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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 14:55   #51
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Re: Congrats ND

Does it honestly matter how any alliance wins this game, as long as you win by whatever tactics you use?
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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 15:07   #52
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Its pretty clear ND is the new dominant alliance!
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The last two weeks ND has hit the #6, #7 and #8 alliance mainly, TGV has hit both #1 and #2. Maybe you should teach them how to fence? This is the most pathetic alliance "win" I can remember in PA history, ND were barely a top 5 alliance this round and got their rank handed on a silver platter. ND in my gal has had 2 and 10 incoming fleets total. How many have you and your terran gal mate had? Day after day attacking with your whole fleet is tough indeed.

People talk about ROCK/Fang losing a ton of roids, but if ND faced the same amount of incoming they would lose more than both.
Cry much? As said earlier any alliance would APP TGV CT all would have lost roids ...
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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 15:33   #54
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Oh when we hit rock they were ranked 2nd and we were ranked 3rd on our way back up from being ranked 6th. We did hit APP and when we hit them we were ranked 6th they were ranked 3rd. We have continued our war with them and their top planets as well.

We have clawed our way back and attacked hard ... and stuck by those tactics.

ND was never even ranked 1st for roids until the last few days ... its possible people didnt want to hit us when we werent near as fat as the other too.

Inn organized a gang bang on us after backstabbing us ... we hit them ... they are still hitting us but lack the roids for us to retal them ... so whats your point again?

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Does it honestly matter how any alliance wins this game, as long as you win by whatever tactics you use?
If all you're interested in is seeing a shiny '1' next to your alliance name and getting to talk to Appoco for 10 minutes at round end, then you should ignore the whining on AD and do whatever it takes. NAP, fence, backstab, etc. But if you want to be admired, you have to go about things differently. Winning a round is not what gives your alliance fame and prestige. The community has higher standards.
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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 15:43   #56
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If all you're interested in is seeing a shiny '1' next to your alliance name and getting to talk to Appoco for 10 minutes at round end, then you should ignore the whining on AD and do whatever it takes. NAP, fence, backstab, etc. But if you want to be admired, you have to go about things differently. Winning a round is not what gives your alliance fame and prestige. The community has higher standards.
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bunch of dribble

Inn organized a gang bang on us after backstabbing us ... we hit them ... they are still hitting us but lack the roids for us to retal them ... so whats your point again?
Inn organised a gangbang after they backstabbed you? here i was thinking it was you who backstabbed them by hitting 3 of their biggest planets after cooperating with them in attacks for the better part of the round.

And how big was that gangbang exactly? TGV ptargetted you for a night, without hardly any cooperation with Inn, and CT happened to do so seperately(they even piggied us) at the same moment. But i guess if you only gangbang your way to the top the whole round, everyone else must be gangbanging you too!
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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 15:54   #59
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lol
Do you think people would be impressed if Apprime won, with their cousins? After your little outburst of "we killed Apprime because they're cheating scum and everyone hates them"?

Do you think your win this round will go into PA memory as one on equal footing with, say, Deus r6, eXilition r15 or Ascendancy (and pretty much every other alliance that played that round) r30?
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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 16:10   #60
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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 16:12   #61
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Do you think people would be impressed if Apprime won, with their cousins? After your little outburst of "we killed Apprime because they're cheating scum and everyone hates them"?

Do you think your win this round will go into PA memory as one on equal footing with, say, Deus r6, eXilition r15 or Ascendancy (and pretty much every other alliance that played that round) r30?
I care about those rounds an PA history about as much as I care about this round ... and that is very little. I know that PA is an important part of your life ... but at some point you got to realize its a game ... and a sh*tty one at that ... its here to pass time. The only good part of this game is IRC anyways.
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Is this a ****ing intervention?.
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Unread 28 Feb 2013, 16:17   #63
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Inn organised a gangbang after they backstabbed you? here i was thinking it was you who backstabbed them by hitting 3 of their biggest planets after cooperating with them in attacks for the better part of the round.

