Planetarion Forums - Official [LDK] announcement

Drvar · 30 Jul 2003, 14:57

good luck lrytas and zerocore

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its really obvius who the bitter people who play like **** are in this thread

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RealJames · 30 Jul 2003, 15:42

Good luck with RL guys.

The question begs, who will we all hate now? Any volunteers?

Jezz84 · 30 Jul 2003, 15:44

i nominate IPC
no1's ever really hated them just pittied them

Chaos · 30 Jul 2003, 17:05

damn... and I wanted soo much to gloat when LDK didn't come close to winning next round. as they wouldn't have had enough money to pay for all their bot.. err. I mean "Escort" planets.

this actualy annoys me.. now LDK can just.. rest in peace. on top. instead of being laughed at as they try to explain why they didn't win r10.

ohh.. well.. I guess it's kinda good news.. but.. I doubt Lord Rytas and Zerocore was the one doing the actual cheating.. soo. we're prob going to see more "escort" planets next time there's a free round.

normaly. I would just have said "too bad to see another alliance die.. but. rl comes first. gl guys"

but in this case.. I'll just say "good F...ing riddance"

Wrath of Azure · 30 Jul 2003, 17:36

some people are bitter :eek:

Thanks for 0wning us in 9.5, was fun

I wonder if any other alliances are able to step up to the plate in rd 10 being a 'proper' round.

JonnyBGood · 30 Jul 2003, 17:37

Personally I see this as one more step into the sea of alliance mediocrity with the departure of an alliance who really played the game the way it should be, regardless of supposed methods, but ah well. To everyone who attacked ldk in this thread you disgust me. Nobody believes your act. Good luck to lrytas and zerocore anyways.

HobbieRogue4 · 30 Jul 2003, 17:43

Ciao.

nORB · 30 Jul 2003, 17:45

Leaders have only one way - down. Or ... retire.

I wanna announce taht i'm leaving too. But who cares

And would be nice to bash zerocore if he'll play next round

All i can say - LDK was cool

Scorpio · 30 Jul 2003, 18:17

hmmmmm
where to go now?

or quit as well?

WipeOut · 30 Jul 2003, 18:18

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Originally posted by Preach
Wipey, LDK has plenty of capable command staff, but that doesnt mean they are capable of contuining to run LDK as it was in R9.5. When the 2 main HC decide to move on with their real-life, the gap that is left for the new HC to fill can sometimes just be too great (their political connections, etc, etc...). Besides, new HC can sometimes have a completely different idea on how to run an alliance than that of the original HC. So its not a bad excuse, its an honest reason for disbanding and a good one at that.

Let us take an example: NoS. In round 10, NoS will be facing its first round without the most influencial leader it ever had: Dingo. Did he shut down NoS? Nope, he trusted it to the capable hands of his fellow command members.

Another example: Fury. Did Fury disband after Sid left? Nope, it continued with Cryptic as leader, and has done quite well after that point (ok, we could argue about this).

What I am trying to say is, that it is a damn shame that LDK disbands, where it is one of the most prefessional alliances we had left in this current universe. I think Lrytas and zerocore should at least give other faithful members a chance to sail the ship after their departure. While LDK was scarred by cheating and CC abuse, it is inargueably, one of the best alliances around, ever.

So following this logic, there must be more reasons for LDK not proceeding as an alliance, and my guess is: money (or the lack thereof).

All in all, I think it is a loss seeing LDK depart once again.

Banned · 30 Jul 2003, 18:18

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Originally posted by JonnyBGood
Personally I see this as one more step into the sea of alliance mediocrity with the departure of an alliance who really played the game the way it should be, regardless of supposed methods, but ah well. To everyone who attacked ldk in this thread you disgust me. Nobody believes your act. Good luck to lrytas and zerocore anyways.

Quoted for truth.

HobbieRogue4 · 30 Jul 2003, 18:26

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Originally posted by WipeOut
So following this logic, there must be more reasons for LDK not proceeding as an alliance, and my guess is: money (or the lack thereof).

