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30 Nov 2006, 23:06
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KiLLa
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
6 1 FO ND ToF XvX LCH vs eX
i hate exil too...but thats kinda pitiful
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30 Nov 2006, 23:08
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
ToF are not hitting eXilition, and xVx sent quite some fleets at FO the last 3 days, so I don't know how accurate that one is either...
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30 Nov 2006, 23:09
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Pedantic hypocrite
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Back and to the left
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Digiscent
6 1 FO ND ToF XvX LCH vs eX
i hate exil too...but thats kinda pitiful
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Yeah, except that's not actually the block. There are alliances that are NAPed to EXilition. There are alliances hitting New Dawn that aren't EXilition.
edit: qebab is probably in a much better position than me to tell you this.
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30 Nov 2006, 23:15
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
In all honesty, the logistics in effectively managing a lot of people to hit planets that are quickly become worse targets (with values such that teamups of 3-4 people are needed to take it), means that this is far from the odds that some people seem to think there are. I'd call it quite a close call actually.
But I bet you guys didn't see eXilition keeping onto their lead in the alliance rankings yet?
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30 Nov 2006, 23:24
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
What people aren't factoring in, is the reason there are so many alliances hitting, is simply because there is limited time to knock eX off the top.
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1 Dec 2006, 00:02
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Digiscent
6 1 FO ND ToF XvX LCH vs eX
i hate exil too...but thats kinda pitiful
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Aren't you the one who was talking about the gayness of the top 5? and now you complain when they decide to do something? make up your mind.
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1 Dec 2006, 00:41
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Bragpack™
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
It's not a close call qebab and you know it.
About those alliances (FO ND ToF XvX LCH), we have no current NAPs with ANY of these. Infact, all but ToF (well, only in galraids) target us.
Again, understandable like lokken said. But please don't deny it, tyvm
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1 Dec 2006, 00:44
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 6,339
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Stoom
It's not a close call qebab and you know it.
About those alliances (FO ND ToF XvX LCH), we have no current NAPs with ANY of these. Infact, all target us.
Again, understandable like lokken said. But please don't deny it, tyvm
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The fact there is limited time is precisely what makes it a close call.
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1 Dec 2006, 00:49
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Bragpack™
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by lokken
The fact there is limited time is precisely what makes it a close call.
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If you put it like that, I agree. But that's not how qebab said it.
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1 Dec 2006, 00:50
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Stoom
It's not a close call qebab and you know it.
About those alliances (FO ND ToF XvX LCH), we have no current NAPs with ANY of these. Infact, all but ToF (well, only in galraids) target us.
Again, understandable like lokken said. But please don't deny it, tyvm
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I never said you had naps with any of those?
Facts are; ND/FO are planetpicking you, and maybe LCH, I'm not sure but they have attacked with ND most of the round.
xVx are maybe hitting you, but in that case not so well, considering they've thrown several fleets at us every night since we opened hostilities with eXilition.
And, I'm glad to see that you understand.
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1 Dec 2006, 01:08
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
seriously guys forget about your selfish motives with your alliances and such shit, just escort and donate fleet/roids me to the top yo
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1 Dec 2006, 01:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austria
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Digiscent
6 1 FO ND ToF XvX LCH vs eX
i hate exil too...but thats kinda pitiful
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you shouldnt listen too much to a biased gc. not too much truth there apart from ND and FO having teamed up.
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1 Dec 2006, 01:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austria
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by lokken
What people aren't factoring in, is the reason there are so many alliances hitting, is simply because there is limited time to knock eX off the top.
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I was going to say that
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1 Dec 2006, 01:38
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: uk
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
we can maybe make this round history if all the universe teamed up on exil....... i wold love to see it but it wold never happen
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1 Dec 2006, 02:56
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Drunken Penguin
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by add100
we can maybe make this round history if all the universe teamed up on exil....... i wold love to see it but it wold never happen
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yea after most alliances havent had the balls to beat exi and now 2 allys kick their members to merge to create something, yes its a nice thingie to beat exi but letting other peeps down (which u recruited btw) then i would rather say kill fo instead of exi !!!
but then no one cares about normal members/players...
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1 Dec 2006, 02:59
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 6,339
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Stoom
If you put it like that, I agree. But that's not how qebab said it.
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Oh qebab didn't put it like that. It didn't stop you denying it was a close call, even though you now concede it could well be
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1 Dec 2006, 03:39
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snadwich fetcher
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: ONE LOVE
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Oh please stoom.