And how big was that gangbang exactly? TGV ptargetted you for a night, without hardly any cooperation with Inn, and CT happened to do so seperately(they even piggied us) at the same moment. But i guess if you only gangbang your way to the top the whole round, everyone else must be gangbanging you too!

I should rephrase that to Inn tried to organize a gang bang on us but only got TGV.

And Inn was offered in game nap after they attacked our planet ... after a day or so of being ignored I withdrew it. And again if you guys think 2 out of 24 targets is a back stab and targeting Inn you are more delusional than Nightwolf. So yeah they said after our "massive" targeting of Inn (two gal raids on gal having 2 Inn in it) they were going to leave the block ... well not only did they do that they decided to go all out on us with whoever they could find. We responded ... now we cant even respond they have so few roids.
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Is this a ****ing intervention?.
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I dont think NewDawn had thought they would win this round at any point prior to the last week.
I dont think they played in any way, or were doing politics in any way wich had brought them there by skill/wit.
The other alliance that could win this round after how it had played out when 2/3 of the round was done, FAnG, played their political game so badly that they managed to lose 40k out of 93k roids the last 10 days of the round.
ND who had been on the winning block-wagon all round, and had done their parts of getting it there, where overshadowed by FAnG ego and incapabilities of doing good choices politicaly, that they were being kept safe due to it was a fatter sitting duck around for the other alliances to dine on.
I think everyone saying that this win isnt deserved is indeed bitter, ND played their game for 1200 ticks, that being backstabbing and blocking up to gang bang smaller allies, but still they were a step ahead of everyone else who tried to do the same.
This was a perfect round played by NewDawn
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No it doesn't.
And people who say it does fall into two categories:

They are either more bitter than a bottle of Angostura, or were dropped on their heads as babies.
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Congratulations NewDawn!

Always enjoyable when one of the true veteran alliances win a round, newdawn has been playing this game aslong as i can remember and no allie can be good every round, but this round they had good members and the few newdawn in my gal has been kickass ppl!

I found the round very boring... but thats probably because i went xan
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congrats ND, they say you don't deserve it but you must of done something right!!

btw wtf, can #2 change hands any more often!!
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btw wtf, can #2 change hands any more often!!
We are trying gm we are trying.

Who would have expected all these things from TGV eh?

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http://beta.planetarion.com/history/?id=6&round=50

With the exception of APP we had more incs than anyone in the 'enemy' block. We also had a high amount of attacks typically used to ground people attacking us. Rock had more attacks but they didnt get hardly any incs if you consider most of theirs are from a single 3 day period.

150-200 of TGVs incs were from one planet on the last night so for the round they get about as many incs as ROCK/CT

We also had the most alliance defense and considering we didnt defend the last 4 days at least that's quite a bit.

Any way you look at it we played our game had fun and won. GG
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And here i thought fang had insane amounts of incs... guess not!
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And here i thought fang had insane amounts of incs... guess not!
With 1700 of 3700 incs on FAnG apparently being ROCK fleets, i think it says a lot how good ROCK was to take out their opponents
This rounds fleet stats dosnt show much interesting, except that ROCK is the alliance with most attacking fleets ever since the 60 member cap was introduced, wich make them very 1337.
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With 1700 of 3700 incs on FAnG apparently being ROCK fleets, i think it says a lot how good ROCK was to take out their opponents
This rounds fleet stats dosnt show much interesting, except that ROCK is the alliance with most attacking fleets ever since the 60 member cap was introduced, wich make them very 1337.
pretty easy to attack a lot when your first incs dont show until 2/3 the way in and stop showing soon after because the roids are gone.
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pretty easy to attack a lot when your first incs dont show until 2/3 the way in and stop showing soon after because the roids are gone.
Oh, well, ROCK had only incs from FAnG/ND for 3 days or something like that?
I dont get that to add up, after that FAnG were grounding, and ND wernt hitting many ROCK planets, while the other block were hitting FAnG/Ult/ND/Whatever.
Where did 2300 incs come from and when?
Not trying to talk up ROCK or anything, just pointing out that ND is almost as full of bullshit as FAnG and their baby FAnGlings Innuendo.
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Congratz ND!

