Predictions R16

[gzambo]

1-3: angels/1up /lch/ elysium(assuming they return)
4-6 : TGV /VGN/newdawn
6-10: ToF/Rock/Dos/another


thats as close a prediction i can make with the alliance limit lowered

edit cus i made a booboo
ty furball

[furball]

gzambo - LCH?

[Morden]

The only real prediction that can be made, will be that the winners will be pleased, and the losers will spend hours talking trash about how it was a free round, and about how they were'nt playing fully, or there were blocks involved. or they had more incomming.

It never changes.

The winners will have played the round correctly, and the losers will have made too many mistakes.

[Wishmaster]

I ve heard rumours DLR will play as alliance. correct?

[Grog]

Originally Posted by Wishmaster

I ve heard rumours DLR will play as alliance. correct?

I never put much faith in rumours I hear in between rounds.

[gzambo]

the other rumour was walldo has something planned
but rumours pre rd can pretty much be ignored?

[Proxi]

Originally Posted by Grog

I never put much faith in rumours I hear in between rounds.

You should be a politician, that was some artful question dodging.

[Wishmaster]

Originally Posted by Proxi

You should be a politician, that was some artful question dodging.

hehe, idd it was..

The fun thing is to c what people answer when u know whats correct, and they dont wanna adimt it, nor do they wanna lie.

Always fun.

[Judder]

Originally Posted by Morden

The only real prediction that can be made, will be that the winners will be pleased, and the losers will spend hours talking trash about how it was a free round, and about how they were'nt playing fully, or there were blocks involved. or they had more incomming.

It never changes.

The winners will have played the round correctly, and the losers will have made too many mistakes.

There is no right or wrong way to play the round, but there is a right or wrong way to think about the people playing. Different alliances play with different aims in mind; some play to win, some play for fun and to do as well as possible. In both cases this often clashes. But attitudes never change.

[Averam]

Hmm, everyone except Ali seems to have forgotten about reinVENted, or Veneratio as we were previously known. I think we've got a good chance of reaching the T10 - we did it before, we'll do it again.

[furball]

Originally Posted by Averam

Hmm, everyone except Ali seems to have forgotten about reinVENted, or Veneratio as we were previously known. I think we've got a good chance of reaching the T10 - we did it before, we'll do it again.

Not with the number of members I heard you're going to have.

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by Averam

Hmm, everyone except Ali seems to have forgotten about reinVENted, or Veneratio as we were previously known. I think we've got a good chance of reaching the T10 - we did it before, we'll do it again.

reinvented hasn't accomplished anything yet m8...

[Vas]

Predictions have a nasty habit of not been true for each round but with the alliance limit been low this round we may see some surprises and see how the political situation plays out. Ely's return is only a rumour at this stage.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by gzambo

1-3: angels/1up /lch/ elysium(assuming they return)
4-6 : TGV /VGN/newdawn
6-10: ToF/Rock/Dos/another


thats as close a prediction i can make with the alliance limit lowered

edit cus i made a booboo
ty furball

4 alliance for rank 1-3 ... does this mean you predict a merger? Is there something you know we don't know yet?

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Morden

The only real prediction that can be made, will be that the winners will be pleased, and the losers will spend hours talking trash about how it was a free round, and about how they were'nt playing fully, or there were blocks involved. or they had more incomming.

It never changes.

The winners will have played the round correctly, and the losers will have made too many mistakes.

Which isn't a bad thing afterall. Venting your frustration and 'anger' on AD often is good for an alliance. Because after that, all what's left is to look at yourself and realize what you need to improve/change.

And when the 'losers' complain about something, there's often a truth in it. If they whine about being outblocked, then I'm pretty sure there was a block and that the block outplayed them.

Also 'losers' is a very negative term. There is no 1 winner and 99 losers. Pure in terms of ranks there is, because the ranking system means pple wanna end #1. Only 1 alliance each round can do that.

But the ranks are just that. What matters more to me and probably others is the overall performance of your alliance on all areas and the positive trend of improvement round after round. Also not winning motives you only more to win the next time

[cypher]

Originally Posted by Grog

I never put much faith in rumours I hear in between rounds.

