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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:13   #1
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Red face whine... whine... and... whine :(

I just want to state that some people are really pathetic, this is a game we are playing, a war game. And as such it is nothing but normal for one side to reside in the sunshine, while the other side(s) reside in a darker place...

Instead of complaining, draw your conclusions, see what went wrong, and learn from it. If your ally betrayed you, try to get vengeance, in this... or the next round. If certain alliances/players' acctions irritated you... go get their roids, if that proves impossible, make sure to make their life difficult in other aspects (illegal activities excluded) and get their roids in the next round.

VVOMM over-estimated their power, NAR was blind enough to trust WEET, and WEET is simply playing a smart game (for now...).

If the situation annoys you, take precautions for it not to happen again. Calling a new alliance 'Fury' all over again, will not change your misery. Bringing up ancient cheating will not either. Neither will verbal attacks on a cheating alliance ex-HC have much of an impact. Etc. etc. etc... If you think pa needs fresh players, print flyers and distribute them in your uni/workplace, saying it over and over again will not get people to play...

For me, Planetarion round 9 is the round of the whiners and babies. And some spineless people around here make me sick.


Propaganda is a valid instrument of warfare, it is welcomed, it makes AD fun... But jesus, some people around here are simply either extremely young, or just plain dumb. God I hope some of you guys put your money where your mouth is and quit pa, I already paid for round 10 you know

I have been here for quite some time now, a little under 9 rounds to be exact, but dullness never reached a level near the current one around here.

Stop the whining already.
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:17   #2
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Does whining about people whining not count then?
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:18   #3
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Does whining about people whining not count then?

Good point.

However, sometimes you have to fight fire by setting another...
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:22   #4
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Good point.

However, sometimes you have to fight fire by setting another...
and then pee on it
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:27   #5
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:28   #6
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whether you think of it as whinning or not ppl are allowed to do their say, i suggest if you dont like it dont read it simple as that

as for vvvvvvooooooommmmmmm i think vom didnt over estimate themselves we were confident in a fair fight, prolly the ones who are now 'whining' did overestimate vom but who cares its past now , and besides every round there is in some way whinners on the boards altho it may not been this early.
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:30   #7
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Re: whine... whine... and... whine :(

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try to get *vengeance*, in this
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:34   #8
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whether you think of it as whinning or not ppl are allowed to do their say, i suggest if you dont like it dont read it simple as that
I did my say.

If you do not like it, do not read it, simple as that.
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 20:36   #9
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so whats the whinning about then
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Do people realy listen to "propaganda" nowdays?
Cant be more then a handfull imo..

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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 21:07   #11
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What pisses me off in r9 is that I chose a ruler/planetname that I cannot pronounce properly Ok - that's not any powerblocks fault directly but I blame one of them. Not enough that Wipeys big worn-out boots smell better than my new-washed socks quite shocked me this round.

Aww... yeah... whining became popular. And for whatever reason a lot of ppl fell for it as I experienced now a bit too often. Maybe they use AD no more as a place for discussion or "PR"-issues but more to spit out all the bitterness they accumulated in the last rounds and hence feel emotionally reliefed? Was just a guess...
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Not enough that Wipeys big worn-out boots smell better than my new-washed socks quite shocked me this round.
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 21:33   #14
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Re: whine... whine... and... whine :(

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For me, Planetarion round 9 is the round of the whiners and babies.
Indeed it is. It seems like people are running out of good tactics because crying out propaganda like this should always be the last option, used only by very desperate players.
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 22:20   #15
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lo wipey mate :/ U NEVER LET ME FENCE SIT IN NOS ARBIES LIKE U PROMISED so now u r doomed 2 my eternal whining
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Re: whine... whine... and... whine :(

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VVOMM over-estimated their power, NAR was blind enough to trust WEET, and WEET is simply playing a smart game (for now...).


For me, Planetarion round 9 is the round of the whiners and babies. And some spineless people around here make me sick.
WEET/NAR over-estimated VVOMM power.

Planetarion round 9 is the round of the wankers and the cowards. and some ppl around here make me sick too.
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I agree about all the whining, but still. This has been the most boring round of PA since I started in r5.

But I believe the biggest problem is the small universe.
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 23:17   #18
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Re: whine... whine... and... whine :(

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VVOMM over-estimated their power
I think its more correct to say NAHRWEET overestimated VOM power.
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Unread 8 Apr 2003, 23:18   #19
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I think its more correct to say NAHRWEET overestimated VOM power.

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I agree about all the whining, but still. This has been the most boring round of PA since I started in r5.

