jungle FIghters \o/
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9 Apr 2004, 11:28
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
I'd go for fantasy
And if you need help with story/tales/backgrounds/whatever, I'm here for you got alot of writing experiance (not b/s but novels) so contact me if yuu need some help!
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9 Apr 2004, 12:46
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
i'm interested. oh and ASME, i should have a dark eldar (old), tau (reasonably recent) and possibly some other codex's lying around.
If we are going to do this, i'd suggest allowing people to choose between several races (space marines, imperial gaurd, eldar and possibly tau) and have tyranids/chaos/dark eldar as the main enemy. As far as i know, the tau have not yet encountered the dark eldar
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9 Apr 2004, 14:05
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
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Good responses... Hmm, lets think..... Unforrtunatly i only have information on the Space Marine Armies at the moment ... so if anyone who has any experiance with other armies... or has a codex an army other than Space Marines i would be gratefull to recive information on these armies as it would allow me to produce a more interesting thread than say two Space Marine Chapters going against each other ( though that might be interesting)....
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Space Marines
Dark Angels
Tyranids
Dark Eldar
Tau
But it has to be said Catachan Jungle fighters taking on a bunch of nasty Tyranids in some dense and viscious jungle trying against all odds to survive as the lictors come crashing from the undergrowth and not too mention the Gaunts, Genestealers, Tyranid Warriors, Hive Tyrants and maybe even some new breeds of Tyranid... Protecting there base of operations...
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9 Apr 2004, 14:26
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
ah, bugger that, just blast the vermin from long range with tau pulse rifles and laugh.
Oh and if it looks like they're going to come close, bring out the battlesuits
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Necrons.
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9 Apr 2004, 14:36
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
necrons are a major pain in the ass.
You go through a lot of effort to shoot down 6 Necrons, then 4 just get up and keep on fighting
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Heh i have an ork codex if u wanna know bout them. They would be the most powerful army in the 40k universe if it werent for the fact that they fight everything that moves. I say u include all 13 or so armies cause u can prolly get stuff on most of them for sites and stuff. Dont limit it to juts ppl vs. tau or something, thats boring, let us choose our armies from a wide selection
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9 Apr 2004, 15:09
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Orks are stupid, they have a lousy hit rate and don't even have the best weapons, they have hardly any armor on their standard troops but i must admit they're good at close combat.
You do know the general Ork tactic against tau, right?
Run at tau, bring many ork because many will die when running at tau
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9 Apr 2004, 16:58
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Would this be an RP of a squad or an individual character?
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9 Apr 2004, 18:36
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
RP of a squad probably, a squad behind enemy lines, a group of squads against an other group of squads.... (possibilities are endless really...)
Ok here it goes...
I will create a thread in the nxt couple of days(probably) with all the information i can collect on the different armies in 40K, hopefully i will see you there...
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9 Apr 2004, 18:51
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
I got dibs on an Ordo Xenos Inquistor.... or a Grey Knight if you insist on using demons
Actually, now the idea has come up, anyone interested in a Necromunda thread?
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9 Apr 2004, 19:07
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
I've got dibs on a tau battlesuit group (crisis/stealth/other types)
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
i agree with PK
Give us teh Necrons!
and a cheesecake
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10 Apr 2004, 00:50
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
hey, i like 'nids
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10 Apr 2004, 01:52
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
If orks united, they would rule the universe, but they arent, It says so at gamesworkshop.com or in the codex.
I shall prove their might and use them, dont know wut units tho....either dreadnought/ larger killa kan or rokkit units (flying orks )
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Orks are great because they hardly cost any points to have them at the start. A squad of Space Marine Terminators can equal an ork's starting score-count of 4 squads
If you are to have good guys, have some Space Marines (preferably Space Wolves, Dark Angels or Blood Angels), Eldar or Imperial Guard
For the bad guys you got to have the Tyranids with Chaos, Necrons and Tau as other possibilities
If I was to join I'd be Blood Angels, with at least a dreadnaught, apothecary, techmarine and a land radier (the original ones with 4 las-cannons and heavy bolter)
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10 Apr 2004, 03:29
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
whatever happens with the thread, make sure to include info on whatever units involved. it would help us whose normal armies wouldn't be the heros, as well as make the thread more appealing to those who dont play the game.
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
hey, dont be badmouthing the necrons by placing them on the bad side
there just ... misunderstood
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10 Apr 2004, 08:55
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
And what's up with calling Tau evil? They're like the freindliest and most open-minded and caring race in the whole galaxy!
