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27 Sep 2005, 19:58
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Tony Blairs speech
It's all here for you to read:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4287370.stm
A few things that jump out at me and make me thnk WHAT?:
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If you've the money, you buy better.
That is an affront to every progressive value we believe in.
There's a great myth here: which is that we don't have a market in services now. We do. It's called private schools and private healthcare.
But it's only open to the well-off.
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Umm, Haven't Labour made this worse in the last 8 years?
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Specialist schools, denounced at the time, have performed better than traditional comprehensives. Fact.
City Academies are massively over-subscribed. Fact.
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Yes specialist schools have performed well. they've got more funding, all the good teachers, all the better pupils and made other schools perform considerably worse!
The same goes for city academies.
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For 8 years I have battered the criminal justice system to get it to change.
And it was only when we started to introduce special ASB laws, we really made a difference.
And I now understand why. The system itself is the problem. We are trying to fight 21st century crime - ASB, drug-dealing, binge-drinking, organised crime - with 19th century methods, as if we still lived in the time of Dickens.
The whole of our system starts from the proposition that its duty is to protect the innocent from being wrongly convicted.
Don't misunderstand me. That must be the duty of any criminal justice system.
But surely our primary duty should be to allow law-abiding people to live in safety.
It means a complete change of thinking.
It doesn't mean abandoning human rights.
It means deciding whose come first.
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:eek: this sounds VERY worrying!
Anyway, what do you lot think about the above issues and other things in his speech?
Oh and Alan Milburn said Labour were a centre-left party HAHAHA
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27 Sep 2005, 20:01
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
The speech needs pauses represented. It just isn't a Blair speech without pauses. Perhaps some new punctuation mark could be developed to represent a Blair pause. A stylised cheesy grin, perhaps.
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He was crowned in York Cathedral as 'Expert in the West' by Pope Urban III in 1186.
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27 Sep 2005, 20:03
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
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Originally Posted by Proteus
The speech needs pauses represented. It just isn't a Blair speech without pauses. Perhaps some new punctuation mark could be developed to represent a Blair pause. A stylised cheesy grin, perhaps.
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i think the line breaks represent his longer pauses...
for example:
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The question now:
How do we secure the future
For our party and
For our country?
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27 Sep 2005, 20:04
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
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Originally Posted by Proteus
The speech needs pauses represented. It just isn't a Blair speech without pauses. Perhaps some new punctuation mark could be developed to represent a Blair pause. A stylised cheesy grin, perhaps.
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a william shatner head icon.
he uses pauses the same way
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27 Sep 2005, 23:59
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
it's going to upset harry.
I never thought Tony Blair had it in him ro be brave enough to to piss off 'the wolfe'
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28 Sep 2005, 02:33
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4287906.stm
"I never doubted after September 11 that our place was alongside America and I don't doubt it now.
"And for the very simple reason terrorism struck most dramatically in New York but it was aimed then, and is aimed now, at us all, at our way of life."
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28 Sep 2005, 02:53
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
well not at norway
so feel free to be safe and secure and to mock those who are actually targets
EDIT: perhaps you could invade lindisfarne I'm sure that would help
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29 Sep 2005, 15:08
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
I thought the speach was crap.
He just seemed to get caught up into his own rhetoric/arse.
The panel on newsnight were lapping it up though.
I could feel their semi-sexual sense of excitement.
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29 Sep 2005, 15:16
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
Maybe afterwards we can gather around the fires and burn effigies of civil rights campaigners.
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29 Sep 2005, 15:48
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
Im sure the london bombings happened becouse brits eat fish and chips.
We all know how much Bin Laden & co hates fish&chips, and burgers! We must protect our way of life!!!
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30 Sep 2005, 01:32
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
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I could feel their semi-sexual sense of excitement.
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Ah, good. I thought it was just me who felt that way about Tony.
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30 Sep 2005, 02:10
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Re: Tony Blairs speech
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Ah, good. I thought it was just me who felt that way about Tony.
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i see the televisual programme 'Little Britain' (which is aired by BBC America!!!!) has not yet reached you
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Sebastian Love (Walliams) is an aide to the Prime Minister (played by Anthony Stewart Head) on whom he has a huge crush. He is amazingly bitchy to anyone else who the Prime Minister shows attention to, even his wife.
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it is so obviously dear tony it is untrue.
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