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17 Apr 2005, 02:34
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Yahwe Explains .... Money
Money
Cash
Being rich
Yet I ask you; what do those phrases mean? I shall apologise immediately now if i am percieved as a racist. I am going to suggest that America has a different view of wealth from the rest of the world. In my defence i would say that this is not racial. it is cultural. americans, be they black, white, asian, pink or purple, are fed with this stuff. The fiction exists in all countries. its just that in america money 'rules' when other nations try to supress it.
there is a basic question to ask
now some, some are addicted to money. nothing else. they sleep happier. their food tastes better. they look healthier. if they
have money.
I would like to suggest that that is wrong. that those who feel that way are addicts.
to those of us who are not addicted. i ask questions. what do you do? why do you do it?
always the answer is the same. 'money'.
money. what is it? well to be honest money is a lie. no country, not even america, can afford to pay out if you cash in those notes you all carry and use. in your day to day life you pass between you notes. they are worthless. they are promises on paper.
your belief gives them meaning.
all i seek in posting about money, is to remind you of something you know. value. value is eternal. we know it. in our bones. i am proud of this truth. you all know value. but
there is danger. value is true. money is a lie. if you confuse money and value you will make a mistake. not anything to be ashamed of. but a fundamental mistake none the less.
there is no value in having lots of notes. no matter how many you collect. no more value. value is eternal. it exists within money. but the distinction is important.
it is far worse to be without value. than it is to be without money.
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17 Apr 2005, 03:18
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
twat
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17 Apr 2005, 05:12
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Black Power MotherF*ckas!
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Yahwe
i am percieved as a racist.
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I agree.
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17 Apr 2005, 05:15
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Yahwe
if i am percieved as a racist
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i think you can be percieved as many things, but i dont believe racist is one of them.
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17 Apr 2005, 05:23
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Black Power MotherF*ckas!
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Phil^
i think you can be percieved racist
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yep. told ya.
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17 Apr 2005, 05:27
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Chika
yep. I have nothing better to do then misquote others.
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of course.
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17 Apr 2005, 05:33
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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of course.
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Its true. Weekend work blows!!!!!!!
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17 Apr 2005, 08:52
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
Well obviously. Have I missed some revolutionary point here?
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17 Apr 2005, 11:00
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
I think he's pointing out that the money only has the value we attribute to it, whereas other things have an actual intrisic worth; they can be used for something other than trading. In effect, we could replace all the money in the world with pokemon cards or pogs and the world would still work. However, we can't replace all the oil in the world with tea. That would be stupid, and it wouldn't be able to fulfil the role that oil plays in our society, because of it's physical values. If an iPod costs £300 now, and in two years it will cost £150, its monetary value has gone down, but it's usage has stayed the same.
Oh, and something about people who do not see money as a means but as an end and that's bad, m'kay.
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17 Apr 2005, 11:09
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Who?
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Chika
I agree.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Chika again.
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17 Apr 2005, 13:23
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
I live in America, and the way I see it, it depends on what area of the place you live in.
In Florida, it's so superficial it hurts. It's all about what car you drive, what clothes you wear and what fancy shopping bags you can carry round with you in the maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall.
Ah, and for heavens sake women, the fact you have a Louis Vuitton handbag doesn't suddenly mean you're high-class, it just means your credit card debt is that much bigger.
In other places, no-one gives a fk, which means the people aren't as stuck-up and up their own arse, they are more polite, their driving is better and it's just a nicer place to be.
If we had the choice, we'd be somewhere else, but we know we wouldn't want to be in Florida.
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17 Apr 2005, 13:32
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
Money is just another form of rationing.
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17 Apr 2005, 13:41
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
Money does not maketh man!
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17 Apr 2005, 14:32
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomkat
Money does not maketh man!
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Well, you had to pay to get your vagina into a penis so...
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17 Apr 2005, 14:40
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by KaneED
Well, you had to pay to get your vagina into a penis so...
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The sex I have doesn't work like that, am I doing it wrong?
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17 Apr 2005, 14:52
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Tomkat
Money does not maketh man!
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But the suit that the money buys does.
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17 Apr 2005, 19:33
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by big_horn
yahwe it may well be cultural but it is also racist. .
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It's racist to point out cultural differences?
wow
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17 Apr 2005, 19:39
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
Race causes culture man. Obviously it gets slightly confusing once you get beyond one race in a particular location. I say confusing, I mean meaningless.
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17 Apr 2005, 20:14
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
Racism implies race (or barring that; a fairly homogenous, easily identifiable group of people). Prejudice doesn't..
Racism is a specialization of Prejudice.
Why use the more specialized word when it doesn't fit?
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17 Apr 2005, 20:49
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
As yahwe has never in his life had to worry about finances or money, I think it's amusing that people are even attempting to discuss the value of it with him. He has a rather limited view on the subject.
(no offence of course to you yahwe, but it's true)
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17 Apr 2005, 21:05
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Yahwe
Money
Cash
Being rich
Yet I ask you; what do those phrases mean?
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To be lodged in a nice large house on the beach, listen to the waves crash and feel the warm breeze on your face. To not have to get up and go to some lousy job that you're always worring about loosing, but to relax and read a good book on your porch overlooking your expansive vinyards on a soft warm evening. To have your spacious refigerator filled without ever having to stand in some dirty crowded check out line at the supermarket. To travel through secluded towns in distant places in your spare time and experience the exotic firsthand. To have a great relationship with your loved ones because you never have to fight about money. To just get up on a whim and ride down the coast on a full moon night in lushious black leather seats in an open roofed car. That is wealth, that is money, that is value.
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17 Apr 2005, 21:11
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by Flavius
can I have a bit of what you're smoking?
do you really think anyone in this whole world has what you've just described, without one of the following:
* rich parents
* rich grandparents
* rich husband/wife
* had sex for money
edit: while having that is all good, getting there is what gives value to those things.
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I don't know who has that, but it sure would be nice.
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17 Apr 2005, 21:15
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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money is not a synonym of happiness, nor of wealth
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It would be for me
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17 Apr 2005, 21:18
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
My life has definitely become easier in the past 18 months or so since I've started to have far more disposable income.
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17 Apr 2005, 21:19
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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Originally Posted by P Diddy
mo' money, mo' problems
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Word. Some problems I can live with though.
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17 Apr 2005, 21:55
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
I think positing America vs the rest of the world is a bit difficult to sustain. Different cultures (and individuals within that culture) wll have drastically different views on a subject. Even if we were to generalise on the level of nations I still don't see a stark distinction between the US and the rest. I'm told that the Chinese culture (if you can say such a thing without talking utter rubbish) is very money orientated for instance.
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17 Apr 2005, 21:57
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
I know a Burmese man whose name is Dr Oo.
True story.
Probably one which I've told before, as well.
And no, he doesn't travel around in a tardis.
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17 Apr 2005, 22:26
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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i would say that, that makes such a claim a reasonable deduction but nonetheless it is still racist.
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No it isn't. Discrimination isn't discrimination against.
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17 Apr 2005, 22:34
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
So Jews might have loads of money but no value, is that what you mean?
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17 Apr 2005, 22:34
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
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racism doesn't have to involve being "against" something, just implying the difference between people is due to their race
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The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
That's a pretty decent pair of definitions.
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17 Apr 2005, 23:16
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Re: Yahwe Explains .... Money
I'm American and I preach that money is GOD in his best form.
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