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Unread 17 May 2005, 22:24   #51
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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Lol, well i can understand a request to drop it if its too long, which is fair enough but to drop it because it relates to Planetarion??
The fact that GD is part of the Planetarion forums is more an accident of history than a fundamental aspect of its identity.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

Many people have been "accepted" into the gd community recently. Most GD posters have a thing against threads which have been posted frequently before though, especially when they're of such limited discussion quality. I'd like to think most people posted here to try and show you this (in their own unique way), however maybe most of us are just complete assholes. It's a tolerant place as long as you're coherent, rational and pay attention to what other people do/say.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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its called valid criticism.
The criticism may be deemed valid by the community but that dont give license for some to post like a tw@t

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But anyway - it's called trolling and you fell for it. haha n00b.

And we're bored... so very bored... damn revision
Indeed, trolling & bordom go hand in hand and i was well aware of the trolling, i just enjoy ripping peoples posts apart in arguements;D

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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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Is there like an irc channel on NG where a gang of these obnoxious f.ucks hang out & plot their next attack?
Historically, the #forums IRC channel was a bastion for arguments about the definition of "self" and "the individual", and the like. Back when Jonny, nod and I were the only significant participants.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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Many people have been "accepted" into the gd community recently. Most GD posters have a thing against threads which have been posted frequently before though, especially when they're of such limited discussion quality. I'd like to think most people posted here to try and show you this (in their own unique way), however maybe most of us are just complete assholes. It's a tolerant place as long as you're coherent, rational and pay attention to what other people do/say.
Quite so. GD is not an insular community, it's just an elitist one.



For a very wide and strange definition of "elite", of course.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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Many people have been "accepted" into the gd community recently. Most GD posters have a thing against threads which have been posted frequently before though, especially when they're of such limited discussion quality. I'd like to think most people posted here to try and show you this (in their own unique way), however maybe most of us are just complete assholes. It's a tolerant place as long as you're coherent, rational and pay attention to what other people do/say.
I totally understand what your saying but you should know more then any1 here (being a mod) that flametary posting is NOT the best way to give advice lol. Do you usually allow the GD posters to rip apart newbies to the forum? Because it is one thing to say "omg, pls not another of these threads" and its another to remark about bashing the posters head against a rock, lol.

Those kind of comments only fair well if the sender & receiver know each other:/
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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Indeed, trolling & bordom go hand in hand and i was well aware of the trolling, i just enjoy ripping peoples posts apart in arguements;D
So even you haven't enjoyed this thread


oh and you can say twat too.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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Because it is one thing to say "omg, pls not another of these threads" and its another to remark about bashing the posters head against a rock
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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I totally understand what your saying but you should know more then any1 here (being a mod) that flametary posting is NOT the best way to give advice lol. Do you usually allow the GD posters to rip apart newbies to the forum? Because it is one thing to say "omg, pls not another of these threads" and its another to remark about bashing the posters head against a rock, lol.
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no.

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<mum> hey sil did you see that on gd, some guy asking for your funniest irc logs
<silver> yeah I noticed mom. So what are we going to eat tomorrow?
<mum> don't you have funny irc logs?
<silver> no, actually I think it's a rather shit idea
<mum> oh lol nevermind then. Oh we will probably eat self made pizza =]
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[22:32:15] (TomKat): that thread about "funniest IRC quotes" sure is shit
These examples are all fairly civil, although it could be argued that the parodies of the form are confrontational rather than just constructed for the purpose of irony. I must point out that I don't think that's the case, however.

Once you get to a certain point, there just aren't any more interesting ways to say "I disapprove of this thread paradigm", so it tends to get more openly aggressive.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

This thread is so awful.

It started off awful, and it has tailed off into super-crapness.

I propose noone replies after this post.

Especially you, Seth Mace.

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Is it permitted to post on another topic entirely, therefore arguably not "replying" to any of the content in the thread?

I do realise that I have replied to the thread by posting this.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

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I totally understand what your saying but you should know more then any1 here (being a mod) that flametary posting is NOT the best way to give advice lol. Do you usually allow the GD posters to rip apart newbies to the forum? Because it is one thing to say "omg, pls not another of these threads" and its another to remark about bashing the posters head against a rock, lol.

Those kind of comments only fair well if the sender & receiver know each other:/
I quite like the way GD has evolved. It's really very rare that a poster gets any sort of abuse unless they post a low quality thread. This has nothing to do with the fact you're new (although the fact you're new caused you to post the low quality thread). Nobody even commented on the fact you hadn't posted at all/often on GD in your star wars episode III thread because good threads are welcomed no matter who posts them.


