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The General8 · 27 Jun 2005, 18:35

Well

This is it! im off to Australia tommrow!........bloody scary!

No more chavs, no more constant rain followed by intense followed by rain followed by heat followed by rain, at least, not in the SAME DAY!

Wish my luck as i endure the 24-30 hour flight to Oz with the nice stopoff in singapore(airport) on the way.

Cya soon folks, miss you jj <3

Deepflow · 27 Jun 2005, 19:12

have fun...

i would be more positive, but the thread title put me off being nice to you..

Nusselt · 27 Jun 2005, 19:19

erm ill wish you well but australia isn't the paradise you think it is, there are chavs there are chavs everywhere they only change names to confuse you

hello summers that are so fcking hot your brain feels like its melting etc

but this isn't the time

cheerio! cheerio!

Marilyn Manson · 27 Jun 2005, 19:21

Ta ta.

pablissimo · 27 Jun 2005, 19:22

Chazwazzers!

Deepflow · 27 Jun 2005, 19:23

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Originally Posted by pablissimo

Chazwazzers!

bullfrogs!

funnily enough, thats my brothers nickname since that episode. Which is kind of cool.

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JammyJim · 27 Jun 2005, 19:36

<3

you'll be back.
they always come back.

noone can stay away from GD for too long.

dda · 27 Jun 2005, 21:33

Just when you think you are out, they will pull you back in again.

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Jun 2005, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Deepflow

bullfrogs!

funnily enough, thats my brothers nickname since that episode. Which is kind of cool.

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That's my current MSN name.

The full line is, anyway.

djbass · 2 Jul 2005, 11:55

Welcome to my backyard!

We'll have you Aussified in a jiffy, and while where you're going isn't actually that hot, your poor UK pale as a ghost complexion may take a beating

Next time I'm in Adelaide I shall have to look you up for a few beers or something. *

* That is once you establish youself and find your way back onto the internet again.

Embroglio · 2 Jul 2005, 12:03

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Originally Posted by Deepflow

have fun...

i would be more positive, but the thread title put me off being nice to you..

Leshy · 2 Jul 2005, 12:26

Have a good time!

How long are you staying in Australia?

Yahwe · 2 Jul 2005, 14:56

he's emmigrating.

djbass · 2 Jul 2005, 15:10

He's come to the land down under,
You better run, you better take cover!

Marilyn Manson · 2 Jul 2005, 15:44

Welcome to Australia. Land of boiling heat and racism.

djbass · 2 Jul 2005, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

Welcome to Australia. Land of boiling heat and racism.

Of course! So tell me, do you go around hugging all the chavs then?

Phang · 2 Jul 2005, 15:52

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Originally Posted by djbass

Of course! So tell me, do you go around hugging all the chavs then?

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN?

djbass · 2 Jul 2005, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Phang

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN?

I'm implying our 'indigenous' population are the direct equivelent of your chavs, so if we're racist he must love the chavs.

Marilyn Manson · 2 Jul 2005, 16:02

Implying? 'White Australia' policy, anyone? Kindnap Aboriginie kids and forcibly send them away from their families, anyone?

Perhaps if you'd integrated the Aboriginies into your society instead of excluding them, barbarising them, and killing them, then they'd be in a better social position than that which they currently find themselves in.

djbass · 2 Jul 2005, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

Implying? 'White Australia' policy, anyone? Kindnap Aboriginie kids and forcibly send them away from their families, anyone?

Perhaps if you'd integrated the Aboriginies into your society instead of excluding them, barbarising them, and killing them, then they'd be in a better social position than that which they currently find themselves in.

Right... and like England hasn't had it's share of dark history

..don't even get me started on how you've soddemised North Ireland, it might as well be called 'Little Britain'.

As for your second point, there in lays the problem... financially they probably get more money than most middle income families, but they choose quite deliberately not to do anything good with it. They would rather sit naked around camp fires drinking piss than integrate themselves with modern society.

Marilyn Manson · 2 Jul 2005, 16:12

Oh, and encouraging productive immigration from an early date instead of beating the shit out of the Chinese because they happened to work better than you might have been good as well.

Marilyn Manson · 2 Jul 2005, 16:20

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Originally Posted by djbass

Right... and like England hasn't had it's share of dark history

Well, I can't think of a single place in the western world where racism and general folly was given such a strong official sanction until recently, save the Deep South. I don't know why then the popular perception of the population of the Deep South is that of the incestuous, murderous, backwards hick, and that of Australia is of the lovable bushwacker, but there you go.

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Originally Posted by djbass

They would rather sit naked around camp fires drinking piss than integrate themselves with modern society.

