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29 May 2013, 19:57
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Fightin-irish for life
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
mz you left out the bit where he predicted no FI planet would finish inside the top 200
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29 May 2013, 21:09
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Good Son
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Forest
And yes I know shit
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well of course you do, who'd be more familiar with shit than shit itself.
i predict snra will win #1 planet.
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29 May 2013, 21:12
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Tietäjä
well of course you do, who'd be more familiar with shit than shit itself.
i predict snra will win #1 planet.
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He got a dragons bot army behind him again?
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30 May 2013, 13:00
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Registered User
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Reading through these posts and other threads it seems people say RL issues and stuff when no one actually wants them around.
fang
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30 May 2013, 16:01
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old spy
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: norway,oslo
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
ct/fang/nd in the top 5
apprime/vikings if they join tag for the round ;-) (if its true they only have 20-25 ppl each.
spore/imortals-rock/ultores/faceless might be up there fighting depening on how many members they end up geting.
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30 May 2013, 16:52
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Good Son
Join Date: May 2001
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
He got a dragons bot army behind him again?
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no such thing as a dragons bot army you're mixing things up with the lithuanian blokes.
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30 May 2013, 17:38
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#57
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Tietäjä
no such thing as a dragons bot army you're mixing things up with the lithuanian blokes.
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Sure im not
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30 May 2013, 17:54
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Good Son
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Sure im not
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sure you are
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30 May 2013, 19:11
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: oregon
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
#1 FAnG due to their awesome strategy of making BB think they're a small tag when in fact FAnG is just the decoy tag. The rest will sit in another tag or no tag in wonderfully fenced gals getting huge. They'll just merge/join before the round ends to put everyone else to shame
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30 May 2013, 19:34
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Retard0r
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
REVISED PREDICTION: (because this needs to happen!!!)
#1 - Howling Rain
#2 - Conspiracy
#3 - NewDawn
(as far as intel is saying these are the only 'full tags' playing
Hopefully CT and ND will nap like spazs... then you universe will unite behind HR.... boosting them to the round win they deserve for their dedication to PA over all these years!!!
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I was about to say something along those lines
So, my prediction will be:
#1 Howling Rain
#2 NewDawn
#3 Conspiracy
w00f!
Oh, and Forest; go take a long walk on a short pier
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31 May 2013, 00:23
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The Video Guy
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
The expression is "take a long walk off a short pier". It's wholly possible to talk a long walk on a short pier just by walking around in circles.
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31 May 2013, 01:04
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Retired
Join Date: Feb 2001
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by t3k
The expression is "take a long walk off a short pier". It's wholly possible to talk a long walk on a short pier just by walking around in circles.
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Or just by walking to the end and back multiple times.
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31 May 2013, 06:57
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
or really really slowly
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31 May 2013, 09:00
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hate us cuz they ain't us
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Would be pretty interesting seeing HR get a round win, that is for sure. If they deserve it for anything dedication to the game would surly be it.
Seems almost inevitable that at the very least these five alliance will be there in what ever order politics allows but the more interesting thing to me is who are going to be the alliances coming after these, or even perhaps taking a top 5 spot from one of these bigger alliances. Making the list for 5-10 gets pretty difficult.
1. ND
2. CT
3. HR
4. Fang
5. Ult
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31 May 2013, 11:04
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Okey, i gotta give my predictions aswell then.
Top 3 will be containing CT/ND/Spore.
What ever tag FAnG choose to join if they arnt playing themself could be taking a spot in top3 aswell.
I guess its pretty open round, but i dont think that is very positive.
No big contenders, a lot of small alliances runned by people who would like to get a good planet/gal rank, no premade "sides", crazy ship stats, etc etc.
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31 May 2013, 13:34
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Registered User
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Forest
Ult we be full tag I am sure, as will FaNG (it was last round they said same thing wasn't it?)
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I can confirm that Ultores will be a full tag, Forest is right about something!
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31 May 2013, 14:28
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Don't believe him.