You and a couple of others still changed the 'siggie' on forums to DLR instead of ND... so either you should make your own alliance or you're ashamed of ND. Either way let's hope you gave up with the crap about this round not being serious as it's exactly the same as any other now except it's free so more people should hopefully join in.

[furball]

Originally Posted by cypher

You and a couple of others still changed the 'siggie' on forums to DLR instead of ND... so either you should make your own alliance or you're ashamed of ND. Either way let's hope you gave up with the crap about this round not being serious as it's exactly the same as any other now except it's free so more people should hopefully join in.

Grog's always been associated with DLR, so there's nothing new there. As for the two people on these forums who are switching to DLR, perhaps you should check facts before jumping to conclusions. Both Fish and Gate have stepped down from HC positions - hence ND going into r16 with a totally new command.

[Morden]

This is AD m8, facts have never really been posted much on here, because anyone who provides too much information, is often disbelieved because they're trying too hard.

Often better to post a few choice words which encourage other people to be curious enough to find the truth for themself.....

[furball]

You're correct, people believe some ridiculous things sometimes.

I just would have thought cypher could do better

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by furball

You're correct, people believe some ridiculous things sometimes.

I just would have thought cypher could do better

Nonetheless, the general perception of ND is that DLR is the quality BG inside ND. It wouldn't be the first time if a BG decides to play solo (Hydra, Angels*) ...

* Angels however was founded as a BG, joined an alliance and later decided to play as an alliance. Hydra for example was a loyal BG inside an existing alliance. Just wanted to point out the 2 different types of BG's

[Veedeejem!]

looking forward to seeing how DLR will do solo. Wouldn't be the first time a succesfull bg fails to become a succesfull alliance. Sometimes it's best to stick to what you do best, but this being a free round & ND has allready announced not to be playing seriously I can understand DLR if they go solo (still not confirmed yet)

[furball]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Nonetheless, the general perception of ND is that DLR is the quality BG inside ND. It wouldn't be the first time if a BG decides to play solo (Hydra, Angels*) ...

* Angels however was founded as a BG, joined an alliance and later decided to play as an alliance. Hydra for example was a loyal BG inside an existing alliance. Just wanted to point out the 2 different types of BG's

Don't get me wrong, I'm rather interested to see how ND/DLR will go into the round. However, cypher was trying to make the point by citing the signatures of two retired HCs who aren't properly playing anymore. This seems a rather poor attempt to draw interest to ND's plans for Round 16.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by furball

Don't get me wrong, I'm rather interested to see how ND/DLR will go into the round. However, cypher was trying to make the point by citing the signatures of two retired HCs who aren't properly playing anymore. This seems a rather poor attempt to draw interest to ND's plans for Round 16.

Well, I didn't quote your post to comment on your discussion with Cypher

I quoted it because I bet more pple are suspecting to see DLR step up the plate and maybe try something different. Why would be nice to see and who knows ...

[Chika]

1. DLR

Since noone put them into thier list. They are playing as an alliance.

BITE MY ASS.

[pig]

I guess its the decent ND without the flak

[cypher]

Originally Posted by furball

Grog's always been associated with DLR, so there's nothing new there. As for the two people on these forums who are switching to DLR, perhaps you should check facts before jumping to conclusions. Both Fish and Gate have stepped down from HC positions - hence ND going into r16 with a totally new command.

switching to dlr? now you're basically saying the same as me.. if dlr is a part of ND why the change ? then it would still be ND wouldn't it?
i never made any conclusions as tbh i only do that after talking to the persons and knowing facts or not.. as really i never do care much about it heh

Originally Posted by furball

Don't get me wrong, I'm rather interested to see how ND/DLR will go into the round. However, cypher was trying to make the point by citing the signatures of two retired HCs who aren't properly playing anymore. This seems a rather poor attempt to draw interest to ND's plans for Round 16.

once again if i wanted to know what they are doing i'd PM them i was drawing any conclusions... seems you are the one who did that. i just commented on the dlr siggies suddenly coming out of nowhere
and p.s. i hadn't even seen gate having it on

[Smudge]

I always thought it was nice that the staff of Docklands Light Railway decided to play Planetarion and form an alliance.

[Tomkat]

Maybe they just fancy playing the round as a smaller more focussed group though cyph. It's only a free round, perhaps they're using it as a sort of "break" from playing with ND and totally seriously?

