Planetarion Forums - IF a powerfull block is judged by numbers.. How many?

furssie · 30 Oct 2002, 03:50

Is 45 +120 + 20 = Powerfull block?

I am getting so confused as to what extent does an alignment between alliances often called as 'block' will then be judged as a 'powerfull block', in case numbers is the right basis to criticize it?

I am obviously talkin about ldk+titans+dta pact.

In case that value is deemed to be, will it also be logical to call a single allianace with 180+ members a powerblock within themselves?

curious.

30 Oct 2002, 04:00

it has NOTHING to do with numbers

SL vs LDK/early WP/r2 legion

one of the above two would be a fearsome evil pa-ruining powerblock, the other has 1k planets..

30 Oct 2002, 04:01

Paranoia brings people to not always make rational observations. Round 8 was supposed to be "block-free," according to most of the AD users between rounds 7 & 8. There was a movement, so to speak, which suggested that the return to random galaxies and this being Planetarion's last round were reason enough to forge a "Gentleman's Agreement" where noone would form a 'powerblock.'

As far as I can tell, this agreement is still yet to be breached. However, because the term 'powerblock' has never really been properly defined, or at least a definition put forth to be agreed upon by the majority of players, there are those who would choose to spin propaganda for their alliance which takes advantage of the vagueness of this definition.

Faberius · 30 Oct 2002, 04:17

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Originally posted by furssie
Is 45 +120 + 20 = Powerfull block?

No, that's an Auld esque mini block.

Unless all 185 are elite super players, then you can say, "ahhhh! blocking!"

But its not really a block no.

Duke Leto · 30 Oct 2002, 05:51

This is just plain stupid.

THERE ARE NO BLOCKS IN ROUND 8.

Leto

Kileman · 30 Oct 2002, 05:53

All I can say is, are both sides of these r8 'blocks' enjoying themselves?

________
American

N0VA · 30 Oct 2002, 06:25

Until alliances start banding together in an organized group with more members than the large alliances, I think it is premature to use the term power block. Sure you can define it however you want, but the connotation of a power block is an entity of such size and motivations that if not adequately challenged will dominate the universe. Titans/LDK are of such size and calibre that they can compete with Fury, but should they win, they will still face countless other alliances.

Bongdage · 30 Oct 2002, 06:50

this is pa, not tetris.

Toop · 30 Oct 2002, 07:10

plz stop complaining. Leto is right.

Silva baby · 30 Oct 2002, 08:20

I suppose a big block wouldn't be lyke member size i think
its got something to do with memebr size and quality of players

Storebo · 30 Oct 2002, 12:55

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Originally posted by furssie
Is 45 +120 + 20 = Powerfull block?

I am getting so confused as to what extent does an alignment between alliances often called as 'block' will then be judged as a 'powerfull block', in case numbers is the right basis to criticize it?

I am obviously talkin about ldk+titans+dta pact.

In case that value is deemed to be, will it also be logical to call a single allianace with 180+ members a powerblock within themselves?

curious.

DTA would consist of above 30 members actually..
There was about 25 of them just in Adelante and others was not in Adelante.
Adding Virus/NoS to that block i'd say.. might not be official but atleast the same deal that Titans claim Fury have with FAnG.
Just making sure there is no dobbelbooking maybe? :P

Scouse · 30 Oct 2002, 13:25

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Originally posted by Storebo

Adding Virus/NoS to that block i'd say.. might not be official but atleast the same deal that Titans claim Fury have with FAnG.
Just making sure there is no dobbelbooking maybe? :P

You're truely daft.

Stop with the lies and go back to crying over your lost roids.

Hicks · 30 Oct 2002, 13:47

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Originally posted by Storebo

DTA would consist of above 30 members actually..
There was about 25 of them just in Adelante and others was not in Adelante.
Adding Virus/NoS to that block i'd say.. might not be official but atleast the same deal that Titans claim Fury have with FAnG.
Just making sure there is no dobbelbooking maybe? :P

LDK is also more like 70 members and as Storebo says both ViruS and NoS need to be factored into their alliance but to be honest it's irrelevent so long as everyone is enjoying themselves.

Scorpio · 30 Oct 2002, 13:54

Quote:

Originally posted by furssie
Is 45 +120 + 20 = Powerfull block?

I am getting so confused as to what extent does an alignment between alliances often called as 'block' will then be judged as a 'powerfull block', in case numbers is the right basis to criticize it?

I am obviously talkin about ldk+titans+dta pact.

In case that value is deemed to be, will it also be logical to call a single allianace with 180+ members a powerblock within themselves?

curious.

http://pirate.planetarion.com/forum/...01#post2190601

hinch · 30 Oct 2002, 14:10

fang has 1000 members so we are a block on our own without the extra 500 tot bring and the extra 2k fury apparently bring

Storebo · 30 Oct 2002, 14:17

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Originally posted by hinchles
fang has 1000 members so we are a block on our own without the extra 500 tot bring and the extra 2k fury apparently bring

Fury just kicked someone....
We are down to 1999 members..
We should consider new allies... Lets meet back in the secret place and plot our evil plans...

cypher · 30 Oct 2002, 14:31

still going on about this crap...? heh.

hinch · 30 Oct 2002, 14:37

cyphie blame the tits that keep complaining becuase theyre loosing.

cypher · 30 Oct 2002, 15:03

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Originally posted by hinchles
cyphie blame the tits that keep complaining becuase theyre loosing.

