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Unread 17 Apr 2005, 14:00   #1
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Your opinions on a decent car

I was wondering what the general opinions of a large group of people would be over what sort of car to go for thats not in an insurance group higher than 15, maybe 17 at a push if its not a car with a reputation. Something with good handling, a bit of (lot of, preferably) power and has a decent engine build.

I was thinking of something like a Peugeot 306 GTi-6.

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Presumably you'd want something with a lot of space in the back? Reclining seats? Etc?
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

I could name any number of decent handling cars, from Subaru to Honda to Noble.

So, HOW MUCH?
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

VW polo.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

Personally , im a big fan of the new look VW Golf, and I think when i go to get my new car, thats what it will be. Dont particularly need a huge engine, just something a bit more practical.

PS : Which is uglier. The Fiat Seicento, or the VW Lupo? And why oh why oh why do morons insists on Chavving up either of these vehicles.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

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Personally , im a big fan of the new look VW Golf, and I think when i go to get my new car, thats what it will be. Dont particularly need a huge engine, just something a bit more practical.

PS : Which is uglier. The Fiat Seicento, or the VW Lupo? And why oh why oh why do morons insists on Chavving up either of these vehicles.

Today I saw a smart car, wit the big spoiler on the back, that surely must tip the car backwards in winds over 5mph.
It also had lowered suspension, low side skirts, and a scooped bonnet, with fancy light clusters on the rear and front.
and gold alloys.
The interchangable side panels were covered in flames.

why
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

As Dead_Meat said, it's easier on us to suggest cars knowning what sort of price range you have in mind, and whether you are buying brand new or second hand.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

I'd prefer to get second hand seeing as buying a car new isn't worth it unless you're planning to keep it for a very long time, as depreciation is significant. I did mention the 306 which is getting a little dated now. I'd say my price range is about 5k - 12k.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

thats quite a large range. if i had 10-12k I'd get a new-style (yet 2nd hand) VW golf as someone allready mentioned. They look good, and they're pretty powerfull (1.6l i think, might go up to 2l?). Though it's possible they're in a higher insurance bracket than you wanted.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

I wanted a VW Golf 1.9 GT TDi mk4 at one point, and still might get one. they're within my budget and not that high insurance group-wise
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

You could do a lot worse than a good Honda Integra Type-R
If you're not too worried about creature comforts, but want full-on handling, braking and speed, it's pretty much all you could want.

If that's a little OTT, then I'd suggest a nippy little Focus ST170. Not as mad as the Focus 2.0 RS, but good and pokey, and if you like this sort of thing, eminently moddable with shitty accessories from Halfords.

Other than that, Subaru's, Audi A3, Skoda Octavia RS (no, I'm not kidding) and all the usual Citraoen Saxo VTS/VTR (getting on a bit now) and if you don;t mind the dull interior, the last Honda prelude is still a great car, as long as you get the 2.2VTEC with passive rear steering.

Now, if you wanted to go another direction completely, you could pick up all sorts of big old cars, such as Jags, BMWs, and the like, but you'll be getting out of arranty, but you'll be getting a lot of car for your money. BMW M3 is not out of the question, but I don't know about insurance.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

Mark IV VW Golf
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

its no 911 tho.


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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

actually if i was in your position id probably buy a BMW 5 Series. (old style) not the new.

you can pick up a 520i for around 10-15grand depending on age and miles and theres not a lot of cars for that kind of dosh that are going to beat it for refinement/power/handling etc etc.

oh and comfort.
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Personally , im a big fan of the new look VW Golf, and I think when i go to get my new car, thats what it will be. Dont particularly need a huge engine, just something a bit more practical.

PS : Which is uglier. The Fiat Seicento, or the VW Lupo? And why oh why oh why do morons insists on Chavving up either of these vehicles.
I think the golf is everything you need, i drive my mums when at home, its very spacious wether youre front or back passenger (Im a 6ft and I can sit in the back in comfort) its nippy, ie very fast (has 6 gears) controls well, good electronics ie windscreen wipers come on when it detects rain, lights come on when it gets dark and other smart little things that make life easier (ie when you lock the car at night the lights stay on for 30 seconds or so, ie parking it in front of your house, you can see where youre going. Not only that but it looks nice (especially in the black that weve got) and its an eye turner you dont see too many around atm.
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are html type tags still in these days?
didnt know they made Boxter, I thought it was Boxster...

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I'd prefer to get second hand seeing as buying a car new isn't worth it unless you're planning to keep it for a very long time, as depreciation is significant. I did mention the 306 which is getting a little dated now. I'd say my price range is about 5k - 12k.
new cars lose value quickly, but certain cars hold there value well, ie golfs seem to hold there value well, if you sell on withing 2-3 years etc.
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you can pick up a 520i for around 10-15grand depending on age and miles and theres not a lot of cars for that kind of dosh that are going to beat it for refinement/power/handling etc etc.

oh and comfort.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

So a snappy advert makes up for the fact you suggested the most generic, obvious choice known to man?

MUST DO BETTER.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

I learnt to drive in a Lupo, it was quite funny having to spend 10 minutes at the start of lessons pumping the seat all the way down and back, my teacher and seemingly all her other pupils were quite small
I passed in it though, so all is good, but I'd never buy one
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As much as I like the look of some BMW's, they're far too expensive to get fixed and quite expensive to buy anyway. Also there are so many of them on the road now.
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So what ARE you going to buy?
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Well I think I have my heart set on a 306 GTi-6, but I thought i'd see what other people had to suggest. For the most part its already been models that I have considered, but decided against for various reasons.
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You considered an Integra Type-R ?
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No, not the Integra, i'll look into it now. Think the Civic Type-R is out of my league, though.
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Its insurance group 18, so probably a little high for me at this very moment.
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The cheapest insurance company wants twice as much for an Integra when compared to a 306 :| Look like nice cars, though.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

Hmm, Integra Type R is a Group 18.

Oh well, the ST170 is a 15.
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

I have added the Honda Integra Type R to my shortlist, as I don't know how my financial situation will be like by October, but if things go to plan it might be in a better state to cope with the insurance and general cost of the car. So the list is so far:

Peugeot 306 GTi-6
Honda Integra Type R
Citroen Saxo VTS
Peugeot 106 GTi
Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI
VW Golf 1.9 GT TDI (not sure which bhp version, 150 preferably)
Vauxhall Astra GSi


Few others I like, but can't think of off the top of my head. Thats in order of current preference.
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Peugeot 406 Coupe?
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

My old one in the UK. Near Heathrow airport.
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Denial, I look forward to seeing you *cruising* up and down Crowborough highstreet
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

Right, I've found it.

You should not care about insurance, about cost to maintain, about anything else, because I have found you a 1998 Jaguar XJR, 400bhp, fully loaded, FSH, for less than 12 grand.

Now that, my friend, is a seriously good car.
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I don't think I am quite mature enough for a Jaguar like that. I'll look into the 406 Coupe, though.
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Peugeot 306 GTi-6 - Maybe
Honda Integra Type R - Yes
Citroen Saxo VTS - NO
Peugeot 106 GTi - NO
Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI - NO
VW Golf 1.9 GT TDI (not sure which bhp version, 150 preferably) - YES
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After 2 days of deliberation, I am going to make the Honda Integra Type R my next car, and the Peugeot 306 GTi-6 my fallback car if I find that I cannot afford the Honda.

Looks pretty good
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Re: Your opinions on a decent car

Type R all the way, or maybe Clio V6, whatever floats ur boat
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