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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:16   #1
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TeamPies Winners of Speedgame

TeamPies would like to say thanks for a great speed round.

TeamPies held top rank, both in total score and average score.
TeamPies help 6 of the top ten players, R6B help 3 and Gosu had one.

Thanks to Sad for doing most of the organisation pre round, he put alot of effort and money into this speed round and deserved his top 10 spot.

Thanks to all the BC's who kept attacks running throughout, you guys did a great job.

Some of the group became inactive through the round, but that didnt stop the rest from putting in the effort, and in the end it payed off.

It was a well deserved victory for TeamPies, we'll be back for future speed games, ready to pwn again
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:18   #2
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we thank our god Pies :-)

ta for blessing us
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:20   #3
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I thought team pies were known pa cheaters
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:21   #4
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Yes Joey,

WE R TEH EVIL!!!
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:21   #5
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We did not cheat.

TeamPies > *

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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:25   #6
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Thx Teampies for playing...

But plz count...
We had 20 Members and top3
You marked 40 Members yours(to me) and had 6 top10

Think that is double the size and not having #1 planet

But still thx for playing,
Thx for not breaking the nap..

BUT don't go claim victory

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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:29   #7
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congratualtions team pies for claiming to win the speed round when you didn't...

i'd have expected nothing less..
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Thx Teampies for playing...

But plz count...
We had 20 Members and top3
You marked 40 Members yours(to me) and had 6 top10

Think that is double the size and not having #1 planet

But still thx for playing,
Thx for not breaking the nap..

BUT don't go claim victory

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victory or no victory

it was close to decided to choose a winner :/
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:39   #9
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Thx Teampies for playing...

But plz count...
We had 20 Members and top3
You marked 40 Members yours(to me) and had 6 top10

Think that is double the size and not having #1 planet

But still thx for playing,
Thx for not breaking the nap..

BUT don't go claim victory

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I only mad the thread as a joke with your 'victory' thread. Having 3 flagship members is something any group could of done towards the end, we chose not to do it.

No BG can claim sole victory, it was nieve of you to think you had.
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:43   #10
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well at least i can call myself a winner too #1 planet and #1 gal
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:52   #11
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well at least i can call myself a winner too #1 planet and #1 gal
well done theseeker

u got to thank sad for that #1 position
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:53   #12
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well done theseeker

u got to thank sad for that #1 position
not only him
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Unread 25 May 2003, 23:55   #13
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not only him
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Unread 26 May 2003, 07:27   #14
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We had 20 Members and top3
You marked 40 Members yours(to me)

Thx for not breaking the nap..
there was a nap with 60 members? good i didn't play then
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Unread 26 May 2003, 07:42   #15
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there was a nap with 60 members? good i didn't play then
only 60?

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congrats teampies, congrats Seeker was a nice battle
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Unread 26 May 2003, 08:30   #16
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only 60?

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congrats teampies, congrats Seeker was a nice battle

Nah, read my story in the other thread..
|R6B| Had 20 People... And I'm sure most times we where fighting triple the size we had... There where 200 People playing so we where 10% of the universe...

The nap with "Those" 40 planets was only for the last 2,5 hours... So we had a rest....

Before that.. We only agreed to focus on 'Gosu meets Tot" we where still hitting planets of Sad\Wipeout....

And you guys sided with sad\wipeout for a moment as well... |R6B| Never started teaming up with Big blocking people...

I just don't like that... But think this will be a discussion we would never agree on...

So why do i post
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Unread 26 May 2003, 10:11   #17
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TeamPies & Militia

I know there are 2 threads already about speedgame but i want to start my own thank you thread.

[I don't see any good reason why this post can't be in the other TeamPies thread. -Leshy]