hinch...we aint loosing...nor winning yet....
i'm saying in general that people should quit it....so not just titans but also fang/fury/whoever
it's useless annoying and pathetic and only makes you look stupid....

and if we keep complaining why do you keep making threads about useless BS? (you as in you know who

)

hinch · 30 Oct 2002, 15:08

but cyphie darling

i am stupid im still playing this online ****ing database number shuffling pile of **** after 8 rounds and 2 years.

god damn i really should get out more.

who`s up for beers at my place?

cypher · 30 Oct 2002, 15:33

why not come to amsterdam fs?:P

hinch · 30 Oct 2002, 15:36

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Originally posted by cyphie
why not come to amsterdam fs?:P

cant afford to/too busy with work

cypher · 30 Oct 2002, 15:40

i got that problem otherwise

hehe

Scouse · 30 Oct 2002, 16:11

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Originally posted by Hicks
LDK is also more like 70 members and as Storebo says both ViruS and NoS need to be factored into their alliance but to be honest it's irrelevent so long as everyone is enjoying themselves.

Oh dear, Hicks is now believing Storebo intel. You're smarter than that Hicks.

G.K Zhukov · 30 Oct 2002, 17:01

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Originally posted by Hicks
LDK is also more like 70 members and as Storebo says both ViruS and NoS need to be factored into their alliance but to be honest it's irrelevent so long as everyone is enjoying themselves.

This made my laugh, tnx Hicks.

HobbieRogue4 · 30 Oct 2002, 17:51

*nods in agreement with KR and Leto*

Privatized galaxies + 'intent' of having numerous alliances band together = powerblock in my opinion.

By "intent" I mean X number of alliances have bound together to a) defend itself from a known power, or b) destroy an opposition power. The earliest example that's most clear would be the events leading up to Round 4, and the subsequent 'powerblocking' headed by Fury, WolfPack, and Legion. The earliest example of A would probably be Round 3's STEL effort.

From my perspective, it's never been about 'numbers' of members, merely the gameplay power of the alliances involved. Alliance binds such as VeX, WTF, NoCeX (in its earliest stages mind you), FLTTV, XETA, etc. are 'powerblocks' in my mind. Each possessed a power in the game sufficient enough to be reason enough for the remaining powers in the game to be bound in agreement.

I have no idea what alliance is in the forefront in rankings this round, though with what, 6000 some odd planets this round, having a supposed 'block' wouldn't take much. Maybe.

Storebo · 30 Oct 2002, 20:42

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Originally posted by Scouse

Oh dear, Hicks is now believing Storebo intel. You're smarter than that Hicks.

lol @ Scouse...

Hicks · 30 Oct 2002, 21:26

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Originally posted by Storebo

lol @ Scouse...

But he deserves points for yet another imaginative denial.

Storebo · 30 Oct 2002, 21:32

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Originally posted by Hicks
But he deserves points for yet another imaginative denial.

Your allways to nice Hicks... but I agree..

Hicks · 30 Oct 2002, 21:34

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Originally posted by Storebo

Your allways to nice Hicks... but I agree..

My respect for the Titans HCs who've managed to stay away from the forums continues to grow.

Psi_K · 30 Oct 2002, 21:37

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Originally posted by Hicks
My respect for the Titans HCs who've managed to stay away from the forums continues to grow.

Too bad Sid isn't around to get thrashed on AD eh?
Though, it is Sid, I might have to get actually facts to counter this postings, unlike the other Fury HC that'll jump on any bone I throw them =/
I miss Zhil though, he was actually quite fun to post with.

30 Oct 2002, 21:41

DTA is a block fs :P

Zh|l · 30 Oct 2002, 22:09

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Originally posted by Psi_K

Too bad Sid isn't around to get thrashed on AD eh?
Though, it is Sid, I might have to get actually facts to counter this postings, unlike the other Fury HC that'll jump on any bone I throw them =/
I miss Zhil though, he was actually quite fun to post with.

Sid is around, just doesnt wish to sink to the level of current posters.

Lerxst · 30 Oct 2002, 22:13

...I will build 2k Wave Reflectors and start "powerblocking".

Heh.

Lanceman · 30 Oct 2002, 22:42

Nice one, still someone with humour around.

31 Oct 2002, 01:20

you must 1st split the word up into its 2 parts
power and block
and according to the OXford Dictionary
power means :a powerful country , person , or organization
block means :a solid peace of something , an obstruction ,a large building divided into flats or officers , a group of buildings

either the name we use is not very well chosen or you change building for the word alliances

so in other words its not defined by numbers but more by the power of organization the group of alliances has

now if someone can break that down better useing sources and provided the sourc they used id like to see it

imo a power-block is only such if the alliances in question are working together on attasck defence intel etc

afaik TiTs and co are not working togehter powerfull (other wise there not good at it after so many failed attacks on my gal :P )
and Fury and Fang are sure as hell not working together as as of yet ive not seen one shead of proof that there working against a common gola except maybe to be the number one alliance so the fact that there both hitting TiTs and co is just cos there in the way of becomming the number one alliane and do not wish to start a war with each other yet as there not sure who would we

" its takes a great man to win a war , but a greatter man would have won without the war"

ie Fury and Fang both no if they went to war it would be costly for both and as such are makeing sure there is no-one else around with the strenght to make anything from the time of when fury and fang are at each other , other wise the alliance that came out better from Fury and FAnG would then have to face this other alliance who has had enough time to build ups its miltary where as the winning alliance would be badly under-force because of the war

imo TiTs and co where chosen because here the next strongest alliance after Fury and FAnG