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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 11:57   #1
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What makes a good PA player?

I have been thinking this over and I don't believe players with the biggest scores are the best players!

The players with the biggest scores tend to be in a big alliance (lots of def) and also must be selfish in general.

What I mean by selish is that I expect although don't know for sure, that they just tend to send out attack fleets only not defence fleets.

I expect there is someone else in their alliance who is doing all the work behind the scenes. Sorting def and organising attacks they can join in (the good players).

As I'm not in one of those leet alliances, I don't know for sure.

I was hopeing that some of those ppl behind the scenes could enlighten me on these issues.

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P.s. plz don't flame this post unless of course you ARE one of those high score ppl and you think I have insulted you
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 12:01   #2
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 12:03   #3
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 12:06   #4
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 12:06   #5
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 12:06   #6
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I always was high ranked and I don't think anyone can accuse me of being selfish. Most players are selfish, but there are a few that aren't. Its mainly top 10-20 atm thats doing the roiding with 3 fleets trick never defending you thing.


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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 12:23   #7
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 12:41   #8
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if u want a huge score in pa: cheat
if u wanna be a good player: be active, get friends, get an alliance, make no enemies
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 13:06   #9
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if u want a huge score in pa: cheat
if u wanna be a good player: be active, get friends, get an alliance, make no enemies

way to ruin a thread~! :(
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 14:05   #11
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 14:50   #12
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I think it's being active, being selfish, being lucky, being experienced and having a good position in a good alliance.

activity speaks for itself, you need to be online to watch incomings, launch a lot of attacks and just be around to see what's happening.
Selfishness is usefull because you need the right attitude (doing little or nothing in defence.)
Luck is needed as well, if you want to do well you can't have too much defence on your targets. Especially early in the round it's possible to defend against any attack, no matter how big the sending planet is.
Experience means knowing what is a good tactic, what doesn't work and what does.
Having a good position means you can get special treatment, defending you is more important than defending ordinary members, you can claim targets before others, and you can make your alliance work for you instead of having to work for your alliance.

I don't think I have what it takes to run a top planet (don't want to either). I refuse to give up my 8 hours of sleep a day, I like to defend, and I don't have a rank in a good alliance . I prefer to be a support planet
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 14:55   #13
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you need: EXtreme activity at night(or m8s to newsie you).


You need to be selfish(to an extent), although u can get fairly big without.

You need to be a part of a couple of kick ass BGs, be in one the major alliances, and avoid making enemies.



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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 15:05   #14
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i finally understand why you call me a under average player

sadly enough i have to have a life besides this **** aswell and escorts are annoying yes
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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 17:08   #16
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sadly enough i have to have a life besides this **** aswell and escorts are annoying yes
they should have closed you down for good

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Unread 16 Jun 2003, 18:01   #17
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having a good position in a good alliance.
I think this is wrong you will find that you need to be more well known in the alliance then you will get the defence, You will find most HC's and officers in major alliances are often actually quite small in score as they have to spend time working on the alliance not just there planet.

Most player use BG's for attacks, so you need a good one of these so you can join good well organised attacks.

Appart from that i think you may be right, activity is the main one and friends who can contact you the second you get incoming.
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Unread 17 Jun 2003, 02:49   #19
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 07:32   #22
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You must be selfish to be a top10 player, on top of that you need to be extremely active the first part of the round.
It's not necessary to cheat, altho it helps a great deal (just guessing )
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 08:05   #24
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You dont need to be selfish at all (although in saying that, those that are selfish generally do better).

In R7 I *always* sent 2 fleets on attack and *always* had 1 fleet for defence. My defence fleet consisted of corsairs/cutlass, and my attack fleet was frigs in 1, de the other. It stayed this way until absolute stagnation (when I could only hit about 3 people that werent allied and they had less than 500 roids). I know TU did the same in most cases, whereas many others did not. (Singu had no defence fleet for over 1/2 the round, Valvalis's fleet was pure fr/de nothing less than eta 8 for most of the round, Dreadnought always had 2 fleets attacking, the other fleet farming etc)

Activity is one of the most important aspects, being available to be online 24/7 is very helpful (unless your account sharing/cheating). This doesnt mean that you *have* to be on every hour of the day.. it just means that if you get a txt or rang up, you can be online within the tick. For myself this meant being online from 11am-5am each day, and no matter where I was (uni, work, home) no more than 5 minutes away from an Internet connection, for the entire round.

Then there is alliances, empathy, friends etc etc, all of which make the good players the best. If no one likes you, they arent gonna break their backs to defend or help you, and if your alliance is winning the round, then its most likely that the planets from the said alliance will win (when was the last time the top 10 planets werent from the winning alliances?).

Then there is galaxy support (also under the friends category), as if you can have a galaxy that can support you and has the same ideas and feelings about stuff, you will do well. Its also hard for a planet to maintain a high rank when their size consists of 3/4s of the gal, although there are always exceptions with strong allied cluster support (ie Singu r7 c26).

So thats about it

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it just means that if you get a txt or rang up, you can be online within the tick. For myself this meant being online from 11am-5am each day, and no matter where I was (uni, work, home) no more than 5 minutes away from an Internet connection, for the entire round.
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Then there is alliances, empathy, friends etc etc, all of which make the good players the best. If no one likes you, they arent gonna break their backs to defend or help you, and if your alliance is winning the round, then its most likely that the planets from the said alliance will win (when was the last time the top 10 planets werent from the winning alliances?).
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You dont need to be selfish at all (although in saying that, those that are selfish generally do better).

In R7 I *always* sent 2 fleets on attack and *always* had 1 fleet for defence. My defence fleet consisted of corsairs/cutlass, and my attack fleet was frigs in 1, de the other. It stayed this way until absolute stagnation (when I could only hit about 3 people that werent allied and they had less than 500 roids). I know TU did the same in most cases, whereas many others did not. (Singu had no defence fleet for over 1/2 the round, Valvalis's fleet was pure fr/de nothing less than eta 8 for most of the round, Dreadnought always had 2 fleets attacking, the other fleet farming etc)

Activity is one of the most important aspects, being available to be online 24/7 is very helpful (unless your account sharing/cheating). This doesnt mean that you *have* to be on every hour of the day.. it just means that if you get a txt or rang up, you can be online within the tick. For myself this meant being online from 11am-5am each day, and no matter where I was (uni, work, home) no more than 5 minutes away from an Internet connection, for the entire round.

Then there is alliances, empathy, friends etc etc, all of which make the good players the best. If no one likes you, they arent gonna break their backs to defend or help you, and if your alliance is winning the round, then its most likely that the planets from the said alliance will win (when was the last time the top 10 planets werent from the winning alliances?).

Then there is galaxy support (also under the friends category), as if you can have a galaxy that can support you and has the same ideas and feelings about stuff, you will do well. Its also hard for a planet to maintain a high rank when their size consists of 3/4s of the gal, although there are always exceptions with strong allied cluster support (ie Singu r7 c26).

So thats about it

oh, and if you cheat, escort and farm it can help you as well (as long as you dont get caught) just ask DTA

or the best way to win a round and prove your a good pa player is get any one even close to beating u closed or get the #1 closed so u can win aint that right kile

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Common sense, good mathematical/logical brain for target picking purposes, and the desire to win so bad that youll do almost anything.

The latter is probably the reason why most of the players who have won, or been top whatever, in one round are rarely seen again imo..
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