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13 Nov 2005, 14:37
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For Crowly <3
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Luton, England
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
Why not have a feature on sign up then which takes the person age in and if its under 18 not display gal banners. Or have an option which says Jolt / PA arnt responsible for gal banners etc
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13 Nov 2005, 14:37
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#152
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 846
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
manipulated pics isnt illegal anywhere its just in some facist ppl dreams
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13 Nov 2005, 14:39
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#153
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Insomniac
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 3,583
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by robban1
this is not a flamewar you support a dictatorship and therefor you are a twat
btw marabou is a choclade brand .....................brownnose boy
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funny, you seem to be doing your best to make it just that.
how old are you, 12?
grow up fs
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13 Nov 2005, 14:39
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#154
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Most unimportant guy...
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Kvinesdal
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
I think I know what picture it is, and if its he one I think, the cosing is hilarious...I guess theres something more to it tho, as Apoccomaster wudnt let it happen if not.
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13 Nov 2005, 14:41
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#155
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Insomniac
Join Date: May 2003
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by Jonas
I think I know what picture it is, and if its he one I think, the cosing is hilarious...I guess theres something more to it tho, as Apoccomaster wudnt let it happen if not.
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not really. appocomaster wouldnt have a choice in the matter since biffy outranks him and made the call
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13 Nov 2005, 14:44
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#156
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Posts: 1,048
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
Appocomaster seems to share the views of large parts of the community though, while biffy seems to live in JoltWorld. A closure is too much, a warning and censoring the picture would be more than sufficient.
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13 Nov 2005, 14:46
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#157
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 846
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
so sorry flaming is what then? not haveing the mainstram opinion?
btw phil you suck too
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13 Nov 2005, 14:46
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#158
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U've been Moderated
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: getting sex0red by pretty women
Posts: 1,510
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by robban1
break the rules=close
haha well do some serious cheating and see how leet they are in their reactions
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13 Nov 2005, 14:48
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#159
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by robban1
so sorry flaming is what then? not haveing the mainstram opinion?
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No. This is flaming:
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Originally Posted by robban1
btw phil you suck too
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13 Nov 2005, 14:50
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#160
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Insomniac
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 3,583
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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so sorry flaming is what then? not haveing the mainstram opinion?
btw phil you suck too
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flaming is where you resort to little more then insults, demonstrated perfectly by you.
constructive critisism is always welcome, complaining and insulting others for the sake of it because they dont agree with you, isnt.
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13 Nov 2005, 14:57
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#161
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 846
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
constructive critisism is a dreamy vision that dont get the results call it flaming if you wish the intention is that your position in this crapgame make you to drop your own opinion and go with the boss opinion and that kinda piss me off,
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13 Nov 2005, 14:59
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#162
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boring
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: in a bar, under the sea
Posts: 115
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
I remember when we collected proof for login sharing for days and weeks years ago.. As far as I remember we never had much luck, even if it was quite clear.
Terminating the Game for dedicated players simply was a last, harsh action to take. Even if login sharing actually has Impact on the game, and is a Disadvantage for others.
Now people who probably never had a planet click on a button with hardly any reason (mainly not on the Game itself), cry kiddie porn and call themselves community managers, of what ever community.
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13 Nov 2005, 15:01
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#163
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Insomniac
Join Date: May 2003
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by robban1
constructive critisism is a dreamy vision that dont get the results call it flaming if you wish the intention is that your position in this crapgame make you to drop your own opinion and go with the boss opinion and that kinda piss me off,
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biffy isnt my boss, didnt you get the memo?
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13 Nov 2005, 15:03
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by robban1
manipulated pics isnt illegal anywhere its just in some facist ppl dreams
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You'll be surprised in how many democratic countries manipulated pics showing certain content (for example nude-fakes of celebrities) are considered illegal.
Also, about anyone calling this dictatorship ... lol. YOU signed up agreeing to the rules of this game, so it does pretty much remove any reason to complain about enforcing of the rules.
