Planetarion Forums - Which is the "most powerful"

laputa · 22 Mar 2003, 16:11

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Originally posted by Morden
well to be perfectly honest this thread is flawed at its inception.

mainly because its like saying who was the best out of for instance:
The Spartans
Roman Army.
Napoleons Army.

as it very hard to judge it adjectively due to the way that they were all great in there own time but wouldnt stand a chance in hell against a modern one. simply because the levels of standard are always improving except of course this round which seems to have experienced a dark-age of alliances.

I don't see a great progress in the advancement of blocks/alliances. In fact rather the opposite is the case. Imo rds 4, 5 and 6 were the peak of professionalism and dedication. It has declined from rd 7 onwards. Round 5 Furgion + WVE would have spanked newx in rd 7 big time.
Gathering intel, as vital now as it was then, was far more difficult in rd5 then it is now. Now everybody has friends in every alliance of every block. No matter how secret attacks are supposed to be they leak within an instance. That was not the case in rd5 and much work had to be done back then to find out who is who etc.
None of the alliances/blocks now have a webpage as good as Xanandus, say, in rd 6.
I haven't seen a gal as professional as round 5 Red Bull in round 7+.

Laputa

laputa · 22 Mar 2003, 16:21

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Originally posted by Zh|l
I would probably say WTF, although FLTTV (you heard me correctly) in r6 was a good contender. I didnt rate Xeta that much, they were getting the butt kicked out of them. FoS as a block wasnt that good, they had the best political position in that round.

If getting ur butt kicked is such an important criteria why should FLTTV be a good contender?

imo owning or losing shouldn't be of any importance - it simply says nothing about professionalism, military strength, level of communication etc. Although numbers are not that important in PA they sometimes do make a difference (cf. FLTTV vs. FoS&Xeta, XE vs. FoS/FLTTV respectively)

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I still think Fury/Xanadu would have been an interesting one.

But only prior to rd7 - too many good peeps quitted the game/stopped playing hardcore after round 6.

Laputa

Scouse · 22 Mar 2003, 23:38

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Originally posted by laputa
Imo rds 4, 5 and 6 were the peak of professionalism and dedication. It has declined from rd 7 onwards. Round 5 Furgion + WVE would have spanked newx in rd 7 big time.

I'm in complete disagreement. The game keeps getting more and more professional, although it probably reached a peak at round 7, and it's still there.

laputa · 22 Mar 2003, 23:47

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Originally posted by Scouse
I'm in complete disagreement. The game keeps getting more and more professional, although it probably reached a peak at round 7, and it's still there.

can you give me some examples why alliances/blocks are more professional now than they were in round 6?

Forest · 23 Mar 2003, 00:39

Well I ahve seen RB/Fury/Legion R3 a few times but i am afraid i disagree.

RB/F/L in round 2 had total domination, to the point where RB hit the 4th ranked allaince (ICD) and practically killing it in one night, a quick destruction that may never be matched.

It was this triad that really started powerblocking, something i was once proud of, but something i now regret.

From then on, powerblocking wasnt just part of the game, but a nessessity to stay alive, and im sure there is nothning that can be done to reverse the process.

Morden · 23 Mar 2003, 00:53

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Originally posted by laputa
can you give me some examples why alliances/blocks are more professional now than they were in round 6?

he was saying about r7, tbh i would tend to agree, in r6 , FLTV lost all its dead weight and refilled there ranks with loyal dedicated members who knew what it took to survive and prosper.

r7 block wise was incredibly even, the only reason the FLTV side won (not saying they wouldnt have won, im saying it would have taken a lot longer) was because the FLTTVR command staff took several opertunities that NEWX+allies failed to act upon, there were times when had newx stepped up its offensive they could have turned the tide of the war if not shunted it.

that was probably the peak of block warfair due to the co-operation and co-ordination which was very impressive even between people who didnt exactly get on well (lo scouse ;-) )

tbh this round is a new dark age as far as alliances goes, there are no strong contenders and the majority of alliances lack any co-ordination at all thus they are considerably weak compared to some of the alliances who have gone beyong the rim : titans/fury/legion/xanadu/ldk.

