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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 14:52   #101
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Re: The round so far

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Considering that, as far as I can tell, nobody was really looking forward to this blockwar they didn't do a bad job. I'm surprised TGV is getting roided for one.

Haha Maxi, I don't know you but you definitely seem very neutral to me.
Of course TGV is getting roided. No-one can take on 3 alliances simultaneously.
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You can say whatever u want zhil. But it seems you have a dog in this fight..

While most ppl on this forum think of me as a neutral observer.

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it gets boring that ppl here keep blaming TGV and thrastalking them. On 1 side you gangbang TGV and then you say they are aiming for #2 because they wont backstab their only real ally this round.

My respect for TGV grown alot. I wish more alliances had such a strong leadership and put their principles first. They show dedications and dont let themself get bullied by PEOPLE who have PERSONAL VENDETTAS and are unhappy that TGV CHOOSES THEIR OWN POLITICS, NOT BUTCHER OR FOREST OR ANY1 else

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I don't even understand what you mean by saying I have a dog and I sincerely doubt most people consider that.

As for ontopic, did you not read any of my posts or did you do your usual key word search within them and make up what I wrote?

I agree with TGVs politics as it really is their only choice right now.
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Re: The round so far

well if TGV likes to win, its not the right choise ;-).

+-10% roid lost so far for TGV and they are grounded.
so either they start swinging, lose more but maybe gain some as well.
and they can say there block won ;-) \o/

GJ apprime nice played politics, if TGV stays and takes the fall for them.
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Re: The round so far

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it gets boring that ppl here keep blaming TGV and thrastalking them. On 1 side you gangbang TGV and then you say they are aiming for #2 because they wont backstab their only real ally this round.
It's actually pretty amusing. The block keeps accusing TGV of wanting to settle for second, when in reality, the only way TGV would ever come second is if the very same block that's making these accusations keeps hitting them. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy!
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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 17:32   #105
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Re: The round so far

I thought TGV had this round all but won but that was just because they hadn't faced any proper incs until recently it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if the block kept targeting them for a good while longer recent drama's with certain badd TGV HC being caught blatantly cheating and getting away with it are certain to keep people angry enough to keep going after them.
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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 17:33   #106
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well if TGV likes to win, its not the right choise ;-).

+-10% roid lost so far for TGV and they are grounded.
so either they start swinging, lose more but maybe gain some as well.
and they can say there block won ;-) \o/

GJ apprime nice played politics, if TGV stays and takes the fall for them.
It's a good thing 1up didn't let you loose on the political field.
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Re: The round so far

so just incase I missed anything , the fang/nd and friends block first hit app for not joining the block against tgv and now they are hitting tgv for not dropping their nap with app .
kudos to tgv and app for sticking with each other and not giving into the losers bad politics
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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 18:33   #108
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Re: The round so far

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You can say whatever u want zhil. But it seems you have a dog in this fight..

While most ppl on this forum think of me as a neutral observer.
noone has ever thought of you as a neutral observer.
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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 18:37   #109
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Re: The round so far

Is any of this really a surprise? This is the first incs TGV has really had in any round I remember playing ... of course they cant handle it even with the value lead of the two top valued alliances with the most roids.
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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 18:47   #110
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Re: The round so far

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so just incase I missed anything , the fang/nd and friends block first hit app for not joining the block against tgv and now they are hitting tgv for not dropping their nap with app .
kudos to tgv and app for sticking with each other and not giving into the losers bad politics
nailed it!

finally there is 1 more neutral observer, you gzambo. Zhil make notes, this is 1on1 neutral observing class.

from a neutral objective view (not u zhil), what will happen the next days?

TGV being ganged on, their only friend who sticked with them all round APP is retaling CT, making sure CT doesnt gain too much. AND that there is a price to pay for blocking against an ALLY.

APP always declined this round to join fang/nd block against TGV. Then came the carrot stick treatment. Something APP is used at. Now its happening against TGV. Its offending to think this strategy will work.