I would like to begin with saying how TeamPies or Militia Started.. TeamPied was name of a group of people maybe some of u are familiar with it contains Necro/shak/Klendau/MrPink and myself and a few others.. after the last private speed game ended we decided to make a bg for the random one together from my old gal as we played very well there.
We decided i to be the guy sorting the bg while Necro and MrPink help.
I recruited all trusted friends .. convinced people to play etc.. And we had our Dream BG The TeamPies.
Saturday came 99% of the bg online except a few which are Necro/Klendau who decided to go drinking and didnt make it to the game :P . Me and MrPink were the only 2 guys running the bg so we were a bit stressed, gosu and us decided we should work together to counter Thunder/Krush's co operation.
MrPink Had to go through the day because his pc had problems and wasnt seen till the next day altho thank you for him for making alot of successful attacks before he went.
After then i was the only HC and i was very stressed trying to play my planet , keep gosu with us, help bcs run attacks, Sort the internal affairs of the bg.
Wipeout Decided i need help and asked if i need a hand , i happily accepted him and made him hc, Since then Teampies went from better to best.
I then appointed Forest with us as HC to help out with me and wipeout.
I also appoitned dogbert HC so we are 4 now.
Me and Forest had a chan and wipy and dogbert had achan coz the old military way wasnt working
I had #teenz and Wipeout had #miltiia then we merged coz Wipeout's group did alot of work then alot of their big players gave up. so we merged used #Afterlife then i decided #Afterlife wasnt enuff in the war so i started #Arabia And we begun the last hours attacks from there. Wipeout went back to #militia and we took a few gals down in the last hours and kept everythin at bay.
Mid day Sunday Gosu planets landed on TeamPies planets supposedly by mistake, we passed that and i asked one of our members to land on them and i will say he was afk.
WE took back our roids from gosu still holding the nap.
Then Draki the gosu mil guy or whatever decided he doesnt like TheSeeker in my gal who was #1 player , Draki decided to through 60k hostiles at him, i warned draki if they land i drop gosu and their nap and i take theseeker's bg and kill them.
Draki didnt belive me and went on with 60k and failed then 100k and failed then 3rd wave he went through and dropped TheSeeker a few mil scores.
I Then declared war on gosu and gave their co ordinates to TheSeeker.
TheSeeker suggested working with his bg taking down gosu easier, I accepted and we took down alot of gosu specialy we took down Sjor ( then he farmed ) and we fleet catched meddy ( i didnt join on my love meddy as i promised him but couldnt stop it )
And We took down Draki 1:4:7 And his gal badly.
The last 2 hours Wipeout Told R&B if they wanted war we are ready but Thunder said lets finish like this with them holding the top planet spots and Teampies/miltiia holding the top gals/rest of top planets.

I would like to thank my galaxy which is:
3:5
#1 Eventh -Arc- (later TeamPies)
#2 Brian -TeamPies-
#3 Desse -R&B-
#4 blixxard -none-
#5 Martin -Gosu hc-
#6 Avlan -TeamPies-
#7 bux -gosu-
#8 Radon -Arc- (later TeamPies)
#9 TheSeeker -R&B command-
#10 Sad -TeamPies HC-

i would also like to thank gosu for being a semi loyal allie in the begining and a worthwhile enemy in the end,
I would ike to thank Krush for being meh def leeching bg for the 1st few 100 ticks.
I would like to thank R&B for being a worthwhile enemy in the begning and a loyal allie in the end.

I would like to thank also Shak for being our Spirtual Moral Officer.
I would like to thank Ogami for paying for my account.
I would like to thank Spinner for joining meh bg joining a few attacks then leaving and attacking me with dreads with no luck :P .

Also as an update for people who werent playing:

Planet Rankings:

1 D'hara 3:5:9 2363 24.470.892 TheSeeker -R&B-
2 Pretty Women 3:5:3 1708 23.138.960 Desse -R&B-
3 hei 4:2:4 1845 19.350.444 Foxman -R&B-
4 your roids 2:1:1 1638 18.476.412 Ariados -TeamPies-
5 Napalm in the Morning 3:5:2 1479 18.466.572 Brian -TeamPies-
6 House 4:2:5 1173 17.953.726 dogbert -TeamPies-
7 3 steps ahead 4:1:9 1410 17.208.666 SnowSeal -R&B-
8 Espilce :. 4:1:1 1698 16.749.408 Ogami -TeamPies-
9 a giant space robot 4:1:7 1020 15.318.916 Deak -TeamPies-
10 The Roman Empire 3:5:10 1597 14.945.323 Sad -TeamPies-



Thanx to who ever took part in any battle we were included in u gave us the fun we came for.

PS Spinner: MORE SPEED ROUNDS!


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Unread 26 May 2003, 10:31   #18
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That clears some stuff for me... Now I know what you guys where doing all weekend ')

I would like to know how many people where playing with you guys at start... And after the split.. Just curious... If you got a # on gosu as well Would be great...

