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Unread 5 Jul 2007, 01:14   #1
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Broadband

Well, Tiscali are shit. Wondering if you lot have any suggestions as to the most reliable/good value broadband ISPs. I want to be gaming, so I don't want lag. I'd preferably like to pay under £20 per month. I live in Manchester, if that makes any difference, and I'm assuming that I should be near enough the exchange, but Tiscali keep insisting that I might not be.

Basically just trawling for anyone with bad/good experiences. Ta.
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Re: Broadband

I use Pipex. I get a ping of <50 on most UK servers i game on, not sure how much they charge these days because i'm still on an old package for ~£23/month - it's supposed to be a 1Mb/s connection, but it's 2Mb/s for some reason.

I've heard their customer support is rubbish, but i've never had a problem with my connection so i wouldn't know for sure.
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Re: Broadband

depends where you live in manc, and whether you're willing to spend another four quid http://www.bethere.co.uk
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Re: Broadband

I'm with Be and they've been pretty good, I don't get anywhere near 24mb (4-6) but the customer-service is decent enough, and the lead-time on setup was quite short.
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Re: Broadband

I use Newnet and although they charge for connection and stuff I've never been unable to connect in 16 months.

They also show what your usage is on an hourly basis which is useful...


EDIT oh and it's a 2mb line (although they do do 8) and I pay £12 a month but that's with a 3GB of usage - then it's a fiver for every 5GB after that or something.
I was on a 20GB usage for £20 a month but I found I rarely used more than 3...

EDIT 2 www.newnet.co.uk
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Re: Broadband

pipex used to have excellent customer support... until they expanded, when it wernt a bit shit for some reason, im on the old £23 a month serviece as well, everyone got upgraded to 2mb/s on it and even then it isnt the greatest value, although its very rare i have any problems
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Re: Broadband

I can't really say a bad word about BT.

Although I don't really know what pings and stuff are, I pay £18 a month for an 8mb line. I haven't had an iota of trouble. It is reliable, a name you can trust and not a bad price.

Go with what you know imo, not some company you have never heard of...
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Unread 6 Jul 2007, 14:06   #8
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Re: Broadband

i'm on virgin in exeter 'cause we don't want to have to pay for a telephone line (we already had a cable line for some reason), and bt at my parents house. Although we don't get the speed we're paying for in exeter (pretty much everyone in exeter is under the same provider it seems), it's still pretty good, no download limit etc.
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Unread 6 Jul 2007, 14:33   #9
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Re: Broadband

Best ISP I've been with in the past five years has undoubtedly been Nildram. On Pipex this year with no discernible issues, though as a result I've not had to contact their customer services. One of the few with a reasonable FUP. Nilly's isn't bad too, or at least last I checked it was a 50gig/mo peak-time cap, with no cap between midnight and 8am. Plenty for some CS and overnight leeching of House.
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Unread 6 Jul 2007, 16:55   #10
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Re: Broadband

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i'm on virgin in exeter 'cause we don't want to have to pay for a telephone line (we already had a cable line for some reason), and bt at my parents house. Although we don't get the speed we're paying for in exeter (pretty much everyone in exeter is under the same provider it seems), it's still pretty good, no download limit etc.
Virgin have been capping their cable for a while now, something they introduced very quietly. During peak times (which they define as 4pm till midnight) if you download more than the limit for your connection (350mb on 2mbps, 750mb on 4mbps, 3gb on 10mbps), they restrict your speed to 50% for 4 hours, even if those hours go into the off-peak zone.

They still advertise "With Virgin broadband you get unlimited downloads as a basic right", and don't see any hypocrisy in having smallprint to an "acceptable usage policy" underneath it.
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Unread 9 Jul 2007, 14:25   #11
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Re: Broadband

Phang said Finland sounds like a stupid place, but to actually cap the amount of download? Never heard of. I'm paying a bitchload (some 50e or something) for a "10mb", but at least there's no download caps.
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1-x, which one is the best in terms of cost/performance that allows for a wireless connection and doesn't involve drilling holes in your house?
I use AOL broadband wireless which goes through the phoneline, if that's of any help.
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Unread 17 Jul 2007, 16:47   #13
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Re: Broadband

I`m with Virgin Media (ex-Telewest). I pay £35 a month now. I`m suposed to be on 10 Mb/s (soon to be up graded to 20 Mb/s for free) , but it`s nowhere near that. Customer service is OK, but now virgin Media are charging quite alot to phone up their broadband support service.
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Re: Broadband

I use sky which if you have sky tv and are in the right area is a pretty good deal. I pay £10 a month for unlimited with speeds upto 16Mbs (its adsl so what speed you actually get can vary dramatically depending on how far from exchange you are).

The router they supply is a bit buggy and your not technically allowed to use anything but their router but its easy to rip the details out of the router (the Skyuser forums make it easy) so you can use any router you want

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Virgin have been capping their cable for a while now, something they introduced very quietly. During peak times (which they define as 4pm till midnight) if you download more than the limit for your connection (350mb on 2mbps, 750mb on 4mbps, 3gb on 10mbps), they restrict your speed to 50% for 4 hours, even if those hours go into the off-peak zone.

They still advertise "With Virgin broadband you get unlimited downloads as a basic right", and don't see any hypocrisy in having smallprint to an "acceptable usage policy" underneath it.
Your find pretty much every ISP has some kind of traffic shaping going on though, even those that advertise unlimited downloads and tbh heavy downloaders only have themselves to blame.There is really very little need for anyone downloading gigabytes of data to be doing it in peak time, its not like we are back in the dialup age where connection time costs you money so theres nothing stopping downloads to done outside peak or taking advantage of the p2p apps schedulers to throttle speeds back at peak time and speed up outside them

And if your not a frequent high bandwidth user then the odd large download isnt going to do much to effect you. Your use your allowance up, be cut to half the speed but even on the lowest package its more than quick enough to do normal web surfing and email
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Re: Broadband

Pipex will soon have WiMAX in Manchester (link), which will mean no wires, no cables and roaming capability.

Later in the year/early next year, it'll be Mobile, so you can surf porn while driving your car!

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Has anyone had any dealings with Orange broadband? If so what are they like?
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I dunno, but i'm tempted by the free laptop deal they've got going on atm
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Orange broadband are incredibly shit, that laptop had better be worth it.
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Re: Broadband

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I'm on them ( used to be freeserve who were bought by wanadoo who rebranded to orange etc etc )
Not had any major issues with them, speed seems reasonable although im supposed to be on 8mbit but have 2 since the exchange hasnt been upgraded yet.
No traffic shaping that i can detect, although they do route all connections to smtp servers through their own ( something thats both good and bad ) on the default port.
30 gb/month usage limit though, and upload speed is a trifle slow - but you'll find that with most providers
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Re: Broadband

I use Zen, pretty costly but very good. Second choice would be Nildram cheaper only reason I'm not with them is that you have to pay extra for a fixed IP, never had any problems with them, we use them at work I permanently max out the 8M line with no issues (that is a business line though, so home may have caps). Nildram are related to Jolt, gaming was always very good via them, very good pings. Think you can actually sign up with them via Jolt web site.
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Re: Broadband

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No traffic shaping that i can detect, although they do route all connections to smtp servers through their own ( something thats both good and bad ) on the default port.
30 gb/month usage limit though, and upload speed is a trifle slow - but you'll find that with most providers
They do traffic shape - I read it recently.
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Re: Broadband

50 in ping in your own country?, UK isps must suck donkeyballs
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Tesco. Don't know how good the support is as I've never had to call them in 28 months since I got it in.
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