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Unread 7 Jul 2005, 12:00   #51
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Re: London is being bombed

I fail to see how this would be related to the G8 summit anyway.

People generally protest to show they disagree with politics, they don't go around blowing their fellow citizens up. And if you wanted to get anything done from the G8, bombing London wouldn't be the best way to go about it.
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Re: London is being bombed

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And obviously the only kind of terrorists that exist are Islamic terrorists.

the only ones who've taken up with london are the IRA (and they're more bigbastard bombs with coded warnings) the islamists and the a racist homophobe who went a bit nuts a few years ago.

I think its fairly obvious it is islamist.
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And obviously the only kind of terrorists that exist are Islamic terrorists.
They're the only ones worth speaking of in this sort of context.
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Re: London is being bombed

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I fail to see how this would be related to the G8 summit anyway.

People generally protest to show they disagree with politics, they don't go around blowing their fellow citizens up. And if you wanted to get anything done from the G8, bombing London wouldn't be the best way to go about it.
However, it's probably timed for the first day of the G8 summit.
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Re: London is being bombed

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I fail to see how this would be related to the G8 summit anyway.

People generally protest to show they disagree with politics, they don't go around blowing their fellow citizens up. And if you wanted to get anything done from the G8, bombing London wouldn't be the best way to go about it.
It depends on your definition of being related to G8. yes its probally unlikly that its a direct link to the protestors but I would say its highly unlikly that theres no connection whatsoever. Its clearly been timed to coincide with the G8 summit to get their message over and to take advantage of the fact that security focus will be somewhat off London
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Unread 7 Jul 2005, 12:06   #56
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Re: London is being bombed

www.guardian.co.uk has better updates
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Re: London is being bombed

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I fail to see how this would be related to the G8 summit anyway.

People generally protest to show they disagree with politics, they don't go around blowing their fellow citizens up. And if you wanted to get anything done from the G8, bombing London wouldn't be the best way to go about it.
it will be the publicity of having a bunch of global leaders in the country at the time, and disrupting an important meeting. remember most of these terrorist incidents are just as much about media exposure as the damage they will cause. It's not intended to be a protest against the g8, just taking advantage of it.
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www.guardian.co.uk has better updates
i'll have to take your word for that since it doesnt load.
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Re: London is being bombed

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Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Uruba are claiming.
did you spill something on your keyboard as you typed that ?


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Anyone know anything about them?
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Re: London is being bombed

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They are called "AQ in Europe" apparently.

All stand back in amazement at my complete ignorance of jihadi terorist groups.
well they all sound the same. lots of As and Qs.
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However, it's probably timed for the first day of the G8 summit.
Yes, I should have worded that better. The date of this attack is most likely related to the G8 summit, as it would send a clear message to the world leaders being in the country.

What I meant was that this attack is probably not motivated by the topics the G8 had on their agenda for this summit, or carried out by the protesting groups.
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Re: London is being bombed

BBC are also saying that they (AQ in europe) are claiming responsibility
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Re: London is being bombed

How far is the distance between the furthest blasts?
thav made it seem like it was quite a distance....
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Re: London is being bombed

confirmed 20 ppl died so far
Hope there is no more.
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Re: London is being bombed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm#

Has a map showing the explosions
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Re: London is being bombed

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I suspect Bush will leave the country before he decides to make any remarks about how this is an example of why we should keep waging war on arabic countries, I mean err, terrorists.
Is he not already on his way to Uk to show his support?

I suggest we encourage him to use our transport
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Re: London is being bombed

I hope that it doesn't get any higher but it seems an awful small number of casualties for the amount of effort that must have gone into these attacks.

I suppose we can be thankful that these ****ers decided to put on a show rather than kill as many people as possible.
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Re: London is being bombed

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Yes, I should have worded that better. The date of this attack is most likely related to the G8 summit, as it would send a clear message to the world leaders being in the country.

What I meant was that this attack is probably not motivated by the topics the G8 had on their agenda for this summit, or carried out by the protesting groups.
I totally agree. I was fairly sure that that was what you meant, but not certain.


My dad's fine, so I'm pretty relieved right now.
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Re: London is being bombed

The fact these explosions are smaller than normal could mean they're not from the usual sources. The people behind Bali, Madrid, etc when for mass loss of life. Although we can estimate at about 20 people dead so far, it's not on the same scale.

As t&f said some European Islamicist group are claiming. But during these events quite a lot of people jump at the chance of claiming.

