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Unread 7 Apr 2006, 10:28   #151
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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hence it's a good investement
He'll just use your money to get drunk, hence, you're an idiot
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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Kretin was off and on in tag, we used him as score dump when we wanted to add value members and added him back in when we got lagged behind. He was of no real value for us cept in score and he knew that, in return he got to go on ally attacks etc

Horn was kicked as you may know. But he actually provided defence on several occasions.
Horn wasn't in my BP.
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Unread 7 Apr 2006, 13:34   #153
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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He'll just use your money to get drunk, hence, you're an idiot
JBG doesn't drink, he's a straight edge ... that's why he won PA btw.
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Unread 7 Apr 2006, 13:36   #154
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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So mark my words: NEXT ROUND WILL BE ANOTHER XP ROUND!
Correct, the def xp is comparatively tiny compared to attack xp, and the XP has only dropped by a sixth for attacking, so the round will play the same.

Cat def seems a little stronger, but the rest not much more so and I cant see people playing defensively or for value this round.
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Unread 7 Apr 2006, 14:09   #155
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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Correct, the def xp is comparatively tiny compared to attack xp, and the XP has only dropped by a sixth for attacking, so the round will play the same.
You didn't bother to read the rest of the XP formula and think about it?
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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JBG doesn't drink, he's a straight edge ... that's why he won PA btw.
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Re: Predictions Round 17

I dont think the losses will stop an attack round, if the player mentality is to attack and not defend.

If your entire fleet is battleships for example, you're always gonna land on that xan for XP.
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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I dont think the losses will stop an attack round, if the player mentality is to attack and not defend.

If your entire fleet is battleships for example, you're always gonna land on that xan for XP.
Primary problem: Suicide loses you xp
Secondary problem: If you build a fleet composed of pure wyverns you will be fleetcaught by every zik in the game.
Incidental problem: You can no longer realistically fake a zik. This is how, at least, I did so well last round with such low value.
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Re: Predictions Round 17

Anyone who claims they can drink JBG under the table is automatically banned from this forum

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Re: Predictions Round 17

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Unread 7 Apr 2006, 16:02   #161
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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You didn't bother to read the rest of the XP formula and think about it?
even if the XP is slightly changed the XP will own at start
its still much easier to attack than to defend, means activity means less and u dont need much skill to get the roids as alliances will be short on def fast.
each race has at least 2 weak points
having "halfreal" def ships just makes u focus on your attack fleet
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even if the XP is slightly changed the XP will own at start
Yes, of course. Unless you were to apply alternative ideas. If you don't apply alternative ideas, then XP will have almost no effect at all later in the round. Some players would prefer that, but I feel that XP has a place as rewarding players who do not give up and perform good attacks, rather than players who are just a def priority for an alliance which is good at defending...

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means activity means less and u dont need much skill to get the roids as alliances will be short on def fast.
Defence is very possible with the current statset. A single (or perhaps 2, early on) good fleet of scorpions will be able to stop the majority of FR fleets for instance. Anything more defensive would lead to stagnation and though it would probably reward activity (more than skill...), it would be pretty shit.

See round 10 and especially round 10.5 for sheer shitness. Whilst other rounds with the current setup have been far more interesting...

God round 10.5 was a piece of crap.
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Unread 7 Apr 2006, 16:31   #163
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We have faith in you Gate dont worry.. well, unless R17 stats prove to be sh1t in which case BANNAGE from PA for you ;P
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Well I'll give it a try any day. Why you guys call beer over there in the UK isn't what we call beer here in Belgium ... there's a quality (read: alcohol percentage) difference
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Well I'll give it a try any day. Why you guys call beer over there in the UK isn't what we call beer here in Belgium ... there's a quality (read: alcohol percentage) difference
I am also pretty sure Sjor would give him run for his money. The chance that Sjor is mildly intoxicated when you pm him on IRC, is approaching 100%...
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the idea that activity has zero influence on an XP round is not something i was trying to convey, i assumed you would have guessed i meant it was relative to an extent. Activity does NOT pay off aswell during an XP round as it does during a value round. tomkat is one example, there are hundereds more of inactives who got in the high ranks.
Activity as an xp whore got you higher rankings. Obviously xp was the way to go this round. Sending lots of defence fleets was not. Sending lots of defence fleets lots of times was a poor use of your high activity. See how it works!



