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Unread 1 Apr 2005, 18:02   #1
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"Detachment"... what's the word for it?

Here in the Netherlands we have the word "detachering" to describe agencies/people who place/are placed into projects of other companies.
For example, an old classmate of mine was detached at Philips, which means he'll be working at Philips in a project, but is employed by this "detachment" agency.
Googling for "detachment" turns up too many medical sites for my liking, so my guess is that I'm not looking for the right word.
So what's the word for this?

Also, while you're at it, can you name some of these agencies?
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

umm.

contracting maybe ?

theres not quite a similar uk term i don't think.

consulting companies sometimes do similar things.
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

subcontracting
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

Seconding

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Originally Posted by Merriam Webster
Main Entry: 4second
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Latin secundare, from secundus second, favorable
1 a : to give support or encouragement to : ASSIST b : to support (a fighting person or group) in combat : bring up reinforcements for
2 a : to support or assist in contention or debate b : to endorse (a motion or a nomination) so that debate or voting may begin
3 /si-'känd/ chiefly British : to release (as a military officer) from a regularly assigned position for temporary duty with another unit or organization
- sec·ond·er noun
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

I'd like to come back on this, I've looked up subcontracting, but it's not really what I was looking for.
I found a company (Yacht) that is also active in the UK, and I've found the following description:
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Dear visitor,

Yacht, part of Randstad Holding nv, one of the world's largest staffing solutions providers and listed on the Dutch Stock Exchange, focuses on secondment of highly educated people and offers staffing solutions to its customers.

Following a recent strategic review of Group Operations, the Yacht activities in the UK have been integrated in the Randstad brand as of July 2004.
Secondment it is (definition 2).

So Yacht is for one active in the UK, but can you name other companies in the UK, or any other foreign country, that provide this service? Also to foreign people .
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

Sounds like upmarket temping to me, I know that Randstad is a temp agency. There are loads over here, you need to find the right type to deal with you though if you want something specialised. The general ones might have something suitable for you, but they tend to cover lower paid, lower skilled stuff mostly.

Try googling for employment agencies, or temporary work.
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

I work in that position at the moment, Im paid by my company but work for my client. I am considered a 'contractor' since I work at my client doing a job that my company has been contracted to do.

If you worked for a company and moved to a sister company or another department for a set period of time, this would be considered a 'secondment'.
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

Secondment is where Person A is employed by Company B, who goes on Secondment to Company C, but still remains employed and paid by Company B.

Outsourcing is where Person A is employed by Company B, who's job and/or department is outsourced to Company C, which then sees Person A employed and paid by Company C, but still doing the same job at Company B.

So, Structural, I'd say the word you are looking for is "Outsourcing" "The department is being outsourced". It's a fancy way of saying sub-contracting I suppose.

There are any number of companies around who do this, typically (at least here in the UK) Government departments are outsourced to companies who claim they can make the same staff do the same job, more quickly and more cheaply. (Been there done that.). It's bollocks.

Your looking at companies like: EDS, Capita, Paymaster, Amey Datel
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Re: "Detachment"... what's the word for it?

Working for an umbrella company might be what you mean.

Random link from google: http://www.prosperity4.com/umbrella-company.asp
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