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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 01:52   #51
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Originally posted by Dreadnought
well if you are going to accuse eclipse members of cheating and implying this in a thread about Frucht intentionally expressing as if it was Frucht that was eclipse, i think Frucht is LDK(tho i dont know)

So please kindly pm me the closed eclipse person. Or are u just wriggling out of your bad intel by saying you didnt "say" that it was frucht
frucht is fang.
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 01:56   #52
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Re: Re: Bets please

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closing Frucht for that reason (i know which /me waves to spinner) it more than pathetic

i hope he gets reopened , then we can roXXor da universe again... ah illegal, add me to the special bot too...

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ok letz own da universe

btw. there is no victim over cypher by Frucht, they play together ffs..
dont talk about things u cant realize in ur small brain...
LOL. Coming from YOU, I know bet a cookie Frucht is guilty as hell.
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 01:58   #53
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well if you are going to accuse eclipse members of cheating and implying this in a thread about Frucht intentionally expressing as if it was Frucht that was eclipse, i think Frucht is LDK(tho i dont know)

So please kindly pm me the closed eclipse person. Or are u just wriggling out of your bad intel by saying you didnt "say" that it was frucht
A planet was closed that I suspected to be Eclipse as it attacked with Eclipse and defended with Eclipse, so perhaps it was just in one of your BG, or was a multi planet of an Eclipse member.


If my intel is so bad how did I have you found after about a day?
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 01:59   #54
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frucht is fang.
Im just waiting for the "MEDDY WAS HAX0RED AND JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE FRUCH's LOGIN DETAILS!!!!"

but, that would have been so r8 wouldnt it?
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<Dreadnought>You cant whois on Eclipse server without a registered nic, which mr ****stirrer doesnt have.
<Almeida> well i like to grow fat myself too, and when i have enough ships then i can engage in big battles
<Nantoz> Zhukov for Lord Protector!
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 02:03   #55
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A planet was closed that I suspected to be Eclipse as it attacked with Eclipse and defended with Eclipse, so perhaps it was just in one of your BG, or was a multi planet of an Eclipse member.


If my intel is so bad how did I have you found after about a day?
Because i use my real nick in gal/cluster/para channels?
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A planet was closed that I suspected to be Eclipse as it attacked with Eclipse and defended with Eclipse, so perhaps it was just in one of your BG, or was a multi planet of an Eclipse member.


If my intel is so bad how did I have you found after about a day?
so, when you said,

"Maybe now with Eclipse planets being closed "

you actually meant

"Maybe now when there is ONE planet who I think might be connected with eclipse or an eclipse member closed..."

Though I can see why you chose to embelish, cause you dont really have anything there.
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 02:34   #57
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 02:58   #58
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If my intel is so bad how did I have you found after about a day?

Why do you care when you don't even play the game anymore?

Why do you bother to spend hours trying to dig up intel on who is who?
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 04:09   #59
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Why do you care when you don't even play the game anymore?

Why do you bother to spend hours trying to dig up intel on who is who?
You still didnt figure that out?
He is looking for your planet, so he can send you naugthy pa mails.
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 05:57   #60
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wasn't there a fury members in M&S closed in r7 if im not wrong? what happened to him? did he get booted or what?

this is NOT a troll, im really wondering as i cant remember

and as far as my memory tells me, I saw him posting a few times here :/

On a sidenote it would be nice to know if he's in Eclipse.
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 06:16   #61
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wasn't there a fury members in M&S closed in r7 if im not wrong? what happened to him? did he get booted or what?

It was Morden, and he promptly left
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 06:26   #62
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wasn't there a fury members in M&S closed in r7 if im not wrong? what happened to him? did he get booted or what?

this is NOT a troll, im really wondering as i cant remember

and as far as my memory tells me, I saw him posting a few times here :/

On a sidenote it would be nice to know if he's in Eclipse.
Morden. Left Fury.

He was in Eclipse, and Eclipse was quite vicious with anyone we believed to be cheating. I kicked out a few members myself. In fact, there were various praises in how ruthless Eclipse command was with dealing with cheats or suspected cheats.

So really, you have nothing credible.
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 06:34   #64
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Maybe now with Eclipse planets being closed Dread will shut up about LDK being so bad and Eclipse being so good.
Poor.

Old age getting the better of you?

I would like to know which Eclipse planets are being closed, or infact any you believe to be cheating. Eclipse does not support cheating. (I do not imply that LDK does either with this, that is left to debate and there will always be a rift over it. Alot of "old timers" from back then think LDK cheated and nothing will change that.)
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 06:35   #65
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 06:50   #66
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still wonder about the reason for closure and when he will probably be reopened like others.

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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 06:55   #67
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wasn't there a fury members in M&S closed in r7 if im not wrong? what happened to him? did he get booted or what?

this is NOT a troll, im really wondering as i cant remember

and as far as my memory tells me, I saw him posting a few times here :/

On a sidenote it would be nice to know if he's in Eclipse.
Accounttakeover != multi/farming etc etc

if i were HC, which i am thankfully not, I would've let him stay.

He left because of it. This only makes Fury look good.
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 07:59   #68
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well anothe top10 dude closed..


wanna bet over him to..

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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 08:09   #69
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who??


i think the whole top10 is cheating :P

cant get so much infront of me without escorts\farming :P
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Im just waiting for the "MEDDY WAS HAX0RED AND JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE FRUCH's LOGIN DETAILS!!!!"

but, that would have been so r8 wouldnt it?
1. get balls...