FAnG has the best allydef in whole pa but being targetted by 4 or more alliances nowadays grounding doesnt work that well. We forfeited defence since last tuesday and I am quite sure 60% of the incs were from the last 10 days of the round. And the incs rock had when they were targetted were far little than what which FAnG had. But nevertheless it doesnt matter how you win this game or how you play this game winning is winning and this round the victor is ND.
Interesting to see is the next round. Who will be the new victor?

I vote Apprime!
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Does anyone think that Rock is an alliance? I just wonder...
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BTW rock isnt good at taking our their opponent. It's the block who is good at taking out their opponent. Rock solely alone can do hmmm I dont want to be rude but I am sure all the others know what I am talking about. The key alliance isnt Rock or CT it was TGV. They were the kingmakers.
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BTW rock isnt good at taking our their opponent. It's the block who is good at taking out their opponent. Rock solely alone can do hmmm I dont want to be rude but I am sure all the others know what I am talking about. The key alliance isnt Rock or CT it was TGV. They were the kingmakers.
Really the whole issue was with strategy ... my strategy was for us to keep hitting APP another night then move onto TGV ... however FaNG I think had an agreement or just didnt want to hit them and wanted to hit ROCK ... LeeAdama was still doing the politics and this is what we ended up going for.

If the block would have continued to focus on TGV first and eliminate them prior to hitting rock and giving them a reason to join the block no one would have had the combined power to do much IMO.

The kingmaker or killer was the unification of one block vs one group and the other block at one point all hitting totally different targets.
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Oh, well, ROCK had only incs from FAnG/ND for 3 days or something like that?
I dont get that to add up, after that FAnG were grounding, and ND wernt hitting many ROCK planets, while the other block were hitting FAnG/Ult/ND/Whatever.
Where did 2300 incs come from and when?
Not trying to talk up ROCK or anything, just pointing out that ND is almost as full of bullshit as FAnG and their baby FAnGlings Innuendo.
Well I wasnt paying much attn for the EOR and rock as they didnt seem to do much ... but for the first part until they were hit they lost very few roids even though having notoriously bad def ... FANG ULT INN ND were all hitting APP for quite a long time while ROCK simply gal raided non forts to fatness ... I mean our members that got ROCK incs were typically in horrible gals and we still saw lots of ROCK crashes ... so for the round star and a good portion of it while warring with APP we can rule out a large portion of those incs. The for 3 or 4 days whatever it was ROCK bled record numbers (I assume even one tick losing 4K) ... once we were done hitting ROCK and decided to move on the half of the block focused back on APP while your block hit and grounded fang effectively ruling out much inc while that was happening ... the last few days I saw FANG starting to retaliate vs CT ... so I mean this leave a relatively small amount of time that you could have gotten many incs (even though your total number of incs is pretty low).

I wasnt in ROCK so I cant say for sure but the logic seems to flow pretty well. I mean when I mentioned no incs to Plaguu he did say you guys got atleast 10 per night so who knows maybe I'm wrong as thats pretty massive.

[18:35] <ManiacGym> not like rock has had any incoming all round anyways if we did
[18:35] <Plaguuu> yeah sure
[18:35] <ManiacGym> no its only lee i just point nds ships in a direction :P
[18:35] <Plaguuu> well
[18:36] <Plaguuu> then you oviously know
[18:36] <Plaguuu> about the avoidances
[18:36] <ManiacGym> yes
[18:36] <ManiacGym> for the most part
[18:36] <Plaguuu> and rock has had 10+ incs every night this round
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Really the whole issue was with strategy ... my strategy was for us to keep hitting APP another night then move onto TGV ... however FaNG I think had an agreement or just didnt want to hit them and wanted to hit ROCK ... LeeAdama was still doing the politics and this is what we ended up going for.

