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Question [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Apologies for the late start (and the awful title, but it is the sequel to the "TNG" league
Think of it as a punishment for mocking the mighty championship; now you're in a league with an embarrassing name too )

If any "new" people want to play, I think I have a way for teams to be taken by two people. Just claim a team and I'll add you to the fixture list.

Code:
1 Kurashima	Newcastle
2 Grimble v2.0  Birmingham
3 midge5        Middlesbrough
4 Deffeh	Liverpool
5 JC		Blackburn
6 Ragnarak	Tottenham
7 Non.Human	Crystal Palace
8 Lokken	Portsmouth
9 Lupin		Aston Villa
10 Blastoderm   Norwich
11 Apothos	Charlton
12 Zharkov	Man City
13 Koen         Fulham
14 JonnyBGood	changing random prem
15 Phang	changing random prem
16 LHC		changing random prem
17 Stew		changing random prem
18 1-X		changing random prem
19 SYMM		changing random prem
20 MrL_JaKiri	provisionally random

21 Skiddy	Newcastle2
Apothos and Zharkov asked for a random fixed team. I made sure you didn't get the same as last season (Everton/Southampton).

Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd, Bolton, Everton, Southampton, West Brom become the pool for random changing.

Scoring will be slightly different to last season.

G1, A2, X3... A2 will be for any draw, a general home with correct home goals, a general away with correct away goals, but no longer for correct goal difference (unless you all scream "CHANGE IT BACK!!")
HST, a point each for correct halftime score, named first scorer, and time of first goal +-3 mins.

example...
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Kurashima (Newcastle)  v  (Blackburn]      JC
FT 3-0                3-1              FT 2-0
HT 1-0	              1-0              HT 0-0
Kluivert 13        Bellamy 16      Shearer 60
ATH				            G
                Kura 4 - 1 JC
A few of you have had a preview of my "predictability handicap". It's a rule I might add later. All you need to know is that predictable teams could be made harder to win with if it seems people have an advantage. Allowing people to change teams later, or join/leave the random changing group should be ok too.

If any "new" people want to play, I think I have a way for teams to be taken by two people. Just claim a team and I'll add you to the fixture list.

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

this week's random teams

Code:
JonnyBGood	Everton
Phang		Southampton
LHC 		West Brom
Stew 		Man Utd
1-X 		Arsenal
SYMM 		Chelsea
MrL_JaKiri 	Bolton
You won't get the same team again until you've had a match with all the others.

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*** fixture list ***

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Sat 14th August

[Tottenham]  Ragnarak v Deffeh     [Liverpool]
[Norwich]  Blastoderm v Non.Human   [C.Palace]
[Portsmouth]   Lokken v Grimble   [Birmingham]
[Aston Villa]   Lupin v Phang    [Southampton]
[Blackburn]        JC v LHC        [West Brom]
[Bolton]   MrL_JaKiri v Apothos     [Charlton]
[Man City]    Zharkov v Koen          [Fulham]
[Middlesbro]   midge5 v Kurashima [Newcastle1]
[Middlesbro]   midge5 v Skiddy    [Newcastle2]

Sun 15th August

[Everton]  JonnyBGood v Arsenal          [1-X]
[Chelsea]        SYMM v Stew         [Man Utd]
(remember FT, HT, 1st scorer + time)

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

sorry, MrL txt me back to say he did want to play, but i dont think he has had time or opportunity to get online yet
when do you need him online by and i will txt him again?
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

I wanna play. Give me a team.
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

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sorry, MrL txt me back to say he did want to play, but i dont think he has had time or opportunity to get online yet
when do you need him online by and i will txt him again?
anytime before saturday to predict the match I've allocated in his absence. He can choose a permanent team later if he wants to.

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I wanna play. Give me a team.
do you want me to choose any one for you, or do you have a preference?
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

What can I have (Newcastle)?
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

anything but manu/chelsea/arsenal so newcastle is fine
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

\o/

I'll take Newcastle then.
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

the way it will work... midge5, kurashima and skiddy all predict the middlesbro v newcastle match

kura and skiddy have their scores compared to midge5's
midge5 is scored against the average of kura and skiddy (probably, there are various methods and I'll see what works best after we have some results)

if someone else signs up as middlesbrough2 then there would be two completely separate matches

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Chelsea - Man Utd
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

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Code:
Kurashima (Newcastle)  v  (Blackburn]      JC
FT 3-0                3-1              FT 2-0
HT 1-0	              1-0              HT 0-0
Kluivert 13        Bellamy 16      Shearer 60
ATH				            G
                Kura 4 - 1 JC
This upsets me greatly . I have never predicted us to lose and you have Kura beating me, talk about rubbing salt in the wound .
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Nobody's ever been beaten at anything by kura. Your example is both unrealistic and confusing 1-X. Your public demands in-depth explanations accompanied by charts and preferrably a graph correlating JC's bias with kura's outright stupidity.