2. again : show proofs...no1 could that

3. Frucht was beeing closed for wrong reason (cuz he played without cheating etc.)
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well anothe top10 dude closed..


wanna bet over him to..

Who ?
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 09:16   #72
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Accounttakeover != multi/farming etc etc
Is is cheating however. And probably with knowledge of the whole gal. Off course it is always nice to get a good galm8 if you have a top gal and are about to lose somebody. But that is also the risk of gaming. And accountswapping like that is therefor a big nono especially in private gals universe.

I suggested once to allow accountswapping for planets but reducing their fleet and recources to 50% and no swapping in first two weeks of a planets existance. That way gals are slightly protected against sudden player drop outs for whatever reasons but still have a pretty high cost on it.

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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 09:38   #73
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Im just waiting for the "MEDDY WAS HAX0RED AND JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE FRUCH's LOGIN DETAILS!!!!"

but, that would have been so r8 wouldnt it?
Comedy "back to your bridge" option.
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try to scan _-gangstarr-_

i know who it is but dont wanna say it just yet..
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I know of 6 closed last night. Multihunters really are doing something visible this round
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 09:48   #76
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well good they are closing ppl but couldnt they also close other ppl than LDK, as im sure they arent the only ones cheating1!
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Unread 13 Jun 2003, 10:14   #78
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I know of 6 closed last night. Multihunters really are doing something visible this round
Hmmm, didn't your tools have some page to detect this ?
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Hmmm, didn't your tools have some page to detect this ?
It did and I so wish it was working this round

I have an idea to stop it overloading on DB updates so maybe it will be up again soon
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wasn't there a fury members in M&S closed in r7 if im not wrong? what happened to him? did he get booted or what?

this is NOT a troll, im really wondering as i cant remember

and as far as my memory tells me, I saw him posting a few times here :/

On a sidenote it would be nice to know if he's in Eclipse.
2 people were closed in M&S round 7. Morden for swapping into the galaxy and Jackal for providing fake account info. Morden was then Fury and left Fury. He did join eclipse, but is not currently an eclipse member. Fury's policy on cheating was less than that of eclipse. Fury booted cheaters deleted by PA crew. Eclipse boots cheaters regardless of PA crews actions. But both those policies are more progressive than what LDK has right now.

As far as account swapping, replacing an active player who suddenly cant be active anymore in a private round with another active player is just about the least bit of cheating you can do. THere is no non-competitive advantage. All it does is take away the rl luck factor from galaxy competition. And frankly I dont think that members of your gal losing internet etc should be what decides private galaxy rounds. I think its better for the game if players can be replaced. But that hardly matters anymore. And Morden managed to be just as inactive as the guy he replaced, so in the end it was a bit of a wash for us in that dept.
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I heard Frucht was closed because he provided false account information
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I heard Frucht was closed because he provided false account information
why would he do that ? knowing its illegal
maybe his accountinfo is used otherwere already and seeing Frucht played last round he has a planet somewhere out there or ?
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Maybe he just made a typo filling in his name.

The fact is every time a high ranked player gets closed everyone pats Spinner on the back that finally cheaters are getting closed.
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The fact is every time a high ranked player gets closed everyone pats Spinner on the back that finally cheaters are getting closed.
until they are reopened that is

current betting is as follows

being deleted 6/1
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Illegal mate , stop the bs and fake "logs" thx
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1. get balls...

2. again : show proofs...no1 could that

3. Frucht was beeing closed for wrong reason (cuz he played without cheating etc.)
You still havent figured it out yet. This is a new definition of beeing "slow".
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why would he do that ? knowing its illegal
maybe his accountinfo is used otherwere already and seeing Frucht played last round he has a planet somewhere out there or ?
Well ....
I did not play R8 nor r9 so pls get your facts straight before posting , thx
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Maybe he just made a typo filling in his name.

The fact is every time a high ranked player gets closed everyone pats Spinner on the back that finally cheaters are getting closed.
urms you think spinner would delete someone because he types "bib" instead of "bob" in his name ? Furthermore why did Frucht make a new account with new info ? he played r9, so was in possession of an account, wasnt he ?
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urms you think spinner would delete someone because he types "bib" instead of "bob" in his name ? Furthermore why did Frucht make a new account with new info ? he played r9, so was in possession of an account, wasnt he ?
I haven't heard anyone who knew about it say he created a new account, that was Stals his story.

And on the typo part, that's called a joke
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urms you think spinner would delete someone because he types "bib" instead of "bob" in his name ? Furthermore why did Frucht make a new account with new info ? he played r9, so was in possession of an account, wasnt he ?
once again
i ve not been playing ROUND 9

there is another dude on irc calling himself FruchtZerG , also german who is not me.
Just making that clear
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frucht is fang.
he isnt....
frucht is allianceless atm.... he is attacking with a fang bg, and member of a ldk bg afaik. and he got a few friends in fang but he didnt join us.
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What a joke is this every round.
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i think he is refereing to the high profile/ranking cheaters that are caught but not deleted
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frucht member of an ldk bg? never knew that...:P
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i think he is refereing to the high profile/ranking cheaters that are caught but not deleted
among others, but mainly the inability of the creators to at least ban a decent amount of cheaters (since round 3). The more they close and delete (!) the more people will play fair.
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frucht member of an ldk bg? never knew that...:P
maybe his 1st planet is in a fang bg and his 2nd is in the ldk bg
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among others, but mainly the inability of the creators to at least ban a decent amount of cheaters (since round 3). The more they close and delete (!) the more people will play fair.
The multihunters etc this round are doing a good job, as far as I can see.
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