Also nobody can outdrink an Irishman guys so please let's end this silly debate.
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id like to place a bet Jonas could out drink JBG :P
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Jonas that lush.
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Also nobody can outdrink an Irishman guys so please let's end this silly debate.
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I buy beer the previous day to last me until the pubs reopen. One day I forgot though and it was so scary the pigment of my skin changed so that a rash mysteriously spelling out the words "holy shit we're sober guys" appeared all over me.
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Yes, of course. Unless you were to apply alternative ideas. If you don't apply alternative ideas, then XP will have almost no effect at all later in the round. Some players would prefer that, but I feel that XP has a place as rewarding players who do not give up and perform good attacks, rather than players who are just a def priority for an alliance which is good at defending...



Defence is very possible with the current statset. A single (or perhaps 2, early on) good fleet of scorpions will be able to stop the majority of FR fleets for instance. Anything more defensive would lead to stagnation and though it would probably reward activity (more than skill...), it would be pretty shit.

See round 10 and especially round 10.5 for sheer shitness. Whilst other rounds with the current setup have been far more interesting...

God round 10.5 was a piece of crap.
u miss the point m8
r14 was the last round where the stats were ok imho
r10 and 10.5 it was overpowered u could kill 10k fi with 5k same named fighter and getting a lot back from the salvage
stats become more and more attack orriantated and it hadnt change much.
terran u own with either CO or Fr no matter what they have home
terran BS and de own pretty much every race
cath u own with masses of 1 class but its still best defencevise race
cath fr own all races, in combination with few beetles even a terran
other races are more or less just weak agasint all
some1 sad after 400 ticks if you are top 10 value it takes at least 2 planets to make roiding you wirth. now u get owned to easy and i dont see much skill left. But as i already said before seems im getting to old (or to stubborn to chnage) for this game. well one round left to prove me better

and about ur point making the game more interesting. its jsut more intersting cause small alliances have now far more firepower than before.
did the small allainces ever complain before that they are to weak? no
but this only leads to active ppl puitting less effort into the game and alliances vailing ppl in order to win
you will easy win by having your ppl hidden in other alliances and getting them together at end of round
having ppl hidden or usind severeal tags will pretty much do the job and stats allow out of tag def pretty much anyway
lets wait till some1 uses this "strategy"
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I buy beer the previous day to last me until the pubs reopen. One day I forgot though and it was so scary the pigment of my skin changed so that a rash mysteriously spelling out the words "holy shit we're sober guys" appeared all over me.
would be fun to drink with all u guys
but u take this to much competitive
i was in ireland they are really hard saw a girl drinking vodka through her nose to get pissed faster
the diference between the Eire way to drink and croatian is that thje Eire drink as fast as possible to get pissed
croats drink slower, also eat beside (eating is not cheating here) and try to stay as normal as possible. i have arround 200 L of Sljivovic its selfbrewed stuff arround 35-55 % at home in croatia. we live from own made Sljivovic and own made wine
dunno who would drink more but u are welcome to the next oktoberfest to join the fun
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slivovic.....
polish guyz had that last summer.
i think that all eastern europe makes it, they only give it different names.
(home made alcohool beats the one u buy :P)
slivovic(a?)for croat/polish samagon for russian/ucrainian and palinca for romanian ppl. and yes, all the western ppl that i know and drank it, got pissed faster than u could say "shitimdrunk"

edit:none of them were irish though
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scandinavian drinking culture ftw.

Drink till u cant possibly drink anymore.

Then drink a bit more.

Get in a fight and get laid.

Yay
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lol wish.
you're forgetting the final part of your homeric travesty : waking up next morning and finding out that the chick u had sex with last night gave something ud be better off without. (yes, this is directed at you)

indeed.scandinavian drinking ftw
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scandinavian drinking culture ftw.

Drink till u cant possibly drink anymore.

Then drink a bit more.

Get in a fight and get laid.

