What all the fuss is about

[Jester]

Sour grapes*.

Jester

This isn't true in all cases, but a fair amount of VOM's critics were themselves looking to ally with some of them.

[Anakin]

The point ofc been, even if they had wanted to allie, (and i cant claim this is a fact, simply speculation) i personaly doubt they would have 'blocked'.

Put it this way, who is their worth blocking against ? ... ND ? Eclipse ? HD? heh... come on think about it.

Good alliance's blocking against weak opersition is a foolish move with only one result, eventual stagnation.

Im so glad we have learnt so much in the r8 rounds we have played this game \0/.

***Disclaimer : This isnt a cry, or a whine, just an objective view of the moves made by certain alliances, it is not at all meant to put down any other alliance (even the ones used as an example), but indeed meant to illustrate the lack of quality in planetarion based on a view of the quality found in past rounds of planetarion.

[Whis]

Originally posted by Anakin
The point ofc been, even if they had wanted to allie, (and i cant claim this is a fact, simply speculation) i personaly doubt they would have 'blocked'.

Put it this way, who is their worth blocking against ? ... ND ? Eclipse ? HD? heh... come on think about it.

My thoughts exactly.

Face it, even this 'blocking' is all a part of the big game.

If you can't win the big game, don't come on here crying about it; instead try and do something about it, create your own 'block', quit PA, or join the winning side.

Now kindly stfu!

[Scouse]

Correcto Jester.

From what I'm hearing the WP block is way bigger.

[Fleet_Multiplex]

indeed

[Lerxst]

Originally posted by Anakin
The point ofc been, even if they had wanted to allie, (and i cant claim this is a fact, simply speculation) i personaly doubt they would have 'blocked'.

Put it this way, who is their worth blocking against ? ... ND ? Eclipse ? HD? heh... come on think about it.

Good alliance's blocking against weak opersition is a foolish move with only one result, eventual stagnation.

Im so glad we have learnt so much in the r8 rounds we have played this game \0/.

***Disclaimer : This isnt a cry, or a whine, just an objective view of the moves made by certain alliances, it is not at all meant to put down any other alliance (even the ones used as an example), but indeed meant to illustrate the lack of quality in planetarion based on a view of the quality found in past rounds of planetarion.

I second this.

[Whis]

Originally posted by Lord_Dain
Face it, even this 'blocking' is all a part of the big game.

If you can't win the big game, don't come on here crying about it; instead try and do something about it, create your own 'block', quit PA, or join the winning side.

Now kindly stfu!

Since when is it not allowed to discuss alliance matters anymore on here? How about you stfu & go post your spam **** elsewhere.

Originally posted by Scouse
From what I'm hearing the WP block is way bigger.

Give it a rest already.

[RooKie]

Originally posted by Anakin
The point ofc been, even if they had wanted to allie, (and i cant claim this is a fact, simply speculation) i personaly doubt they would have 'blocked'.

Enlighten me of the diffrence between allying and blocking?

[Whis]

WP/Ministry allying would be the same as Oly/ViruS/Cows allying to you? For example.

[Anakin]

Originally posted by RooKie
Enlighten me of the diffrence between allying and blocking?

Read again, i never stated their was a diffrence, i was simply following on from the previous post, but since you drag it up i shall.

Had Madcows and Virus allied together and kept it at that, it wouldnt be a problem, their would be no call to bitch, any tom, dick or harry in any HC could have gone to another and asked to allie in order to aid with defence.

Infact i rather like the idea of maybe 6 'major alliances' each with a slightly smaller allie, it makes for more intresting rounds, more wars , more combinations on who is fighting who, rather than the same old crap every round.

The diffrence is you went and added another party, far execeding that of the competitions, that is a cowards move, one to be expected by an alliance looking for victory at all costs, not one what claims to put the community first (madcows?).

I put it to you, that your alliance does not have eaither the will to backup its claims, or the balls to stand alone.

This, as i pointed out earlyer isnt a cry, isnt a moan, its an objective challange of the facts, that you may ignore if you wish, but it shows your charicter and the true colours behind it.

As for Lord_Dain, yes this has become the way of planetarion... yes people should simply form blocks to combat them... but wasnt it Virus last round talking all high and mighty about anti-blocking, and isnt it time (yes we say this every round) we make some real attempt to stand alone.

Ill let you decide.

Flame on.