I'm not going to shy away from giving credit to you - your alliance is quite good and your planet value/average roid count is a testament to that.
But when you start making things up, completely and totally based in fiction, and pushing them off as facts, then you start to cut into that credibility you build up by being good at this game.
Trying to make the universe feel sorry for you isn't going to cut it.
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1 Dec 2006, 07:16
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Well, exilition pr squad with divide and conquer attempts. Piss poor one's though, considering the circumstances. Guys, what about the whining, you won r13/r15/r18 without, can't you survive without it the last week of this round?
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1 Dec 2006, 08:02
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Pro. Elbow Licker
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoom
It's not a close call qebab and you know it.
About those alliances (FO ND ToF XvX LCH), we have no current NAPs with ANY of these. Infact, all but ToF (well, only in galraids) target us.
Again, understandable like lokken said. But please don't deny it, tyvm
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Sending 5 fleets isn't targetting
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1 Dec 2006, 09:20
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Bragpack™
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 815
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Sigh, I'm sorry, it wasn't ment to be a whine post, I was trying to point out what is happening.
I don't need anyone to feel sorry for us Barrow, we got ourselves into the position we are in now. No hard feelings!
As for cura, die.
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1 Dec 2006, 11:47
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Jack In The Box
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Location: Where you live
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
While Faggot Orgy got targeted by us they came here whining about it. And now Stoom ain't allowed to say that 3 alliances are planet-targeting us and are having a NAP with ToF? Face it, it's pathetic. But still I can't wait for this outcome because what's going to happen at the ceremony? Are Faggot Orgy going to lay down for ND and let them win? Oh boy I wanna see how ND HCs are going to "celebrate" that win. Or will FO butt-fukc ND and take the win? How are those HCs going to "celebrate" the win of a round where they not only merged to win but also broke an agreement? Besides, which HCs are going to talk during the ceremony? Questions over questions.
Oh and @Heartless: Geh aus dem Wind. Deine Fahne dreht sich echt jeden Tag in eine andere Richtung. Es ist einfach nur peinlich.
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1 Dec 2006, 11:54
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Quote:
Originally Posted by -=Yggdra=-
Oh and @Heartless: Geh aus dem Wind. Deine Fahne dreht sich echt jeden Tag in eine andere Richtung. Es ist einfach nur peinlich.
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I'm going to make an attempt to translate that with my highschool german.
"Your flag is blowing in a different direction every day. It's simply embarrassing."
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Originally Posted by -=Yggdra=-
Are Faggot Orgy going to lay down for ND and let them win? Oh boy I wanna see how ND HCs are going to "celebrate" that win. Or will FO butt-fukc ND and take the win? How are those HCs going to "celebrate" the win of a round where they not only merged to win but also broke an agreement? Besides, which HCs are going to talk during the ceremony? Questions over questions.
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If you didn't notice yet, ND are ahead of us, so we wouldn't have to "lay down and let them win". I imagine ND would celebrate their win in memory of h3ll, and that will definately be spoken of in the winning ceremony regardless if FO or ND wins.
And FO has no intentions of changing our political stance in this round. If we should end up as the winning alliance, I'm pretty certain Shoshuro would speak in the ceremony, and I would pop in and mention Rikard so he maintains his "being-mentioned-without-actually-doing-anything-streak".
Are those satisfying answers?
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1 Dec 2006, 12:00
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Jack In The Box
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Location: Where you live
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by qebab
If you didn't notice yet, ND are ahead of us, so we wouldn't have to "lay down and let them win". I imagine ND would celebrate their win in memory of h3ll, and that will definately be spoken of in the winning ceremony regardless if FO or ND wins.
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And if YOU haven't noticed yet that ND have little to no top50 value planets left and only a few top100 after they suicided so goddamn often during the last weeks? While Faggot Orgy clearly has alot more. Defenitly a big advantage when it comes to going for rank 1.
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1 Dec 2006, 12:02
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Quote:
Originally Posted by -=Yggdra=-
Oh and @Heartless: Geh aus dem Wind. Deine Fahne dreht sich echt jeden Tag in eine andere Richtung. Es ist einfach nur peinlich.
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What flag? I am a neutral observer, advocating common sense in any possible case. If you can come up with better tactics for nd/fo/the rest of the universe to stop eXilition at this point feel free to point them out.