I can't imagine any sane person wanting to do that, although considering the uphill struggle they face, not to mention the hatred, and prejudice there is for the Aboriginies, (Which your post neatly exemplifies.) I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they chose to shrug their shoulders to some extent and turn away.

djbass · 2 Jul 2005, 16:21

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Originally Posted by Nantoz

The chavs are easily stigmatised, but not by any means a race.
Bad line! bad explanation! bad boy!

Not really, because his argument is flawed. They are hated for many reasons but being black isn't one of them. Descrimination maybe, racism though frankly has nothing to do with it. That would then put it into direct comparison.

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Jul 2005, 16:28

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Originally Posted by djbass

They are hated for many reasons but being black isn't one of them. Descrimination maybe, racism though frankly has nothing to do with it.

They're a different race, they're discriminated purely as a result of their race.

THAT'S NOT RACISM AT ALL!

It's wearing a mask! It's old Beardy McGregor who owns the mine!

Marilyn Manson · 2 Jul 2005, 16:32

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Originally Posted by djbass

They are hated for many reasons but being black isn't one of them.

You are either being incredibly naive or incredibly dishonest. Of course it's a combination of factors (Social groups at the bottom of the pile are always looked down on by the other groups, that's natural to any society I can think of.) but to say that a good deal of the opposition they face, and have faced, doesn't also spring from simple racism is idiotic.

The whole basis for white perception of the Aboriginies was explicitly racist for the best part of 150-170 years. You don't change that overnight.

djbass · 2 Jul 2005, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

I can't imagine any sane person wanting to do that, although considering the uphill struggle they face, not to mention the hatred, and prejudice there is for the Aboriginies, (Which your post neatly exemplifies.) I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they chose to shrug their shoulders to some extent and turn away.

That's where your wrong

If you're going to defend a race at least learn something about their culture.

Living in the bush, making campfires, beating their women, hunting kangaroo etc is the same thing they have been doing since even before white man came to Australia. Maybe they were late in the evolutionary scale or maybe our presence has stunted their growth as a society, whatever the reason the fact still stands that this is what comes natural to them and this is the lifestyle they choose willingly.

The government goes as far as to give them their own branch of legislative power, who assigns them free housing, that they choose to knock the roofs off, break all the windows, and chop up the door for firewood to stock up the campfire they have going in the loungeroom.

They pay for the childrens educations, in their own school, run completely by Aboriginees. Most schools of which have about a 60% attendance rate. They give them large quantities of soverign land to do whatever the hell they choose, most end up discarding their housing and simply living outside, discarding rubbish all over the place as they see fit.

Now it was white man that introduced them to the evils of alcohol and smoking this is true, but christ in the many years of being free, their own people with their own power they still choose to lay their lives to waste, drunk, and with quite serious health problems.

I think it can best be described as 'When advanced technology & culture meets primeval man'.

Dante Hicks · 2 Jul 2005, 16:48

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Originally Posted by djbass

They give them large quantities of soverign land.

I think it's the fact you can say things like "the government give aborignies large quantities of land" with a straight face is what makes it all so amusing.

Yahwe · 2 Jul 2005, 17:31

surely mm didn't just mean the example of the aborigenees to say australia was a racist nation?

Phang · 2 Jul 2005, 17:35

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Originally Posted by djbass

That's where your wrong

If you're going to defend a race at least learn something about their culture.

Living in the bush, making campfires, beating their women, hunting kangaroo etc is the same thing they have been doing since even before white man came to Australia. Maybe they were late in the evolutionary scale or maybe our presence has stunted their growth as a society, whatever the reason the fact still stands that this is what comes natural to them and this is the lifestyle they choose willingly.

The government goes as far as to give them their own branch of legislative power, who assigns them free housing, that they choose to knock the roofs off, break all the windows, and chop up the door for firewood to stock up the campfire they have going in the loungeroom.

They pay for the childrens educations, in their own school, run completely by Aboriginees. Most schools of which have about a 60% attendance rate. They give them large quantities of soverign land to do whatever the hell they choose, most end up discarding their housing and simply living outside, discarding rubbish all over the place as they see fit.

Now it was white man that introduced them to the evils of alcohol and smoking this is true, but christ in the many years of being free, their own people with their own power they still choose to lay their lives to waste, drunk, and with quite serious health problems.

I think it can best be described as 'When advanced technology & culture meets primeval man'.

you appall me.

Deepflow · 2 Jul 2005, 20:39

whats so bad about wanting to live outside?

Personally i wouldn't want to, but hey, as a great man once said:

"the world dont turn to the beat of just one drum
what might be right for you, may not be right for some"