[Jester]

Originally posted by Anakin
Read again, i never stated their was a diffrence, i was simply following on from the previous post, but since you drag it up i shall.

Please, I find that insulting.

Infact i rather like the idea of maybe 6 'major alliances' each with a slightly smaller allie, it makes for more intresting rounds, more wars , more combinations on who is fighting who, rather than the same old crap every round.

Lets face it, there aren't 6 'major' alliances left. Let alone 6 matches that will even out in terms of firepower.

The diffrence is you went and added another party, far execeding that of the competitions, that is a cowards move, one to be expected by an alliance looking for victory at all costs, not one what claims to put the community first (madcows?).

No, the difference is they actually knew something about what was happening, and you didn't.

I put it to you, that your alliance does not have eaither the will to backup its claims, or the balls to stand alone.

How can you claim that an alliance that has gone without allies for the last few rounds doesn't have the balls to stand alone? Your logic boggles the mind.

Jester

[Anakin]

Originally posted by Jester667
Please, I find that insulting.

Oh dear...

Lets face it, there aren't 6 'major' alliances left. Let alone 6 matches that will even out in terms of firepower.

Indeed, but the theory is nice no?

No, the difference is they actually knew something about what was happening, and you didn't.

Im very aware of the opersition, i just feel (and the stats back me up here) that giveing this game has become more about numbers than quality, the 'VIMP' 'side' have a significant advantage, you may argue that all you wish, its a fact.

How can you claim that an alliance that has gone without allies for the last few rounds doesn't have the balls to stand alone? Your logic boggles the mind.

You can sit and say they went without allies if you wish, but the support was evident, regardless of that fact i feel the 'bully boy' blocking aproach that has plundged planetarion back into blocking wars is all the justification i need, madcows are not all to blaim, im even sure the other side would have done something simlar under the same circumstances ... im not contesting that, im contesting how madcows can claim to be all for the community and do such a thing. its wrong, simple as.

[RooKie]

Originally posted by Anakin
Oh dear...

Im very aware of the opersition, i just feel (and the stats back me up here) that giveing this game has become more about numbers than quality, the 'VIMP' 'side' have a significant advantage, you may argue that all you wish, its a fact.

Out of 3 blocks this round we are the smallest in numbers...are we the underdog now?

[Anakin]

Originally posted by RooKie
Out of 3 blocks this round we are the smallest in numbers...are we the underdog now?

We both know that to be a lie.

You should enter politics.

[RooKie]

did that for 6 years and u are still wrong

[Jester]

Originally posted by Anakin
Indeed, but the theory is nice no?

Not really. Anyway, it's completely and utterly unrealistic. Not even worth considering. You're basically taking the politics out of a political game. Ain't gonna happen.

Im very aware of the opersition, i just feel (and the stats back me up here) that giveing this game has become more about numbers than quality, the 'VIMP' 'side' have a significant advantage, you may argue that all you wish, its a fact.

No, you are not. Allow me to state quite simply, that if it hadn't been Oly/Madcows/Virus, then it would be someone else everyone was shouting about and demonizing.

You can sit and say they went without allies if you wish

Wtf? When did I ever say that?

regardless of that fact i feel the 'bully boy' blocking aproach that has plundged planetarion back into blocking wars is all the justification i need, madcows are not all to blaim

Madcows are only a scape... um, cows. Madcows approached the round just like a dozen other alliances. They just happened to land the sweetest deal. Now people are pissed. If you want to be angry about blocking, be angry at all the blocking alliances. Not just the one that swung the scale.

im not contesting that, im contesting how madcows can claim to be all for the community and do such a thing. its wrong, simple as.

A community is often more happy when they're winning.

Jester

[Sir_Kon]

Game without competition ain't a game.
1 aspect of a competition is to create advantages over your opposition and an other aspect is to antisipate ur oppositions move(s).

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
Game without competition ain't a game.
1 aspect of a competition is to create advantages over your opposition and an other aspect is to antisipate ur oppositions move(s).

What opposition would this be then ?

[Sir_Kon]

Originally posted by Hicks
What opposition would this be then ?

there are enough alliances out there so there will be lots of opposition and it would be naive to think none of those alliances would make agreements especially since most of them have been in talks with eachother for a long time, maybe even started their talks earlier then we did.