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1 Dec 2006, 12:04
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Ahh, so you're saying we should go hit them to get shitloads of xp and pass them while eXilition sit on your roids? Or that we have or ND have any interest in changing the current politics of the round? I don't see how it would benefit either of us to switch targetting. eXilition would bounce right up in a matter of days, and that means neither of us has a chance of winning.
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1 Dec 2006, 12:09
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Jack In The Box
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Location: Where you live
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by qebab
Ahh, so you're saying we should go hit them to get shitloads of xp and pass them while eXilition sit on your roids? Or that we have or ND have any interest in changing the current politics of the round? I don't see how it would benefit either of us to switch targetting. eXilition would bounce right up in a matter of days, and that means neither of us has a chance of winning.
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I am just saying that Faggot Orgy has a better chance to win this round than ND and that I can't wait to see if you guys are going to lay down for ND or not
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1 Dec 2006, 12:10
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by -=Yggdra=-
I am just saying that Faggot Orgy has a better chance to win this round than ND and that I can't wait to see if you guys are going to lay down for ND or not
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You clearly don't know the terms of our political dealings.
Edit: I have been most civil to you and your posters, and I would appreciate at least a small level of courtesy in return. "Faggot Orgy" sure sounds fun once, or maybe even twice, but not once or twice in every post.
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1 Dec 2006, 12:13
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 6,339
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by -=Yggdra=-
While Faggot Orgy got targeted by us they came here whining about it. And now Stoom ain't allowed to say that 3 alliances are planet-targeting us and are having a NAP with ToF? Face it, it's pathetic.
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Well, he's certainly allowed to point it out. But as I've said and he's agreed it's not pathetic, simply because we all have limited time here. It's a perfectly legitimate action.
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But still I can't wait for this outcome because what's going to happen at the ceremony? Are Faggot Orgy going to lay down for ND and let them win? Oh boy I wanna see how ND HCs are going to "celebrate" that win Or will FO butt-fukc ND and take the win? How are those HCs going to "celebrate" the win of a round where they not only merged to win but also broke an agreement?
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First of all divide and conquer blah blah blah. Fact is if we do anything but target you, neither of us can win, so this is how it's going to be for the next 8 days. If you're upset, you're welcome to delete your planet and make our life easier. How would we celebrate if we won? Barrow would probably dance around the room with his willy hanging out, CleaningMuppet will bathe in mashed potatoes and I'll buy crab a pint of ale. But thanks for your concern none the less.
I'm not here to defend FO, but as ND is my business, I'll point out that we didn't break any agreements. Mac agreed the date of termination, he should have checked it properly - the fact is he made an error and we profited from our own ****up. If you are annoyed about not getting your 72 hours, go speak to your HC - it's their fault.
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If it's ND HC, it'll be NewDawn's. We haven't merged with any tags oh wait you have.
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English only FFS. "Faggot Orgy" is trolling - do it again you're banned.
Even so, why the hate and the anger dude. My suggestion is sleep and some valium.
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1 Dec 2006, 12:14
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Jack In The Box
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Location: Where you live
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by qebab
You clearly don't know the terms of our political dealings.
Edit: I have been most civil to you and your posters, and I would appreciate at least a small level of courtesy in return. "Faggot Orgy" sure sounds fun once, or maybe even twice, but not once or twice in every post.
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Oh I know that ND made a proposal to drop their NAP within 72h (while they decided that 48h is enough ) if you lay down. They did drop the NAP with us, are now attacking with you so I can assume like the rest of the universe that ain't attacking with you g....oh wait. No rest of the universe left, my bad.
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Inflate My Ego
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Hengelo, The Netherlands
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by add100
we can maybe make this round history if all the universe teamed up on exil.......
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You're sounding like Forest in his old days.
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1 Dec 2006, 15:08
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: IRC
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Revolt ftw
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1 Dec 2006, 15:14
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Join Date: May 2005
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
it is funny to see how after laying low all round, exi come out and try to sort this thing out on AD, by suggesting that one side is better than the other one, and should not let them win (FO vs ND).
is the mighty exi warmachine finally starting to doubt their win? they be worried now?
it was the we-dont-whine-but-we-fight attitude u guys are proud of. dont throw it all the good reputation uve got over the rounds away with whiny AD posts.
you made your bed, now lay in it.