Although the thought of charging into a squad of Fire Warriors with a Storm Boy Kommand (the really old-skool ones where they were rebelliously over-disciplined teenagers) sounds increasingly attractive...
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10 Apr 2004, 13:37
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Flapjack against any seaoned player Tau die horribly there only redeeming feature are the battlesuits. Unless they have a seasoned veteran as there commander in which case as long as they are good at judging distances they normally stand a chance.
Necrons are no where near as hard as people think, they die and leave the board with 25% casualties and when you have Ordnance weaponry its two turns and the game is over.
Anarcharnate, Anyone or anything that believes in the greater good of there kind is not friendly and don't invite people round for tea parties, Tau are evil and Games Worshop are planning on bringing out Tau with spiky bits sometime soon.
Tyranids have become far to flimsy they just die to easily which means you have to find a way round it I'd recommend gaunts lots of cheapest possible with spinefists and leaping.
Space Marines are the definitive army good in close combat, excellent at shooting and tougher then most things in the game
Chaos... Nuff said
Imperial Guard are better then what they used to be but the tank division's are really, really, cool... if expensive but if you could field 5 battle cannons in a 1000 point army including the Demolisher I'm sure you would.
Eldar are another army that if the commander is a well thought out veteran they are unbeatable and uberhard... Star Cannons
Dark Eldar are the hardest to play but when played correctly are the hardest to beat, best non-special independant charecter in the game Dark Eldar Lord.
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10 Apr 2004, 16:25
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
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Anyone or anything that believes in the greater good of there kind is not friendly and don't invite <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=55">people</a> round for tea parties, Tau are evil and <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=Games&v=55">Games</a> Workshop are planning on bringing out Tau with spiky bits sometime soon.
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The addition of spikes makes, ummm, Chaos Tau (despite their apparent lack of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=psychic&v=55">psychic</a> traces) therefore an evil side of a good race plus GW always stresses the fact that the Tau treat every race in their empire fairly (better than the Imperium of Man, anyway- xenophobic and extremist ) and they work for the greater good of *everyone* who wants it, not just themselves.
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Space Marines are the definitive army good in close combat, excellent at shooting and tougher then most things in the game.
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Beakies are the beginners army, i.e what you play if you're not enough of a "veteran" yet- well, Codex Chapters anyway (go Dark Angels!!!). They're actually really limited and boring once you get down to it.
Lol, i agree with a lot of your other points though
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Aglarzir you will die on my chainaxe blade.
I cannot believe that there is not a single other chaos player here.
If you want to know anything about chaos I'm your man, having read several novels and had the last four chaos codex'.
I think a 40k RPG would be good, and you should have a vote for which army to be in. I would suggest all participants are just one person from a troop choic of the chosen army, such as a space marine squad, a eldar guardian squad or so on.
Although if we can pick whatever we are in the 40k universe, I would be my Daemon Price Sythera, who kicks ass.
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Dear Tyrant,
I am grateful that you came along... please PM about the Chaos MArines as i am finding it difficult to piece together information about them from the internet...
To the rest of you,
If you have any codacies for any of these guys, also PM me
Necrons
Tau
Tyranids
Eldar
Dark Eldar
Orks
thank you, your DM, ASME
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
About the whole space marines are the best close combat.........WRONG! They aint got shit on orks at least when it comes to close combat. They can also steal tanks and use them against man kind. Now about Tyranids, they are simply a plague running rampant across the 40k universe. They have weak units, but they are more or less unstoppable in theory.
P.S. how does one PM someone else, I have ork info from my codex to offer....
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Tyrant - Nuff Said... I respect chaos but when my tau battlesuits are hovering over terrain and blasting big holes in your men and armour as the pathfinders start to pick out targets for my Broadsides. We would see who is the better commander, and who should have really just left there codex and army at home... (12 battlesuits and 6 broadsides in a 1500 point army and its all legal) lol p.s Nuff Said was a simply way of saying Chaos will always be uber hard.
Anarcharnate - Space Wolves... You cannot describe space wolves in anyway as a Beginners army... I try to look at it this way Space Marine Beginners... Space Marine Veterans two very different breeds. Tau may never be true Chaos, but the thought is there to make an army which would be the equivilent to Dark Eldar...
