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Unread 17 Sep 2007, 22:42   #1
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Failed scan attempts in News

i can remember failed scan attempts on your planet used to show up in your news (in early rounds).
why have they been removed from your planets news?

there's no way to find out if your wave distorters do any good...
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

Useless.
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Unread 18 Sep 2007, 08:32   #3
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

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this IS usefull because you build wave distorters to block scans, but you dont see any result.
when you do see results (failed scan attempts in your news) you will know if you're getting scanned and by whom so you know if you're an attrictive target and you can respond.
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Unread 18 Sep 2007, 11:01   #4
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

i miss that feature :crymeariver:
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

i agree i would not mind that feature being reintroduced
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

in the old system, the notice in your news wasnt 100%, there was a CHANCE they were shown.
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

Well the other issue here, is people at the top complained because they would get scanned all the time, and would constantly be getting news flashes for blocked scans. So while occasionally seeing a blocked scan can be fun, getting news items 10 and 20 times a tick (especially when there was a quest that included scanning a top player) got kind of old. Also what Remy said is true, you only saw a percentage of the scans attempted on you, not all of them.
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

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useluss reply that is...

this IS usefull because you build wave distorters to block scans, but you dont see any result.
when you do see results (failed scan attempts in your news) you will know if you're getting scanned and by whom so you know if you're an attrictive target and you can respond.
So a new tactic of spamming the target with failed scans to mask cov ops/attacks or something? Giving him the constant fear of being attacked because people are scanning him Sounds like fun!
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

As I see it, there's two possible systems, each with trade-offs.


The old system allowed you to see blocked scans in your news, but in return it was possible for anyone to get through, no matter how many distorters you had.

The current system prevents anyone without more amps than your number of distorters from getting through, giving you a level of certainty. However, in return, you don't know when people have tried to scan you.



I think it works well and would keep it as it is..
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Unread 19 Sep 2007, 03:42   #10
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

I actually like the idea of jammed scans having a %age chance of being a news item. Also, with the greater difference between amps and jammers would be a higher chance of it being a news item.

There are alot of tactical things that have been raised above, but also i think the major moaning about it (top players being scanned constantly) doesnt really apply anymore; in R3 every man and his dog was scanning The Roman Fortress for fun or curiousity or to see important changes or his fleet composition or whatever. Now, that hardly happens in an environment of gal raids.

I actually like it.
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Unread 19 Sep 2007, 12:33   #11
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

maybe make this feature (to see failed scans) a researchable one. so you could research to intercept failed scans. if you dont research it, you dont see failed scans in your news.

or maybe you could configure to show/hide failed scans in your preferences.

this would make both parties (the ones that do want to see failed scans and the ones that dont) happy.
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

Honestly i don't want that feature back, cause now ppl can easily find out if your a scanner by doing structure scans on you.

Although i would like a possility to notice blocked scans at your planet, but not in news (no scan-spam plz). Maybe by history showing the amount of scans you blocked, so you could find out if someone had attempted to scan you that way.

Anyway, i'd rather not see blocked scans on news. Because i don't want gals to be able to know about incomings, because of stupidity of a planet trying to do extra scans on his target. Especially not now that allies have to let newbies in, in order to get reach the limit of members.
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

I like the idea of critical scan failure showing up in News. Maybe it's time to rethink what comes up in the News...
Recalled fleet warning is not necessary: you recall a fleet and get a red News tab instantly to tell you... that you recalled a fleet at least there should be no red tab for that.
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

Fleet recalls are useful when people news scan you; otherwise they have no idea that this is so. Perhaps the fact that it highlights your news isn't such a good idea though.
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

The spamming issue is an easy fix: Either a tabbed news entry page (or sort, whatever) similar to:

[all] [combat] [security] [information] [construction] [research]

where [information] in this case would be scan results.

Or they could simply put a filter or a hide all news entries of <insert type here>, which would be similar to the cancel <ship type> in the production screen

My thought here:

Blocked news scans should be shown. Hey, if they want to spam the bejesus out of you, let them. Waste of resources for them/their alliance.

However, this would be a very useful tool to put back into planetarion for intel purposes. It would give you an idea on whether people are planning on attacking you, checking your defense or security centers, etc. The biggest boon I would see out of this is intel. Tracking scanners, alliances, etc. Of course, this isn't an exact science. You have personal friend scanners, galaxy scanners, and #transcendancy, so before you start huffing about snooping peoples tagged alliances out, it can give plenty of misleading information. =)

One more thing is I think they need to put chance back into scanning. To put it simply, it's still pointless to be a dist-whore. There are dedicated scanners that will end up with 140-some wave amps, and still being able to play, but there's no way you can end up with enough dist to block scans against you. Even if you played a terran and ended up with a large amount, you will either a) get covopped because not enough sec centers, or b) not be able to build anything -- and 1 or 2 factories is not enough =). But dist-whores play to play, not play to scan. Even if it's as much as adding a d20 to scanner and scannee's score, that would give a chance of someone with 100 dist to block someone with 118 amps, but not likely.

By the major part of the war era of a round (PT 650+) it's useless to have distorters except to block FA scans. It plays like clockwork. Scan, attack, jpg/news, recall/land. There is no guessing or gambling involved. If someone crashes nowadays, it's because they simply didn't log in in time to recall..
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

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Blocked news scans should be shown. Hey, if they want to spam the bejesus out of you, let them. Waste of resources for them/their alliance.
blocked scans don't cost resources anymore iirc
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Re: Failed scan attempts in News

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