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1 Dec 2006, 15:26
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Drink is Good
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
i see no reason to doubt the almighty warmachine, i do agree about the whining though, even after all these years some people never learn, THERE IS NO SYMPATHY TO BE FOUND ON AD*
*only love <3<3<3
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1 Dec 2006, 15:55
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by voodoo
it is funny to see how after laying low all round, exi come out and try to sort this thing out on AD, by suggesting that one side is better than the other one, and should not let them win (FO vs ND).
is the mighty exi warmachine finally starting to doubt their win? they be worried now?
it was the we-dont-whine-but-we-fight attitude u guys are proud of. dont throw it all the good reputation uve got over the rounds away with whiny AD posts.
you made your bed, now lay in it.
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As far as i see, exilition has not started a single thread to whine about them getting targetted. Plus, it's not the first time exilition has posted in threads to counter posts of other alliances regarding eX.
'Warfare is based on deception'. FO and ND will try to convince the universe that everybody and their dog should target eX. eX will try to convince the universe that they are already fighting a 4 vs 1 war and that although understandable, is a bit pathetic.
But in the end nothing said on AD will matter, because it's behind the curtains where either eX or FO or ND will finally win the round. And eX have the better cards there imo.
Plus, as soon as they stop being such juicy targets, all small alliances will have little or no incentive to join up and hit such massive value planets with so few roids, and eX will have again room to breathe.
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Gio2k
As far as i see, exilition has not started a single thread to whine about them getting targetted.
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Just because they didn't start a thread, doesn't mean they haven't started a discussion.
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No but it's somewhat rich from a #1 rank with a lead.
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'Warfare is based on deception'. FO and ND will try to convince the universe that everybody and their dog should target eX. eX will try to convince the universe that they are already fighting a 4 vs 1 war and that although understandable, is a bit pathetic.
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The argument for FO and ND is simple - you can choose the obvious result or a less than obvious one and for the first time - see exilition defeated. Which would be nice, I guess.
If we were cheating to win that would be pathetic. A merger might be pathetic for them - but they've done it. Using diplomacy and cooperation to win can never be pathetic.
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But in the end nothing said on AD will matter, because it's behind the curtains where either eX or FO or ND will finally win the round. And eX have the better cards there imo.
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Plus, as soon as they stop being such juicy targets, all small alliances will have little or no incentive to join up and hit such massive value planets with so few roids, and eX will have again room to breathe.
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Roiding for profit (resources) has stopped being worthwhile. However XP is instant growth and available immediately. While eX have a slender roid lead over NewDawn, their average is still pretty high, which means they are still pretty attractive as targets.
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1 Dec 2006, 17:48
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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You're sounding like Forest in his old days.
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How dare you be so rude. I am pompey fan and hes a scummer :/
On point though, its nothing like me.
I have never made such an apathic post.
I have always just posted war then done it. I may of not always won, but I sure as hell tried my dambdest to win, and have always created some kind of action and fun.
He has done no such thing.
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1 Dec 2006, 18:37
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tappajahai!
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by lokken
I'm not here to defend FO, but as ND is my business, I'll point out that we didn't break any agreements. Mac agreed the date of termination, he should have checked it properly - the fact is he made an error and we profited from our own ****up. If you are annoyed about not getting your 72 hours, go speak to your HC - it's their fault.
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lol what a punch of horsecrap. When u've a 72h cease fire period, it actually is 72h, not 48. Which date that 72 tick timer starts to tick is irrelevant. You didn't exploit this "mistake" (which btw u had poorly planned forehand) as u call it, u violated it. Everyone involved knows this. How stupid do u actually take ur opponent or any1 outside ND for that matter?
Best of all u actually had the nerve to back it up by "Ok we r trying to win this round for h3ll", like that would be enough justification to break treaties? C'mon now think again! Also I kinda wonder if h3ll would want to c all these events taking place in his name.
ps. welldone so far Newdawn, haven't seen this much salvage being spreaded the whole round
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1 Dec 2006, 18:38
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
who actually said that? about the h3ll thing i mean
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1 Dec 2006, 18:39
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
Wonderful entertainment this. eXi probably deserve 'challenge' at the moment, after they lied to the universe about only playing as a core. And then very slowly added more and more members as though people wouldn't notice.
This victory clearly is not meaningless for them, it is important enough to justify a whine.
*nontheless, another excellent display of capability, whatever the result.
