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Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 08:02

This morning I woke to incoming from a top10 galaxy. TBH, I have totally had it with you farming, cheating, acc sharing, multiing b*tches. HOW CAN YOU ALL PLAY THIS GAME CHEATING YOUR WAY TO THE TOP YOU................................ no words for you guys.

I 'like' how galaxy twentysix four is using galaxy fourtythree two and some other planets as flak for the attack on my gal. Looking at the farm galaxy, with the name 'l33t' in the galaxy name, I have to assume you guys who are ranked so high, are very 'l33t'.

It takes a lot of 'leetness' to own 3 planets, farm your way to the top and then use those farms as escorts, to bash planets at 20% of your size.

My HC's told me you guys are Eclipse/ToT.

Can't you play one f**** round without cheating?

fiddler123b · 12 Apr 2003, 08:05

Ive seen the Egyptians use farms as well. yes, very l33t to be on top with such 'tactics'.

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 08:08

You know I am really sick of it.

Call the 'Dragons' and WP newbees, at least most of their players own just 1 planet. I am not shy to admit there is probably some losers and cheaters in my own alliance and block, but it is just ... totally demoralising for players to see cheating players take up the top10 spots, EVERY SINGLE ROUND!

I am hereby resigning from PA and deleting my planet.

Goodbye, I have had it with the lot of you.

Have fun, Eclipse. Oh and maybe try to get a life, because atm you guys think Planetarion isn't a game, but R/L. I hope you guys choke on your own farms

Knight Theamion · 12 Apr 2003, 08:10

you are one sore loser, good riddance.

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 08:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
you are one sore loser, good riddance.

yeah. make it personal. how mature.

try to actually comment on the situation. you're a well know cheater yourself ive been informed

ComradeRob · 12 Apr 2003, 08:23

I found this to be an intriguing story, so I did a little bit of checking on it. There are only two galaxies with the word 'l33t' in the galaxy name, and one most certainly isn't a farm galaxy (well, not voluntarily anyway

). So, the other one must be the 'farm' galaxy you mentioned.

And lo and behold, the galaxy in question is indeed attacking the same target as a top WEET galaxy! That is, if you consider a single planet to be a representative sample of an entire galaxy.

So, the top 3 galaxy in question launches an attack, and on a single target, there is a single attacker from the aforementioned 'farm' galaxy also attacking. Presumably you feel that this single planet attacking means that the whole galaxy is a farm galaxy? That seems to be what you are saying.

Now, if the entire galaxy was attacking, you'd have a very good case. But to take the attack of a single planet, and run off to AD claiming that this is an example of WEET galaxies using 'farm gals' as escorts is just plain stupid.

K-W · 12 Apr 2003, 08:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
You know I am really sick of it.

Call the 'Dragons' and WP newbees, at least most of their players own just 1 planet. I am not shy to admit there is probably some losers and cheaters in my own alliance and block, but it is just ... totally demoralising for players to see cheating players take up the top10 spots, EVERY SINGLE ROUND!

I am hereby resigning from PA and deleting my planet.

Goodbye, I have had it with the lot of you.

Have fun, Eclipse. Oh and maybe try to get a life, because atm you guys think Planetarion isn't a game, but R/L. I hope you guys choke on your own farms

Classic misconception. Everyone cheats but your alliance. Grow up m8. WP is just as full of cheaters as everyone else.

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 08:31

Quote:

Originally posted by ComradeRob
Now, if the entire galaxy was attacking, you'd have a very good case. But to take the attack of a single planet, and run off to AD claiming that this is an example of WEET galaxies using 'farm gals' as escorts is just plain stupid.

I never denied Eclipse isn't very good at farm.. eh Planetarion. Seriously, you guys get away with everything don't you?

