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Who was 6.1.10

Any one care to elaborate here ?

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Re: R70 prediction & drama thread

Nothing is bugged and nothing was updated. Just people refusing to include close tags.[quote]
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Who was 6.1.10

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a player called heat new to apprime
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a player called heat new to apprime
Really?

Did you have much conversation with him??
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Nah, its some new bug for sure.
I practicaly live in here, i wouldve noticed
I've had this for many years with the r10 skin pal
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Really?

Did you have much conversation with him??
on occasion but he kept to himself
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on occasion but he kept to himself
Maybe kept to
Himself because it was a cousin. Common knowledge inside and outside of apprime.

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Unread 1 Mar 2017, 00:02   #458
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Migi was real indeed , but he runned some sort of scan script on his account for sure. If scan script was not working people had to call migi and get him to login to his account. Think he lived in thailand so the times he logged on was perfect for inc time, but yes sometimes he did not login and then we had no way to get scans as i can remember.

I have no evidence for this , but i really think nobody else than migi himself had any login details. So if no migi no scans.

Its different if you make up a fictive/fake person/Account to run a scan script for you. Which you have controll over at any times you want.

However i cant verify anything 100% as i dont know who made script , how it work 100% or who controll/sets it up.

Only thing i know i played in different allies and i have seen it used multiple times in diff allies.

If anyone knows how it work they should share with rest of the community as people deserves access to the same tools. I can understand and see why people would use something like this as it might be hard to find scanners who can be on 24/7 , but it deffo puts scanners good wrk as ladyofthelade and others pride away. Who are good in what they do.
You mean you want the code or just asking in layman's terms how it works?
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Maybe kept to
Himself because it was a cousin. Common knowledge inside and outside of apprime.

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I met Cardis cousins. Nice guys and the girls are easy as. None of them had time for PA though.

Heat I talked to most days. Useless at sending Def though, so I can't see the validity of him being a multi.
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Migi was real indeed , but he runned some sort of scan script on his account for sure. If scan script was not working people had to call migi and get him to login to his account. Think he lived in thailand so the times he logged on was perfect for inc time, but yes sometimes he did not login and then we had no way to get scans as i can remember.

I have no evidence for this , but i really think nobody else than migi himself had any login details. So if no migi no scans.

Its different if you make up a fictive/fake person/Account to run a scan script for you. Which you have controll over at any times you want.

However i cant verify anything 100% as i dont know who made script , how it work 100% or who controll/sets it up.

Only thing i know i played in different allies and i have seen it used multiple times in diff allies.

If anyone knows how it work they should share with rest of the community as people deserves access to the same tools. I can understand and see why people would use something like this as it might be hard to find scanners who can be on 24/7 , but it deffo puts scanners good wrk as ladyofthelade and others pride away. Who are good in what they do.

Using this scan script is against the rules, if youve seen anyone use it you shouldve reported them a long long long ago.
BF, Apprime, and most known cheater groups is prolly gonna keep using it regardless though.
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Using this scan script is against the rules, if youve seen anyone use it you shouldve reported them a long long long ago.
BF, Apprime, and most known cheater groups is prolly gonna keep using it regardless though.
I don't think he disagrees with you, what he was trying to say was after all these rounds of this ' advantage' and PA team not doing a dot about it, maybe PA team should just open source the code and level the playing field that way.
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I don't think he disagrees with you, what he was trying to say was after all these rounds of this ' advantage' and PA team not doing a dot about it, maybe PA team should just open source the code and level the playing field that way.
Yeah, the PA team needs to change that scanlinks are clickable to begin with, that would stop the scan scripts thats currently being used out there
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Re: R70 prediction & drama thread

I'm not running a scanbot (nor planning to), but setting any irc-client to autofollow urls from a certain channel isn't difficult at all, that's pretty much how it could work. Only "hard" part is to parse the scanlink from the auto-followed url and paste it back to that certain channel (would take like 5mins to setup by anyone with any proper skills), so bot(s) would mark the requests done, anyone could see the scan done ingame without pasting the link back tho. EDIT: Actually, with slack etc. web-based communication tools, it's even easier now that I think of it.

What comes to migi, back in BF I personally WAd him like a zillion times to come online for scans, probably called/SMSed even more (and we defo had no login details for him). Think I even spoke with him on phone once. Dunno about moru, but I ended up doing most of my scans myself (and a lot for ally as well, not even paid by alliance, thanks cardi and other HCs).
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Yeah, the PA team needs to change that scanlinks are clickable to begin with, that would stop the scan scripts thats currently being used out there
No, it wouldn't.
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Sounds like mz got the scanbot script, guess he can explain it better then. I was under the impression that it worked much the same way as noxious explained
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Re: R70 prediction & drama thread

This still is the interweb, you can send and receive pretty much anything without that much hazzle, even if scanlinks aren't clickable links. You can send HTTP-POST messages from irc-clients or browser scripts as well (which means the same as writing coords to a text-box and clicking a button to send it) and HTTP-GET the result (exactly like your browser does now), which is pretty much how userscripts work (like HR or CT etc. [afaik, both still send scans to their respective servers, making them at least as questionable than using auto-follow url on irc]), use a browser script that does custom actions on certain webpages by modifying WHAT IS SHOWN on your browser, not what is loaded.
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THIS JUST IN: BREAKING NEWS!


cardi
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nox
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can you post
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cardi says that app is using a scanbot since app was made
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we run numerous of cousins for deff
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atleast 10-15planets per round
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we would create more but ace is to inactive
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so we cant have our fun

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I'll just paste this

cardi
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sure
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and if they are not happy
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dont ally/nap us ingame
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we dont give a ****
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Sounds like mz got the scanbot script, guess he can explain it better then. I was under the impression that it worked much the same way as noxious explained
Why would I need "the" scanbot script? This is basic stuff.
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Why would I need "the" scanbot script? This is basic stuff.
I said that was how i thought i was coded, you said i was wrong. Seems like you got inside information
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You're defo coded wrong Farmer-Bob.
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I said that was how i thought i was coded, you said i was wrong. Seems like you got inside information
Oh, I see. You said "will stop the scripts currently being used out there". I read it as "will stop all scan scripts". You're right, to my knowledge the scripts out there just delegate opening links to the browser. However, if/when that avenue closes, it's only slightly harder to use HTTP requests directly.
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Re: R70 prediction & drama thread

Should an active player specialize in scans in order to make the game playable(for the rest of his ally)?