Also... I was glad we kept the nap... I was to tired for new attack
You guys had 4 HC.. I did most things on myself.. ofc everybody helped where needed.. But BC'ing 20 People every 10 minutes gives u headaches...

I think we all can be happy \0/
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Unread 26 May 2003, 12:27   #19
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Cicada - take your bitter thumb from between your ass cheeks and go jack off at monkey porn or something, just please stop delivering absaloute assumption based drivvel.

Thunder - wd on your victory but don't go being picky about it - i'd love to say that it aint the victory that counts, however unfortunatley the retarded community of planetarion seem to overlook this far to often, so sadly yes thats what it is all about for most... which brings me onto the next issue.

Sorry Sad for missing the weekend, but as Saturday drew on and the intial combat was taking place i found myself less and less interested in pa. A game that i've been (and i can't think of any other word to suit this best) "Addicted" too for so long finally looked grey in my eyes.

Then came all the bickering, the ego's and the acusations that have followed me for the past 2/3 rounds of PA - so why stay? Er... probably b/c it was nice reciving some attention, heh i think a lot of ppl here are here for just that reason, just don't want to injure their pride in doing so.

I look back and i've become what i hated, someone who's sole driving force was to win, but worst was the fact that i wasn't winning and to add salt in my wound i was being regarded as a cheater.

Every round was a new accusation "Killmark has bots!! XX:XX are cheaters and do not deserve to be #1". I'd say out of the 4 rounds that we were leading you "elites" (elite ? sorry i meant ppl without social lives and leave an inprint of their buttox on their chair, seeing as they spend so long in it) only 1 (round 7) had he used a bot to benifit us directly, so what about the other 3 rounds? Was it a case of us just not being caught? Perhaps although i'm conciously aware that even if he was running a bot - the other 24/14/9 players were not in those rounds and were just fking fine players.... but alas this was taken away from them and myself so our bitterness grew and grew until finally - r9 pops up...

So what do we do? OFC decide to get back together and OFC intend to win - then we find plans of mass farming regimes - ppl spending up to and in the region of £250 for farming galaxies, this perosnally shocked me. I never knew this level of cheating wsa going in PA... what shocked me more was what followed it, when the proposal to Farm (by Killmark) came to the rest of the gal, how willing most were to abide by it, even myself agreed.

Now prior to r9 i had always frowned upon farming hated those who did it, as i knew i they were ahead of me just b/c they could afford a few planets to leech... and then it came...

Round 9 - We had a farm gal - and farmed it for roughly 2 days... Then we were caught - it was simply down to careful footing that we were not deleted - although Spinner said that if he saw 1 fleet from our gal land on that Farm gal we'd get deleted - so alas we stopped farming, never the less i was on here lying through my back teeth, and why? Pride? But pride was meaningless in this game... or so i preached.

It all boils down to how vain and proud one becomes when in a posistion that enhances one's ego, and such a posistion is rather easy to obtain in Planetarion. I was sick of not getting my top spot and i was willing to do anything - even go against what i had always preached just to see my gal finnish #1.

And i'd say we had of deserved it had we not farmed that first day or two... but now i just look back in disgust at this game, at this community and at the way things are...

This is why ladies and gents this speedgame was my last ever venture in this realm and it ended very much the way my career in this game has been heading..... flat.

I hate what PA made turned me into..... but more to the point it did it to me and its done it to many others... this community is retarded and arrogant just its too proud to stand up and admit it.

Well shallow victories is all thats to be had from winning these games, there's no skill, no strategy just fk whoever it takes to get there and cheat at every turn you can.

Enjoy r9.5, r10 and however many more roudns pa goes on.

I won't be returning to this place and i shall not blabber on about who rocks and who i fluffle i've probably bored u enough.

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The sad truth is, to even stand a chance at winning Planetarion you need to farm. Not something I my self am willing to do, but I must admit it is somewhat annoying to have all these 'l33t' players swanning about thinking they are excellant players when they have farmed, taken 'friendly' targets, been in the 'winning' alliance all round. I hate to shatter their ego's but that in my eyes does not make you 'l33t'.

