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Unread 31 Aug 2006, 19:24   #1
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Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

"Criminalist" in describing someone who is a criminal, or rather; as in this case; someone who studies criminals? The word does not appear in my dictionary. How would you interpret this word?
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

With the same contempt as 'homicide bomber'.
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Unread 31 Aug 2006, 19:28   #3
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

like many words americans use it's technically correct. they just prefer using longer words to shorter.

where we would say "X had criminal tendancies" they would say "X had criminalist (or even criminalistic) tendancies"

It makes them feel clever
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

The exact term is criminologist

I would interpret criminalist as 'a journalist who speculates about crimes'
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

In the state of California all of the CSI types who work for the state are refered to as criminalists. This being their official job title.

DNA people, balistic experts, trace evidence analyzers, etc. are all Crimnalists acording to the Golden State.
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

Ok. In the example I heard, the policeman being interviewed was asked a question, and he replied "I have been in consultation with leading criminalists."
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

Can someone who is a criminal be described as a "Criminalist"? Afterall they have an interest in crime?
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

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In the state of California all of the CSI types who work for the state are refered to as criminalists. This being their official job title.

DNA people, balistic experts, trace evidence analyzers, etc. are all Crimnalists acording to the Golden State.
I like my definition better
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

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Can someone who is a criminal be described as a "Criminalist"? Afterall they have an interest in crime?
If you are interested in art, does that make you an artist?
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

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If you are interested in art, does that make you an artist?
by that argument a criminalist would be a criminal.

i.e., someone who produces crime.

fake edit: i guess technically a criminalist would then be someone who produces criminals, perhaps like Al Capone's parents or the republican party.
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

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"Criminalist" in describing someone who is a criminal, or rather; as in this case; someone who studies criminals? The word does not appear in my dictionary. How would you interpret this word?
someone who graduated in criminology.
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

its summable up with a simple explanation:

american find it hard to spell, therefore they condense the word wherever possible
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

dare I point out that a criminologist is a different thing ...
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

I though this thread would be about CNN not turning off the mic of that news reporter while she was in the bathroom during Bush's speech for some reason

I think it was just a verbal typo for criminologist. Surely there's no such [English] word?
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

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With the same contempt as 'homicide bomber'.

Yes, except that not a word, its a "catch phrase" Homicide is a word, and so is bomber. Its the arangement of the two into a catch phrase that makes it awkward. I'd rather call them suicide bombers, that way we know the bitch blew himself up. Additionally, most 'bombers' are homicidal.

On the other hand, Criminalist is one single word. And yes, it is a word.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/criminalist
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someone who graduated in criminology.
If someone who studied criminology is a criminalist, is someone who studied sociology a socialist?
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Re: Today, I heard a new word (courtesy of CNN).

It's a job title in several states in the USA. Here is an official definition:

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

criminalist

SYLLABICATION: crim·i·nal·ist
PRONUNCIATION: krm-n-lst
NOUN: A specialist in the collection and examination of the physical evidence of crime.
OTHER FORMS: crimi·nal·istics —NOUN
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