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31 May 2013, 16:33
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Retard0r
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by t3k
The expression is "take a long walk off a short pier". It's wholly possible to talk a long walk on a short pier just by walking around in circles.
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Why would i want to encourage someone to commit suicide? I just want him to get away from the computer...
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31 May 2013, 18:25
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Portsmouth
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
Why would i want to encourage someone to commit suicide? I just want him to get away from the computer...
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Why?
What exactly have I done in pa, that makes you think in a game of dawdling numbers, it really is better off without me? Have I made people leave? Have I killed people? Have I hacked anyone?
It is a war game.
I refuse to sit on the fence and do what I can to make war.
That is it...
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31 May 2013, 23:01
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hate us cuz they ain't us
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Innuendo with the Dark Horse?
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31 May 2013, 23:11
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Registered User
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Mark- has joined CT so they will win.
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31 May 2013, 23:25
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Valle is my hero
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
the Mum factor... she will screw his opponents so they fall asleep and cant DC themselves... cant fail!!
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1 Jun 2013, 06:26
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Retard0r
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Forest
Why?
What exactly have I done in pa, that makes you think in a game of dawdling numbers, it really is better off without me? Have I made people leave? Have I killed people? Have I hacked anyone?
It is a war game.
I refuse to sit on the fence and do what I can to make war.
That is it...
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You keep repeating lies regarding xVx as if it makes it any more true. You're more than welcome to pm me on IRC and i'll be happy provide you with logs to set you straight, but like bbutcher i doubt you care.
Trying to stir up war is all ok by me, spreading lies that impacts an alliance' reputation is not.
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1 Jun 2013, 07:21
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
You keep repeating lies regarding xVx as if it makes it any more true. You're more than welcome to pm me on IRC and i'll be happy provide you with logs to set you straight, but like bbutcher i doubt you care.
Trying to stir up war is all ok by me, spreading lies that impacts an alliance' reputation is not.
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Which bit isn't true?
In every round since ult formed and xvx played, xvx have sided with ult.
Not only that, but in every round I personally have asked xvx if they would hit ult (so no, I don't need logs).
In addition, every time, the logs of our PRIVATE messages find their way to ult hc within about ten mins of the pm taking place.
And you just happen to take a round off at the same time as ult do.
You have never denied working with ult in the past, I don't see why you would start now.
Yes I am clearly wrong, accept my apoligies
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1 Jun 2013, 07:54
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Forest
Which bit isn't true?
Not only that, but in every round I personally have asked xvx if they would hit xvx (so no, I don't need logs).
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1 Jun 2013, 13:53
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Valle is my hero
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
I definatly remember being at war with Ultores whilst in xVx so whatever you are smoking Forest is affecting your mind.
I think you are locked onto the time that Ult and xVx napped early doors and stayed that way for most the round.
Im sure that out of the 4 rounds? that xVx and Ultores were both full tag alliances at the same time they only worked together fully for one of those rounds.
I dont see the issue you have with this anyway. ND and FAnG have openly worked as a team for 3 rounds in a row now and CT and ND worked together for many many rounds. If it is the case that you have always been on the oppossing side to these 'blocks' you hate then maybe you are the reason. Maybe people team up to annoy you, or maybe in the real world their goals for the round match because they have like minded and competent HC teams and members and would rather get good ranks for themselves and their alliances than blow up their planets and die horrifically in battle.
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1 Jun 2013, 15:00
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Retard0r
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Forest
Which bit isn't true?
In every round since ult formed and xvx played, xvx have sided with ult.
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Not true. We have warred Ult on several occations, even ef we have had avoidances with them in the same round. Some rounds we've had 3 convos between us and not interacted at all.
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Originally Posted by Forest
Not only that, but in every round I personally have asked xvx if they would hit ult (so no, I don't need logs).
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True, and ult has asked us to hit CT/ND/FAnG whoever every round, and i've said no to BOTH sides up until someone gangbangs xVx.
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Originally Posted by Forest
In addition, every time, the logs of our PRIVATE messages find their way to ult hc within about ten mins of the pm taking place.