The only round of Planetarion which I can say no one has farmed or cheated in would have to be the i15 speedgame, which because of that was a lot of fun
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Unread 26 May 2003, 12:45   #21
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I am pretty ****ing sure that neither of the top3 did farm their way up there during the last speedround.
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Unread 26 May 2003, 13:04   #22
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because at pt 1257
I HAD:

Asteroids (1337 total)

Metal 647 Crystal 501
Eonium 176 Uninitiated 13



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Also, I would like to clear a point, Yes R&B did win, but not alone They wouldnt have won if we wanted as Thunder knows.
Also We didnt have 40 members, we begun with 34 + alot dropped too early so we went on with about 25 players, then We begun recruiting a few players to cover enuff attacks.
We ended with 28 Players.
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About farming am sure the 2 of the top3 form my gal didnt farm dont know about the 3rd, but am pretty sure Martin/Sjor and other big gosu players farmed the other gosu who gave up, Martin stopped when we warned him tho.
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I don't want to keep posting and posting.. But this I NEED to add....

I had 19 people at start.... There where 21 Nicks added to our channel #TINQ
19 Players
Yama <-- Who made the banner but didn't play
AcidRain <-- Who played an account together with Schneider (I didn't knew at start they would play this way)

I kicked Schneider and AcidRain later cause cheating in a speedround is even lower then cheating in normal planetarion.
Zany had to quit, cause someone died in his family <-- Nobody took over his account.
Newt had to leave early and said "shall I give my account to somebody else" I replied "No we don't cheat" so he didn't.

All other 17 players played there own account, IF they account shared they did it without my knowledge and without any support of our battlegroup, cause they where not in our channels.. So couldn't ask for defence or could attack with us...Also almost all people where active for almost the whole day in our channels. So it would suprise me if someone else played somebody's account.

Another thing to add. We did not have ANY farmplanets..... We did not farmed our own players for roids... NOT even those two planets who stopped playing with valid reasons.
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but am pretty sure Martin/Sjor and other big gosu players farmed the other gosu who gave up, Martin stopped when we warned him tho.
after the first break on day 2 we had 5 ppl in top 11 and all universe against us, 4 BG at all
we decided to cover only the top planets.
ur plan as we heard was to kill our smaller planets first what u planned to start with the attack on 4:2:9. As the attack was 7 ticks after the ticks started again i placed the roids on a safer place my planet
i got arround 200 roids and it wasnt farming only a last try to fight against teenwar 3

rest of my roids i got "legaly" and i had 33% more than any1 else in universe

But im happy that now u fight a bit who won the round. If u nap with 70 % of the active BG's than live with it to only get a peace of the cake
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OMG!
HOW UTTERLY PATHETIC!!

BG's in a speedgame... HAHAHAHA!!

play it the way it should be fs, cluster vs cluster, galaxy vs galaxy, player vs player.

BG's... what a joke!
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yes lets play planetarion the way it should be! no powerblocking, just aliance vs aliance, etc...


Wake up Donnie... uhhh scorpion....


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rest of my roids i got "legaly" and i had 33% more than any1 else in universe
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Thx Teampies for playing...

But plz count...
We had 20 Members and top3
You marked 40 Members yours(to me) and had 6 top10

Think that is double the size and not having #1 planet

But still thx for playing,
Thx for not breaking the nap..

BUT don't go claim victory

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And you are entirely aware that you could of been beaten.

But well played anyway.
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OMG!
HOW UTTERLY PATHETIC!!

BG's in a speedgame... HAHAHAHA!!

play it the way it should be fs, cluster vs cluster, galaxy vs galaxy, player vs player.

BG's... what a joke!
it was random? Why not have bg's more fun, then its almost player vs player, cluster vs cluster is boring

u can almost call an bg an alliance...
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Then Draki the gosu mil guy or whatever decided he doesnt like TheSeeker in my gal who was #1 player , Draki decided to through 60k hostiles at him, i warned draki if they land i drop gosu and their nap and i take theseeker's bg and kill them.
Draki didnt belive me and went on with 60k and failed then 100k and failed then 3rd wave he went through and dropped TheSeeker a few mil scores.
I Then declared war on gosu and gave their co ordinates to TheSeeker.
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Thanx a lot sad for only telling the half truth...
but some ppl never change.. do they sad ?