Imo those bots should be as open as the merlin bot.
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Re: R70 prediction & drama thread

this is a game of sacrifises, which ever ally has the most willing players to give up their first borns, organs, blood, income and pretty much everything else has the best chances to win, so yea, one or two of them has to suffer for the sake of few.
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this is a game of sacrifises, which ever ally has the most willing players to give up their first borns, organs, blood, income and pretty much everything else has the best chances to win, so yea, one or two of them has to suffer for the sake of few.
The same for planet/gal win. Whoever can rope in their mates (cousins/multis) to spend the whole round escorting, defending and blocking their way to victory wins.

If you're playing solo (even as part of an alliance), without proper support you aren't going to get anywhere near #1.
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The same for planet/gal win. Whoever can rope in their mates (cousins/multis) to spend the whole round escorting, defending and blocking their way to victory wins.

If you're playing solo (even as part of an alliance), without proper support you aren't going to get anywhere near #1.
I was very surprised how many escorts were going around from start of the round right through

I.e. Razor / Zwan / Coct
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The same for planet/gal win. Whoever can rope in their mates (cousins/multis) to spend the whole round escorting, defending and blocking their way to victory wins.

If you're playing solo (even as part of an alliance), without proper support you aren't going to get anywhere near #1.
Not true really we only escorted the top 3 planets in the last week. Spammer for example didn't land anything after mid round....
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Not true really we only escorted the top 3 planets in the last week. Spammer for example didn't land anything after mid round....
Who was those planets that kept escorting Rabbagast then?
Three cath planets, no intel in App bot or any other bot for that matter, signed up at the same tick around pt500?
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Who was those planets that kept escorting Rabbagast then?
Three cath planets, no intel in App bot or any other bot for that matter, signed up at the same tick around pt500?
You can check the nicks on the rankings page and ally... we had everything added to bot pal.
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You can check the nicks on the rankings page and ally... we had everything added to bot pal.
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None of them intag either. Is the support planet rule still a thing?
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None of them intag either. Is the support planet rule still a thing?
Obviously all the rules are still in there, but im sure its only Clouds that is able to get his "friends" closed for such behaviour, atleast as much as ive heard of the last couple of years.

Rules hasnt been enforced in years, so no point whining over this little incident.
Though it would be fun to hear Rabbagast story of it all
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Butcher RainbowS use a scan bot also
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give up on trying to prosecute scan bots, go after the defense and attack bots... you know, the ones that ruin the game!!!
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give up on trying to prosecute scan bots, go after the defense and attack bots... you know, the ones that ruin the game!!!
never heard of a defence or an attack bot can you explain further?
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give up on trying to prosecute scan bots, go after the defense and attack bots... you know, the ones that ruin the game!!!
Scan bots is organized cheating.
Prettt fcking simple for alliance HCs to detect it and remove them from alliances. Dealing with cheating on a player level is a whole other thing.
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Butcher RainbowS use a scan bot also
That would sort our scanner issues for upcomming rounds, thats for sure.
Guess ill be able to stop selling my ass for scans in the future, thank you adapt.
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Why not make scan bots obsolete by having an alliance scans (like they have with alliance fleets) built ingame
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Why not make scan bots obsolete by having an alliance scans (like they have with alliance fleets) built ingame
Why not make cheating less favourable with striking down at cheaters, like yourself?
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how did i cheat?
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how did i cheat?
He is just trying to troll you
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how did i cheat?
If you took scans from the scan bot, its pretty obvious your a cheater.
Being in apprime that is using scan bots would also make you a cheater.

Funny how sevenseas and apprime acknowledge the possesion of a scan bot after the round is over, instead of telling us earlier.
You could ofc say you belived the scanners to be realy active though?
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If you took scans from the scan bot, its pretty obvious your a cheater.
So what your saying is everyone is a cheater who has been in an alliance that uses/used a scan bot, if thats the case then im a cheater also, and so is ALOT of other players.
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If it is to do with leveling the playing field for all alliances just do alliance scans like they do with alliance fleets.... solves any issues
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So what your saying is everyone is a cheater who has been in an alliance that uses/used a scan bot, if thats the case then im a cheater also, and so is ALOT of other players.
Yes, obviously, everyone that is knowingly using a scan bot and not reporting it is cheaters.
Did anyone claim anything diffrent?
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Have you ever used #scans for scans Bitcher?
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If it is to do with leveling the playing field for all alliances just do alliance scans like they do with alliance fleets.... solves any issues
Just give everyone every scans from the start and have dine with it
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Have you ever used #scans for scans Bitcher?
Sure, everyone has. But there is no bot instantly giving scans away there, atleast not for me.

Though i like the idea to set up the cheat bots there aswell, atleast we would all be at similiar grounds.
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Sure, everyone has. But there is no bot instantly giving scans away there, atleast not for me.

Though i like the idea to set up the cheat bots there aswell, atleast we would all be at similiar grounds.
I know atleast two people who used scan bots to fulfill scans for #scans. You will know this too cos you are all knowing so you are as guilty as the cheaters....
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