Oh and hi Theamion;

<Hicks> theamion's galaxy should have been deleted
<Terminator> which gal is that
<Hicks> its that roid farming galaxy that was told "please stop farming asteroids"
<Terminator> when were they told that
<Hicks> this was a couple of weeks ago

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 08:34

Yeah yeah whatever K/W

It's amusing the biggest farmers feel the urge to reply to my thread tho

Stop defending the undeniable, grow up

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 08:38

Quote:

Originally posted by ComradeRob
There are only two galaxies with the word 'l33t' in the galaxy name, and one most certainly isn't a farm galaxy (well, not voluntarily anyway ). So, the other one must be the 'farm' galaxy you mentioned.

Yes Rob,

Im sure this 12 million galaxy at fourtythree two is a WeeT gal. Look at their scores! wow!

The_Fish · 12 Apr 2003, 08:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
Call the 'Dragons' and WP newbees, at least most of their players own just 1 planet. I am not shy to admit there is probably some losers and cheaters in my own alliance and block, but it is just ... totally demoralising for players to see cheating players take up the top10 spots, EVERY SINGLE ROUND!

well, my gal mate is top 10, and he hasnt farmed at all (with a score so high I made sure he wasnt cheating) so it can be done, and he attacks alone.

and I have 6 planets, so your first statement is also wrong

N0VA · 12 Apr 2003, 08:42

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Fish
well, my gal mate is top 10, and he hasnt farmed at all (with a score so high I made sure he wasnt cheating) so it can be done, and he attacks alone.

and I have 6 planets, so your first statement is also wrong

WP and Dragons encompass hundreds of planets, so your six accounts do not disprove his statement. Maybe if you tried actually doing math instead of bragging about your cheating tendencies, you would not come across as such a clod.

ComradeRob · 12 Apr 2003, 08:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
Yes Rob,

Im sure this 12 million galaxy at fourtythree two is a WeeT gal. Look at their scores! wow!

Eh? Now you're just confusing me, I never said it was WEET

You claimed it is a farm galaxy, I'd say that a single planet from that galaxy happening to launch on the same target as a WEET galaxy is no proof of your statement.

If you have better proof, pm it to me and it will be dealt with.

at0mic.c0w · 12 Apr 2003, 09:04

*NEWSBREAK*

Rob in sending 30k escort fleet shocker

ComradeRob · 12 Apr 2003, 09:15

Quote:

Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
*NEWSBREAK*

Rob in sending 30k escort fleet shocker

My gal is clearly a farm galaxy

at0mic.c0w · 12 Apr 2003, 09:18

Quote:

Originally posted by ComradeRob
My gal is clearly a farm galaxy

can anyone tell me how to report cheaters ?

MadeMan · 12 Apr 2003, 09:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
Yes Rob,

Im sure this 12 million galaxy at fourtythree two is a WeeT gal. Look at their scores! wow!

wow because it got low score it cant be weet? fk u. If u want to do anything about this, then report it dont just post a thread here and whine all over, CRY BABY! thats what u are.

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 09:41

Quote:

Originally posted by MadeMan
wow because it got low score it cant be weet? fk u. If u want to do anything about this, then report it dont just post a thread here and whine all over, CRY BABY! thats what u are.

i wonder why I paid your PA planet last round (sigh)

Foxman · 12 Apr 2003, 09:50

Quote:

Originally posted by fiddler123b
Ive seen the Egyptians use farms as well. yes, very l33t to be on top with such 'tactics'.

what ****ing farms twat? go back to your vacation alliance

gzambo · 12 Apr 2003, 09:56

dont u ppl get it yet

u cant call urself 1337 until u have attacked someone with at least 3 escort fleets
there is no skill in roiding somone on ur own ffs u have to have someone escorts with u to be considered a skilled player

Confraria · 12 Apr 2003, 10:16

Quote:

Originally posted by MadeMan
wow because it got low score it cant be weet? fk u. If u want to do anything about this, then report it dont just post a thread here and whine all over, CRY BABY! thats what u are.

i bet u're on a 12millish weet gal...