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Not true, i have never once posted logs between you and me to any ult hc's. After going over my logs with Zwan, i find that i have NEVER even mentioned your nick.
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Originally Posted by Forest
And you just happen to take a round off at the same time as ult do.
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Yes. This is personal, so i've only told a few; i started my bachelor last August, the workload became too big(100% job + full time studies and HC'ing) so i stepped down the round before xmas, xVx went quite idle the next round and since noone had time to fulltime HC, we decided to take a break till we faced another reality. My exams are 75% done by tickstart of this round and Rocky was 100% done with his exams, so we decided to restart things.
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Originally Posted by Forest
You have never denied working with ult in the past, I don't see why you would start now.
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We will always work with people willing to help us fight back when someone gangbangs us. We have never entered a round with a NAP with anyone, it's not our fault that you get paranoid when we wont nap you. Those lies annoys me. WE NEVER JOIN ANOTHER TOP CONTENDERS SIDE WITHOUT BEING FORCED INTO IT.
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Originally Posted by Forest
Yes I am clearly wrong, accept my apoligies
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Apologies accepted...
Now, go take that walk.
Ps. this applies to the period i've been HC'ing. What happened before that i don't know.
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1 Jun 2013, 17:17
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Good Son
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
planetarion forums definitely need a code of conduct in regards to hate speech with all these walks being suggested
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1 Jun 2013, 17:53
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
I dont see the issue you have with this anyway. ND and FAnG have openly worked as a team for 3 rounds in a row now and CT and ND worked together for many many rounds. If it is the case that you have always been on the oppossing side to these 'blocks' you hate then maybe you are the reason. Maybe people team up to annoy you, or maybe in the real world their goals for the round match because they have like minded and competent HC teams and members and would rather get good ranks for themselves and their alliances than blow up their planets and die horrifically in battle.
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I don't have an issue with blocks. I have an issue with stagnation.
I am not a reason for blocks. I don't EVER get into politics early on anyway. What I do do, is wait till round is well under way and try and create war to avoid stagnation. It is a war game after all.
If you really believe that people would team up just to annoy me, then you are on a different planet. As someone who does like to create war, I rarely, if ever, speak for any alliance. Last round for instance I was in a joint room, helping organise something, without being in any alliance. This round is no different. But to suggest that alliances would choose their politics to annoy one planet, well, how stupid can you be
I don't have an issue with blocks. I have an issue with unbreakable blocks that stay together regardless. And that goes for any block on any side.
Fact is, we are the few left playing a dying game, and it probably won't be here as soon as another game is released.
But instead of trying to encourage players, we actively push them away by comments such as:
'Take a long walk off a short pier'
'Exile yourself, we are saving this spot for someone' and my least favourite,
'We don't play this for your enjoyment, but for ours, and we don't care if you get bored and quit (and we don't care if our 'ally' wins').
People can blame jolt for demise, or any of the other companies that ran it, or pateam, or ace or whatever, but the players themselves have to take some of the responsibilty of creating a game in which frankly, people don't want to play, and anyone who tries to make it fun or different, gets slapped back down. The forums are an extension to that.
I helped bring some guys back from the old days, and I am seeing logs daily of them being abused by people in this community who should know better, as well as in this forum. It is a disgrace.
In my opinion, of course.
DrunkenViking: I will make a full proper reply to you this evening when I have had dinner and cleared up, I want to give you a proper reply seeing as you have made the effort too
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Retard0r
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Forest
'We don't play this for your enjoyment, but for ours, and we don't care if you get bored and quit (and we don't care if our 'ally' wins').
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My favourite by far. Taken out of context ofc. Your alliances has sabotaged other alliances' efforts for a lot less reasons than what we did that round. The only difference is that i said it out loud. I will never HC in an alliance that actively backs an alliance that gangbanged us out of the contest on false grounds over the alliance that didnt. If that causes you grief, then good. Maybe your HC realises that it's a shit political move because of it(tho the repeating story that is pa dictates not).
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Originally Posted by Forest
anyone who tries to make it fun or different, gets slapped back down. The forums are an extension to that.