Yay
That reminds me of something that happened last night, sort of...
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That reminds me of something that happened last night, sort of...
besides the getting laid part?
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slivovic.....
polish guyz had that last summer.
i think that all eastern europe makes it, they only give it different names.
(home made alcohool beats the one u buy :P)
slivovic(a?)for croat/polish samagon for russian/ucrainian and palinca for romanian ppl. and yes, all the western ppl that i know and drank it, got pissed faster than u could say "shitimdrunk"

edit:none of them were irish though

i tested it on few irish
respect they got drunk fast, got sick, puked, drunk again
but the next day they werent really good
but eire are the best ppl in the world
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Bah, alcohol...

Luckily I do not drink that stuff at all!
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scandinavian drinking culture ftw.

Drink till u cant possibly drink anymore.

Then drink a bit more.

Get in a fight and get laid.

Yay
You forgot that you also need to puke at some point of nigth
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lol wish.
you're forgetting the final part of your homeric travesty : waking up next morning and finding out that the chick u had sex with last night gave something ud be better off without. (yes, this is directed at you)

indeed.scandinavian drinking ftw

lies! -the disease part-

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You forgot that you also need to puke at some point of nigth
Nah..but if it happens we take a mint and drink more.

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Poor european drinkers , u will not know what is a drink culture till come to spain :/
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1. 1up
2. NewDawn
3. Angels
4. Subh
5. Insomnia

6. Vengeance
7. TGV
8. F-Crew
9. Ascendancy
10. VanX

11. xVx
12. BIG
13. LCH
14. Hidden Agenda
15. Howling Rain
16. Tides of Fire
17. Daous Dava
18. Orbit
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tbh thats just as it could maybe happen, but not really a prediction
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i tested it on few irish
respect they got drunk fast, got sick, puked, drunk again
but the next day they werent really good
but eire are the best ppl in the world
pog mahone
I was in Scotland with some guys from Lithuania, and I managed to survive all nights with them for some weeks, and never felt ill. But I guess it was close quite often .

Luxembourgish drinking culture > rest of central european drinking cultures...just go to any university in Germany/France/Belgium and visit the Luxembourgish guys for proof ;D.
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1. 1up
2. NewDawn
3. Angels
4. Subh
5. Insomnia

6. Vengeance
7. TGV
8. F-Crew
9. Ascendancy
10. VanX

11. xVx
12. BIG
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14. Hidden Agenda
15. Howling Rain
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17. Daous Dava
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tbh thats just as it could maybe happen, but not really a prediction
I expect your expectations for VanX are a little high.
Tides of Fire a little low.
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1. 1up
2. ND
3. Angels



The rest aren’t important .

Who will remember or cares who ended place 6!?
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I'm pretty sure the original question mek presented had nothing to do with whether people would remember.
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Please don't encourage him. I hear that young children no longer fear the boogeyman and instead check in case MotoX is under their beds at night.


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like furball said, please let's not go down this road.

just leave it.
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I predict that all these predictions are wrong
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JBG has a 100% record on round winners so you might want to reverse that
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JBG has a 100% record on round winners so you might want to reverse that
Until last round dude. I'm so good at the internet I broke my own prediction streak
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Re: Predictions Round 17

ahahahaha broke ur own streak u suck etc.
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Desse probably had the most accurate prediction of round 16. His post originally said something like 'Ascendancy will disappoint by finishing ahead of F-crew', but I made him edit out Ascendancy as OMG NO ONE HAS HEARD OF US AND WE CAN'T POST ON AD UNTIL PEOPLE START ASKING or something equally lame.
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Re: Predictions Round 17

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Desse probably had the most accurate prediction of round 16. His post originally said something like 'Ascendancy will disappoint by finishing ahead of F-crew', but I made him edit out Ascendancy as OMG NO ONE HAS HEARD OF US AND WE CAN'T POST ON AD UNTIL PEOPLE START ASKING or something equally lame.
So you did fix the stats!!!!11111oneeleven.


1) 1up
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4) ND
5) Subh
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Re: Predictions Round 17

#1 Angels
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#3 1up
#4 Asc
#5 TGV
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