Knight Theamion · 12 Apr 2003, 10:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
I never denied Eclipse isn't very good at farm.. eh Planetarion. Seriously, you guys get away with everything don't you?

Oh and hi Theamion;

<Hicks> theamion's galaxy should have been deleted
<Terminator> which gal is that
<Hicks> its that roid farming galaxy that was told "please stop farming asteroids"
<Terminator> when were they told that
<Hicks> this was a couple of weeks ago

yes Hicks is playing you.

Also an alliance that is playing 1 month and now you say it gets away with everything, Eclipse has no precedent of this round the closest thing is Fury, and off all the big alliances Fury was usually the alliance with the least closures, Xanadu the most and Legion on a good second place.

Razorback · 12 Apr 2003, 10:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
snip

Im afraid you win no prize today. As rob said already, i fail to see how a whole galaxy especially the couple eclipse members in that galaxy are cheating, if ONE planet of the galaxy attacks the same target as someone from another galaxy.
Not to mention that the "farm" galaxy is indeed not weet.
The word farm also seems wrong, you might want to replace it by "escort" or atleast "multiflak" to give your post a special toungetwist of illegallity. Because even if a player was attacking together with a 2 mio planet or even a 1 mio planet you might have to report him just to the creators and see about it.

I would offer you the chance like i do with every player to report a cheating Eclipse player to me, so he can be dealt with, but im not sure you would take this offer, seeing how much proof you have presented yet.

Nice post, tho abit structural and logical flawed.

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 11:08

Focht,

Why would I report them to you?

You protect them!

All the blabbering about the fact it's just 'one planet' from a 'non weet' galaxy, doesn't tell me a lot. Ofcourse, this galaxy isn't weet. You guys farmed it, and it's kinda hard to put a farm galaxy in the arbiter, because you would have to think off some excuses and fake nicks to accomplish this. Kinda hard to explain to your members why those 'members' are never on IRC etc etc.

Like I said; you guys are VERY good at it

-----
We farm together,
We backstab together,
after that we die together.
-T&P slogan

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 11:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
yes Hicks is playing you.

Also an alliance that is playing 1 month and now you say it gets away with everything, Eclipse has no precedent of this round the closest thing is Fury, and off all the big alliances Fury was usually the alliance with the least closures, Xanadu the most and Legion on a good second place.

It wasn't Hicks pming me. I just changed the nick of the person because he wanted to remain anonymous.

And I admit; Fury was always the best at not getting caught. Xanadu and Legion were a bit more n00bish and less skilled at farming, so they got caught the most.

Razorback · 12 Apr 2003, 11:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
Focht,

Why would I report them to you?

You protect them!

All the blabbering about the fact it's just 'one planet' from a 'non weet' galaxy, doesn't tell me a lot. Ofcourse, this galaxy isn't weet. You guys farmed it, and it's kinda hard to put a farm galaxy in the arbiter, because you would have to think off some excuses and fake nicks to accomplish this. Kinda hard to explain to your members why those 'members' are never on IRC etc etc.

Like I said; you guys are VERY good at it

-----
We farm together,
We backstab together,
after that we die together.
-T&P slogan

A well why bother fighting with someone like you right ?
PPL who actually know me, know that i removed cheaters from eclipse more then once.
You instead are only a troll, no point behind the thread, no information, pure lying and accusations.
You might turn the words like you want, still lacking the proof part arent you ? Just because you say its true doesnt mean it is.

I wouldnt even try to reply to your personal insult because that already shows how much you know about the game and about ppl. Now go back to your mom and tell her how bad the other kids were in the infamous online game called pa, maybe she will buy you sweets today and not beat you up like every other day.

Razorback · 12 Apr 2003, 11:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
It wasn't Hicks pming me. I just changed the nick of the person because he wanted to remain anonymous.

And I admit; Fury was always the best at not getting caught. Xanadu and Legion were a bit more n00bish and less skilled at farming, so they got caught the most.