You can't beat a Wych Lord with Wych Weapons, Shadow Field, Plasma Grenades, Agoniser, Combat Drugs. Weapon Skill 6 Initiative 8 Attacks 3(4) +1 for charge... Wounds always on a 4+, not too mention even cover won't save you as the plasma grenades negate it... yes you strike in initiative order, 2+ invulnerable dropping to 4+ in close combat if its failed, not only that you don't get bonus attacks for more then one close combat weapon. Your weapon skill is halved if your unmodified strength is below 6. You'd think that was it wouldn't you did I mention the combat drugs, won't go into details but your rerolling misses and +1 to your attacks... oh and did I forget to mention your not getting any saves... There isn't anything I haven't killed with her Special Characters are at her mercy and that includes the greater demons aswell.
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About the whole space marines are the best close combat.........WRONG! They aint got shit on orks at least when it comes to close combat. They can also steal tanks and use them against man kind. Now about Tyranids, they are simply a plague running rampant across the 40k universe. They have weak units, but they are more or less unstoppable in theory.
P.S. how does one PM someone else, I have ork info from my codex to offer....
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Just a few things SPACE WOLVES, BLOOD ANGELS... nuff said
I play Tau, Tyranids, Space Wolves, Dark Eldar I played the 2nd edition rules to what the game is now in modern day. Genestealer were unstopable and they really put the fear of life into more then one enemy. Heavy bolters mince Tyranids and ordnance and the big creatures can be targeted seperately with Las Cannons, Tyranids are nowhere near as hard as they used to be and that is the unfortunate truth of it.
Go to your profile and look for private messages its pretty self explanitory from then on.
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
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Space Wolves... You cannot describe space wolves in anyway as a Beginners army... I try to look at it this way Space Marine Beginners... Space Marine Veterans two very different breeds.
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Genestealer were unstopable and they really put the fear of life into more then one enemy. Heavy bolters mince Tyranids and ordnance and the big creatures can be targeted seperately with Las Cannons, Tyranids are nowhere near as hard as they used to be and that is the unfortunate truth of it.
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Everyone seems to forget that ordnance weapons can only hit one thing a turn, essentially. That's why they're so good. most 'Nid beasties are at least equal to a tank- or a Greater Daemon, minus the selection restrictions.
Btw, is anyone PMing ASME about the fall and it's effects? It's just that that covers Craftworld Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Exodites, and even Chaos and Necrons to an extent.
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
Hmmm, ok Aglarzir, you've managed to convince me not to rip you to pieces......yet
And my 11 lascannons would make short work of your battlesuits.
*Rages at lack of evil emote*
I'm going to tell him about some aspects of the fall, as it was quite a major event, but I can only chat about the dark eldar, exodites and harlequins to a lesser extent. I'm also gonna obviously tell him about the Horus Heresy, talking about chaos you have to.
Space marines will never be as good as chaos. Chaos are evil space marines with evil daemons helping them and gods on their side! Oh and a feeble, virtually dead emporor does NOT count as a god all you imperial players
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb
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11 Apr 2004, 22:15
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Re: Is there any interest in making a warhammer 40k RP thread?
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Originally Posted by Tyrant
Hmmm, ok Aglarzir, you've managed to convince me not to rip you to pieces......yet
And my 11 lascannons would make short work of your battlesuits.
*Rages at lack of evil emote*
I'm going to tell him about some aspects of the fall, as it was quite a major event, but I can only chat about the dark eldar, exodites and harlequins to a lesser extent. I'm also gonna obviously tell him about the Horus Heresy, talking about chaos you have to.
Space marines will never be as good as chaos. Chaos are evil space marines with evil daemons helping them and gods on their side! Oh and a feeble, virtually dead emporor does NOT count as a god all you imperial players
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb
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big lol to that, 11 lascannons against a proper group of broadsides and you might just wound them, if you're lucky and the drones don't take all of the hits unharmed. Broadsides have a 2+ armour save, with 1 drone controller it makes 3 broadsides + 3 drones, the drones have 4+ armour saves. Broadsides have 2 wounds each, each drone would be taking 2 hits (regardless of wether or not the first kills) and 1 broadside would take only 1 hit. Then they'd return fire with smart missiles after getting behind cover.
and Crisis suits mind you can move in assault phase in any direction, so just get it behind a hill (no LOS) move 3 inches to the top of the hill, fire your weapons and in the assault phase move the 3 inch back behind the hill. Keep doing this till your enemy comes for close combat or is dead. Crisis suits have a 3+ armour save and 2 wounds, not to mention having a decent strength
and 4 squads of firewarriors on a decent sized area (more then 30" across) can devastate several squads of space marines before they ever get close
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