With friends like fang/nd/ct block, u dont need enemies. TGV/APP know this too well

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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 18:48   #111
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Is any of this really a surprise? This is the first incs TGV has really had in any round I remember playing ... of course they cant handle it even with the value lead of the two top valued alliances with the most roids.
Yes cos all the other alliances out there always didnt lose a roid to 200+ lines of incommings....

Care to be reminded how ND lost 15%+ for 3 days running a few rounds back... or how CT went for 21% i believe in 1 day... even Ultores would go for 8%+ a night under fire so really 4% is nothing and after 3 nights now? (2 with CT) you are still 10-15k behind us... pro block keep coming and crashing please
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Re: The round so far

anything short of double figure roid loss should not be classed as a success , as already stated in previous rds ult and asc have lost roids when teamed up on so -4%/-5% roid loss is not much to be proud off especially when you take the inevitable crashes into account .
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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 19:38   #113
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Yes cos all the other alliances out there always didnt lose a roid to 200+ lines of incommings....

Care to be reminded how ND lost 15%+ for 3 days running a few rounds back... or how CT went for 21% i believe in 1 day... even Ultores would go for 8%+ a night under fire so really 4% is nothing and after 3 nights now? (2 with CT) you are still 10-15k behind us... pro block keep coming and crashing please
Sorry I guess I was talking about this round and TGV? I would compare previous rounds but they usually fence and bottom swell so much to avoid incs I have nothing to compare it to.
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Unread 25 Apr 2013, 19:40   #114
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Is any of this really a surprise? This is the first incs TGV has really had in any round I remember playing ... of course they cant handle it even with the value lead of the two top valued alliances with the most roids.
No alliance has been able to hold their roids this round. ND even lost 8%+ to just TGV/App in one day!
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Sorry I guess I was talking about this round and TGV? I would compare previous rounds but they usually fence and bottom swell so much to avoid incs I have nothing to compare it to.
You're telling me that TGV fenced last round? What when they warred three separate allys? Hmm ok. Yankie logic I suppose.
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They show dedications and dont let themself get bullied by PEOPLE who have PERSONAL VENDETTAS and are unhappy that TGV CHOOSES THEIR OWN POLITICS, NOT BUTCHER OR FOREST OR ANY1 else
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Re: The round so far

I find a couple of points amusing.

1) No-one I have spoke to in the block have ever mentioned hitting either TGV or APP to try and make them drop the nap. They are hitting cause winning. CT joined ONLY because TGV running away with it.

2) Talk of roidloss is not accurate because normally their isnt such a big value lead of two alliances allying to round end. APP/TGV defending each other just makes it harder.

3) Kaiba saying TGV lost 4k only cause of 1:2? Then dropping same next night.

I was wrong though, I told people it would take 3 nights before we saw TGV negative because of stockpiles.

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When did I try and choose their politics?
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You're telling me that TGV fenced last round? What when they warred three separate allys? Hmm ok. Yankie logic I suppose.
TGV Fenced until the whole other block was balls deep into APP/Rock/whoever, then and only then when our focus was elsewhere did they chose to do anything.
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Re: The round so far

Why are you so concerned with TGV's past history? Yes they have fenced in the past as they had only reformed as an alliance a few rounds ago and needed to slowly build up their core.

TGV was not in a position to win in any previous round so there was no reason for them to get involved in block wars.

They did however get involved in the ptargetting of Ultores with FAnG/ND/CT/etc a few rounds ago from quite early on which seriously backfired as the 'block' left TGV out to dry. Can you really blame them for not getting involved in these block wars in later rounds?

If you define fencing as not participating in block wars, then you're an idiot. You're only being pissy because TGV didn't block with you vs Apprime. Apprime are good loyal allies, more than I can say for ND/FAnG.

TGV have leaked roids, but compared to other alliances, they are holding their ground well, considering it's 3 vs 1. If you want to compare stastics, then let's look at how ND/FAnG leaked 8%+ against just 2 alliances in just one day!