[JonnyBGood]

I'd just wonder how long everyone expects this block to last? If they're really that much of a threat to everyone else and will dominate the universe so easily, then surely they'll recognise this themselves as their members get bored and you could hopefully end up with a rapidly changing alliance situation which could bring a needed element of excitement to round nine. On another note I was wondering which other prominent players, I must admit to being slightly out of the loop now heh, we haven't seen on here complaining?

[Anakin]

Originally posted by JonnyBGood
I'd just wonder how long everyone expects this block to last? If they're really that much of a threat to everyone else and will dominate the universe so easily, then surely they'll recognise this themselves as their members get bored and you could hopefully end up with a rapidly changing alliance situation which could bring a needed element of excitement to round nine. On another note I was wondering which other prominent players, I must admit to being slightly out of the loop now heh, we haven't seen on here complaining?

LMAO ... yes their simply going to see stagnation and break-up, a likely story ... one hurd every-round.

Im not for a second saying they are immortal, or their is no competition, simply saying they out avarage the others oposing them and have as such started a blocking race, and yes they did start it, and against weaker alliances.

If however by your statment they did somehow dominate the comeing round, like every past block, their not simply going to split, their galaxys will be mixed for a start.

Logisticaly impossible situation leading to one thing. Stagnation.

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
there are enough alliances out there so there will be lots of opposition and it would be naive to think none of those alliances would make agreements especially since most of them have been in talks with eachother for a long time, maybe even started their talks earlier then we did.

Really so the threat posed by New Dawn justifies you allying three of the most powerful alliances in the game ? You just don't see it do you ?

Why do Virus keep promoting techies to Executives and then letting them loose on the forums ?

No offence was intended to New Dawn their just an example of what the three amigos face.

[Anakin]

Originally posted by Hicks
Really so the threat posed by New Dawn justifies you allying three of the most powerful alliances in the game ? You just don't see it do you ?

WINNER!.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally posted by Anakin
LMAO ... yes their simply going to see stagnation and break-up, a likely story ... one hurd every-round.

Im not for a second saying they are immortal, or their is no competition, simply saying they out avarage the others oposing them and have as such started a blocking race, and yes they did start it, and against weaker alliances.

If however by your statment they did somehow dominate the comeing round, like every past block, their not simply going to split, their galaxys will be mixed for a start.

Logisticaly impossible situation leading to one thing. Stagnation.

I believe you're levelling quite a shocking accusation of incompetence at everyone else for this coming round. There is still a massive opportunity present for other alliances. As well as this there are hundreds of ways to win a round without possessing the biggest numbers. Finally I doubt that stagnation is the only possible outcome. We've seen it before and nobody likes it, perhaps we'll see a completely different approach this round to in-gal relations? Personally I hope you're incorrect here. If not it will be a terrible scenario. Unfortunately I'm unsure quite what everyone hopes to get out of this.

[Sirad]

Originally posted by Anakin
We both know that to be a lie.

You should enter politics.

pointed at rookie .. but I am in politics and well
he dident lie

[Sir_Kon]

Originally posted by Hicks
Really so the threat posed by New Dawn justifies you allying three of the most powerful alliances in the game ? You just don't see it do you ?

Why do Virus keep promoting techies to Executives and then letting them loose on the forums ?

No offence was intended to New Dawn their just an example of what the three amigos face.

FYI, i never was a techie.

and i agree ND alone isn't much of a threat i was more thinking of Eclipse, WP and ELY which will probably use ND and other alliances as galfillers.
If u r trying to claim no alliance other then ViruS, Olympians and MadCows were in the process of making allies u are a bit naive.
It's all about which co-op is known first and they will automatically get the words "powerblocking" and "stagnation" thrown to their heads so the other alliances have an excuse to co-op with eachother.

[WipeOut]

I love you anyway sirad.

[Anakin]

Originally posted by JonnyBGood
I believe you're levelling quite a shocking accusation of incompetence at everyone else for this coming round. There is still a massive opportunity present for other alliances. As well as this there are hundreds of ways to win a round without possessing the biggest numbers. Finally I doubt that stagnation is the only possible outcome. We've seen it before and nobody likes it, perhaps we'll see a completely different approach this round to in-gal relations? Personally I hope you're incorrect here. If not it will be a terrible scenario. Unfortunately I'm unsure quite what everyone hopes to get out of this.

I certainly hope your correct.

