olympians/madcows/virus + naps for round 9

[RexDrax]

Originally posted by Aneu
Ohh great, another backstabbing donkey.

Kon, go get a grip plz. Also, i asked for Aaranaf and Viper not you, due to the fact that You are:-
a) Manipulative
b) Annoying
c) Sly

I think you will be needing to clean your shoes before you eat them btw.

Aneu

Man it took me a while to stop laughing after reading that reply. Dont you realize that your just digging yourself into a deeper hole Aneu? Just walk away, just walk away!

[Domin]

Originally posted by Aneu
Ohh great, another backstabbing donkey.

Kon, go get a grip plz. Also, i asked for Aaranaf and Viper not you, due to the fact that You are:-
a) Manipulative
b) Annoying
c) Sly

I think you will be needing to clean your shoes before you eat them btw.

Aneu

Why can't u ask them in a pm? If it's so personal it's not a board issue.

Neither a AD issue...

[WebAngel]

Originally posted by Aneu
Thanks for the reply WA, but in anny account you lied to me, as iv said many times before, i dont like 'friends' who lie to me

....

When did I lie to you?

[Spearhead]

watch it webby baby, Aneu has logs , anyway i like aneu, he's trying his best to explain his situation to us...which i appreciate, now leave that man alone ! (not you webby) you lovely
and uhm block on !! migh even play R9 with the great allies i have now cya on the flip side guys and pls be gentle with eachother ! dont let friendships go to waste over a ****ing game
like to mention this last thing : aneu is a believer of fair play, something most PA players havent really got anymore good luck Vimp and Good luck HD!!!
neutrality is bliss cya around mates

regards,

Acid of Burn

[Storebo]

Originally posted by Eol
Out of curiosity, aren't you in Haer-Dalis now?

Out of curiosity.. do u think I don't have my own opinion about yourself and your alliance?

[xtothez]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
"Powerblocking" and "stagnation" are still comonly used words eventho they dont even apply on today's politics nemore.
Try to look into the future and make a story of what round 9 will most likely be like, the words "Powerblocking" and "stagnation" aren't in my story.

"It's not powerblocking if you dont call it powerblocking. "
"Its not stagnation if it hasnt happened yet."

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The day the people who wield the true power in this game realise how much they are killing it by putting themselves first will be the day the entire planet tilts on its axis and rolls into the sun.
It wasn't p2p that killed this game - it was stagnation brought on by the people in charge being too scared to risk themselves for the sake of the game at large. I find it an amusing coincidence that the crippling one-sided monopoly of power that afflicted rounds 3, 5 and 7 will continue the pattern to round 9. On the other hand, I find it hilarious to think that so many people still embody the very essence of naivety by expecting this behaviour to subside in everyone for the 'good of the game'. There are no rules for human behavior. Honour and integrity will mean jack shit on an Internet war game if you wish them to. There are no prizes for playing by the rules, we only play for the podium. The day we stand atop the rest we can justify our means to ourselves and know that is all that counts, because we won, and no one else matters.
Regardless of what is said here, what is actually done speaks far louder for you intentions. If you're here to do what is best for the good of everyone, dont contradict this by putting your own ass first.
If you're here for the kill, for the pride and for yourself, then say so. We'd all respect you so much more for honesty than for the elaborate shite posted here in an attempt to justify your actions. If you want a fight, shout it out and I'll be here to give you one.

Because I am done with the bullshit.

XtoTheZ

[isildurx]

i reckon aneu is just so pissed cuz he didnt get the allies he wanted.

guess one cant have everything.

Isil

[WebAngel]

Originally posted by xtothez
"It's not powerblocking if you dont call it powerblocking. "
"Its not stagnation if it hasnt happened yet."

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The day the people who wield the true power in this game realise how much they are killing it by putting themselves first will be the day the entire planet tilts on its axis and rolls into the sun.
It wasn't p2p that killed this game - it was stagnation brought on by the people in charge being too scared to risk themselves for the sake of the game at large. I find it an amusing coincidence that the crippling one-sided monopoly of power that afflicted rounds 3, 5 and 7 will continue the pattern to round 9. On the other hand, I find it hilarious to think that so many people still embody the very essence of naivety by expecting this behaviour to subside in everyone for the 'good of the game'. There are no rules for human behavior. Honour and integrity will mean jack **** on an Internet war game if you wish them to. There are no prizes for playing by the rules, we only play for the podium. The day we stand atop the rest we can justify our means to ourselves and know that is all that counts, because we won, and no one else matters.
Regardless of what is said here, what is actually done speaks far louder for you intentions. If you're here to do what is best for the good of everyone, dont contradict this by putting your own ass first.
If you're here for the kill, for the pride and for yourself, then say so. We'd all respect you so much more for honesty than for the elaborate ****e posted here in an attempt to justify your actions. If you want a fight, shout it out and I'll be here to give you one.