If the block would have continued to focus on TGV first and eliminate them prior to hitting rock and giving them a reason to join the block no one would have had the combined power to do much IMO.

The kingmaker or killer was the unification of one block vs one group and the other block at one point all hitting totally different targets.
You just make yourself look even far worse than you actualy do allready in my eyes.

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Session Start: Wed Feb 06 13:20:06 2013
[13:20] <Bible> if u going war with Fang we will drop nap
[13:20] <B-Butch3r> lol what are everyone on about
[13:20] <B-Butch3r> clearly someone in FAnG must be broken hearted over us
[13:21] <B-Butch3r> and seems like they know nuthing of nuthing
[13:21] <B-Butch3r> therefor PMing me
[13:21] <B-Butch3r> who have been enjoying a good nights sleep
[13:21] <B-Butch3r> and know nuthing aswell
[13:21] <Bible> I was enjoying being inactive
[13:21] <Bible> but noooo
[13:21] <Bible> wankers in HC roles ruin my inactiveness
[13:22] <Bible> So are Rock not warring Fang?
[13:23] <B-Butch3r> Not afaik
[13:23] <B-Butch3r> but it seems FAnG is gonna war us
[13:23] <B-Butch3r> u could go tell them that you will drop the NAP if they do
[13:23] <Bible> Fang dont want to war u
[13:23] <Bible> Ok who ever starts the war we will drop nap with
[13:24] <B-Butch3r> yeah, good choice
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[17:12] <B-Butch3r> yo
[17:12] <Bible> yo hoe
[17:39] <B-Butch3r> i spoke to nightwolf yesterday
[17:51] <Bible> yeah
[17:51] <B-Butch3r> He said that you had made up your mind
[17:51] <B-Butch3r> and its nothing more to say about it
[17:52] <B-Butch3r> beside im realy disapointed in you now, aswell as im disapointed in fang
[17:52] <Bible> Ok thats that then :.
[17:52] <B-Butch3r> Yeah, in the future please dont make promises
[17:52] <B-Butch3r> that you wont hold
[17:52] <Bible> I have kept my promises
[17:52] <Bible> havent broken a single one
[17:53] <B-Butch3r> No, unless you broke with FAnG you havnt
[17:53] <Bible> Im not in the mood for bullshit today. Lets be clear once and for all
[17:53] <Bible> I spoke to Hiall
[17:53] <Bible> and Plaguu
[17:53] <Bible> and Several other HC's that got chucked in
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[16:17] <LeeAdama|zzzzz> we are ending our nap
[16:17] <LeeAdama|zzzzz> discussed with the cts
[16:17] <LeeAdama|zzzzz> HCs
[16:17] <LeeAdama|zzzzz> its over effective immediately
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And now you go on into the EORC saying that taking down ROCK was a plan from the ND/FAnG/Innuendo block? How stupid can you be, your not only dragging your own reputation into the dirt of being backstabbers, but you aswell decide to drag FAnG and Innuendo with you?
FAnG got what they had been asking for this round, how Irvine could let such lying deciving bitches dirty the FAnG name is beyond me, and now NewDawn has been bragging on for days how well deserved this win was and how your masterplan realy turned out to be a strike of genious. We both know you never thought you would have a singel chance of winning two weeks ago, and that certain alliances wanted to get back at FAnG/SantaCruz was just a once in a life time chance for ND to win.
Id be ashamed of myself for backstabbing someone the way you did, and then afterwards bragging about it.
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BTW rock isnt good at taking our their opponent. It's the block who is good at taking out their opponent. Rock solely alone can do hmmm I dont want to be rude but I am sure all the others know what I am talking about. The key alliance isnt Rock or CT it was TGV. They were the kingmakers.
lol Irvine keep telling that to yourself, you know the only way to beat a top alliance is not giving em any slack, 40% of FAnGs incs this round was from ROCK, keep telling yourself that this is not a major reason why FAnG ended ranked 5.
Keep launching fleets, not to steal roids or to get XP, but to get the opponents allie to crumble, this is how FAnG won last round.
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So wait because we ended our nap, told you so first, and you didnt get to keep being the fattest allt/farming the lil guys we are back stabbers ( Oh I feel even worse for rock now, such a sad story.