So you admit you made a fakelog ?
Logs are forbidden on this boards and you makeing a fakelog almost denies you any further reputation of saying the truth in this thread

Well done, why did you start the thread in the first place ?

Scorpio · 12 Apr 2003, 11:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
yes Hicks is playing you.

Also an alliance that is playing 1 month and now you say it gets away with everything, Eclipse has no precedent of this round the closest thing is Fury, and off all the big alliances Fury was usually the alliance with the least closures, Xanadu the most and Legion on a good second place.

hehe, but if we go for deletions ...

Kjeldoran · 12 Apr 2003, 11:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Razorback

I wouldnt even try to reply to your personal insult because that already shows how much you know about the game and about ppl.

ya annoying isn't it if pple start insulting you? bah, getting a nasty Déjà-vu here ...

rgds Kj

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 11:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Razorback
So you admit you made a fakelog ?
Logs are forbidden on this boards and you makeing a fakelog almost denies you any further reputation of saying the truth in this thread

No dummy. Just because the nick was changed, this doesn't mean this hasn't been said. tsk tsk.

Quote:

Well done, why did you start the thread in the first place ?

To provoke tw*ts like you.

Terminator2003 · 12 Apr 2003, 11:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Razorback
Just because you say its true doesnt mean it is.

Ever thought about applying that to thyself?

Razorback · 12 Apr 2003, 11:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
No dummy. Just because the nick was changed, this doesn't mean this hasn't been said. tsk tsk.

To provoke tw*ts like you.

Im not provoked, not even offended, im enjoying my time, watching the townidiot (you) chasing himself on an multiplayer online forum, Sorry to disappoint you but i think ill go for lunch now, try to bring up something witty and totally outstanding shocking (yes you can even makeup fakelogs and lie abit we dont mind that) while im gone. I got still abit time before ill go over to my friends. On the otherhand i might go there before and show them what kind of well educated cool kids you can meet over the internet. :e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick:

Knight Theamion · 12 Apr 2003, 12:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
It wasn't Hicks pming me. I just changed the nick of the person because he wanted to remain anonymous.

And I admit; Fury was always the best at not getting caught. Xanadu and Legion were a bit more n00bish and less skilled at farming, so they got caught the most.

you even fail at losing, how could you ever expect to win ?

hAl · 12 Apr 2003, 12:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
you are one sore loser, good riddance.

Isn't it rather time you left. I'd rather play in a game with someone who disapproves people using support/farm planets than with someone flaming him.

hAl

furssie · 12 Apr 2003, 12:39

Just a practical question:

Are you people really that naive that by how creators are being lenient in enforcing their rules this round, aside from the fact that this game is highly competetive.

Do you expect 'everyone' to follow?

*sighs*

hAl · 12 Apr 2003, 12:40

Btw, there is a lot of these so called support/farm gals around. I'm still looking for the owners of twentynine four. We found this gal after about 3 weeks play containing:

* Almost no pods and several planets without pods
* No visible eta 4 or higher ships (NO frigs, NO DE even on the ziks fleets)
* Only 9 planets with pds
* NO planets with anti DE pds
* Huge FI/CO def fleets compared to their size

Some example fleets at the time from that gal (off course without a planet I cannot scan gals anymore and at least from this gal I have some older scans left):

Fleet Size 9755 PDS Size 1000
Corsair 8452 Cutlass 1255
Brig 37 Thief 11
##
Fleet Size 3167 PDS Size 665
Spider 739 Beetle 1478
Scarab 150 Roach 800
##
Fleet Size 3404 PDS Size 585
Spider 975 Beetle 1573
Scarab 440 Roach 409
Astro Pod 7
##
Fleet Size 0 PDS Size 359
##
Fleet Size 12760 PDS Size 845
Corsair 11836 Cutlass 874
Astro Pod 50