[hook]

Hrm

Don't make me come over to Tilburg to show you how 'neutral' the rest of the universe can be Sirad

btw: We'll have to set a date for a few beers soon

[WipeOut]

Originally posted by hook


btw: We'll have to set a date for a few beers soon

Come to Maastricht second weekend of february, I wanted to hump sirad anyway sometime soon. Might as well date you too then.

[CamelToe]

hypocrites.

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
FYI, i never was a techie.

and i agree ND alone isn't much of a threat i was more thinking of Eclipse, WP and ELY which will probably use ND and other alliances as galfillers.
If u r trying to claim no alliance other then ViruS, Olympians and MadCows were in the process of making allies u are a bit naive.
It's all about which co-op is known first and they will automatically get the words "powerblocking" and "stagnation" thrown to their heads so the other alliances have an excuse to co-op with eachother.

You knew this for certain did you ? Considering Wolfpack and Elysium haven't done a deal for Planetarion yet it suggests that what you think you know is a bit lacking. Perhaps you should take the advice Araanaf was dishing out and keep Star Sphere and Planetarion separate.

Is that really your justification for allying three of arguably the three most powerful alliances in the game ? "We though they might ally so we beat them to it" your as bad as Scouse was with Titans last round. Do you really think anyone can come up with anything nearly as powerful as your little endeavour, come on where is this mighty challenge going to come from ? Are you scared of an Entity, Fort and hirr block facing you ?

Face it Titans/Olympians is your new Fury you can't stop hugging their skirts as your too scared to stand up alone.

[Hicks]

Originally posted by CamelToe
hypocrites.

In what way ? All I see is Anakin's NoS going solo and my imaginary alliance standing up for itself.

[Eol]

Originally posted by RooKie
Out of 3 blocks this round we are the smallest in numbers...are we the underdog now?

Our members are so good they count for 3 of theirs, ofc.

.... or not?

[Sirad]

Originally posted by WipeOut
I love you anyway sirad.

<< he is my Friend we dont care about pa politics etc
if i roid his arse to 3 rocks or he roids min to 3 rocks we can still go to a bar and have a good time
thats a friendship

hook :/

you had your chance to go to antwerp i said hold a sign and i'll pick u up along the way. only guy we seen holding a sign said"[some dutch or belgian name] and he looked like a hobo in his 40's

[WipeOut]

Originally posted by Hicks
Anakin's NoS

You're a funny man at times Hicks...

But if you forget about this minor, but inforgivable mistake ( ) I have to admit that I totally agree with you.

[CamelToe]

Originally posted by Hicks
In what way ? All I see is Anakin's NoS going solo and my imaginary alliance standing up for itself.

I guess you'll probably find out in a few days if not sooner... but you will see then what I'm talking about.

[Sir_Kon]

Originally posted by Hicks
You knew this for certain did you ? Considering Wolfpack and Elysium haven't done a deal for Planetarion yet it suggests that what you think you know is a bit lacking. Perhaps you should take the advice Araanaf was dishing out and keep Star Sphere and Planetarion separate.

Is that really your justification for allying three of arguably the three most powerful alliances in the game ? "We though they might ally so we beat them to it" your as bad as Scouse was with Titans last round. Do you really think anyone can come up with anything nearly as powerful as your little endeavour, come on where is this mighty challenge going to come from ? Are you scared of an Entity, Fort and hirr block facing you ?

Face it Titans/Olympians is your new Fury you can't stop hugging their skirts as your too scared to stand up alone.

I never claimed i was absolutly sure but then sumthing called comon sense come into play.

And apparantly ur tactic is to demonize us and make us look like we control a VERY large part of the universe which is simply not true, with trying to do this u are trying to steer the universe to form a huge counterblock thus steering them to stagnation.

[WipeOut]

Originally posted by sirad
<< he is my Friend we dont care about pa politics etc
if i roid his arse to 3 rocks or he roids min to 3 rocks we can still go to a bar and have a good time
thats a friendship

Yes, do remember that when I nuke you pethatic little planet to pieces, rape your female inhabitants and destroy your habitats, and last but not least, take your roids in the next round.

Anyway, we can take Hook with us for that beer in 2 weeks, can't we?

[Anakin]

Originally posted by WipeOut
You're a funny man at times Hicks...

But if you forget about this minor, but inforgivable mistake ( ) I have to admit that I totally agree with you.