Oh and "inflamatory" for the record.
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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

Clearly, this thread hadn't much potential, but that is only because of the types/personalities(for the lack of a better word) of posters who inhabit GD. So many whine about the lack of active/new posters on GD without realising that there're a few cases that it's they themselves to blame. The trend/habit of attempting to portray oneself as witty and/or superior by vilifying users* is slightly irritating considering that the usual premise is 'shit post/poster' or 'troll' for the vilification. The hypocrisy isn't rampant but fairly featured throughout here, and defended only by the history and the name held by those who commit, which of course is sufficient providing they are consistent to allow occasional drops in quality but when the quantity of crap increases, it gets tiresome. It's not like GD doesn't get visited by fairly intelligent and interesting people (I mean, ones who don't already post here.) I can think of quite a few who I converse with on IRC who're put off by the far too repetitive aggressive attempts of appearing 'cool' to post much/at all.


*I'm not defending most of these trolls/retards or this thread, but by telling them that "they should know who they're talking to and behave" or some troll rather than explaining at least once why they're being shit isn't helping anyone. The ratio of something comedic spawning out of trolling shit users to nothing interesting favours largely to the latter. (With notable exceptions eg: that Dace & TSM thread - a midnight's summers dream.)

General Discussions is far too 'complex' for the average PA player to post without being aware of the other factors involved, it's more like a trap where if you post something which would qualify under 'General Discussions' but has been discussed to death - the generic Da Vinci Code & Donnie Darko threads come to mind, would pretty much result in neg-repping and constant trolling. Sometimes I think there should be another subforum for the pa players to use for 'GD' purposes, for they(we) are generally far too crap to post here without being dragged into needless crap.



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Re: Your Funniest IRC Quote

I'm reliably informed that "leetspeak"'s still "cool" to the mass of the more retarded ones who play CS and the likes.
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I am not sure, but if you speak about 'leetspeak' being used on GD then you should take a closer look at this forum before judging, it's mainly (if ever) used in a parodising sense, to highlight sillyness or in a sarcastic manner.


dunno if u ment that tho
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Clearly, this thread hadn't much potential, but that is only because of the types/personalities(for the lack of a better word) of posters who inhabit GD. So many whine about the lack of active/new posters on GD without realising that there're a few cases that it's they themselves to blame. The trend/habit of attempting to portray oneself as witty and/or superior by vilifying users* is slightly irritating considering that the usual premise is 'shit post/poster' or 'troll' for the vilification. The hypocrisy isn't rampant but fairly featured throughout here, and defended only by the history and the name held by those who commit, which of course is sufficient providing they are consistent to allow occasional drops in quality but when the quantity of crap increases, it gets tiresome. It's not like GD doesn't get visited by fairly intelligent and interesting people (I mean, ones who don't already post here.) I can think of quite a few who I converse with on IRC who're put off by the far too repetitive aggressive attempts of appearing 'cool' to post much/at all.
Yahwe explained where seth went wrong in post 11 of this thread.


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I'm sorry, the superb posts surrounding that one must've made me assume it was of similar nature.

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Even nantoz has been accepted with great delight despite the fact he's an argumentative tool whose opinions differ wildly from those most GD posters hold.
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Seth only really uses "leetspeak" when he evades the censors and cleanses the dirtiness of the word he is using by replacing the i in shit with a 1!
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Two hundred and ninety four posts and I doubt that any of them have expressed agreement, explicit or implicit, with anyone. I remember you taking part in more than three threads so I'm sure there have been others.
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Sigh.....

Lets 'get to the main jist of what i want to say'


GD is not 'picking on you'
GD is not victimising you because you dont post here
GD is not actively flaming you in any way that id consider 'omg ban him' material.

What has happened is that a rather poor thread that really was never going to 'fly' was shot down rapidly in a sucession of posts saying 'this isnt going to work'

Now : Whilst these 'it isnt going to work' posts may not be using the loveliest words of the English language they do convey the identicle message of 'this is a pretty crap thread'.

Whilst some of your points are valid I think its fairly safe to say that its all been blown way out of proportion. GD doesnt victimise people it doesnt recognise. Recently theres been a spat of new unfamiliar faces posting here. Some 'get it'. Others 'dont'. Those who dont are told where they are going wrong.

By 'Get it', i mean they realise this isnt your average run of the mill retard forum where people post things like 'MY FAVORITE COLOUR' and get 22,000 replies. Its fairly distinct from most because the level of intelligent conversation is (usually) above par.

Obviously it has its down moments but for the most part the threads on the forum are fairly interesting and a 'good read'.