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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

can I claim it was intentionally unrealistic to help illustrate the fact that it was a fictional example?
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

I'm still waiting for my ****ing chart here
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Blackburn - West Brom
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

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I'm still waiting for my ****ing chart here
There is nothing to chart unless there is a variation in possible values of JC's bias and Kura's outright stupidity. Are you suggesting they are ever anything other than 100%?
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

I like charts



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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Aston Villa - Southhampton

FT: 2 - 1
HT: 0 - 0

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

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the way it will work... midge5, kurashima and skiddy all predict the middlesbro v newcastle match

kura and skiddy have their scores compared to midge5's
midge5 is scored against the average of kura and skiddy (probably, there are various methods and I'll see what works best after we have some results)

if someone else signs up as middlesbrough2 then there would be two completely separate matches
So at the moment, say I scored 4, Skiddy 6 and Kura 1. Here Skiddy would get 3 points for beating me and I would get 3 points as their average is only 3.5. While If I had 1 and Kura 4 then the 2 of them would both get 3 points.
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

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So at the moment, say I scored 4, Skiddy 6 and Kura 1. Here Skiddy would get 3 points for beating me and I would get 3 points as their average is only 3.5. While If I had 1 and Kura 4 then the 2 of them would both get 3 points.
yes, that's how it will work (unless I change it). It depends on both Newcastle predictors genuinely trying to win, and I have a sneaky feeling one of them might not do so

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

[Tottenham] Ragnarak v Deffeh [Liverpool]

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Middlesbro] midge5 v Kurashima [Newcastle1]
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Middlesboro (Midge) v Newcastle (Kurashima & some Geordie alcoholic)

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

[Norwich] Blastoderm v Non.Human [C.Palace]

HT: 0 - 1
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[Chelsea] SYMM v Stew [Man Utd]

HT: 1-0
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

are you cursing getting man utd for a week when they have an unpredictable match?

also , predict time of first goal. I decided to keep it, but made it harder (+-3)
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

[Norwich] Blastoderm v Non.Human [C.Palace]
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[Man City] Zharkov v Koen [Fulham]

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Re: *** fixture list ***

[Tottenham] Ragnarak v Deffeh [Liverpool]
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(Is there a problem with the lack of consistency in this prediction? If so i can change it...)
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I don't mind, but if people complain, then it could become a rule that predictions must be logical.
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

[Bolton] MrL_JaKiri v Apothos [Charlton]

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Aston Villa (Lupin) v Southampton (me)

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Everton v Arsenal
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[Bolton] MrL_JaKiri v Apothos [Charlton]

FT: 0 - 0
HT: 0 - 0
Scorer: n/a
while this is a perfectly acceptable prediction, and you would get bonus points for scorer and time if there were none.... you could predict a scorer + time to have a chance of points if your score prediction is wrong. Actually, it highlights why Ragnarak's prediction probably shouldn't be allowed, but as no-one seemed to mind, non-logical predictions are currently acceptable.

Can anyone remember what we did last season?

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Middlesboro v Newcastle

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HT 0-2

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

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while this is a perfectly acceptable prediction, and you would get bonus points for scorer and time if there were none.... you could predict a scorer + time to have a chance of points if your score prediction is wrong. Actually, it highlights why Ragnarak's prediction probably shouldn't be allowed, but as no-one seemed to mind, non-logical predictions are currently acceptable.
Yeah i thought about that, but i figured with my luck if i added a scorer 0-0 would be the result and i'd miss-out.
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[Blackburn] JC v LHC [West Brom]

FT: 4-1
HT: 2-0
Scorer: Dickov, 18
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

[Norwich] Blastoderm v Non.Human [C.Palace]

HT: 0 - 1
FT: 3 - 1
Scorer: Johnson, 25

Edit: Niel Shipperly is injured.
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Damnit, I thought I'd get back from holiday in time to predict, but obviously I was wrong
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

5 out of 7 results were 1-1 :eek:

Code:
[Tottenham]  Ragnarak v Deffeh     [Liverpool]
0-0		     0-1		   0-1
1-0		     1-1		   1-3
Defoe 39	   Cisse 37	    Gerrard 33
T					     H
           Ragnarak 1 - 1 Deffeh
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[Norwich]  Blastoderm v Non.Human   [C.Palace]
0-1		     1-0	 	   1-0
3-1		     1-1 		   2-1
Johnson 25	 Huckerby 16	    Huckerby 7
					    HS
             Blasto 0 - 2 Non.Human
Code:
[Portsmouth]   Lokken v Grimble   [Birmingham]
DNP		     1-1		   DNP
	             1-1
		  Savage 10

 	     Lokken 0 - 0 Grimble
Code:
[Aston Villa]   Lupin v Phang    [Southampton]
0-0		     2-0		   0-1
2-1		     2-0		   1-1
Vassell 52	  Vassell 12	    Beattie 25
AS
              Lupin 3 - 0 Phang
Code:
[Blackburn]        JC v LHC        [West Brom]
2-0		     0-1		   1-0
4-1		     1-1		   2-0
Yorke 18	  Clement 33	      Stead 33
					     T
                   JC 0 - 1 LHC
Code:
[Bolton]   MrL_JaKiri v Apothos     [Charlton]
DNP		     2-0		   0-0
		     4-1 		   0-0
		  Okocha 11	           n/a

                MrL 0 - 0 Apothos
Code:
[Man City]    Zharkov v Koen          [Fulham]
DNP		     1-0		   0-1
		     1-1 	           1-2
	          Fowler 30	    Collins 30
					     T
            Zharkov 0 - 1 Koen
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

Code:
[Middlesbro]   midge5 v Kurashima [Newcastle1]
1-0		     0-1		   1-1
2-1		     2-2	           2-2
Viduka 28	 Bellamy 13 	    Shearer 13
					    XT
             midge5 0 - 4 Kura
Code:
[Middlesbro]   midge5 v Skiddy    [Newcastle2]
1-0   		     0-1		   0-2
2-1		     2-2	           1-3
Viduka 28	 Bellamy 13	    Shearer 28

             midge5 0 - 0 Skiddy
Kura gets a win, Skiddy gets a draw, midge5 gets a defeat (0-2)
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

how many minutes either side to get a T?
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:

3, it was reduced for this season.
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