Because I am done with the bull****.

XtoTheZ

I guess that you know me and the Olympians very well to pretend such things. So please tell me more about me and Olympians.
Tell me how many players are Olympians. Tell me who they are. Tell me if they are nice players or not. Tell me why I have refused so many agreements with some other alliances Tell me why I have not been able to sleep the night after I had to refuse to play with some pleople who have been very nice with me just because the PA universe is going to be very small. Tell me why I am playing this round while I have so much work to do. Please tell me. Please tell me. Please tell me.

[Eol]

Originally posted by xtothez
"It's not powerblocking if you dont call it powerblocking. "
"Its not stagnation if it hasnt happened yet."

I find it an amusing coincidence that the crippling one-sided monopoly of power that afflicted rounds 3, 5 and 7 will continue the pattern to round 9.

That'll only be the case if the reaction to this relatively small group of players is so immense that you find you crushed the 'evil powerblock' two weeks into the game, allied to the entire universe. Our galaxy policy even makes it easier for you to hit us - we really will not care for the immense fencesitting politics that plagued PA in previous private rounds.

Look, fs. Olympians had offers from the vast majority of the notable alliances (yours was the exception, not the rule), and we could indeed have made a powerblock to rival r7's FLTTVFRBIV+++. Instead we chose to get precisely enough to fill our galaxies while not overstretching ourselves. I am fathomlessly surprised at how this is misunderstood for a bid for the 'podium' when it's actually the opposite. There is NO powerblock. We didn't make one. Ofc we want opposition, but look around you. We have a small, dedicated universe with rounds of experience. It's not like an alliance like Olympians is leagues ahead of the rest as was the case with Legion and Fury in round 2 and 3. We are a small alliance that are playing more for the joy of playing together than for the desire to win.

To be honest I worry about the reaction to what is not such a flippin big deal. All I wanted was to play in secure galaxies and have fun with people I've played with traditionally. And I can see room and potential for quite a few more (at least 3-4) decent sized alliance groups. Don't overkill by creating a super-power-block in response to what is really a small group of small alliances. Form a reactionary super-block and I would say that the guilty for a polarized universe are not sitting here. One might even suspect you want *power*blocks.

[Sir_Kon]

Originally posted by xtothez
"It's not powerblocking if you dont call it powerblocking. "
"Its not stagnation if it hasnt happened yet."

I in no way said that, i said "Powerblocking" and "Stagnation" are words of the past, there are not existing in today's politics nor will they exist in round 9.
"Then why do alliances work together?"
answer: comon sense.

Originally posted by xtothez
The day the people who wield the true power in this game realise how much they are killing it by putting themselves first will be the day the entire planet tilts on its axis and rolls into the sun.
It wasn't p2p that killed this game - it was stagnation brought on by the people in charge being too scared to risk themselves for the sake of the game at large. I find it an amusing coincidence that the crippling one-sided monopoly of power that afflicted rounds 3, 5 and 7 will continue the pattern to round 9. On the other hand, I find it hilarious to think that so many people still embody the very essence of naivety by expecting this behaviour to subside in everyone for the 'good of the game'. There are no rules for human behavior. Honour and integrity will mean jack **** on an Internet war game if you wish them to. There are no prizes for playing by the rules, we only play for the podium. The day we stand atop the rest we can justify our means to ourselves and know that is all that counts, because we won, and no one else matters.
Regardless of what is said here, what is actually done speaks far louder for you intentions. If you're here to do what is best for the good of everyone, dont contradict this by putting your own ass first.
If you're here for the kill, for the pride and for yourself, then say so. We'd all respect you so much more for honesty than for the elaborate ****e posted here in an attempt to justify your actions. If you want a fight, shout it out and I'll be here to give you one.

Because I am done with the bull****.