I wouldn't read too much into it.

[aNgRyDuCk]

Predictions are like ***holes.... ogh wait, that's opinions... same difference.......

DLR will do well regardless of how they go......

amazes me sometimes how ppl form their pre round top 10.... it's all guessing and bullshit at this point......

anyways.... here's mine...

1. ZIK MULTI PLANETS
2-30. everyone else

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by aNgRyDuCk

Predictions are like ***holes...

You never know how deep they go?

[Alki]

Oh wait i said the same thing last round, and got thrown into the ground, jesus maybe its just me

oh and wtf is DLR*











































*dark lords rising 'lol'

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by aNgRyDuCk

1. ZIK MULTI PLANETS
2-30. everyone else

Duck ... I'm going XAN

[[i2k]Xy]

If Irvine is playing, Angels will win this round

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by [i2k]Xy

If Irvine is playing, Angels will win this round

Then I guess it's time we kidnap his family and force him to play because otherwise there's very little chance that he's play r16.

[Gate]

Originally Posted by furball

Both Fish and Gate have stepped down from HC positions - hence ND going into r16 with a totally new command.

I stepped down before the end of round 14 mate; pay attention!

And this is the third time in a row we do the whole 'new command' thing :/

[Illuvatar]

1. Angels
2. Newdawn
3. 1up
4. LCH
5. VGN
6. Subh
7.ToF
8. TGV
9. Rock
10. HR

[Timeline]

1) angels/1up
2) 1up/angels
3) LCH
4) ND
5) vgn
6) subh
7) tgv
8) tof
9) hr
10) pragmatik / rock
11) rock / pragmatik

not sure who will win out of 1up and angels altho i think it will be closer than it was 2 rounds ago. ND i think will struggle to start with being without the DLR bg, but i can see that initiative possibly failing and as such it all going back under the ND tag and them finishing with 4th place. Tof i see being revitalised after last round and getting a top 10 again, as for rock / pragmatik...i think it al depends on how quickly rock adapts to its new command team and how pragmatik get themselves set up for their first round.

Anyways predictions are mute but they are a bit of fun..so good luck to all and lets have a fun round

[HK]

I think that the winner of the next round is decided partly by the recruitment policies of different alliances. Naturally the command staff will play a crucial role in leading, controlling and motivating the members. since the member potential of all top4 alliances is pretty much even then the HCs must do everything in their power to achieve victory. Don't satisfy with top2 or top3, always go for number one. Otherwise you'll never become top1. Then we must add a bit of human nature into formula and of course blind luck. Considering all variables and possible outcomes of different theoretical political situations I myself see Angels as the winners of round16.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by HK

I think that the winner of the next round is decided partly by the recruitment policies of different alliances. Naturally the command staff will play a crucial role in leading, controlling and motivating the members. since the member potential of all top4 alliances is pretty much even then the HCs must do everything in their power to achieve victory. Don't satisfy with top2 or top3, always go for number one. Otherwise you'll never become top1. Then we must add a bit of human nature into formula and of course blind luck. Considering all variables and possible outcomes of different theoretical political situations I myself see Angels as the winners of round16.

Though I agree that members decide the quality of the alliance, hardly any top alliance actually needs to recruit. Angels didn't add much new pple (4-5 max). Alliances like 1up have a loyal core. If they need only 50 pple then they'll eliminate those of the core not playing and then select the 50 best candidates.

I think most alliances don't need to recruit for r16, ofcourse that doesn't mean that alliance won't recruit

[isildurx]

I just hope that we can get a 'natural flow' where alliances concentrate their powers on the top alliances at all times, so that no alliance gets to big a lead so the round is exciting.

Oh and please no support planets

[HK]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Though I agree that members decide the quality of the alliance, hardly any top alliance actually needs to recruit. Angels didn't add much new pple (4-5 max). Alliances like 1up have a loyal core. If they need only 50 pple then they'll eliminate those of the core not playing and then select the 50 best candidates.