Maybe if ROCK didnt get three days of incomings this round we wouldnt have to listen to you cry so much? Might of been worth it.

We had a non aggression pact, a relationship, we ended our relationship how is this backstabbing? BTW You good friends in TGV also wanted to hit you the whole uni wanted to hit rock for not getting incomings two or three days b4 we hit you clouds was asking me to stop hitting APP and hit you with them. Everyone knew what rock was doing and no one planned on letting rock win that way ... and when the metal was put in the fire you folded and folded hard.
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How many times do I need to make myself clear.
Rock isnt the issue neither is CT. It was TGV. If it was only ct/rock hitting us we would never needed to ground. Dont flatter Rock so much they are I try not to be rude again... General opinion about Rock is clear and general opinion on CT is also clear. General opinion on TGV hmmm I leave the comment up to MM... I am sure he describes it better than me...

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So wait because we ended our nap, told you so first, and you didnt get to keep being the fattest allt/farming the lil guys we are back stabbers ( Oh I feel even worse for rock now, such a sad story.

Maybe if ROCK didnt get three days of incomings this round we wouldnt have to listen to you cry so much? Might of been worth it.

We had a non aggression pact, a relationship, we ended our relationship how is this backstabbing? BTW You good friends in TGV also wanted to hit you the whole uni wanted to hit rock for not getting incomings two or three days b4 we hit you clouds was asking me to stop hitting APP and hit you with them. Everyone knew what rock was doing and no one planned on letting rock win that way ... and when the metal was put in the fire you folded and folded hard.
If you didnt want the deal u offered ROCK u shouldnt have offered it, and iirc u attacked ROCK firsth, and then the next tell us that u were breaking the avoidance. If u say u want a deal for two weeks, u keep it for two weeks.
The only reason for FAnG getting the rage instead of ND is because Santa made up fake logs to justify their betrayal.
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How many times do I need to make myself clear.
Rock isnt the issue neither is CT. It was TGV. If it was only ct/rock hitting us we would never needed to ground. Dont flatter Rock so much they are I try not to be rude again... General opinion about Rock is clear and general opinion on CT is also clear. General opinion on TGV hmmm I leave the comment up to MM... I am sure he describes it better than me...

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So what you are saying if TGV and CT or ROCK you wouldve had to ground?
You need to explain a little better. Was it the amout of fleet or value TGV sent, or the way they attacked? Or was it the fleet combo?
ROCK roided most of the FAnG top planets and def holes, did TGV do better at target picking?
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With the exception of APP we had more incs than anyone in the 'enemy' block.
The fact that you had fewer incs than both fAng and Ultores lends credit to what we've been saying all along: that ND hid behind 2 better alliances and won that way. You actually lost more roids than Ultores, despite getting significantly fewer incs, and capped fewer roids (corrected for number of planets), despite launching more attacks.

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FAnG has the best allydef in whole pa but being targetted by 4 or more alliances nowadays grounding doesnt work that well.
Offensive stats mean it's hard to hold onto your roids. fAnG would've done way better with last round's stats.

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And the incs rock had when they were targetted were far little than what which FAnG had.
Rock had worse defense than FaNG, but lost their roids much more quickly too. I figure those two facts balance out. I'd guess the number of incs they got per night during the 4 days they were being hit was about equal to the amount of incs faNG got during the 5 days they were being targetted heavily.