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I agree, but do you see this going both ways?
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Originally Posted by Forest
DrunkenViking: I will make a full proper reply to you this evening when I have had dinner and cleared up, I want to give you a proper reply seeing as you have made the effort too
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Thanks, but if you start repeating lies to actively hurt a community that has brought back a lot of old players over the rounds, then i'll flip you the mirror and keep being a prick.
You can talk about your community effort, and noone is bashing you over that. But your slandering of xVx is exactly the type of behaviour you should(in my opinion) realise is the same as that you criticise others for.
If you can't understand where i'm coming from, backtrack your posts about xVx on AD and you might see it.
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1 Jun 2013, 20:57
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Will write reply now, but just wanted to address your above point about the 'we play for your enjoyment, not yours'.
I want to clarify that was a general sentence, not a direct quote, that I have heard from many hc in many alliances, and was in no way directed at you.
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1 Jun 2013, 21:23
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
I will start of by saying nothing I ever say on these forums is lies. It may be inaccurate from your point of view, or I may be mis-informed, but I don't lie.
I will now address your points based on that...
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Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
Not true. We have warred Ult on several occations, even ef we have had avoidances with them in the same round. Some rounds we've had 3 convos between us and not interacted at all.
True, and ult has asked us to hit CT/ND/FAnG whoever every round, and i've said no to BOTH sides up until someone gangbangs xVx.
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It appears to me that when I have approached xvx, they have sided with ult (or refused to hit them, even when they were winning).
If that is not the case so be it, I can only say how I see things.
It is worth noting though, that in pa, if something appears to be like something, then it usually comes true through the effects of rumour (xvx may not be sided with ult, but people think they are so hit xvx too, so xvx join with ult, etc etc).
So even if something is not true, it is how people view it that affects pa.
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Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
Not true, i have never once posted logs between you and me to any ult hc's. After going over my logs with Zwan, i find that i have NEVER even mentioned your nick.
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I can confirm this as possibly being correct by clarifying my meaning, which reading back now I see wasn't clear.
When I said 'you', I meant xvx hc, not you as in a person.
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Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
Yes. This is personal, so i've only told a few; i started my bachelor last August, the workload became too big(100% job + full time studies and HC'ing) so i stepped down the round before xmas, xVx went quite idle the next round and since noone had time to fulltime HC, we decided to take a break till we faced another reality. My exams are 75% done by tickstart of this round and Rocky was 100% done with his exams, so we decided to restart things.
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Your reasons are your own, ty for clarifying them.
However, I think I said that ult didnt play, and xvx missed the round ult didnt play. That is a fact, right?
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Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
We will always work with people willing to help us fight back when someone gangbangs us. We have never entered a round with a NAP with anyone, it's not our fault that you get paranoid when we wont nap you. Those lies annoys me. WE NEVER JOIN ANOTHER TOP CONTENDERS SIDE WITHOUT BEING FORCED INTO IT.
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ok, fair enough
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Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
Apologies accepted...
Now, go take that walk.
Ps. this applies to the period i've been HC'ing. What happened before that i don't know.
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1 Jun 2013, 21:40
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Retard0r
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Thanks for reading what i wrote Forest.
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Knightly Protector
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Sorry Forest but your not all knowing and all powerful. You do have some incorrect information which you stipulate as being true. You are also not the savior of PA and I kind of find it interesting that you would state that you try to create war and stop stagnation considering you were part of the original triad in the early days of PA. You had your chance at glory now let others do it too and dont come on the PA forums preaching as PAs answer against stagnation and blocking in order to create a war.
If any alliance or group of alliance manage to get a lead and are dominating its up to those alliances to decide which course of action they want to follow. Its not up to you to tell those alliances what they should do or that they are stagnating the round. They fought for their lead and win so who are you to come and say that the way they are going about it is wrong. Now if its a case where there is a definite numerical advantage for instance 5 alliances coming together and working together vs 3 alliances, then you have a point. But if its a even numerical fight or close to that and one side gets the lead....good for them. They worked harder at it and were better prepared to wage a war. You coming along and saying for the good of the game you guys should fight each other....that's ridicules. They worked hard for their win so who are you, or the PA community, to say they have to now fight each other.