XtoTheZ [/b]

it's a nice story and almost hit my heart, u forgot 1 little thingie tho.
The _ONLY_ reason people are still playing planetarion eventho it went p2p is _NOT_ because the game itself is so good but cause of the communities and politics that has been created around it.
These very same communities would never have existed if alliances were never formed (not on the same scale as it is now)
These very same politics would never have existed if alliances were never formed and never started to ally/nap to gain an advantage over the others.

Bottom line is that Planetarion is nothing without the alliances and the politics it brought with it. If alliances and politics would end now planetarion will be dead within a week because of the simple fact that without those things planetarion is boring.

[cypher]

hmmmm it's kinda funny that aneu is already talking in terms of being the best heh:/ while his alliance never even existed at the same time any round of pa was held (as far as my pathetic information goes ofc )

still i think membercount stands for alot of things.... if these 3 exceed the other 'blocks' by far it'll be boring as **** but just as last round that wasn't the case and titans/ldk still did better then others... so just play and see where things end

[niwaie]

aneu. funny how fitting a name can be.

[Eylisia]

Actually, the way atleast I read Xtos post,
it was basically a kick towards all of us.
To really take a look at what we do,and figure out why we do it.
I didnt see him calling anyone in specific anything at all,
and as such I actually read it as to me too.
And he is my officer..

Ofc I could be wrong, but I didnt read his comments as specifically aimed towards Olympia ,more all the people in this thread throwing accusations back and forth.

Anyways, best of luck in r9,
and we will see you on the battlefield

Eylisia

[xtothez]

Originally posted by WebAngel
I guess that you know me and the Olympians...

I'm not talking about you.
I'm talking to you.

[JonnyBGood]

To every single other alliance in the game I would say this, now is your chance. I think this certainly constitutes a powerful enough force, from my admittedly limited knowledge of Olympians for one, to win r9. However the round has not even started. I'd say most alliance HCs who haven't allied themselves with a significant group will now be at least mildly concerned for their alliance in r9. Luckily there are many alliances left in this same position. I would assume even now that people are now trying to work out how to save their own alliances for the next round.

To be honest I don't see what the problem is, there is no total monopoly on talent, there are no vast hordes of players who can submerge people through sheer weight of numbers, they have no incredible new tactics which you cannot figure out. The first play has been made in what I can now say with some degree of assurance is the first round of the new Planetarion. Powerblocking is not a death knell, r6 was hardly all over within a week or two but there were three definite power blocks involved. My only advice would be to urge you to consider your options before allying too rashly. Although seeing as I was never a great alliance HC I doubt that's the most stunning of advice.

Good luck.

[Eol]

Well said, Jonny. The gap between alliances is not at all as large as it was. The problem with blocks or groups is not that they exist, rather that there have traditionally been too few of them.

[Stress]

Originally posted by Eol
Don't overkill by creating a super-power-block in response to what is really a small group of small alliances. Form a reactionary super-block and I would say that the guilty for a polarized universe are not sitting here. One might even suspect you want *power*blocks.

so ure saying that the member count of Virus alone is to be considered a small alliance?
And another of the fractions in that group, Madcows, we ( ELysium) know the member numbers down to +/- 2 .
I have a good estimate on yours to, cant be more off then by 15...

putting these numbers together, and expecting a playerbase of aroud 4K ( yes I am optimistic on the player base) Id still be thinking of the added up numbres as a 'block'.

[Furbie_Fanatic]

Originally posted by Zither
I am sure ely will love to be called a 'lesser alliance'

they are

[Sir_Kon]

Originally posted by Stress
so ure saying that the member count of Virus alone is to be considered a small alliance?

What do u think our membercount is?

[Stress]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
What do u think our membercount is?

lol wrong answer editing entire post.
I dont think i know

[Sir_Kon]

am i asking what it exactly is or am i asking what _you think_ it is?

[Stress]

read edit

[Sir_Kon]

The reason why i ask is because ppl think we are still the same size as we used to be which is absolutly not true

[Stress]

Originally posted by Sir_Kon
The reason why i ask is because ppl think we are still the same size as we used to be which is absolutly not true

Asumption is the mother of all F-ups.

[Sauron]

There is always some1 trying to disinform the rest by posting these aledged "plots" of virus to control others...

Next time try to really know whats going on....and donnot make a fool of urself

[Stress]

not sure if that was directed at me. However, when i say i know i know. Belive me or not, I really do not care.