But I believe the biggest problem is the small universe.
The smaller universe just puts a larger responsabillity on alliances to keep balance in universe. They failed in r9 for sure.
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Re: whine... whine... and... whine :(

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I just want to state that some people are really pathetic, this is a game we are playing, a war game. And as such it is nothing but normal for one side to reside in the sunshine, while the other side(s) reside in a darker place...

Instead of complaining, draw your conclusions, see what went wrong, and learn from it. If your ally betrayed you, try to get vengeance, in this... or the next round. If certain alliances/players' acctions irritated you... go get their roids, if that proves impossible, make sure to make their life difficult in other aspects (illegal activities excluded) and get their roids in the next round.

VVOMM over-estimated their power, NAR was blind enough to trust WEET, and WEET is simply playing a smart game (for now...).

If the situation annoys you, take precautions for it not to happen again. Calling a new alliance 'Fury' all over again, will not change your misery. Bringing up ancient cheating will not either. Neither will verbal attacks on a cheating alliance ex-HC have much of an impact. Etc. etc. etc... If you think pa needs fresh players, print flyers and distribute them in your uni/workplace, saying it over and over again will not get people to play...

For me, Planetarion round 9 is the round of the whiners and babies. And some spineless people around here make me sick.


Propaganda is a valid instrument of warfare, it is welcomed, it makes AD fun... But jesus, some people around here are simply either extremely young, or just plain dumb. God I hope some of you guys put your money where your mouth is and quit pa, I already paid for round 10 you know

I have been here for quite some time now, a little under 9 rounds to be exact, but dullness never reached a level near the current one around here.

Stop the whining already.
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For me, Planetarion round 9 is the round of the whiners and babies. And some spineless people around here make me sick.
The truth is elite = worst whiner/biggest babies, just ppl who are used to win, where fun is defined by the word WINNING ONLY...nothing else matters and a defeat is NO WAY accepatble.
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I was more thinking about the caps ;p
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It tends to get that way with caps lock on, sorry again m8...not the first time u get me for similar actions this round
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I still think it sorta looks like a kangaroo!
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I still think it sorta looks like a kangaroo!
any nice webcam picture you want to share with us axis?.
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nah cause I ended up getting one of those g/f things. I do have some pretty leet pics of her though.

:e_bunny: yes this thing looks like a queer kangaroo!



ummm on a lighter note. Vom never EVER underestimated their power, VOM was well prepared and organized before the round. HOWEVER when ticks started 2 particular alliances had some BIG no no's.


#1: sub battle groups -- this is what pisses me off the most. These genius groups thought it would be better to go the BG route and basically Ignore cluster/parallel and it took 3 days after ticks started to get half their freaking coords.

#2: not joining P and C allied channels they basically refused even.

#3: Exchange of friendly coords. I said in all the meetings "i dont wanna spend all round saying I told you so" well I did instead of listening to the plan it took WAYYY to long to get an idea of who is your buddy and who is mr evil.

So the deathblow went like this.

#1: Lack of friendly coord exchange

#2: refusal of P and C allies to establish alliances for defence etc purposes

#3: Having BG's formed and expecting targets when they FORGOT THE FKN TRAVEL TIME IN P AND C <says I told you so again> man that fires me up heh BG's where 5 galaxies share 0 travel time expect to share defence when attacked in P and C GENIUS!

#4: Incoming from 2 blocks and due to lack of P and C cooperation defence inside is bare to none and incoming started before allied coords were completed in arbiter.

#5: time time time.. the incoming from nar/weet took its toll on those peeps and it led to now.

So definatly not no underestimation was made at all it was the BG's and refusal for peeps to work together which turned vom into a big "roid candy store" for the other 2 groups. Who granted were ALSO not well organized but better than vom took its toll.

"i told you so" if I forgot that.

I am pleased that eclipse publically states it will not put up with peeps like necro etc doing their version of a PA grocery store. Also when I PM eclipse peeps and show them some fence sitters and wankers who are 6.8 mil attacking with 3 fleets all incoming to planets with less than 112 roids they do seem to get pissed and say theyll do something about it. It is way different than the other alliances whom simply shrug their shoulders when I tell them and show them. Although Nar has kicked peeps also. But I didnt want anyone thinking their skill overcame vom cause it was vom who destroyed themselves first weet/nar were simply vultures chewing the carcass.
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...about exchange of coords...
You must not forget:

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2. The second arbiter that went down for 2 important days
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IVVOMM over-estimated their power, NAR was blind enough to trust WEET, and WEET is simply playing a smart game (for now...).

Sorry, but I just had to reply to this.

VOM as we were first called, did nothing of overestimating our powers. We wanted to create a "group" of alliances, which still made it possible for several other groups to be created as well of equal strength.

We even were so "foolhardy and Naive" that we decided to create clean gals to prevent fencesitting.