I am referring to last round or even previous rounds when Ult worked with 1-2 alliances to hold of the anti-ult block. Well done on their part and it forced the other alliances to work harder at stopping them. I dont begrudge their win but according to what you have posted you seem to. They fought hard for their win and outplayed their opponent militarily and politically. This game is not just about military might but also politics.
I think you need to take a good look hard look in the mirror and figure out what your motivations are and your goals are. You have quite the history in PA so trying to come off as a type of savior doesnt quite work.
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by RexDrax
Sorry Forest but your not all knowing and all powerful. You do have some incorrect information which you stipulate as being true. You are also not the savior of PA and I kind of find it interesting that you would state that you try to create war and stop stagnation considering you were part of the original triad in the early days of PA. You had your chance at glory now let others do it too and dont come on the PA forums preaching as PAs answer against stagnation and blocking in order to create a war.
If any alliance or group of alliance manage to get a lead and are dominating its up to those alliances to decide which course of action they want to follow. Its not up to you to tell those alliances what they should do or that they are stagnating the round. They fought for their lead and win so who are you to come and say that the way they are going about it is wrong. Now if its a case where there is a definite numerical advantage for instance 5 alliances coming together and working together vs 3 alliances, then you have a point. But if its a even numerical fight or close to that and one side gets the lead....good for them. They worked harder at it and were better prepared to wage a war. You coming along and saying for the good of the game you guys should fight each other....that's ridicules. They worked hard for their win so who are you, or the PA community, to say they have to now fight each other.
I am referring to last round or even previous rounds when Ult worked with 1-2 alliances to hold of the anti-ult block. Well done on their part and it forced the other alliances to work harder at stopping them. I dont begrudge their win but according to what you have posted you seem to. They fought hard for their win and outplayed their opponent militarily and politically. This game is not just about military might but also politics.
I think you need to take a good look hard look in the mirror and figure out what your motivations are and your goals are. You have quite the history in PA so trying to come off as a type of savior doesnt quite work.
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r46,r47, and r48 Ultores won only because the other Block didnt want to stagnate the round.
They were beaten and dead, but the other side didnt have "1337 deals" like TGV and Apprime had last round to stick together even though all the planets in top100 were TGV/Apprime.
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2 Jun 2013, 09:31
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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soooo.... a 30 man Ult tag will outscore a 60 man ND tag
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and since he is a genius :
no utlores wont have a full tag they will have around 30
to summarize forest u know shit
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Everything you've said in this thread is wrong.
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owned by facts.... gotta love 'em
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two ultores wont have a full tag
4 stfu
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1 down, will keep thread updated as and when I am proved right
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2 Jun 2013, 09:59
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
Amusingly, it's actually my alliance joining them that made your prediction possible. Heh.
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2 Jun 2013, 10:06
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
your alliance is?
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2 Jun 2013, 11:37
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
r46,r47, and r48 Ultores won only because the other Block didnt want to stagnate the round.
They were beaten and dead, but the other side didnt have "1337 deals" like TGV and Apprime had last round to stick together even though all the planets in top100 were TGV/Apprime.
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Yet in all these things you say you 'naughty alliance' was still in the minority numerically when battles were waged. There is nothing the rules of the game that says #1 and #2 has to attack each other just because they are in those positions. Really get a better allaince or better players and beat them instead of whinging that they beat you because they are just better at the game than you!!
Forest, mz is in Fighting Irish i think, which was about 12 members. That would knock Ult back down to a 40 man tag which would but them back where peoples orignial predictions wereish. Also dont forget that Ult factor, the fact they are playing makes people want to join them wether they are planned to be a big tag or a smaller one.
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2 Jun 2013, 12:01
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Yet in all these things you say you 'naughty alliance' was still in the minority numerically when battles were waged. There is nothing the rules of the game that says #1 and #2 has to attack each other just because they are in those positions. Really get a better allaince or better players and beat them instead of whinging that they beat you because they are just better at the game than you!!