So the public have finaly figured it out, im the master-mind behind the show **

/nick Chinese

=
Rehs.
=

Do play nice old friend.

[WipeOut]

Originally posted by CamelToe
I guess you'll probably find out in a few days if not sooner... but you will see then what I'm talking about.

You have no right of speech?

[Hicks]

Originally posted by CamelToe
I guess you'll probably find out in a few days if not sooner... but you will see then what I'm talking about.

You finally managed to work out a counter block formed ? Old news, what did you expect them all to roll over and die as your just that dam good.

Originally posted by Sir_Kon


with trying to do this u are trying to steer the universe to form a huge counterblock thus steering them to stagnation.

=V= intel is as crap as ever, don't Olympians throw you any bones ?

I don't need to demonise you, you've done that yourselves by forcing the situation which is developing. If the universe stagnates its your fault.

[Fleet_Multiplex]

Originally posted by Hicks
Why do Virus keep promoting techies to Executives and then letting them loose on the forums ?

Afaid that im the only Techie to have ever been promoted to Executive level in ViruS, and i am also the most long standing Executive in ViruS aswell.

Check your facts please Hicks, or just shut the **** up about what u know nothing about.

[Sirad]

Originally posted by WipeOut
Yes, do remember that when I nuke you pethatic little planet to pieces, rape your female inhabitants and destroy your habitats, and last but not least, take your roids in the next round.

Anyway, we can take Hook with us for that beer in 2 weeks, can't we?

depens if he's that hobo or not
i heard minty is in town hes good for a anal rapeing havent seen him in a while.

my planet your buying this round right ? or god might forget me when hes makeing the worlds :\

[Sir_Kon]

Originally posted by Hicks
=V= intel is as crap as ever, don't Olympians throw you any bones ?[/b]

What makes u think i would tell AD readers everything i know?

Originally posted by Hicks
I don't need to demonise you, you've done that yourselves by forcing the situation which is developing. If the universe stagnates its your fault. [/b]

we hardly are forcing the situation that is developing, we merely did what is in our best interest.
The ppl who want to make us look like we r the only serious competitor in the competition is feeding the need for creating huge blocks.(aint it a good way to create an excuse to justify REAL powerblocks.)
Everyone with some comon sense knows we arent the only competitor by far as we only control approx 1/10th of the universe which leaves 9/10th for the other competitors

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Fleet_Multiplex
Afaid that im the only Techie to have ever been promoted to Executive level in ViruS, and i am also the most long standing Executive in ViruS aswell.

Check your facts please Hicks, or just shut the **** up about what u know nothing about.

That's all you can do isn't it ? You can't concentrate on what's being discussed you have to nit pick at a fringe of a post. I was under the impression that he was the guy who built your portal I guess I was wrong but I really don't care about the internal structure of ViruS nor do I consider you worth the effort of finding out.

He's making your alliance look stupid on the boards hence I just assumed he was a techie you'd promoted to fill gaps in your HC quite similar to yourself. I'm pondering what you'll do now, will you try and defend your alliance's actions or will you tell me how great a HC you are and how much I suck ?

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
What makes u think i would tell AD readers everything i know?


we hardly are forcing the situation that is developing, we merely did what is in our best interest.
The ppl who want to make us look like we r the only serious competitor in the competition is feeding the need for creating huge blocks.(aint it a good way to create an excuse to justify REAL powerblocks.)
Everyone with some comon sense knows we arent the only competitor by far as we only control approx 1/10th of the universe which leaves 9/10th for the other competitors

Quite possibly because you know **** all ? As you've already proved once.

Since when has alliance strength been related to numbers ? You have three of the best organised and led alliances left in Planetarion vs a rabble, no matter how many there are it's not much of competition. Your scared of =Fort= aren't you ?

[Sir_Kon]

Originally posted by Hicks
Quite possibly because you know **** all ? As you've already proved once.

Since when has alliance strength been related to numbers ? You have three of the best organised and led alliances left in Planetarion vs a rabble, no matter how many there are it's not much of competition. Your scared of =Fort= aren't you ?

So u are seriously trying to claim Eclipse, WP and ELY are to be seen as rabble?

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
So u are seriously trying to claim Eclipse, WP and ELY are to be seen as rabble?

You proved it again in an attempt to show you know all about the counter block How about you try again.