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BTW rock isnt good at taking our their opponent. It's the block who is good at taking out their opponent. Rock solely alone can do hmmm I dont want to be rude but I am sure all the others know what I am talking about. The key alliance isnt Rock or CT it was TGV. They were the kingmakers.
I was rather surprised to learn that Rock launched more attacks than any other alliance. I wouldn't dream of using that stat to proclaim us the best attackers in all of PA ever, but it confirms that Rock carried their weight. TGV were the straw that broke the camel's back, that's all. They were no more or less important than any other alliance in the block.

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[18:36] <Plaguuu> and rock has had 10+ incs every night this round
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If the block would have continued to focus on TGV first and eliminate them prior to hitting rock and giving them a reason to join the block no one would have had the combined power to do much IMO.
That depends how TGV would have organised their priorities. If they had grounded whilst experiencing block incoming, then it would've been a lengthily 'gang bang', leaving Apprime, CT & ROCK to give FAnG incoming.

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The king maker was a team effort from the CT/Apprime/TGV/ROCK* block.

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But nevertheless it doesnt matter how you win this game or how you play this game winning is winning and this round the victor is ND.
Although ManiacMagic is an arrogant ****, I have to agree with you there, NewDawn won the round, whether they were king made or not, they still won, so congratulations NewDawn!
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So wait because we ended our nap, told you so first, and you didnt get to keep being the fattest allt/farming the lil guys we are back stabbers ( Oh I feel even worse for rock now, such a sad story.

Maybe if ROCK didnt get three days of incomings this round we wouldnt have to listen to you cry so much? Might of been worth it.

We had a non aggression pact, a relationship, we ended our relationship how is this backstabbing? BTW You good friends in TGV also wanted to hit you the whole uni wanted to hit rock for not getting incomings two or three days b4 we hit you clouds was asking me to stop hitting APP and hit you with them. Everyone knew what rock was doing and no one planned on letting rock win that way ... and when the metal was put in the fire you folded and folded hard.
We had a avoidance with nd until 14th on the 12th you hit a rock fort without telling us together with fang which we had a end of ruond avoidance with. On the 13th after you've hit us you told us "The nap is over" you shouldnt have a problem remembering this day. The only reason we hit fang over nd is because you actually told us on the 13th that the nap was over(after you already broke it) while fang were given a deal that they would think about, and with no answer they kept hitting us.

And clouds im pretty sure tgv was no were close rock in giving fang incs. And the reason tgv/ct didnt win this round was that tgv/app guys were so slow in joining in on the fang bash. It took several days to get you in on the action, and several days of NAP cooldown after that CT however was always ready

And when ROCK was being heavily hit we had from 150-200 incs a night, but our def last half round was awful so we had no chance of holding roids.

Btw im not happy about nd stabbers winning, but Im truly happy about fang scum not winning!
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tgv/app guys were so slow in joining in on the fang bash.
Seriously? Rock actually backed out of a block created specifically to hit Fang and give Rock the round win, yet you go around calling other alliances 'slow'? Are you ****ing kidding me?
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Seriously? Rock actually backed out of a block created specifically to hit Fang and give Rock the round win, yet you go around calling other alliances 'slow'? Are you ****ing kidding me?
What he is aiming at is that ROCK were going alone against FAnG after FAnG/ND had betrayed ROCK late in the round, and therefor there was no time to get both FANG and ND.
What you are saying/aiming at is only partly correct, and i doubt that wouldve given ROCK then win if ROCK hadnt backed out early in the round.
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Gosh... I can't believe you kids still sit here, writing these essays.

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And clouds im pretty sure tgv was no were close rock in giving fang incs.
Where did I say otherwise?

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And the reason tgv/ct didnt win this round was that tgv/app guys were so slow in joining in on the fang bash. It took several days to get you in on the action, and several days of NAP cooldown after that CT however was always ready
When you approached us, we were busy fighting Ultores. Though, if you hadn't tried fencing, we would've probably fought FAnG sooner rather than later.