I think most alliances don't need to recruit for r16, ofcourse that doesn't mean that alliance won't recruit

I was actually referring to the future of eXilition players in different alliances. And I didn't just mean quality, I meant everything about them. How they'll be treated and assimilated into the alliance. New questions will come up like how will other alliances feel about the alliance recruiting old eX people. Will old grudges/friendships work in terms of war and peace (naps, alliances of 2 or more alliance, blocks)? Of course eX is just an example and I brought them in because it was the best example to illustrate my thoughts. Some of these ideas could've been categorized under the "human nature" part of my formula but I had to accentuate this. Maybe I was too specific and I'll try to generalize now by replacing the "recruitment policy" part with "how will the past influence the future". I'm sorry for perplexing you.

Naturally there are other ideas under this and other parts of my formula too but I can't be bothered to explain all of them to you. I've actually thought about this a lot and even though I'm no fortune teller I can still gather all the facts and variables, analyze them and come to the conclusion that Angels will be the winner of round 16. Though even this post itself might change everything according to the butterfly effect and the chaos theory, even change who will win the round or when will the next world war break out. But I still like to see mathemathical chaos in everything and with known variables we can still calculate the odds of something happening.

[Smudge]

1) 1up
2) ND
3) Angels
4) VGN
5) LCH
6) ToF
7) HR
8) Pragmatik
9) Rock
10) Orbit
11) TGV

[LeeAdama]

ToF is gonna make a big come back this round, and all you other allys won't strike it lucky with a coup now :-). That being said, I think it will be either angels or ND in the top spot, but who knows with the new stats. Gonna be a bit touch-and-go for a while

[Cocteau]

Originally Posted by HK

Naturally there are other ideas under this and other parts of my formula too but I can't be bothered to explain all of them to you. I've actually thought about this a lot and even though I'm no fortune teller I can still gather all the facts and variables, analyze them and come to the conclusion that Angels will be the winner of round 16. Though even this post itself might change everything according to the butterfly effect and the chaos theory, even change who will win the round or when will the next world war break out. But I still like to see mathemathical chaos in everything and with known variables we can still calculate the odds of something happening.

OMG HK!

Please dont forget margin of error and waste probability - of the remote percentile that i will eat something that have bacon this lunch

[Sjor]

Originally Posted by HK

I was actually referring to the future of eXilition players in different alliances. And I didn't just mean quality, I meant everything about them. How they'll be treated and assimilated into the alliance. New questions will come up like how will other alliances feel about the alliance recruiting old eX people. Will old grudges/friendships work in terms of war and peace (naps, alliances of 2 or more alliance, blocks)? Of course eX is just an example and I brought them in because it was the best example to illustrate my thoughts. Some of these ideas could've been categorized under the "human nature" part of my formula but I had to accentuate this. Maybe I was too specific and I'll try to generalize now by replacing the "recruitment policy" part with "how will the past influence the future". I'm sorry for perplexing you.

maybe u see Anlgels as weakest top4 ally than for not taking any exils in even if i would love to get Stoom and u ofc

[Alki]

indeed it was a shame to have to reject stoom and nitina, would of been awesome additions, but come PAN we know where there loyalities lie;(

[noah02]

I know Exil aint around this round ( bit disapointing tbh ) but will they have there lil BG again hoping between different alliances through the round again?

[HK]

Originally Posted by Sjor

maybe u see Anlgels as weakest top4 ally than for not taking any exils in even if i would love to get Stoom and u ofc

i'm overrated, i doubt i'll even scan for anyone even tho i was supposed to. tho i did end up top18 size rank in r15. i think i've quit pa. that is how i've somehow managed to achieve some sort of neutrality and clear thinking and i'm not doing maximillian-style posts any longer

Originally Posted by noah02

I know Exil aint around this round ( bit disapointing tbh ) but will they have there lil BG again hoping between different alliances through the round again?

that's almost as cute as those 1up/angel united battlegroup conspiracy theories which were speaded in eX in the beginning of r15.

[Stoom]

Originally Posted by noah02

I know Exil aint around this round ( bit disapointing tbh ) but will they have there lil BG again hoping between different alliances through the round again?

Alot of eX members want to play this round, but without command there's not much to do about it. And for the BG, well all I can say is why haven't I been invited yet (if there is one)?

Oh and I heard a bunch of new ally's coming from other games over to pwn Angels and 1up :eek:

[pig]

why dont you get members to step up and form a new command?