Forest, mz is in Fighting Irish i think, which was about 12 members. That would knock Ult back down to a 40 man tag which would but them back where peoples orignial predictions wereish. Also dont forget that Ult factor, the fact they are playing makes people want to join them wether they are planned to be a big tag or a smaller one.
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Numers means nothing realy, the fact that CT/ND/FAnG was able to pin down App/Ult r46 was because they were better, not only cus they were more, and the fact that xVx/Ult owned r45 was cus they were better, number means fck all.
That FAnG won r49 was because they played it more smartly, and was lucky to get the help in the end.
FAnG/ND didnt go into last round with an agreement that they would keep together no matter how weak/good the opposition was, how ever this is what TGV/App did, and i think its just bad political ethics.
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2 Jun 2013, 12:35
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Numers means nothing realy, the fact that CT/ND/FAnG was able to pin down App/Ult r46 was because they were better, not only cus they were more, and the fact that xVx/Ult owned r45 was cus they were better, number means fck all.
That FAnG won r49 was because they played it more smartly, and was lucky to get the help in the end.
FAnG/ND didnt go into last round with an agreement that they would keep together no matter how weak/good the opposition was, how ever this is what TGV/App did, and i think its just bad political ethics.
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It was FAnG/CT/TGV that pinned down Ult in r46, until FAnG decided they could let up on ult and gangup on CT with Ult, giving Ult enough air to win. It's this politics to be too eagre to gangup on your allies that cost FAnG the win (among some horrid crashes in the last week). The fact Ult won in the end should show you that it was purely numbers that kept them back and not being better.
xVx wasn't allied to Ult in r45, i distinctly remember as i was an unallied player just outside of top 100 that would join either xVx or FAnG in case they got close enough to Ult. Attacking Ult with a FAnG one night, and a xVx the other.
FAnG didn't win r49.
FAnG/ND might not have gone into the round allied, but they were the first to gangup, on an alliance that was ranked 4th and had less average roids then them at the time.
The TGV/App agreement was never meant to last the entire round, but breaking it wasn't gonna benefit TGV nor APP at any point in the round. For TGV it would just mean more incs, as ND/FAnG clearly stated they would continue to go after TGV no matter what. And App would pass TGV without hitting TGV so why fight them?
So that's 5 factual errors in what... 4 sentences?
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2 Jun 2013, 12:54
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Influence
It was FAnG/CT/TGV that pinned down Ult in r46, until FAnG decided they could let up on ult and gangup on CT with Ult, giving Ult enough air to win. It's this politics to be too eagre to gangup on your allies that cost FAnG the win (among some horrid crashes in the last week). The fact Ult won in the end should show you that it was purely numbers that kept them back and not being better.
xVx wasn't allied to Ult in r45, i distinctly remember as i was an unallied player just outside of top 100 that would join either xVx or FAnG in case they got close enough to Ult. Attacking Ult with a FAnG one night, and a xVx the other.
FAnG didn't win r49.
FAnG/ND might not have gone into the round allied, but they were the first to gangup, on an alliance that was ranked 4th and had less average roids then them at the time.
The TGV/App agreement was never meant to last the entire round, but breaking it wasn't gonna benefit TGV nor APP at any point in the round. For TGV it would just mean more incs, as ND/FAnG clearly stated they would continue to go after TGV no matter what. And App would pass TGV without hitting TGV so why fight them?
So that's 5 factual errors in what... 4 sentences?
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Round 46:
FAnG was in the lead, and CT left the "Bbock" to join sides with Ultores, trying to head for the win, instead of stagnating the hell out of the round.