You had good loyal allies who agreed to help ROCK get the round win, but you decided to try and fence instead, which seriously backfired.
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Re: Congrats ND

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What he is aiming at is that ROCK were going alone against FAnG after FAnG/ND had betrayed ROCK late in the round, and therefor there was no time to get both FANG and ND.
If we'd stayed in the CT/Apprime block, we would still have gotten roided, but we would've had allies to hit FaNG right from the start. The only reason Rock had to go alone was because we'd left our allies in the cold.

You're running a marathon. You arrive at the start with your buddies and when the starter pistol goes off, all of you start running. But after 100m you decide that, you know what, this running business is for chumps. You'd rather take the car. Your friends keep going. Then halfway to the finish line, your engine dies. Shit. Well, guess you'd better start running again. After half an hour, your buddies catch up with you and you yell at them for keeping you waiting all this time.

Context is important.
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We had a avoidance with nd until 14th on the 12th you hit a rock fort without telling us together with fang which we had a end of ruond avoidance with. On the 13th after you've hit us you told us "The nap is over" you shouldnt have a problem remembering this day. The only reason we hit fang over nd is because you actually told us on the 13th that the nap was over(after you already broke it) while fang were given a deal that they would think about, and with no answer they kept hitting us.

And clouds im pretty sure tgv was no were close rock in giving fang incs. And the reason tgv/ct didnt win this round was that tgv/app guys were so slow in joining in on the fang bash. It took several days to get you in on the action, and several days of NAP cooldown after that CT however was always ready

And when ROCK was being heavily hit we had from 150-200 incs a night, but our def last half round was awful so we had no chance of holding roids.

Btw im not happy about nd stabbers winning, but Im truly happy about fang scum not winning!
Fang scum? Bit harsh isnt it? Fang are lovely. I dont know what makes rock think we backstabbed them, since you guys were giving us inc all round, surely you getting battered was inevitable? Or is that just me? Backstabbing hah.
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We gave you incs when we had no deal with eachother, you gave us incs when we had a end of round avoidance. Thats the difference between stabbing and backstabbing
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If we'd stayed in the CT/Apprime block, we would still have gotten roided, but we would've had allies to hit FaNG right from the start. The only reason Rock had to go alone was because we'd left our allies in the cold.

You're running a marathon. You arrive at the start with your buddies and when the starter pistol goes off, all of you start running. But after 100m you decide that, you know what, this running business is for chumps. You'd rather take the car. Your friends keep going. Then halfway to the finish line, your engine dies. Shit. Well, guess you'd better start running again. After half an hour, your buddies catch up with you and you yell at them for keeping you waiting all this time.

Context is important.
ROCK had been approaching CT for a NAP since pt1 more or less, and been rejected everytime we asked.
A lot of our members had strong ties to both FAnG and Apprime, and they both seemed to be in a tier above ROCK pre-round, so we didnt want to pick any side. We first had agreed to backing Apprime, as they seemed to be outnumbered, but after FAnG had been threating us to give us incs for the rest of the round or something like that Plaguuu/TheoDD decided to leave Apprime more or less alone to fight FAnG, and agreeing to a NAP deal with FAnG. This was pretty shitty done by ROCK indeed, but to defend myself; me and RaUlZiTo and Illusion was against doing this.
Anyway we had enough time to hit FAnG, but not enough time to get someone we wanted to win into #1
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Re: Congrats ND

Hmmm I was inactive for like 3/4 of the round so I dont really know what my fellow pe0ns HC have agreed on with other alliances. The breaking nap with TGV was from both sides:
1. C provokes S 2. S provokes C back 3. C went whacko 4. S went whacko 5. C and S fighting 6. conclusion no more nap.

I dont really know what the deal was with rock but I rememberred they attacked with their block around tick 500 on FAnG. Breaking their avoidance agreement first so I guess what comes around goes around.

But either way I dont like breaking naps or stabbing or whateva you guys call it. So the allies who think they were unjustified by our actions I hereby apolagise as FAnG Boss to the alliances who were wronged.

ok this is my last post back in 2 months!
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