[Sirad]

Originally posted by Stress


Stress you know my membercount do you doubtfull very doubtfull

[Baco]

Originally posted by Eol
...

Nice post Eol!

We all love this game and we all hate stagnation and lack of roids but the fact is that I don't see myself playing in a gal with 10 persons from the same aliance, neither u I bet! And at the same time we all think twice before adding a neutral member to a gal, at least I do, things change during rounds... .3-4 members of the same aliance per gal....what's wrong with it?

PS - Note that 2 of this aliances r small groups...

And xtothez (btw nice post as well but utopic, imo) assuming that I can ask u this, do u look into WP/Ely as a one or u still look at it as 2 different aliances?

[xtothez]

Originally posted by Baco
And xtothez (btw nice post as well but utopic, imo) assuming that I can ask u this, do u look into WP/Ely as a one or u still look at it as 2 different aliances?

Last time I checked WP and Ely were only 'one alliance' in DoM.

As far as PA is concerned, dont assume that whatever people post on here is true. If realising your own limits is the first step to enlightment and all that, then realising you know **** all about other people's activities must surely be a close second.

[Scouse]

Amusing.

[AlbinoSquirrel]

And just what other alliances are out there that are any threat to this group?

Eclipse? Great potential, currently seems a bit apathetic. Ely/WP? They may be "decent", but they are in no way the equals of Virus or Olympians, based solely on player heritage. HD? Don't know anything about it, but if it's anything like its predecessors, it'll crash and burn. Fang? Doesn't look alive. RaH? Doesn't look active. VD? Not big enough. Auld? Not big enough. NoS? Who knows?

Face it. This is a classic R3 style of play. We've got a strong, powerful Triad, and a bunch of other alliances, who may or may not be allied amongst themselves, and will probably not become organized in any significant fashion (ala STEL). Most certainly, there will not be enough resistance to provide more than a sporting war for this triad.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I agree with you. The only hope of there being a even a chance at having a competitive other block is for the rest of the alliances to ally to match them in numbers at least but even then they'll be the underdogs since small alliances dont usually have the organization to fight wars on the top level. TBH, most smaller alliance members dont even recognize the significance of this triad which is even worse thinking its "just" 3 alliances. To make matters even worse is the fact that these 3 alliances are still recruiting to fatten thier already big member bases

[Scouse]

I'm all for anything that results in WP/Ely getting a thrashing.

Ho ho ho.

[Sirad]

Originally posted by Montana
I agree with you. The only hope of there being a even a chance at having a competitive other block is for the rest of the alliances to ally to match them in numbers at least but even then they'll be the underdogs since small alliances dont usually have the organization to fight wars on the top level. TBH, most smaller alliance members dont even recognize the significance of this triad which is even worse thinking its "just" 3 alliances. To make matters even worse is the fact that these 3 alliances are still recruiting to fatten thier already big member bases

I'm not usually the violent or arrogant type because its what gets the pr|cks i meet like you off so I'll continue to be that way

"The only hope of there being a even a chance at having a competitive other block is for the rest of the alliances to ally to match them in numbers "
you were fos in round 6 were you not ?

"since small alliances dont usually have the organization to fight wars on the top level. TBH, most smaller alliance members dont even recognize the significance of this triad"

ya I'm big bad ugly

"To make matters even worse is the fact that these 3 alliances are still recruiting to fatten thier already big member bases" heh recuiting whome exactly point me in the direction of people without alliances in Planetarion the people who are left are playing with thoose whom they plan to have the most fun.

now Mr. Montana

you can also keep off my grass as your treding on it right now

[Eylisia]

Stating that Elysium and WP are as one alliance
is completely clueless.
Not only were we allied alot longer to Xanadu and
in fact longer to Legion too, but we worked closer
in some ways with both those alliances, so shush.

As to the rest of this,its amusing to see
what people know and dont know.
I dont take it very serious tho

Eylisia

[Eylisia]

Originally posted by Scouse
I'm all for anything that results in WP/Ely getting a thrashing.

Ho ho ho.