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Time to steal Clouds's keyboard Kaiba, he is contradicting himself now...
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TGV have leaked roids, but compared to other alliances, they are holding their ground well, considering it's 3 vs 1. If you want to compare stastics, then let's look at how ND/FAnG leaked 8%+ against just 2 alliances in just one day!
I think TGV is holding up shockingly bad considering its 3v4, and the TGV Block got a massssssive value lead.
They still got a good shot at 2nd though.
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I think TGV is holding up shockingly bad considering its 3v4, and the TGV Block got a massssssive value lead.
For your logic to be applied to this scenario, Apprime would need to be able to send defence fleets with the same eta advantage as sending to their own tag thus making it a 'block' battle. But when a block hits an alliance (what we're seeing with TGV/CT), the recipient has to deal with the incoming on their own.

So to conclude your little retarded opinion, TGV is not holding up shockingly bad.

I admit that TGV are losing roids daily, but not as bad as other alliances in TGV's position (infact ND/CT/FAnG lost more when they were targeted by just TGV/Apprime.)

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Yet again, another shit troll. I admit, we were aiming for the win pre-round, but since this block war started, we have no problem with Apprime taking the win.

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Re: The round so far

From where I'm sitting, TGV seems to be doing alright. Apprime would do better if their places were reversed, but TGV aree certainly not losing as many roids as some other alliances do in the same situation.
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I think TGV is holding up shockingly bad considering its 3v4, and the TGV Block got a massssssive value lead.
They still got a good shot at 2nd though.
3 vs 4? u on crack pal? TGV/APP who is the third?
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From where I'm sitting, TGV seems to be doing alright. Apprime would do better if their places were reversed, but TGV aree certainly not losing as many roids as some other alliances do in the same situation.
Given the fact they got a MASSIVE value lead, and their allies got a big value lead aswell, means that any strike against TGV will be ineffective.
They are doing as good as any other alliance would be doing in the same position, except maybe Ultores and FAnG when they were at their best.
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You mean that tag of 25 of which half (at least) are idle as ****, I'm sure they're proving to be a major problem for 3 full tags of 60
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Who made CT lose twice as many rocks as TGV today? Did FAnG and ND start hitting CT instead?
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TGV decided to move to 1x attack on CT.

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I disagree, I think tgv are doing BETTER than app would in the circumstances.

app know they would leak roids and the block know app is easy enough to roid

tgv took on the fight and bottled nothing

app hit out of taggers, sent a whole alliance AND friends at a 10 person tag and refuse to hit anyone who might do them damage (launching on ct only after ct joined a war elsewhere
they cant hit anything without lolwaving, and there is no skill in that, and cardi only has many roids because of mass escorts. lets not even mention cousins

tgv clearly deserve the win, and in a way its a shame app will win, not because of any skill but simply cause we are giving them the win
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they cant hit anything without lolwaving, and there is no skill in that, and cardi only has many roids because of mass escorts. lets not even mention cousins

tgv clearly deserve the win, and in a way its a shame app will win, not because of any skill but simply cause we are giving them the win
cardi has most his roids from initing... and who says apprime will win... you never know what cardi is capable of doing. as for his initing... HE IS DOING THE RIGHT THING!
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cardi initiated all those roids, no escorts.
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cardi initiated all those roids, no escorts.
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Nope he must have Init over half his roids at least
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I disagree, I think tgv are doing BETTER than app would in the circumstances.

app know they would leak roids and the block know app is easy enough to roid

tgv took on the fight and bottled nothing

app hit out of taggers, sent a whole alliance AND friends at a 10 person tag and refuse to hit anyone who might do them damage (launching on ct only after ct joined a war elsewhere
they cant hit anything without lolwaving, and there is no skill in that, and cardi only has many roids because of mass escorts. lets not even mention cousins

tgv clearly deserve the win, and in a way its a shame app will win, not because of any skill but simply cause we are giving them the win
Yes we are clearly an alliance known for fence sitting and not hitting anyone etc.

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fs hunter stop following me around

i gave you the win, just enjoy it, i might not let it happen again for a while
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As far as i was aware he has inited first 1800 of his roids then bonused for a further 300ish.

Initing is now a valid tactic if you are playing a 'kill' race (Ter/Xan) in a good galaxy as its easier to build value quickly and be free for defence.

Freyja and I have inited all our roids this round too.
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Cardi has inited 2346 roids this round (though that may contain the bonus). The last round brought him from 2547 to 2830 roids.
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