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Unread 29 May 2010, 01:09   #1
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New beginners manual & video

Well done on both the beginners manual & video, should make it easier for new players to find everything and get of to a decent start

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Re: New beginners manual & video

aye.. And it took only 37 rounds to make this
Definately a good thing. Perhaps you should explain more about how ship targetting works and how attacks are performed. Additional tactics would also be helpful and some sort of guide on the biggest mistakes you can make (like building multiclass attack fleets, sending wrong ships for defense and stuff).

Well done.. Though I'm sure the guy burps at the beginning
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Re: New beginners manual & video

Actually, the video has been around for 2 rounds now, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: New beginners manual & video

First time i've seen it though (and first time I got a message telling me to look at the manual & watch the video)
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Re: New beginners manual & video

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Actually, the video has been around for 2 rounds now, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, the game date was from January, so that makes it more like 3 rounds since it was made.
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Re: New beginners manual & video

the quality isnt really amazing, the guy speaks a bit fast also

specially if its not your native language

however its good there is something like that
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Re: New beginners manual & video

[01:22:13] <@Wishmaster> I didnt even know there was a video
[01:22:17] <@Wishmaster> HAVE IT ON FRONT PAGE
[01:22:21] <@Wishmaster> let people know about
[01:22:31] <@Wishmaster> if i dont know about it, new players wont know about it either :/
[01:22:33] <@Ace> its on the portal
[01:22:48] <@CybDev> err, it was spammed everywhere for some time?
[01:22:54] <@Wishmaster> hehe
[01:22:56] <@Wishmaster> not enuogh
[01:22:57] <@CybDev> it's gotta be a year or so old now? more?
[01:45:21] <@Wishmaster> Beginners manual
[01:45:21] <@Wishmaster> Fri, 28 May 23:45:36
[01:45:21] <@Wishmaster> New to Planetarion ?
[01:45:21] <@Wishmaster> Please visit the beginners manual on the portal.
[01:45:21] <@Wishmaster> And don't forget to watch the video.
[01:45:23] <@Ace> changed my mind
[01:45:24] <@Wishmaster> there we go!
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[01:46:11] <@Ace> now every new planet gets it too
[01:48:30] <@Wishmaster> good

I had NO idea there was something like this, and I have no understanding why this hasnt been mailed to all players each round.
Once the passport is up an drunning, all new players should get this mailed, atleast as a start before a better built in-game feature is up.
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Re: New beginners manual & video

I had absolutely no idea either although I had heard rumblings about one being created at some point.
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Unread 29 May 2010, 17:56   #10
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Re: New beginners manual & video

I've known, but I helped Ace create it so I don't count! Sorry if I talk to fast, it is a video though, so you can always rewind! It would be really easy to do more of these, I did that one in about 20 mins. I wanted to keep it to the basics of setting up a planet, but it would be easy enough to do several more advanced videos on attacking, defending, and even things like how to use the com unit.
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Unread 30 May 2010, 01:01   #11
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I've known, but I helped Ace create it so I don't count! Sorry if I talk to fast, it is a video though, so you can always rewind! It would be really easy to do more of these, I did that one in about 20 mins. I wanted to keep it to the basics of setting up a planet, but it would be easy enough to do several more advanced videos on attacking, defending, and even things like how to use the com unit.
No offense, but it also really shows that you only put 20 mins of effort into it..

It's obviously better than none though!
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No offense, but it also really shows that you only put 20 mins of effort into it..

It's obviously better than none though!
No offense taken. I only did it because Ace asked me to, zPeti doesn't pay me anything, so why spend the time to provide him with professional content?
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No offense taken. I only did it because Ace asked me to, zPeti doesn't pay me anything, so why spend the time to provide him with professional content?
Because you take pride in what you create?

"Lol, it's free" is a terrible excuse for mediocrity
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Because you take pride in what you create?

"Lol, it's free" is a terrible excuse for mediocrity
He did not say that. He said he did not get paid. Which is a fair contemplation between effort and reward. Especially when your time is scarce.

Thanks Monroe for making it. If they want it to be better let them (read zpeti) pay you a few hours fee for making it professional.
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I had absolutely no idea either although I had heard rumblings about one being created at some point.
Perhaps it should be mailed (ingame or not) after planet creation? That way everyone receives it and PA veterans can just disregard it.
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Perhaps it should be mailed (ingame or not) after planet creation? That way everyone receives it and PA veterans can just disregard it.
I'd put it in the email you send out. Most PA players ignore anything in them bar the password but I'd imagine new players actually read them.

And to be fair "why put time into something you're not getting paid for is pretty weak". I'd imagine someone out there would enjoy doing it enough to put some real effort in.
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I'd put it in the email you send out. Most PA players ignore anything in them bar the password but I'd imagine new players actually read them.
Yeah exactly. A player who played this game before will not read the mail bar the password they need for activation.

But you should also send it ingame(I assume that's possible?), not?

As I strongly doubt a new player will actually bother with this forum. When I started playing PA, I only started visiting this forum as of round 3/4 anyway.
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I'd imagine someone out there would enjoy doing it enough to put some real effort in.
Then by all means they are welcome to do so (for 37 rounds no one seems to have shown the interest). I personally don't have any desire to give zPeti my time for free, call me greedy if you want, but I look at it as a rational decision based on a scarce resource (my time). Plus given the example of our illustrious owner, I feel vindicated in simply following his leadership in the effort and professionalism categories.
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Re: New beginners manual & video

Ok I see my nick mentioned a few times

I wanted the beginners manual a long time and asked for help from the alliance reps.
Since that gave some info i went on and asked JBG and monroe to help me get this page made ( as seen below the page )

Now I see this page as a good start for something more.
The page is added to the MOTD popup so that any new planet that signs up sees that and can make use of the info on that page.

I also see monroe's remarks on future movies, that will make me go poke him some more
And if there are more ppl with great ideas or offers to help, you can mail me ingame or poke me on IRC.
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