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Unread 7 Apr 2010, 23:53   #101
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Apprime may be in a r32 Ascendancy position - best planets which allow them to dominate but ultimately lacking the numbers and the capacity to get enough roids to win on score.
Ascendancys dominance of the top rankings was merely a result of a huge block pounding on apprimes top planets all round long. This allowed ascendancy to claim top ranks, but ultimately lacking the quality to get enough score to win alliance. A 50 man alliance with little incs and superior quality should easily overcome a 65man alliance fighting the universe dont you think?
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Ascendancys dominance of the top rankings was merely a result of a huge block pounding on apprimes top planets all round long. This allowed ascendancy to claim top ranks, but ultimately lacking the quality to get enough score to win alliance. A 50 man alliance with little incs and superior quality should easily overcome a 65man alliance fighting the universe dont you think?
As a few of us took the trouble to try and work out what would happen if we went for the win, no. We'd have been outcapped by at least one alliance either side in terms of total number of roids for the alliance, simply because of the number of fleets we had and the number of roids available to cap. This is exactly the position Apprime may find themselves in.

There are other issues that can be covered such as why Apprime made themselves such a massive target, how we put ourselves in such a good position politically and how our general play was superior, but these aren't relevant to this topic.
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Apprime may be in a r32 Ascendancy position - best planets which allow them to dominate but ultimately lacking the numbers and the capacity to get enough roids to win on score.
Unless they get afew shipjumpers
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As a few of us took the trouble to try and work out what would happen if we went for the win, no. We'd have been outcapped by at least one alliance either side in terms of total number of roids for the alliance, simply because of the number of fleets we had and the number of roids available to cap. This is exactly the position Apprime may find themselves in.

There are other issues that can be covered such as why Apprime made themselves such a massive target, how we put ourselves in such a good position politically and how our general play was superior, but these aren't relevant to this topic.
I believe the superior alliance won round 32, and there should be no doubt about it! You say you would have been outcapped anyways, and you seem to take it for granted that Ascendancy would have won if they had a few more members. Whatever you come up with, the rankings dont lie, and 3 other alliances beat you guys. Despite having no help from other alliances, Apprime pulled off the roundwin in r32, a ****ing strong win that should leave no doubt about the superiority! Its just too easy to come here rounds later and pretend you could have changed this. Simply because you didnt.

To me it looks like you personally have a problem accepting that Apprime is a dominating alliance, and it has knocked Ascendancy down from the throne. Why else would you be using an example, that serves no purpose in the discussion, and is written in a way to make it look like Ascendancy was the dominant alliance of round 32?

You piss on our effort, but you do it out of poorly hidden envy, and the fact you are incapable of walking the walk. So its all good!
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You piss on our effort, but you do it out of poorly hidden envy, and the fact you are incapable of walking the walk. So its all good!
I assume everyone is laughing at this bit. Let me just add my own point as well.


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Re: Round 36 predictions

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To me it looks like you personally have a problem accepting that Apprime is a dominating alliance, and it has knocked Ascendancy down from the throne. Why else would you be using an example, that serves no purpose in the discussion, and is written in a way to make it look like Ascendancy was the dominant alliance of round 32?

You piss on our effort, but you do it out of poorly hidden envy, and the fact you are incapable of walking the walk. So its all good!
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I would hereby like to announce that Ascendancy will be taking matters into our own hands (as one should) and will level every fence gal we find that we have time to level.


Fear the reaper mother****ers.
Not as funny as this one though jonnyboy!!
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Not as funny as this one though jonnyboy!!
No, I'm pretty sure you accusing one of the first people to ever beat furgion of not being able to walk the walk is way funnier.
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No, I'm pretty sure you accusing one of the first people to ever beat furgion of not being able to walk the walk is way funnier.
Yeah, he did something useful in round 6 which made some impact on the round. All credit to him for making an impact. This has absolutely nothing to do with round 32, or any later rounds for that matter. There has been a lot of talk from his side the last rounds, but thats it.
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Yeah, he did something useful in round 6 which made some impact on the round. All credit to him for making an impact. This has absolutely nothing to do with round 32, or any later rounds for that matter. There has been a lot of talk from his side the last rounds, but thats it.
This actually has nothing to do with the fact that your original point was wrong, and retarded to boot. I don't really know, or care, what you're ranting on about now so I'll just say "okay".
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I'll just throw this in as it seems relevant

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If people want to talk about me, do it in pm or maybe create a thread "Lokken: is he shit?" but really it's not relevant to this discussion.