The only ones overestimating our power has got to be Weet and Nar, who was so afraid, that they had to create the biggest block, i have seen so far.

You must have had about 40% of the universe under control, due to your "lenient" gal policies.

I am not as such, going into your arguments, but that comment, really was wrong.
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Sorry, but I just had to reply to this.

VOM as we were first called, did nothing of overestimating our powers. We wanted to create a "group" of alliances, which still made it possible for several other groups to be created as well of equal strength.

We even were so "foolhardy and Naive" that we decided to create clean gals to prevent fencesitting.

The only ones overestimating our power has got to be Weet and Nar, who was so afraid, that they had to create the biggest block, i have seen so far.

You must have had about 40% of the universe under control, due to your "lenient" gal policies.

I am not as such, going into your arguments, but that comment, really was wrong.
actually vom more or less saw that one comming a mile away, multiple political influancale players have stated in numerous posts that this was inevitable. Vom choose to set up a combination of alliances that was seen as the biggets threat. Allso adding Virus to the mix didnt help. Sadly the universe in total was to small. Think about it. The tactics applied in this 'war' was the same as anny previous one. 2 parties ( seens as weaker) cooerated to rid themselves of what they saw as their mutual biggest threat.

The small universe contrubited a lot to the effishiance of when this was done. Heh i can remember perhaps 2 3 days max where I only delivered out vom targets. After that it was pretty much a done deal.

As to the later war with nar, I personally expected a lot more of a war there allso. on paper they had a good member base, and manny of them. What their members ( or former members) choose to do tho, u cannot blame WeeT for.


Allso ive ben doing my usuall universal browsing, and it seems to me some of the galaxies i have down as bad hostile not very nice at all galaxies are growing now.
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Unread 10 Apr 2003, 16:11   #39
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actually vom more or less saw that one comming a mile away, multiple political influancale players have stated in numerous posts that this was inevitable. Vom choose to set up a combination of alliances that was seen as the biggets threat. Allso adding Virus to the mix didnt help. Sadly the universe in total was to small. Think about it. The tactics applied in this 'war' was the same as anny previous one. 2 parties ( seens as weaker) cooerated to rid themselves of what they saw as their mutual biggest threat.

The small universe contrubited a lot to the effishiance of when this was done. Heh i can remember perhaps 2 3 days max where I only delivered out vom targets. After that it was pretty much a done deal.

As to the later war with nar, I personally expected a lot more of a war there allso. on paper they had a good member base, and manny of them. What their members ( or former members) choose to do tho, u cannot blame WeeT for.


Allso ive ben doing my usuall universal browsing, and it seems to me some of the galaxies i have down as bad hostile not very nice at all galaxies are growing now.
What you dont understand is that you had a choice of 3 blocks with 2 of those at war. The only thing that made our choices naive, was your NAP with NAhR.

This unbalanced universe was brought on by your choices, not ours.

And for the record, we regarded WEET atleast equal too us. Only you regarded VOM so strong, as your blocking policy showed.
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Indeed it is. It seems like people are running out of good tactics because crying out propaganda like this should always be the last option, used only by very desperate players.
The Problem is that half of what is being called Whining is simply inability to accept the hand youve been dealt, and half of what your calling propoganda isnt propoganda but simply peoples opinions based rightly or wrongly on thier viewpoint/alchohol lvl at the time/ defensive posture/lack of wit / and sheer boredom!

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could some nice moderator delete all threads from AD except this one?

1 olympians member(lo zerocore) was still saying after vvomm got beaten in 2(3?)days that without nar there vvomm'ers would have beaten weet

probably not but the war would have lasted much longer and this round might still be fun without THE EVIL NAR ruining the game for every1

(never-ever take me seriously btw, and Stress neither, if ppl just had an idea what weirdo that guy really is..)
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The thing I never got was how it went from the first reports saying "NAR just chose to pick VVoMM as their primary target, there's no co-op between the two blocks(WEET and NAR) though" to WEETNAR? I might have been a tad lazy but I somehow managed to miss the reports about it maybe being something a tad more and the announcements of it so being, for me it just went from rumors of common objectives to full out NAP
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The thing I never got was how it went from the first reports saying "NAR just chose to pick VVoMM as their primary target, there's no co-op between the two blocks(WEET and NAR) though" to WEETNAR? I might have been a tad lazy but I somehow managed to miss the reports about it maybe being something a tad more and the announcements of it so being, for me it just went from rumors of common objectives to full out NAP
I remember one ND HC that pre-round said a formal cooperation would never happen. I guess that was only for the forums.
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All the writing on the forums, is for the forums.. No one else, would ever give a crapp about whats said here..
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