The users who come here and add to GD are embraced with open arms. The ones that post crap threads are usually shot down. This either results in them never posting here again or it means they think before they do it next time. (which imo is quite a good thing).
Its kind of like a self regulating forum!



The thing is that there seems to be this 'myth' that if you post on General Discussions and your name isnt recognised then people will automatically begin firing at you. This isnt true. If someone whos not recognised makes a good thread people reply to it and discussion commences!

If someone who isnt familiar posts a crap thread then they are usually informed its a bit crap.
ITs when they take offence that the 'problems' are created.

I hope this clear things up.
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These forums weren't here in 1999. In fact I think the game only started in early 2000 (I only signed up at the end of r1 so correct if I'm wrong here guys).

PS What were your previous account names if you remember?
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forums wernt around in 1999.

my huge epenis reliably informs me i have one of the early accounts at may 2000 but theres a few from feb like spinner etc.
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april 2000 here you fool!
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I'd like to bring up that after silversmoke's account was banned he went around for ages with his signature stating that he was registered in april 2000. Yes kids he really was that gay.
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You already spoke out your opinion about that phase in my life
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I like to reinforce my points on issues of such vital internet importance.
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[16:25] * Now talking in #linux
[16:25] * Topic is '(15:42:45) Andy: i dont want to meet rr'
[16:25] * Set by ben on Tue May 17 16:24:12
[16:26] <^4VAlien^> Slidey better not be dissing my SS man!
[16:27] <ben> he is
[16:28] <idimmu> ive met rr
[16:28] <idimmu> it was ultimatly unimpressive
[16:28] <ben> me and slidey are tall
[16:28] <ben> rr is gay
[16:30] <idimmu> slidey is a great outgoing cheerful person
[16:30] <idimmu> i found that intimmidating
[16:32] <ben> i am quiet
[16:32] <ben> you cant say ****** in pubs
[16:33] <^4VAlien^> o//
[16:34] <^4VAlien^> the nail of my thumb is slighty ****ed
[16:39] <idimmu> so's your mum
[16:40] <ben> you are mum
[16:40] <idimmu> get back to work son
[16:44] <ben> i have a nose bleed
[16:46] <HRH_H_Crab> calyx - tearing us apart
[16:47] <HRH_H_Crab> this is possibly the best tune ever.
You just randomly pasted the first few lines you saw when you came on today. DIDN'T YOU. ADMIT IT. </idimmu impersonation >
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I don't really remember any of those that well but there were hundreds if not thousand of posters back then so it's not surprising. I think r3 started in october 2000.
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BTW: whatever happened to Mer? The Norwegians had a field day with her name...
Her dog died, then Sunday8PM laughed about it on the forums in his Sunday-inappropriate-esque-ness-thing, Mer! quit and Sunday got banned. Sunday has been back for a while, but got banned again twice, and now occasionally uses another account to post about World of Warcraft.

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my huge epenis reliably informs me i have one of the early accounts at may 2000 but theres a few from feb like spinner etc.
If you have a huge e-penis, it's a wonder mine hasn't impregnated every single last one of you in some bizarre Internet cyber-flesh thing kind of way due to the inordinately large size it must have seeing how my account dates from April 2000.

Oh wait...
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Having seen those meet photos, whenever I see Dace post I now have an image of him grinning like a maniac.
And for yahwe i just substitute stephen fry.

I realise this is unrelated to the thread, but frankly it can't get much worse.
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I propose noone replies after this post.

Especially you, Seth Mace.

It seems noone gives a sh1t what you say tomkat:P (i did try btw:/)

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What has happened is that a rather poor thread that really was never going to 'fly' was shot down rapidly in a sucession of posts saying 'this isnt going to work'

Now : Whilst these 'it isnt going to work' posts may not be using the loveliest words of the English language they do convey the identicle message of 'this is a pretty crap thread'.
Thats not the only thing they convey, hence my continued argument:/

Can you not understand my "shock" to read the responses to a thread, which i tried to post in good community spirit? (as in the thread was only an invitiation from others to post their "funnys") I suppose your answer is no because you would have stepped in otherwise.

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Whilst some of your points are valid I think its fairly safe to say that its all been blown way out of proportion. GD doesnt victimise people it doesnt recognise. Recently theres been a spat of new unfamiliar faces posting here. Some 'get it'. Others 'dont'. Those who dont are told where they are going wrong.

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The thing is that there seems to be this 'myth' that if you post on General Discussions and your name isnt recognised then people will automatically begin firing at you. This isnt true. If someone whos not recognised makes a good thread people reply to it and discussion commences!
That is total sh1te mate. Tbh i cant believe any forum mod would make such a comment, your identity is VITAL in net communities and each & every posters name conveys a message. Be that one of "this poster is a well respected & liked regular" compared with "this poster is unknown", to give 2 simple examples.