Anybody thinking that is a normal gal that is run by 10 real players ??? I'm pretty sure it is a gal run by people multying but is this usefull evidence ? As I did not have newsscans when I quit the round I couldn't track who had been using this gal but no doubt in my mind this is a farm for a weet/nar gal cause at the time the gal had about more roids than a regular vvomm gal.

hAl

hAl

Sad · 12 Apr 2003, 13:27

Quote:

Originally posted by fiddler123b
Ive seen the Egyptians use farms as well. yes, very l33t to be on top with such 'tactics'.

please dont use the word egyptian refering to that gal as t hey are a disgrace to their names!

gzambo · 12 Apr 2003, 13:39

Sector Scan Report on 29:4:xx (xxxxxxxx) [Zikonian] [12/04/2003 12:41 GMT]

Planet Name xxxxxxx Leader xxxxxxx
Score 1668830 Metal 465155
Crystal 540726 Eonium 180494
Constructions 17 Research 17
Metal Asteroids 95 Crystal Asteroids 57
Eonium Asteroids 29 Unknown Asteroids 0
Fleet Size 6145 PDS Size 1964

Unit Scan on 29:4:xx [12/04/2003 12:42 GMT]

Corsair 5782 Cutlass 363

PDS Scan on 29:4:xx (xxxxxxxx) [12/04/2003 12:42 GMT]

Mesonic Cutter 591 Tachyon Beamer 982
Pulse Cannon 391 Hadron Turret 0
Ion Launcher 0

an uptodate scan on twentyninefour

kindas proves hAl's point i think

auther pendragon · 12 Apr 2003, 15:00

Erm !!!

Normally i dont post much in here but in the words ow winston churchil."never in the field of pa forums has so much ****e been spewed by so many against so little"

im the gc of the so called super duper gal you refer to

so i reckon we will deal with straight facts here

point one:

recently my gal launched a retal on 48:4 which was i believe 80 odd million score we attacked it alone

now why on earth would we do that then feel the need to use flanking attacks against a 22 million PDS whore galaxy

point 2

i did newsies on most of your planet and then newsied some of the other attackers

conclusions were as follows

a) a surprising number of attackers first sent attacks at the "farm gal" you mention then recalled and sent attacks to your planet. i think in the manual thats called "piggyback defence"

b) there seems to be more than one attack on you at the moment

c) the person who hit you is actually a member of WP and according to what i can gather he asked in his chanel for some fi at eta 6 to cover what looked from the newsie to be a starndard farm defence ( fi fleets sent eta 6 at 1.4 minute intervals) is BC actually sent his fleet then recalled it as other people had fi spare

anyway in conclusion when we attack a gal we tend to get 15 % of its roids your gal just joined the list. live with it

Im sure the creators will have read this post and will act upon it but i really dont expect they will give you your roids or PDS back

regards

Auther

A2 · 12 Apr 2003, 15:09

Quote:

Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
can anyone tell me how to report cheaters ?

The current reporting address is:
[email protected]

OR

[email protected]

K-W · 12 Apr 2003, 15:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
Yeah yeah whatever K/W

It's amusing the biggest farmers feel the urge to reply to my thread tho

Stop defending the undeniable, grow up

I farmed a very small amount when it was legal. And I mean very small. I never had my own farm planet. And ive not gotten a single farmed roid since. If you would like to present some kind of massive proof that Eclipse has more farmers than other allainces please do so.

I know full well that you cant prove it because you have no clue. It is one of the most common mistakes in this game to think that your alliance/gal/bg cheats less than others. Just cause you know them, and they are good guys, and seem like good players etc. Good guys and good players cheat. There is no rational reason to think that eclipse members cheat more than any others, there is no evidence that that is the case. Cheating is an equal opportunity employer.

Morden · 12 Apr 2003, 15:55

whats wrong with escorting?

tbh i got bored of this round 3 weeks ago and stopped playing for myself then, so ive helped flak m8s of mine incase they needed any extra to take 2 larger targets, i see nothing wrong with it.

perhaps you should make some friends, they might do the same for you.