Not to mention finishing on top, a seemingly lack of cohesive competition, and the redundancy of this game. I'm sure the remnants of LDK's membership will develop some sort of group to fill their desire to play Round 10...

laputa · 30 Jul 2003, 18:27

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Originally posted by WipeOut
So following this logic, there must be more reasons for LDK not proceeding as an alliance, and my guess is: money (or the lack thereof).

It's arrogance like this which is pissing me off big time. Just because most LDKers are from Lithuania you think they are not able to spend 10 bucks in three months for their hobby? Do you think Lithuanians are earning 1 cent per hour or what? Did it ever occur to you that PA moved to p2p a couple of rounds ago and LDK played every single one of them except rd 9 (they did play but not as an official alliance). I leave you with the standard LDK reply: Get a ****ing clue!

HobbieRogue4 · 30 Jul 2003, 18:31

In WO's defense though, there's a difference between being "poor" and "not having money to spend on something such as Planetarion."

WipeOut · 30 Jul 2003, 19:01

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Originally posted by laputa
It's arrogance like this which is pissing me off big time. Just because most LDKers are from Lithuania you think they are not able to spend 10 bucks in three months for their hobby? Do you think Lithuanians are earning 1 cent per hour or what? Did it ever occur to you that PA moved to p2p a couple of rounds ago and LDK played every single one of them except rd 9 (they did play but not as an official alliance). I leave you with the standard LDK reply: Get a ****ing clue!

As I do not want this thread to turn into yet another 'LDK are all fking cheats and CC stealers!!!111' thread, I will not argue with you about this here. Feel free to take it to pm though.

Like I said, it is my opinion that LDK leaving this game is truely a shame, they were one of the few left that had the quality, knowledge and drive to play this game as it is meant to be played. However, them leaving, does give the contemporary alliances less of a competition, and this may just be what Planetarion needs. It is certainly more evened out on the edges now, and next round we will see who is best of the mediocore alliances. I do agree, that it is sad to see that it had to come to this.

VVV · 30 Jul 2003, 19:07

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Originally posted by WipeOut
I think Lrytas and zerocore should at least give other faithful members a chance to sail the ship after their departure.

LDK has lots of good players. But to play a planet and to run an alliance are very different things.

And I can't see anyone who could replace lrytas as HC. So only way to go - to disband.

WipeOut · 30 Jul 2003, 19:12

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Originally posted by VVV
LDK has lots of good players. But to play a planet and to run an alliance are very different things.

And I can't see anyone who could replace lrytas as HC. So only way to go - to disband.

I do not see anybody capable in replacing Dingo either, yet they try. Do you think anybody thought that Sid was replacable?

K-W · 30 Jul 2003, 19:26

I certainly wont criticize thier reasons for disbanding LDK, since Fury had basically the exact same reason and I didnt complain about that.

I think its probably a good thing for this game that like Fury, Legion and Xanadu, that LDK is ceasing to be. IF round 10 is going to work, its going to require a universe where there arent efficient allaince machines and we are all a bit freeer with how we play.

Im also sick of fighting you buggers

The cheating was what it was, no need to rehash. I certainly enjoyed fighting you guys, and was looking forward to an opportunity to hand you your arses next round, but ah well. For all I know my studies might pull me away as well.

So, to end a stupidly rambling post. Good luck on your studies. Cheers for the memories.

K-W · 30 Jul 2003, 19:30

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Originally posted by WipeOut
I do not see anybody capable in replacing Dingo either, yet they try. Do you think anybody thought that Sid was replacable?

I think the point is being missed. Certainly there are people in LDK capable of leading. There were more than definately people in Fury capable of running Fury as a top level alliance. The issue is that Sid and his c7r crew created Fury. They were Fury. A Fury without them wouldnt truely be Fury, not in quality, but in identity.

I dont know if this is lyrtas and zerocore's logic. But if an integral part of LDK being LDK is those people at the helm, then it certainly makes sense to disband when those people leave. Some remnents of LDK might even form a better allaince, that simply isnt the point. It just wouldnt be LDK. (Lyrtas, correct me if Im wrong on your reasoning.)

VVV · 30 Jul 2003, 19:38

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Originally posted by WipeOut
I do not see anybody capable in replacing Dingo either, yet they try. Do you think anybody thought that Sid was replacable?