If things stay as they are I'll go for Vision to win.
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If people want to talk about me, do it in pm or maybe create a thread "Lokken: is he shit?" but really it's not relevant to this discussion.
I'm pretty sure it's all covered under the general Ascendancy Discussions heading to be honest.

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not to forget ND who won twice because the top contenders were too busy fighting eachother.
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Apprime may be in a r32 Ascendancy position - best planets which allow them to dominate but ultimately lacking the numbers and the capacity to get enough roids to win on score.
you might be right in this one, I was just checking my score gains.. and you get almost zero score by hitting other top20 players when your in top20, there's no way to gain the lead in score enough fast unless you start fc:ing people to kill value/score.. and fc:ing is hard.

Anyways have to admit if score is the measure of win round, apprime will have hard time getting it even if they got invidually best setup for this round.. Seriously wtf is with the fail fortresses in all the other alliances... honestly where on earth did people get in their heads fortress is a win strategy vs competant opponents.

It's a bloody death trap.. maybe people learned it from this round, dunno why the lesson wasn't learned already.. Everyone of oldies can tell it ain't so easy, and even then it's more about hoping the BC trying to crack yer defence doesn't have crack players on he's list who can do the required manouvers to break that allys' defence and eat up the fortress.
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Re: Round 36 predictions

My post may have been about statistical difficulties by making historical parallels rather than crapping on someone's capability, yes.

Doesn't seem to have been taken that way though
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Re: Round 36 predictions

Lets predict something:

#1 Vision
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I dont think anyone can stop Vision, they have worked hard for this chance since round 32/33 and they ****ing deserve it. Asc and Apprime will get the 2 following ranks purely based on experience and durability.
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i predict light won't manage to finish the round in the alliance she started in.
fail!

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vsn will pwn, light will bug me/us all! Cardi will piss at least 10 people off. 1 rollback as we're due for one. 4 man bp's!! Please?
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i predict that, for the first time in a long time, something truly unexpected will happen and neither ascendancy nor apprime will win the round.
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i predict vsn will win next round.
Nd/euph/ct will come in the next 3 ranks
3 out of 4, not bad!

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lets predict something:

#1 vision
#2 asc
#3 apprime

i dont think anyone can stop vision, they have worked hard for this chance since round 32/33 and they ****ing deserve it. Asc and apprime will get the 2 following ranks purely based on experience and durability.

1 out of 3, but the correct one was ****ing deserved!
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Re: Round 36 predictions

I put up a summary of the round on the pawiki if anyone is interested. If anyone has anything to add to it please do so.
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Re: Round 36 predictions

sums it up perfectly... gd summary
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I put up a summary of the round on the pawiki if anyone is interested. If anyone has anything to add to it please do so.
I'll add later on some views, as it's missing the POV from ND:ers.

Basically just going to add there, that VSN got a way after apprime started supporting them vs us and the fact VSN planets outside the APP/VSN galaxies runned out of roids.. and the roids where in the protected fence galaxies what ND as a community alliance can't hit so that was basically when the fighting stopped, and I stopped running a bg aswell.. we where about 1/3-1/4 of ND's roid gains what where visible in sandman with our little group of 7-8 people.

Anyways crappy round politics wise as one alliance had almost zero incomings until the last few days of round and even then it was because they attacked their own allies.

Maybe players will be bit smarter in future but doubt it.. they have had over 20 rounds of pax to evolve but.. they always fail to see the long term effects.
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I'll add later on some views, as it's missing the POV from ND:ers.

Basically just going to add there, that VSN got a way after apprime started supporting them vs us and the fact VSN planets outside the APP/VSN galaxies runned out of roids.. and the roids where in the protected fence galaxies what ND as a community alliance can't hit so that was basically when the fighting stopped, and I stopped running a bg aswell.. we where about 1/3-1/4 of ND's roid gains what where visible in sandman with our little group of 7-8 people.

Anyways crappy round politics wise as one alliance had almost zero incomings until the last few days of round and even then it was because they attacked their own allies.

Maybe players will be bit smarter in future but doubt it.. they have had over 20 rounds of pax to evolve but.. they always fail to see the long term effects.
Dont touch it. Noone wants to read your whine about how much you think apprime or vision ruined the round, or how awesome your little group of people was. The harsh reality is that your alliance gave up after 4 days of socalled fighting, and you personally gave up after Apprime roided you. Buhu, suck it up, and dont ****ing touch anything on the wiki unless its relevant.
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