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1 Dec 2006, 18:43
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Canadian to the Core
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Wonderful entertainment this. eXi probably deserve 'challenge' at the moment, after they lied to the universe about only playing as a core.
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A core of 40-45ish players
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And then very slowly added more and more members as though people wouldn't notice.
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Do you want a cookie for not knowing wtf is going on ? ... here
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This victory clearly is not meaningless for them, it is important enough to justify a whine.
*nontheless, another excellent display of capability, whatever the result.
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You should have seen the channels at the start of the round, we WEREN'T playing to win at any point. As our attacks became more and more sucessful, we figured we could put up a hell of a piss off to one or two alliances here and there ... then we grew ... and no one stopped us.
We were a snowball rolling down hill, which is exactly why we're currently in the situation we are now.
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1 Dec 2006, 18:49
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by lizardking
lol what a punch of horsecrap. When u've a 72h cease fire period, it actually is 72h, not 48. Which date that 72 tick timer starts to tick is irrelevant.
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Surely it does matter when that timer starts (or better: started) ticking? When for ND that timer started in Tick 976, for exilition in tick 1000 then of course eX thinks that attacking each other at pt 1048 is a no-no while ND can say that 72 ticks are done. Maybe it was just a timer synchronisation problem there? ;-)
Not knowing what actually happened there, so no justification for anything. Just pointing out a glitch in your logic.
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1 Dec 2006, 19:09
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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lol what a punch of horsecrap. When u've a 72h cease fire period, it actually is 72h, not 48. Which date that 72 tick timer starts to tick is irrelevant. You didn't exploit this "mistake" (which btw u had poorly planned forehand) as u call it, u violated it. Everyone involved knows this. How stupid do u actually take ur opponent or any1 outside ND for that matter?
Best of all u actually had the nerve to back it up by "Ok we r trying to win this round for h3ll", like that would be enough justification to break treaties? C'mon now think again! Also I kinda wonder if h3ll would want to c all these events taking place in his name.
ps. welldone so far Newdawn, haven't seen this much salvage being spreaded the whole round
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Im pissed and sad to read this reply in which (in this case) you use h3ll as an arguement. You are in my eyes Retarded, a fokhead, biash and whateva more by using this as an arguement.
We are ND and yes we want to win this round for h3ll...but we never used his name to rectify any other cause or decisions ND made, so i ask you politely...dont be such a biash by doing so.
Show some respect for the dead ones...
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1 Dec 2006, 19:32
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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he wasn't trying remind you of your obligation as a german to the fourth reich was he?
because FO hate isn't going to support national socialism any better than the anti-semitism did ya big bunch of nazis!
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No he didn't, I think. It's more a problem of people feeling annoyed when you say something that is not suiting their case.
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1 Dec 2006, 20:00
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Im pissed and sad to read this reply in which (in this case) you use h3ll as an arguement. You are in my eyes Retarded, a fokhead, biash and whateva more by using this as an arguement.
We are ND and yes we want to win this round for h3ll...but we never used his name to rectify any other cause or decisions ND made, so i ask you politely...dont be such a biash by doing so.
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he wasn't using h3ll as an argument, a certain ND hc however did, and liz was just as disappointed as you are at that
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1 Dec 2006, 21:34
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Heartless
Surely it does matter when that timer starts (or better: started) ticking? When for ND that timer started in Tick 976, for exilition in tick 1000 then of course eX thinks that attacking each other at pt 1048 is a no-no while ND can say that 72 ticks are done. Maybe it was just a timer synchronisation problem there? ;-)
Not knowing what actually happened there, so no justification for anything. Just pointing out a glitch in your logic.
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Nah his logic is pretty coherent he just hasn't got a full command of the facts.
On saturday night i drafted up the notice (I went to bed early) in the belief that it would be handed in immediately. I wasn't able to be online much Sunday.
ND HC didn't hand it in til 24 hours later. But our HC (stupidly) forgot to edit it. The log between our HC and mac clearly show mac agreeing for the end of the nap on 0000 hours of the 29th - ND HC left that final meeting where notice was served totally under the impression they had given the correct ending date and that the 29th of 0000 was acceptable to eX.
When I read the log a day later, I was rampantly amused to realise that eX had screwed themselves out of 24 hours. In all honesty, if an HC can't check and count 24 hours, to make sure his own alliance isn't screwed over, it's his fault. To be fair ND HC didn't check either, but they got lucky this time.