Then come spank0r us, were not that hard to find

Eylisia

[Sirad]

Eylisia leren nederlands met mij " Ik hou van jou"

[Aaranaf]

we need members to fill up our galaxies - simple

ViruS no longer has near the ~250 members it had back a while ago. we cut teh crap.

and i know im just gonna get "your just placing the blame" bs for this but. why has no one considered yelling at Wolfpack, Elysium, or even Eclipse ? they ARE in talks with others. you dont go talking with others for no reason(perhaps to make themselves a few partners?). and i know for a FACT as ive talked with other alliances who have proposed "blocks" of even greater power then what Aneu is spouting. either way- good on "us" to get our act together quickly instead of waiting till 2 days before the round.

and give Wolfpack and/or Elysium some credit. just because they didnt make as much of an "appearance" as Titans or whoever, doesnt mean theyre crap. perhaps the reason they stayed out of the lime lite was to prepare their alliance for the upcoming round 9 and come back as a superpower ?

[RooKie]

Originally posted by Stress
And another of the fractions in that group, Madcows, we ( ELysium) know the member numbers down to +/- 2 .

Stress, dont **** ur own ppl on the foot. It only hurts them.

And noone in MadCowS knows the exact membercount but me, as it is in a .xls. I bet u got that one too?

[Heartshunter]

What is it with alliancenames these days?
I can't help but associate Haer-Daelis with that weak longhaired NPC from Baldurs Gate II.

[RooKie]

I think icecream...

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by AlbinoSquirrel
And just what other alliances are out there that are any threat to this group?

Eclipse? Great potential, currently seems a bit apathetic. Ely/WP? They may be "decent", but they are in no way the equals of Virus or Olympians, based solely on player heritage. HD? Don't know anything about it, but if it's anything like its predecessors, it'll crash and burn. Fang? Doesn't look alive. RaH? Doesn't look active. VD? Not big enough. Auld? Not big enough. NoS? Who knows?

Face it. This is a classic R3 style of play. We've got a strong, powerful Triad, and a bunch of other alliances, who may or may not be allied amongst themselves, and will probably not become organized in any significant fashion (ala STEL). Most certainly, there will not be enough resistance to provide more than a sporting war for this triad.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I have to fully agree with Alby here. In the days of Fury and Legion what you have wouldnt be called a a powerblock. You arent directly targetting anyone. There is no 'Fury vs Xanadu' central role.

However with three of the most active and best alliances still within the game now what do you expect for a reaction?

You cant say "Olympians are new and unproven". It contains elements from Titans and LDK. ViruS are one of the few 'big alliances' left in the game and Madcows is one of the most promising new alliances left.

What opposition exactly is there to validate such a combination of force? Alby has gone through the list already and it just goes to show how things cannot change.

You deny its a powerblock - when in truth it is. Yes, it isnt the same scale as FLTTV - but for this next round, due to the likely size of player base and the current alliances it is a significant portion of the game.

So go on, continue to kid yourselves in that you are just 'friends wanting to work together for a nice fun round' - its "bollocks" and just a public face to it all.

I do not agree with everyone in this thread, but the fact you (1) deny any agreements (2) say you are not a powerblock is not only contradictory but foolish.

Deja vu for round 3

[RooKie]

There are so many combos that could be set up to counter such a scenario. Hopefull we will see 3 equal strong blocks in r9.

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by RooKie
There are so many combos that could be set up to counter such a scenario. Hopefull we will see 3 equal strong blocks in r9.

That is where you are wrong.

And without sounding offensive, ignorant (cant think of the right word at 8am with no sleep)

[Sirad]

Originally posted by Zh|l
That is where you are wrong.

And without sounding offensive, ignorant (cant think of the right word at 8am with no sleep)

tis ok go to bed for 4 hours like me :\
dident do much to help thou ah well off in a bit

[RooKie]

Originally posted by Zh|l
That is where you are wrong.

And without sounding offensive, ignorant (cant think of the right word at 8am with no sleep)

[09:08] <RooKie> Eclipse/Elysium/Ministry/ToT
[09:08] <RooKie> WP/NoS/Sapienta/HD

[Storebo]

Originally posted by sirad
Eylisia leren nederlands met mij " Ik hou van jou"

hold kjeft.. jævla homse

[Sirad]

Originally posted by Storebo
hold kjeft.. jævla homse

once I find out what language that is i'll ask some one on panet or the lingustics prof at uni back home :/ miss seeing her shes hot

[Cicada]

reading this thread makes me happy i quit

[Aneu]

Originally posted by isildurx
i reckon aneu is just so pissed cuz he didnt get the allies he wanted.

guess one cant have everything.

Isil

Lol, actually =V= were our second option :P

Aneu