K-W · 12 Apr 2003, 16:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Rumad
If you talk to me on irc i will give you instances where fleet assists have occured, I have also heard of entire gals launching by proxy.

Is it cheating? You can never be 100% sure, but lets not saylets get proof, to deny you have ppl who have farmed and fleet assisted themselves to t10 positions is bollox.

However just because its grey don't defend like you are virgin preparing for her wedding - there are no clean sides these days, there probably never was any.

Im not defending it.

I simply said that I dont cheat. Im not speaking for anyone else.

Im well aware that eclipse members use escorts, and that some use multi escorts or farm planet escorts. I do not deny there is cheating in eclipse. Im simply stating that WP has just as many cheaters. Id imagine more considering thier membership.

Yaroslav · 12 Apr 2003, 16:05

Quote:

Originally posted by gzambo
Sector Scan Report on 29:4:xx (xxxxxxxx) [Zikonian] [12/04/2003 12:41 GMT]

Planet Name xxxxxxx Leader xxxxxxx
Score 1668830 Metal 465155
Crystal 540726 Eonium 180494
Constructions 17 Research 17
Metal Asteroids 95 Crystal Asteroids 57
Eonium Asteroids 29 Unknown Asteroids 0
Fleet Size 6145 PDS Size 1964

Unit Scan on 29:4:xx [12/04/2003 12:42 GMT]

Corsair 5782 Cutlass 363

PDS Scan on 29:4:xx (xxxxxxxx) [12/04/2003 12:42 GMT]

Mesonic Cutter 591 Tachyon Beamer 982
Pulse Cannon 391 Hadron Turret 0
Ion Launcher 0

an uptodate scan on twentyninefour

kindas proves hAl's point i think

I don't find those PDS very useful for a farm...

Yaroslav · 12 Apr 2003, 16:16

Yeah, probably, all planets with that kind of fleets should be closed without needing more proof. I'm sure that 99% of times a multi planet would have been closed .

Morden · 12 Apr 2003, 16:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Rumad
Yep. Looks more like a fleet assist planet or perhaps a fleet farm.

If it wasnt a Zik planet then it might be a fleet farm.........

defence planet is more like it.

Kjeldoran · 12 Apr 2003, 16:41

Quote:

Originally posted by K-W

I know full well that you cant prove it because you have no clue. It is one of the most common mistakes in this game to think that your alliance/gal/bg cheats less than others.

So with this statement, are you willing to admit Fury (just picking an example) didn't cheat any less then some FAnG members did, who unfortunately got caught cause of "legal" though pathetic strategies?

Infact I'm not askin you to, as we both don't know whether it's true or not, but still according to your own statement you're aught to agree to this.

no offense ofc Germ

rgds Kj

Hicks · 12 Apr 2003, 17:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
It wasn't Hicks pming me. I just changed the nick of the person because he wanted to remain anonymous.

And I admit; Fury was always the best at not getting caught. Xanadu and Legion were a bit more n00bish and less skilled at farming, so they got caught the most.

When the heck is that log taken from ?

It certainly isn't this round as I don't even know Theamion's cords.

I seem to remeber in Round 7 Spinner posted on a galaxies politics board and asked them to stop farming but I don't think it was Theamion's, nor do I have any logs with "Terminator".

Kjeldoran · 12 Apr 2003, 17:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Hicks
When the heck is that log taken from ? It certainly isn't this round as I don't even know Theamion's cords.

like he stated earlier (which you should have read did you read the entire thread) he FAKED the nick of the one saying this. Why he chose YOUR nick I have no clue, maybe he just wubs you?

god knows ...

rgds Kj

Hicks · 12 Apr 2003, 17:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Kjeldoran
like he stated earlier (which you should have read did you read the entire thread) he FAKED the nick of the one saying this. Why he chose YOUR nick I have no clue, maybe he just wubs you?

god knows ...

rgds Kj

Really ? I'm loved !