Don't know about NoS future, we will see - I mean someone will see as I will not play

. Good luck to them.

Yes Fury had many talented players.

LDK got HC replacement once - in R6. At that moment we saw that lrytas and izverg would be able to run the alliance. They even did it better than old HC. Thanks to them.
But now I don't see who could and want to take over LDK.

lrytas · 30 Jul 2003, 19:50

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Originally posted by K-W
I think the point is being missed. Certainly there are people in LDK capable of leading. There were more than definately people in Fury capable of running Fury as a top level alliance. The issue is that Sid and his c7r crew created Fury. They were Fury. A Fury without them wouldnt truely be Fury, not in quality, but in identity.

I dont know if this is lyrtas and zerocore's logic. But if an integral part of LDK being LDK is those people at the helm, then it certainly makes sense to disband when those people leave. Some remnents of LDK might even form a better allaince, that simply isnt the point. It just wouldnt be LDK. (Lyrtas, correct me if Im wrong on your reasoning.)

Excactly. Lots of people left for good again and with new command new LDK wouldnt be like old LDK.
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Colt · 30 Jul 2003, 20:09

Sad to see you go, though the other half is happy, if u get my meaning...

gl in the future etc

The_Fish · 30 Jul 2003, 20:19

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Originally posted by laputa
It's arrogance like this which is pissing me off big time. Just because most LDKers are from Lithuania you think they are not able to spend 10 bucks in three months for their hobby? Do you think Lithuanians are earning 1 cent per hour or what? Did it ever occur to you that PA moved to p2p a couple of rounds ago and LDK played every single one of them except rd 9 (they did play but not as an official alliance). I leave you with the standard LDK reply: Get a ****ing clue!

lol, the lith I know hasnt been able to pay for himself once.

It's not arrogance by me to say he wouldnt be able to play unless someone paid for him again.

The_Fish · 30 Jul 2003, 20:19

oh and gl lrytas and zerocore

Dave · 30 Jul 2003, 20:41

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Originally posted by lrytas
I, myself will not play at all as i was accepted to the law university

Perhaps they will teach you that cheating isnt the only way.

Lord_Thunderball · 30 Jul 2003, 20:42

Cya guys,

was fun talking with zerocore this round. Sharing a gal with him is a pain in the ass.. Nobody loves him

Gl.. And LDK is always around \0/

lrytas · 30 Jul 2003, 20:57

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Originally posted by Dave
Perhaps they will teach you that cheating isnt the only way.

What for were u kicked from ecl r9 ?
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WipeOut · 30 Jul 2003, 21:37

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Originally posted by lrytas
What for were u kicked from ecl r9 ?

Imagine a guy being on trial for murder one, he shot someone right in the face. During the trial, he defends his actions by saying that he is not the only man ever to shoot another person.

Do you think the jury would think him less of a criminal due to that reasoning?

Dave · 30 Jul 2003, 21:39

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Originally posted by lrytas
What for were u kicked from ecl r9 ?

I was never Eclipse

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I was a Wolfpack Officer / ToT peon.

I was 'kicked' from Wolfpack for
1) posting negatively about them and
2) trying to move to another alliance (Eclipse, which failed)

Look whose clueless now

Som1 · 30 Jul 2003, 21:44

LDK had someone pay their account every p2p rounds.

xanadu every round, except r8 which was titans.

lrytas · 30 Jul 2003, 21:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
I was never Eclipse .

I was a Wolfpack Officer / ToT peon.

I was 'kicked' from Wolfpack for
1) posting negatively about them and
2) trying to move to another alliance (Eclipse, which failed)

Look whose clueless now

Might be, never said u r clueless, just that u were an idiot.
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ComradeRob · 30 Jul 2003, 21:47

Goodbye to LDK... it would have been nice to have faced you again in round 10, but I can understand the reasons for disbanding very well.

Dave · 30 Jul 2003, 21:48

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Originally posted by lrytas
Might be, never said u r clueless, just that u were an idiot.

Your memory isnt that good is it?

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showth...hreadid=167235

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Originally posted by lrytas
Dave for being clueless

Or didnt you write that?

