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Unread 8 May 2006, 10:31   #1
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Thumbs up Living like this is a full-time business

"This was to be my final hit, but let's be clear about this.
There's final hits and final hits. What kind was this to be?"



Dear members of GD,

Your beloved treasure of knowledge and wisdom is gonna leave GD

When I woke up this morning I suddenly realised I've been living more and more in the past
I dream about what I should have done, what I screwed up and how good old times were
Always comparing my life to the once around me,
of people who have more success then most people can dream off
I'm afraid if I keep this up, I'll just get older, and start to live more and more in the past until it kills me


"People think it's all about misery and desperation and death
and all that shit which is not to be ignored,
but what they forget is the pleasure of it.
Otherwise we wouldn't do it. After all, we're not ****ing stupid.
At least, we're not that ****ing stupid."


The last few years of my life have been looking too much like the movie trainspotting
and i'm now in the rehab scene, locked in my room, watching dead baby's crawl over the ceiling
even tho I love the movie, I do think I have more potential then that
I wouldn't have big problems with it if the people around me were like GD
but they ain't
The sad truth is that I live in a place where you get written off if your penis isn't big enough
So I will be focusing on extending my penis for the next few years

After rebelling alot for the last few years
i'm gonna play the game of life, by the rules


When i was walking trough Rotterdam a few days back I noticed some humongeous buildings
High tech, state of the art design, where million dollar businesses make their money
Somebody has to own that right? I want such a building too
If someone else can achieve that in life, then I can too
Hell, I even think i've got a shot at obtaining one
It can't hurt to try can it?

I'll proberbly go study law again in Amsterdam in a few months
I'm gonna 'work hard and play hard' from now on
I'm dropping my dreams of becoming world champion in Zero Hour
Instead i'm gonna try to become world champion in law and economics from now on

I might be back sometimes, to get a shot, when nobody is watching
But i'll try not to

Cya at the top people!
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Unread 8 May 2006, 10:52   #2
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Re: Living like this is a full-time business

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Your beloved treasure of knowledge and wisdom is gonna leave GD
Then why didn't he post the thread?
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Unread 8 May 2006, 10:54   #3
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Then why didn't he post the thread?
Are you trying to make me stay?
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Unread 8 May 2006, 11:21   #4
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Are you trying to make me stay?
I'm trying to call this self-serving claptrap
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Unread 8 May 2006, 11:22   #5
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I'm trying to call this self-serving claptrap
haha

Yeah 'Pearl of Honesty and Truth' would suit me better
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Re: Living like this is a full-time business

go and download some brian tracy tapes or read 'think and grow rich' by Napoleon Hill. Success seems to be pretty easy, if you can be bothered.
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Unread 8 May 2006, 11:37   #7
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Re: Living like this is a full-time business

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When i was walking trough Rotterdam a few days back I noticed some humongeous buildings
High tech, state of the art design, where million dollar businesses make their money
Somebody has to own that right?
Yeah, shareholders, investment firms, pension companies etc.
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Unread 8 May 2006, 11:40   #8
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Re: Living like this is a full-time business

out of all places, the city of Rotterdam would be the last one i'd expect to be able to inspire people.

anyway, goodluck. and don't work too hard.
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they're mine and you're not having one
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Unread 8 May 2006, 12:28   #10
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I hope and trust that you will be deleted and ip-banned.

purely to help you of course ...
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Unread 8 May 2006, 12:49   #11
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Re: Living like this is a full-time business

Good luck. the chances of you being able to afford a building like that are somewhat minute. unless you have rich parents or relatives who are willing to give you a nice start in life.
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Do you have any idea how much these buildings cost?
They are never owned by individuals. Well, I suppose they might be, but I can't think of any examples.
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Good luck dude, and welcome to why I quit PA.
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Am I alone in seeing the building as a metaphor for any concrete acheivement in life?
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law, economics, real estate, and medicine are all fields i consider only marginally more valuable than injecting your life away.

but i wish you the best anyway, cause i'm a very nice guy like that.
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I'm calling shotgun on the penthouse when you get your skyscraper.
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I'm calling shotgun on the penthouse when you get your skyscraper.
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He has the potential to make it happen, goddamnit!
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Do you have any idea how much these buildings cost?
They are never owned by individuals. Well, I suppose they might be, but I can't think of any examples.
In Holland they quite often are owned by individuals.