The BBC said they'd found a Islamicist website that were claiming, the same group as t&f mentioned. The BBC are currently translating.
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I just hope that not that many people die, and we get to the bottom of this, terrible terrible events
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Re: London is being bombed

the bbs says two people are dead. thats bad enough, but if thats all it could be a lot worse.
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Re: London is being bombed

I think you'll find a quite a few more than that are dead, especially since I don't like the chances of the people that were on the top level of the bus.
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the BBC cant seem to make up its mind between 6,7 and 8 explosions... anyone know for sure?
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Re: London is being bombed

6 actual explosions still from the sources I have seen, though there are supposedly knock ons because of power surges, crashes and stuff like that. it's all a bit confusing, so leave it for a while until the police make statements.
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Re: London is being bombed

they cant seem to decide if tavistock square has had a bomb go off or not
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Re: London is being bombed

bbc keeps timing out, /rant i don't pay my license fee for the beeb not to be prepared for major loadage.


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and the fact they've unplugged the entire bloody mobile network (probably for security reasons) is really fustrating, you can't contact anyone in transit, how did people cope 20 years ago??!!??
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They have to lock normal users out of the mobile network not only to stop them being used for further attacks but it keeps them clear for the the emergency services to use as they can apparently still access the networks
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Re: London is being bombed

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they cant seem to decide if tavistock square has had a bomb go off or not
well it is right round the corner from Russel Square, so some people are saying it is the same bomb.
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Re: London is being bombed

oh dear oh dear oh dear

i was stoned when i heard about this, my head can't really seem to handle it atm

i was going to say "my gut reaction is to invade iran immediately", but its probably not the time or the place for sick jokes.

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Re: London is being bombed

The emergency services seem to be extremely well organised and sorting out everything without many problems. Although they didn't find the bombs, they have done everything possible and now seem in quite full control of the situation. I'm very impressed, to be honest.
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The emergency services seem to be extremely well organised and sorting out everything without many problems. Although they didn't find the bombs, they have done everything possible and now seem in quite full control of the situation. I'm very impressed, to be honest.
They have had quite a while to prepare for things like this (it was presumed it would happen), and despite British moaning the actual condition of the emergency services in this country is very good. My only thought was whether the proposed shift of fire services/stations/trucks from Central to Suburban London had taken place yet or not (it was discussed a year ot so ago).
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they will say something like that for sure, but it is more likely that they are just religious nutters who like killing for God.
And let's not forget the recent foiled attempt in Paris where they found all those bombs on trains.
The French were one of the most vocal anti-Iraq war voices around.
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Re: London is being bombed

well I am a celebrity now. I just got interviewed.
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First war of the worlds now this.
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I hope this doesnt **** up the g8 negotiations. Must feel weird to be a g8 protestor just now. You're getting ready to boo bush and co, then you find out London's been attacked, and the World Leaders are standing united behind Blair. In a morbid, horrible way, this attack takes a hell of a lot of pressure off the leaders on certain issues.
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Say hello to ID cards, this is the clincher for that little piece of legislation.
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My dad works just off Regents Street and would have got the Picadilly line this morning. He's not dead or anything though. He's a policeman too so he might be caught up in it but he's probably just training the newbie policemen and stuff.

My sister was going to go to a Blue concert tonight but she clearly can't go to that now.

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It hasn't been released on the news yet but suicide bomber was shot outside Canary Wharf.

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im not sure this will neccesarily be good for anti terror legislation. I at least feel a little bit relieved, and possibly safer. It has been building up for so long and there really is nothing you can do about it, it feels nasty to say it, but at least we have had "our turn" and it wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been.

That is of course assuming that this is "it"
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Unread 7 Jul 2005, 14:30   #98
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Re: London is being bombed

Where did you hear that Minty?
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Unread 7 Jul 2005, 14:34   #99
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Re: London is being bombed

Well, I'm still trying to get an idea of casualty figures. The BBS main story has said "two dead" for hours, despite in a seperate story reporting four dead at Aldgate East (I think).

I spoke to my wife (who works at St Thomas' Hospital) and she had been told there was over twenty dead according to the medical grapevine. It seems strange that in one of the most densely populated areas of the world, where there at least a dozen major media outlets, and literally hundreds of CCTV camera etcs that information is this poor.
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Re: London is being bombed

Well I guess thats all opposition to ID cards and similar measures effectively eliminated then.
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