Naris · 30 Jul 2003, 22:05

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Originally posted by Yeggstry
Haven't we heard this one before??

Yes we were in the same situation in end of rnd 6.

Dave · 30 Jul 2003, 22:13

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Originally posted by Naris
Yes we were in the same situation in end of rnd 6.

Pity they wern't banned.

laputa · 30 Jul 2003, 22:59

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Originally posted by HobbieRogue4
In WO's defense though, there's a difference between being "poor" and "not having money to spend on something such as Planetarion."

lo Hobbie

I took it to PM with Wipeout, probably better that way. I do understand the 'not having the money to spend on something such as Planetarion' argument but as LDK always managed to either find someone to pay for them or to pay by themselves money simply is not the reason LDK as an alliance ceases to exist.

laputa · 30 Jul 2003, 23:03

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Originally posted by Dave
Pity they wern't banned.

Since most of the closed planets last round belonged to Germans I want .de to get banned. Hell, I wouldn't miss any of them, except for Ice|work of course

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Jonas · 30 Jul 2003, 23:06

bye Lrytas. Hope ill still see you in my cahnnel now and then.

GL LDK people in RL and PA for the ones staying

-Jonas-

Scouse · 31 Jul 2003, 00:40

Noone can blame Lrytas and zerocore for disbanding LDK. Look at WP and FAnG for the reasons.

Naris · 31 Jul 2003, 01:20

When the main Hc`s decide to leave or resign for a reason, I agree with Lrytas and 120% understand his final decisions to close it down in end of rnd 9.5.
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About ppl who use old alliance Names;

Some idiots who used RB in rnd 9.5 got no right to try to live on their old reputation and use the same alliance name.
RB was great earlier, it was not a big surprise for me that they was part of the greatest powerblock in rnd 3.
No matter of what other ppl like or think about them, because I know how good they were in that rnd.

StarlockUV · 31 Jul 2003, 01:20

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Originally posted by lrytas
I would like officially announce that LDK will not continue as an alliance anymore. We had our fun this round, you had yours as well. The reason is very simple. No command left to lead this alliance.
I, myself will not play at all as i was accepted to the law university, police faculty . I am leaving my city and travelling to other one, where i will not be able to access inet connection anytime i want.
zerocore might play, but he also was accepted to the pedagocial university on informatics faculty. He is staying at his place and his inet access will remain, but he will not play with his full force.

I showed you reason why LDK is disbanded and i do not care what reason some other people will supply.

jez i been studing at uni since round 2 and been HC the entire time, it is called time management

(some might say and being slighty nutz too)

Aaranaf · 31 Jul 2003, 01:41

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Originally posted by StarlockUV
jez i been studing at uni since round 2 and been HC the entire time, it is called time management (some might say and being slighty nutz too)

he just said he was moving away to a place for uni where he couldnt usethe net as often as he would like :P

a lot of time or not, ya cant do PA without the internet :P

anyways, good luck Lrytas and zerocore. you guys always seema to impact a round of planetarion better then any other alliance/group can.

congrats on a successful round btw

Gayle29uk · 31 Jul 2003, 01:42

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Originally posted by StarlockUV
jez i been studing at uni since round 2 and been HC the entire time, it is called time management (some might say and being slighty nutz too)

The fact that your daytime is peak PA attack time helps

SPQR · 31 Jul 2003, 01:59

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Originally posted by laputa
Since most of the closed planets last round belonged to Germans

Says who?

Jezz84 · 31 Jul 2003, 03:28

who cares lets just ban all germans...
and lythuanians and romanians too
infact

make it a uk only game....

maybe let the norweigans in since the creator is a freak i mean a norweigan too

K-W · 31 Jul 2003, 04:30

There are very few U.S. Cheaters!

Dave · 31 Jul 2003, 04:33

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Originally posted by laputa
Since most of the closed planets last round belonged to Germans I want .de to get banned. Hell, I wouldn't miss any of them, except for Ice|work of course .

Even if that is true (which I doubt), its the percentages that count imo.

Far less Lithuanians play PA then Germans, and so, proportionaly far more cheat.

Lie your way out of that.