Now tell me, using these simple examples and imaging both made a similar "provocative" thread, who is more likely be flamed?

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I've every right to take offense like they have to post their "helpful" comments. The problem imo aint me replying (and trying to explain how i think flaming innocent posters isnt the best way to get your message across), its this norm around here that (as has been covered already) being rude is to be intelligent, witty & possibly cool.

It's like "grow up" fs?

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My impression excatcly. But Seth seems to be talking "leet" as often as possible.
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Seth only really uses "leetspeak" when he evades the censors and cleanses the dirtiness of the word he is using by replacing the i in shit with a 1!
Thank you jerome;P

Nantoz is a good example here of regulars jumping on the "bashing" wagon.

Anyways, my post will im sure extend this thread again but i wanted to reply to state that its not good enough to assume new posters will understand the mechanics of this board. Why haven't the mods created a "Read this before you post" thread?
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Well Seth, I secretly did like your thread, also I just love your writing style. Please post more.
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seth you're right it was rude...... but who cares? it was quite funny tbh. i've made PLENTY of shit threads (most recent my "my pretencious palette") but all this arrogant community has managed so far is some neg rep and a shunning of me in public
all that's really happened is that the "common politeness" has been skipped. think of how you are with old friends.... when you think of it like that, the GC elite squad were actually just embracing you without judging you.....
no-one's asked you to bugger off, just make better threads. post something you really find interesting not something you thought would ease you into the community, it seems to earn you more respect.
take it from me, i've been accepted ! yahwe told me so....... then when i was feeling low he suggested i cut myself...... now less than 50% of the GD regulars regularly suggest that i "go away and die" \o/
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Nantoz is a good example here of regulars jumping on the "bashing" wagon.
Nantoz? regular? hahaha.

Big_horn is a good example of someone new coming and not getting forced out. All Systems Go is another one.
In fact there are quite a few recently. And a few examples of people who just don't fit in.
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I thought All Systems Go was an old poster with a new account?
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If this thread is seen as n00by by the GC community then fair enough, just let the fooking thread die but the reason im still posting here is i wont stand for any1 giving me abuse,
Ok, you seriously need to stop posting here until youve got a lot more internet experience under your belt. Maybe you should just limit your internet time to IRC for a while, but if you're determined to incorporate some kind of browser-related activity into your routine, you can find a good web based IRC client here which will let you talk 2 ur m8s within the familiar enviornment of your internet explorer internet browser! And while we're on that subject, I'd also advise you to give serious consideration to the internet chat rooms in which you participate, because you seem to be picking up some bad habits which are going to stand in the way of improving your general online skills. Perhaps you should try idling in some new channels until you get the hang of whats going on, then you can start to pick up some general tips by watching others. There are several popular channels where the level of discourse seems to be vaguely higher than what you're used to, so maybe you can start with something #planetarion and work your way up.

Now, internet forums are an entirely different thing from 'real time chat', so you cant just assume that whatever you've picked up on IRC will translate over to them without modification. For instance, you seem to be using a lot of expressions like 'u', 'any1' and 'i' . Now this kind of thing acceptable is acceptable within some primitive communities on IRC where you dont always have time to type out a long message particularly if you're new to the internet and havent yet learned how to touchtype, but it is generally frowned upon forums based communication, where you are expected to utilize the increased time you have in order to make your messages presentable and coherent. Now if you're using expressions like 'u' because you are genuinelly unable to type full words at a reasonable speed, I would suggest checking out mavis beacon - a program aimed at increasing people's typing speed. Being able to type fast is a very important skill in today's increasingly computerized world, and will certainly increase your career prospects as well as your online reputation. If you look around a forum like this one, you will notice that the majority of posters are very particular about using correct grammer and spelling in their posts, and the ones that fail to do this generally tend to be the ones who are widely disliked.

Like IRC, becoming competent at internet forums is something that requires practice, but this is not the place for you to gain the experience you need. It's like anything really - you have to start small, and only move up a stage when youre ready. There are plenty of forums which would be receptive to your style of communication, such as slashdot or free republic. I'd advise you to use them as 'training grounds' until you feel comfortable moving on.

Anyway, good luck with whatever avenue you decide to pursue. Feel free to message me if you need any more specific advice about IRC or general internet matters - I usually check my PMs here every couple of days, and you can sometimes find me on netgamers as 'nodrog'.
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I thought All Systems Go was an old poster with a new account?
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I thought All Systems Go was an old poster with a new account?
possibly... I have no idea.
Most of us wouldn't know that.
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