Can we have this thread closed now, please? It is driving into a pointless flamefest and is totally off-topic since the initial topic was "Can a planet be closed for an offensive galaxy picture" while now it is all about "Jolt / PA Admins / Multihunters do not have the right to enforce their rules".
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13 Nov 2005, 15:09
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This is bat country
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,693
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by Wishmaster
yes..the one closed is me.
I setup a gal banner which showed some teenagers cheering while looking at a V smal screen of porn- u could hardly c what happened at all.
I spose someone will give the url later one.. I will also once I get it again.
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I dont think porn is defined with image size. Funny as it might have been a year ago when the pic first showed, you knew very well it was against all known regulations across the universe and the catholic church.
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I was even told by gal m8s to set this as gal banner, wasnt my suggestion...
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Your galmates got bad judgement, arent you supposed to b the galactic Commander.
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Thing is:
biffy closes me after gal banner was up for 27 hrs or so.
I come online. Appocomaster reopence it, and just smiles and laugh.
Sayign that the fact 3 fleets where recalled was punishment enough.
I say I will never setup a gal banner with a girl ever again....
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The picture you put up was girl on boy,. Girl sitting on boy's "thing". Girl going up and down. Porn, got it ?
Girls are still ok, we all can appreciate some nice looking booty.
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I go to party. land 2 attacks. nice ones even!! (as zik)
then I am closed..I go to irc -drunk and all- dont got convos or owt.
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I was on irc drunk aswell One time I even drove a train through #private, toot that was a blast
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I ask why...appo tells me to contact biffy, I pm biffy. I say I am sry and all..
I say I didnt think while I did it.. my bad etc etc...
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Many great men didnt stop to think before making life changing decisions. Ghandi, The Dalai Lama, the guy who invented the internet. And now you
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he says - u r fked. u wont ever be reopened.
thats pretty much the story.
I did a mistake.
Sry
sry to my galaxy and my m8s.
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And to all, a merry merry christmas.
(PS, that was really terrible what you did and I am greatly offended by such material, come see me and we can sort this out. Ill accept a £20 million settlement and the right to your nations crops for 37 decades)
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13 Nov 2005, 15:13
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#166
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For Crowly <3
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Luton, England
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
Damn Catholics
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13 Nov 2005, 15:17
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#167
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This is bat country
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,693
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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manipulated pics isnt illegal anywhere its just in some facist ppl dreams
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A manipulated picture is basicly a image which has had its original message altered to give it another 'meaning' to those who view it.
Although altering a picture might not be illegal for your own amusement, the content of the picture will still abide by the rules of the given forum it is posted in. Be it a New York gallery or a online game.
Im still not sure what you are trying to say in your posts. But you sure do apply some pretty big words. Did you hire a truck to move them ? lol lol
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13 Nov 2005, 15:18
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#168
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
lo hartless well its you opinion, there is issues in this thread thats need to be solved screaming for locking the thread is a bit too eary but its something i notise you tend to do a lot and dont hide behind the eula just becose its suits you purposes kinda good atm
the thing is that biffy seems to be in those chatolic churtches still and narrowminded isnt the way to sort stuff
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13 Nov 2005, 15:28
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#169
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by robban1
lo hartless well its you opinion, there is issues in this thread thats need to be solved screaming for locking the thread is a bit too eary but its something i notise you tend to do a lot and dont hide behind the eula just becose its suits you purposes kinda good atm
the thing is that biffy seems to be in those chatolic churtches still and narrowminded isnt the way to sort stuff
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If you disagree with the EULA and its enforcement, please delete your account and go away, thank you. But stop whining about its enforcement because whining about it is just immature, brain- and pointless.