Scouse · 23 Mar 2003, 01:28

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Originally posted by Forest
RB hit the 4th ranked allaince (ICD) and practically killing it in one night, a quick destruction that may never be matched.

Fiction is such a pleasnt thing, is it not?

Scouse · 23 Mar 2003, 01:32

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Originally posted by laputa
can you give me some examples why alliances/blocks are more professional now than they were in round 6?

Perhaps not so much more than round 6, but definately round 4 and 5 which you also mentioned.

Last round took a huge amount of dedication due to it being random, plus OB.

At the very, very, very least the level has remained from round 6. You can't seriously say that you think the deciation and professionalism has fell since then, can you?

Fighters · 23 Mar 2003, 04:02

FoS!

Pulsar · 23 Mar 2003, 11:18

R2 Fury/Legion was most powerfull in all the rounds

But since t hey weren t mentioned here (only starting from r3 it appears?)

I would go with Furgions of R3, allied with RB.

They were the hardest block i had to go against as of yet :O

BLACK_OPPS · 23 Mar 2003, 14:58

the first triad of rnd 2 Fury legion rb

arse im agreeing with forest

could call rnd 2 BT a powerblock of sutch had enough members heh

BLACK_OPPS · 23 Mar 2003, 15:01

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Originally posted by laputa
I don't see a great progress in the advancement of blocks/alliances. In fact rather the opposite is the case. Imo rds 4, 5 and 6 were the peak of professionalism and dedication. It has declined from rd 7 onwards. Round 5 Furgion + WVE would have spanked newx in rd 7 big time.
Gathering intel, as vital now as it was then, was far more difficult in rd5 then it is now. Now everybody has friends in every alliance of every block. No matter how secret attacks are supposed to be they leak within an instance. That was not the case in rd5 and much work had to be done back then to find out who is who etc.
None of the alliances/blocks now have a webpage as good as Xanandus, say, in rd 6.
I haven't seen a gal as professional as round 5 Red Bull in round 7+.

Laputa

erm totaly disagree intel has become easer but the proffesinalism got to its peak end or rnd 6 start of rnd 7 started disapateing end of rnd 7 quite qucickly with the disbantion of the older alliances

and btw Xans page in rnd 7 still had vital flaws immo
and unless ya seen all alliances webbys i dont think ya can comment

Petru · 23 Mar 2003, 15:12

Round 3 Furgion was head and shoulders above the rest.

I can't comment on round 3 Fury, but Legion at that time was ... awe inspiring, nothing short of breath taking in efficiency and power. Nothing has come close to that level of power-presence since.

laputa · 23 Mar 2003, 15:46

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Originally posted by BLACK_OPPS
erm totaly disagree intel has become easer but the proffesinalism got to its peak end or rnd 6 start of rnd 7 started disapateing end of rnd 7 quite qucickly with the disbantion of the older alliances

Exchange rd 4 by rd 7 and we are on the same terms; I don't see a 'total disagreement'.

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Originally posted by BLACK_OPPS
and btw Xans page in rnd 7 still had vital flaws immo
and unless ya seen all alliances webbys i dont think ya can comment

Tell me a better one! The only 'vital flaw' an alliance webby can have is that it is not protected from abuse; which wasn't the case with Xan's webby.

BLACK_OPPS · 23 Mar 2003, 15:47

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Originally posted by laputa
Exchange rd 4 by rd 7 and we are on the same terms; I don't see a 'total disagreement'.

Tell me a better one! The only 'vital flaw' an alliance webby can have is that it is not protected from abuse; which wasn't the case with Xan's webby.

lol

no website is protected from abuse there is allways a way ta

BetrayerOfHope · 23 Mar 2003, 15:50

xeta but well i'm based

laputa · 23 Mar 2003, 15:52

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Originally posted by BLACK_OPPS
lol

no website is protected from abuse there is allways a way ta

doh. if you wanna play kindergarden, fine. had expected more from you though.