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if u were in Sads position u can easily do something to calm things down or not
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well i dont agree with what draki wrote about me, but what does it change ? i can point out what i think is wrong, but ill just let it be.
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well i dont agree with what draki wrote about me, but what does it change ? i can point out what i think is wrong, but ill just let it be.
i do not care how u think about it.
the deal was made with sad!

and plz.. dont tell me u expected whole gosu nap if u agreed not to hit those ~ 5 ppl on meddies lan

and if u still stick to it ...
why cant we simply roid u then ? well yeah .. coz sad fked it up

isildurx.. noticed .... wont happen again. thats something i can swear.
u can play 2-4 rounds with him... he still drops u for 5 mins.
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OMG!
HOW UTTERLY PATHETIC!!

BG's in a speedgame... HAHAHAHA!!

play it the way it should be fs, cluster vs cluster, galaxy vs galaxy, player vs player.

BG's... what a joke!
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OMG!
HOW UTTERLY PATHETIC!!

BG's in a speedgame... HAHAHAHA!!

play it the way it should be fs, cluster vs cluster, galaxy vs galaxy, player vs player.

BG's... what a joke!
Whats so lame about BGs in a random speedgame ??

Random speedgame is alot more about friends then alliances so whats wrong with friends making BG in such a universe ??
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Unread 26 May 2003, 20:15   #37
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we all know sad don't we ?


I can't believe the (faked?) innocence and naievity of people who've 'lost'.

You play to win, if you see someone with power in a top gal, you take that gal down. Thus desse should've killed his own gal in the start.
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Whats so lame about BGs in a random speedgame ??

Random speedgame is alot more about friends then alliances so whats wrong with friends making BG in such a universe ??
Nothing wrong with playing with some friends. But keep that group small...
I've played (PA clones) speedgames (and won) while playing with only 3 or 4 friends out of 200-300 players. By no means did this group come close to 20% of the player-base. 20% (40 out of stated 200 players) is just ridiculous!
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No BG was 40 players, the figures were stretched. I can give you a list of people playing if you want to know so much.
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Whats so lame about BGs in a random speedgame ??

Random speedgame is alot more about friends then alliances so whats wrong with friends making BG in such a universe ??
If there was no battle groups then the true best gal would win.
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If there was no battle groups then the true best gal would win.
accually the gal that got most luck and got best ppl would win...
i dont see any achievment in this ...

then we wouldnt need to play ... just analyse the gals and u normaly got the best gal by memberbase ..
maybe there are 2-3 gals that could be equal but normaly 1 gal has most of the best players ...

its the #1 planet that matters in a random round .. not the gal.
gal is 50% luck ... #1 planet is not
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If there was no battle groups then the true best gal would win.
ppl always say random shows more what kind of skills you have... thats such utter ****, you are more then ever depend on the activity of your galmates (Oreo, thx for NOT showing up.... and our #4 and #10...)

so the true best gal is not about skill but about activity as peons can be told what to do.

speedgame is playing with friends for me, and it's even more fun playing on a lan. what is so funny with player against player or even gal against gal? I could play every ordinary game then. it's about the fun or organising things together (erm, this round it was mainly just sitting next to Thunder) and win and loose together.

anyway, my point it, there is no setting of pa in which the true best player/gal definately is going to win. luck is most important. at least this is my experience

*addition: TheSeeker definately deserved to win \o/*
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we all know sad don't we ?


I can't believe the (faked?) innocence and naievity of people who've 'lost'.

You play to win, if you see someone with power in a top gal, you take that gal down. Thus desse should've killed his own gal in the start.
Why should I have killed my own gal ?

Gal ended #1 and I ended #2, behind a good friend ?

Your logic is lost on me.
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Why should I have killed my own gal ?

Gal ended #1 and I ended #2, behind a good friend ?

Your logic is lost on me.
Stop winning speed rounds ffs ...
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But Friday Desse pm'd me... he said I wanne play speedround with you guys.

So I replied, "I'm gonna make you #1 again"
He told me, "Nobody wins speedround twice"

I told him to win, or to **** OFF....


I think it worked
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well done TeamPies, was annoying that i had to work saturday , and thanks sad (and the rest.) for putting in so much work to make TeamPies succeful in the speed rnd

i shall now claim total victory for myself ta.

p.p.s: thx again sad
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