BA was pretty daft not correcting it, but mac was even more shit by not checking a thing then agreeing a specific date for the NAP to end, effectively waiving his 72 hour period. It's a horrific error from both of the top two alliances, but only one side takes exception because they came out badly from it. ND never broke any agreement as a result, we just took advantage of a glorious error made by our opposition. We don't need any justification to break a treaty, as it was never broken - mac agreed an earlier termination date.
I had a good laugh about it anyway, partly at my own HC's incompetence, but mainly that mac mugged himself when we weren't even trying to con him!
Yes, the top two alliances in planetarion have bouts of utter incompetence. Complete non-shocker from my point of view. This is presumably why Ascendancy don't have any HC to avoid such bloopers.
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1 Dec 2006, 22:02
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snadwich fetcher
Join Date: Jun 2001
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by jerome
he wasn't using h3ll as an argument, a certain ND hc however did, and liz was just as disappointed as you are at that
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I don't know the situation you're referring to, but there is no place for that in ND, especially at the HC level.
re: lizardking - it is hard to break a treaty by subscribing to the terms that your opponent confirms as acceptable.
ta ta
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1 Dec 2006, 23:05
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tappajahai!
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Originally Posted by Barrow|Pony
I don't know the situation you're referring to, but there is no place for that in ND, especially at the HC level.
re: lizardking - it is hard to break a treaty by subscribing to the terms that your opponent confirms as acceptable.
ta ta
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Ye, u had a hc with a good faith fooled? Well done buying time. Suppose mac didn't expect such a maneuver coming from ND. Tbh who would've. If u used any of that brain capacity @ IN GAME, instead counting lines @ THE FORUM - we might even 1 day see ND gaining result/improvement between rounds, but seems the hq can't find the time from growing their e-peniz.
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How convenient. You do realise tho, u'd have saved some spare time and erm credibility just by ending the nap 1 day sooner, instead of having to present us with ur storytelling gifts. Guessing that 24h really meant so much to u? It's not so fruitful in longterm when alliances have to bring truethsayers, advocates and magnifying glasses into meetings with u I guess.
For the record I couldn't care a rats arse if u did this or not. Just try and remove that circle from above ya heads mmmmMmm'kay?
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1 Dec 2006, 23:10
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Jack In The Box
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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No he didn't, I think. It's more a problem of people feeling annoyed when you say something that is not suiting their case.
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Heartless a few days ago you posted something of the likes "Yeah eX deserve to win because all the other alliances are just dumb." and now you write "Yeah eX deserve to go down and deserve to get incomings of so many alliances. You know the meaning of "Wie eine Flagge im Wind" unless you're even more of an idiot than you already showed to be.
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1 Dec 2006, 23:58
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
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Heartless a few days ago you posted something of the likes "Yeah eX deserve to win because all the other alliances are just dumb."
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That is true and I bet he stands by his statements.
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now you write "Yeah eX deserve to go down and deserve to get incomings of so many alliances.
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Where the **** has he said anything about eXi deserving to go down? He has commented on how alliances should target eXi and has argued that they should, doesn't mean that he doesn't think that eXi doesn't deserve to win.
I have been campaigning for people to hit eXi all round, yet I know that they deserve to win the round as they have played best as an alliance thus far, but I still encourage the FO/ND attack on them.
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You know the meaning of "Wie eine Flagge im Wind" unless you're even more of an idiot than you already showed to be.
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I think you'll find that Heartless is one of the more intelligent members of this community, and if you didn't want your words being misinterpreted, you could have easily made the statement in English. Qebab translated it word for word and it seems to be fairly safe to assume that you mean that Heartless keeps changing sides, but he isn't at all.
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2 Dec 2006, 03:00
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: NewDawn's Official Proposal to Furious Omen
I was about to write a reply but kila was kind enough to point out the fine differences.
Yes I do think eXilition deserve to win the round, but at the same time it's also completely reasonable that a shitload of other alliances team up to try to prevent exilition from doing that. Admittedly, these alliances could and should have doen something about eXilition a lot earlier this round, but they did not - I don't see why that should mean that they should turn over dead now. The round ain't finished yet.
Maybe I have to reconsider my stance on all eXilition people being so much smarter than the rest of the universe when people like you, Yggdra, are unable to read what people write.
On your funny flag comparision: I am not wearing any flag at all, apart from the one that advocates common sense and playing this game.
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