Its quite amusing that you would claim it being something else
Round 45:
http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=199669
Round 49:
Erm, then who won it? I thought that the alliance that ends in #1 is the winning alliance?
http://beta.planetarion.com/history/?id=6&round=49
Why would you try look smart when you are clearly out of depth
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2 Jun 2013, 15:12
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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ahh sorry, i mixed up r50 and r49 for some reason, must've been the alcohol from last night. R45: That thread was from week 2 or 3 in the round, in week 5 xVx dropped that nap only to see FAnG nap Ult in turn. R46: CT or FAnG leaving the block in order to block with Ult, result was the same, Ult won due to the 'block' using Ult to fight eachother. And while CT might have been the first to hookup with Ult, it was definitely FAnG that agreed to a nap with Ult first.
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2 Jun 2013, 18:56
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Forest, mz is in Fighting Irish i think, which was about 12 members. That would knock Ult back down to a 40 man tag which would but them back where peoples orignial predictions wereish. Also dont forget that Ult factor, the fact they are playing makes people want to join them wether they are planned to be a big tag or a smaller one.
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I made a prediction based on my latest intel, which was true.
You said 30 members, now you say 40 members? And now you say you have to add in the ult factor?
So basically, it went like this...
Forest> Ult will be full tag and fav to win
Kaiba> haha you suck it is only 30 and you got owned by facts
(Facts reveal Ult are full tag)
Kaiba oh well that was gonna happen
And you wonder why people think you are a moron
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2 Jun 2013, 19:35
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Forest
I made a prediction based on my latest intel, which was true.
You said 30 members, now you say 40 members? And now you say you have to add in the ult factor?
So basically, it went like this...
Forest> Ult will be full tag and fav to win
Kaiba> haha you suck it is only 30 and you got owned by facts
(Facts reveal Ult are full tag)
Kaiba oh well that was gonna happen
And you wonder why people think you are a moron
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40 is not a full tag. a full tag is 60. Ultores still ARE NOT a full tag (they have 52 members).
They gained the Fighting Irish members which was 12 people (from what BlackMagic said to me). 52-12 = 40. 30 is closer to 40 than 60 (full tag) is. The Ultores factor is what happens when Ultores say they are playing 'properly'. People who nobody had any intel on appear out the woodwork and sign up. This would probably account for atleast 8 of Ultores numbers this round. So 40-8=32. 32 is very close to 30 and nowhere near 60.
I would like to make the point here that when you made your prediction on Ultores you had no clue that Fighting Irish would be joining them so your intel was screwed. The intel at the time stated that Ultores would be 30-35 members big. Again if you look at the basic maths i have prepared for you, you will see that everyone was correct at the time, except you.
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2 Jun 2013, 21:16
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
I would like to make the point here that when you made your prediction on Ultores you had no clue that Fighting Irish would be joining them so your intel was screwed. The intel at the time stated that Ultores would be 30-35 members big. Again if you look at the basic maths i have prepared for you, you will see that everyone was correct at the time, except you.
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YOUR intel at the time stated that Ult would be 30
My intel on the other hand said a full tag
Maths doesn't come into it
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2 Jun 2013, 21:23
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
In all fairness, and even if it was just a guess, Forest seems to have been right. :P
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3 Jun 2013, 00:38
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
I think there was about 35 people added to our chan before fighting irish joined up, which they did on friday i believe!
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3 Jun 2013, 03:27
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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I think there was about 35 people added to our chan before fighting irish joined up, which they did on friday i believe!
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You sound like FAnG last round
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3 Jun 2013, 03:34
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Re: Round 52 predictions!
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40 is not a full tag. a full tag is 60. Ultores still ARE NOT a full tag (they have 52 members).
They gained the Fighting Irish members which was 12 people (from what BlackMagic said to me). 52-12 = 40. 30 is closer to 40 than 60 (full tag) is. The Ultores factor is what happens when Ultores say they are playing 'properly'. People who nobody had any intel on appear out the woodwork and sign up. This would probably account for atleast 8 of Ultores numbers this round. So 40-8=32. 32 is very close to 30 and nowhere near 60.
I would like to make the point here that when you made your prediction on Ultores you had no clue that Fighting Irish would be joining them so your intel was screwed. The intel at the time stated that Ultores would be 30-35 members big. Again if you look at the basic maths i have prepared for you, you will see that everyone was correct at the time, except you.
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That is a very long bow you have drawn there
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