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13 Nov 2005, 15:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: haarlem, netherlands
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
this looks like a fun tread
first off, i agree that people posting pics like that should be closed
you know its not alowed
but now the fun part
some time ago i was PAteam and in that position i ones closed a porn banner
the rest of PAteam dragged my ass into the private channel and i got a ear full
seems there are rules set up for handling closures for unwanted galpics
basicly this is how its supposed to work
the offender gets 3 warnings THEN on the 4th offence they get closed
so biffy, here is my question, how many warnings did you issue
and if none, would you please reopen this valuable part of the playerbase!! (its not very big so chasing them away might be bad !)
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13 Nov 2005, 15:53
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#171
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Up yours
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Mighty Scotland
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by Heartless
, brain- and pointless.
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if you add boring in there, you describe your posts and your general existence
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13 Nov 2005, 16:00
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#172
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For Crowly <3
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Luton, England
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by xontas
so biffy, here is my question, how many warnings did you issue
and if none, would you please reopen this valuable part of the playerbase!! (its not very big so chasing them away might be bad !)
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13 Nov 2005, 16:09
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#173
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
To Xontas and Smudge: The question is irrelevant in the end, since it is purely up to the game's administration on how to enforce things.
In a court trial for thievery some people get away with a slap on the wrist, others get arrested directly. That is purely based upon the behaviour of the people which broke the law, as that is used to indicate if they'll do it again or not and if they realize what they did wrong or not.
I am not going to judge about this case, as it is the game administration that has to judge it, but in the end it won't change anything.
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13 Nov 2005, 16:16
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boring
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: in a bar, under the sea
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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Originally Posted by Heartless
In a court trial for thievery some people get away with a slap on the wrist, others get arrested directly. That is purely based upon the behaviour of the people which broke the law, as that is used to indicate if they'll do it again or not and if they realize what they did wrong or not..
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I kinda hope you're not serious with this pointless and wrong comparison.. It's not purely based on the behavior, how silly does that sound eh.. It's based on many things, often on arbitrariness
In Singapur they chop off thieves' hands, lets all get over to Vishmaster and do so..
Just cause somewhere else idiotic and arbi-xxx- decisions are made, doesn't mean we should try to make sure that they are also made everywhere else as often as possible
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13 Nov 2005, 16:30
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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I kinda hope you're not serious with this pointless and wrong comparison.. It's not purely based on the behavior, how silly does that sound eh.. It's based on many things, often on arbitrariness
In Singapur they chop off thieves' hands, lets all get over to Vishmaster and do so..
Just cause somewhere else idiotic and arbi-xxx- decisions are made, doesn't mean we should try to make sure that they are also made everywhere else as often as possible
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I was merely simplifying my point so that 75% of the people which replied on this thread might understand it as well. In the end there are several points considered, of which behaviour and confessments/disputes are two definate ones, combined with the severity of the deed and the possible punishments applicable by the law.
I do agree with you that "just cause somewhere else idiotic and arbi-xxx-decisions are made" we shouldn't copy them - however, you may find PA isn't copying those either.
The main points remain the same, though:
- If one does not break the rules in the first place, there is no need for punishment
- If one does break the rules he has to face the consequences set by the judges, whatever it may be
Closing or deleting an account is mentioned as a possible punishment for breaking a rule.
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13 Nov 2005, 16:31
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#176
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
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No one is completely useless. They can at least be an example of what to avoid.
heartless you are an 1up troll who only post here in your own interest you dont care about the eula a bit
biffy overruled the admins in this case and thats whats bothers me :/
/me avoids heartless in the future
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13 Nov 2005, 16:46
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Jolt PA Liaison
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Glasgow
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Re: Closing an account because of gal pic - too extreme?
I'm closing this because it is becoming a flame thread. At the end of the day the picture was completely out of order and fully merited closing the account. Whether it was anything more sinister is up to local authorities to decide. As I've said elsewhere, Wishmaster is welcome to return in a future round provided he obeys the rules. Thankfully something constructive - the issue of how to regulate gal pics better - has come out of this and we'll be reviewing that for future rounds.
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