Good luck to you Alessio, see you on the business-field here
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This pretty much concluded any thoughts I may have had that this was a Sunday8PM gimmick.
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I honestly wish you nothing but good luck in trying to get yourself and your life on track.
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law, economics, real estate, and medicine are all fields i consider only marginally more valuable than injecting your life away.
Medicine? Why?
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because he's not criticising their virtue he's criticising the amount of time you will spend working if you are in any of the three fields.
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I am curious as to what alessio will be doing in this oh so tall building of his.
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Medicine? Why?
short version, because i fear that the longevity of our elderly may bankrupt much of western civilization.

anyway i didn't say they have no value, just little value. compared to, say, farmers, manufacturers, truckers etc.
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because he's not criticising their virtue he's criticising the amount of time you will spend working if you are in any of the three fields.
is this supposed to be a riff on how much time doctors spend on golf courses or a statement that those people work oh so much that they aren't even fully reimbursed by their incomes?
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Presumably extending life-spans also extends effective working life-spans so we just need to acknowledge this!
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Presumably extending life-spans also extends effective working life-spans so we just need to acknowledge this!
the median voter in my area is almost exactly retirement age.

far as i can tell the only possibility of such an acknowledgment passing the vote would involve some use of an official 'opposite day' coinciding with a first Tuesday of November.
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is this supposed to be a riff on how much time doctors spend on golf courses or a statement that those people work oh so much that they aren't even fully reimbursed by their incomes?
Probably a statement that doctors are generally disgustingly overworked.
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short version, because i fear that the longevity of our elderly may bankrupt much of western civilization.

anyway i didn't say they have no value, just little value. compared to, say, farmers, manufacturers, truckers etc.
A surgeon has no value compared to someone who masturbates cows for a living.

what


edit: If people actually listened to what economists were telling them, then extending the lifespan of the elderly might not bankrupt Western civilization.
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edit: If people actually listened to what economists were telling them, then extending the lifespan of the elderly might not bankrupt Western civilization.
what are economists telling us that i've missed?
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what?
depend entirely on your definition of 'value'

if it is based on earning capacity, than those robbers that recently swiped $95 million must be some of the most valuable members of society in the UK, yes?
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if it is based on earning capacity, than those robbers that recently swiped $95 million must be some of the most valuable members of society in the UK, yes?
Errr...no, because they stole it off others.
Plus, the probably shipped most abroad (I can't remember how much was found)
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Has allesio gone into rehab because he does heroin? I couldnt be bothered to read the thread ;/
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i'd place more value on the work that requires more training/learning/knowledge, one that is less likely to be fulfilled by some sort of AI/robot thingy in the future.
certainly a better line of reasoning than pure earning power. society makes a major investment of training and resources into some individuals, and those individuals are then "valuable" in the sense that to replace that person would require repeating that same major investment. whether that training leads him to surgery or football, he still has a significant replacement value. whereas a replacement for that miner or garbage man (whose works are clearly important) could be purchased for perhaps 3 chickens and a pack of smokes in some rural african areas.

However, the training and investment that went into the 9/11 hijackers was extreme. tens of millions of dollars, years of planning, all that kind of stuff. Now, making the controversial assumption that the 9/11 attacks were "A Bad Thing", would you still be able to count those individuals (while they were living I guess) as "extremely valuable members of society"?

I would argue 'no', saying that at some point in your math you have to account for the effects of people's actions.
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this is hardly an innate property of medicine. for instance, if we enforced a cut off date for NHS care (or a cut off head date lolz) your issue would be dealt with.
that's entirely fair. i think some aspects of medicine (as practiced today) have very high benefits for little costs. and some other areas, the opposite.
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Infact, it could be the very area of study (medicine) that infact solves the problem of ageing altogether.
so that we could all be immortals?

it would solve the problem of the working age population being too small to support the elderly, but i could imagine other problems poking up.
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However, the training and investment that went into the 9/11 hijackers was extreme. tens of millions of dollars, years of planning, all that kind of stuff. Now, making the controversial assumption that the 9/11 attacks were "A Bad Thing", would you still be able to count those individuals (while they were living I guess) as "extremely valuable members of society"?
They had percieved value to some....
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