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16 Jun 2003, 11:57
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: UK
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What makes a good PA player?
I have been thinking this over and I don't believe players with the biggest scores are the best players!
The players with the biggest scores tend to be in a big alliance (lots of def) and also must be selfish in general.
What I mean by selish is that I expect although don't know for sure, that they just tend to send out attack fleets only not defence fleets.
I expect there is someone else in their alliance who is doing all the work behind the scenes. Sorting def and organising attacks they can join in (the good players).
As I'm not in one of those leet alliances, I don't know for sure.
I was hopeing that some of those ppl behind the scenes could enlighten me on these issues.
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P.s. plz don't flame this post unless of course you ARE one of those high score ppl and you think I have insulted you
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16 Jun 2003, 12:01
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eia bro
Join Date: May 2001
Location: New Zealand
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I do.
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16 Jun 2003, 12:03
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Giant Squid Wrestler
Join Date: May 2001
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 190
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JugJug does.
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16 Jun 2003, 12:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: #aus
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Jug gives good head.
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16 Jun 2003, 12:06
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-=Murderous Plush Toy=-
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Bongdage
JugJug does.
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16 Jun 2003, 12:06
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Condemned to RP
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 1,654
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I always was high ranked and I don't think anyone can accuse me of being selfish. Most players are selfish, but there are a few that aren't. Its mainly top 10-20 atm thats doing the roiding with 3 fleets trick never defending you thing.
edit:
I mean jugjug does.
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16 Jun 2003, 12:23
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Sexceh Plush Toy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Moon.
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Originally posted by Mr. Juggalo
I do.
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16 Jun 2003, 12:41
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Agnus Dei
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Estonia
Posts: 155
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if u want a huge score in pa: cheat
if u wanna be a good player: be active, get friends, get an alliance, make no enemies
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16 Jun 2003, 13:06
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eia bro
Join Date: May 2001
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 63
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Originally posted by RedCrab
if u want a huge score in pa: cheat
if u wanna be a good player: be active, get friends, get an alliance, make no enemies
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way to ruin a thread~! :(
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16 Jun 2003, 13:52
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DarnocYzarc
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Norway
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Originally posted by Bongdage
JugJug does.
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16 Jun 2003, 14:05
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U've been Moderated
Join Date: Sep 2001
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i'll go with the good head part and BNOG does actually:/
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16 Jun 2003, 14:50
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Too close for comfort
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I think it's being active, being selfish, being lucky, being experienced and having a good position in a good alliance.
activity speaks for itself, you need to be online to watch incomings, launch a lot of attacks and just be around to see what's happening.
Selfishness is usefull because you need the right attitude (doing little or nothing in defence.)
Luck is needed as well, if you want to do well you can't have too much defence on your targets. Especially early in the round it's possible to defend against any attack, no matter how big the sending planet is.
Experience means knowing what is a good tactic, what doesn't work and what does.
Having a good position means you can get special treatment, defending you is more important than defending ordinary members, you can claim targets before others, and you can make your alliance work for you instead of having to work for your alliance.
I don't think I have what it takes to run a top planet (don't want to either). I refuse to give up my 8 hours of sleep a day, I like to defend, and I don't have a rank in a good alliance . I prefer to be a support planet
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16 Jun 2003, 14:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oslo
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you need: EXtreme activity at night(or m8s to newsie you).
You need to be selfish(to an extent), although u can get fairly big without.
You need to be a part of a couple of kick ass BGs, be in one the major alliances, and avoid making enemies.
P.S Being a girl was never a drawback (:P)
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16 Jun 2003, 15:05
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Miles Teg
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Dom City
Posts: 5,192
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no life and escort fleets!
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16 Jun 2003, 16:07
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U've been Moderated
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: getting sex0red by pretty women
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Originally posted by Knight Theamion
no life and escort fleets!
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i finally understand why you call me a under average player
sadly enough i have to have a life besides this **** aswell and escorts are annoying yes
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16 Jun 2003, 17:08
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NAC Breda > *
Join Date: May 2002
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they should have closed you down for good
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16 Jun 2003, 18:01
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17 Jun 2003, 00:55
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Originally posted by Toop
having a good position in a good alliance.
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I think this is wrong you will find that you need to be more well known in the alliance then you will get the defence, You will find most HC's and officers in major alliances are often actually quite small in score as they have to spend time working on the alliance not just there planet.
Most player use BG's for attacks, so you need a good one of these so you can join good well organised attacks.
Appart from that i think you may be right, activity is the main one and friends who can contact you the second you get incoming.
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17 Jun 2003, 02:49
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eia bro
Join Date: May 2001
Location: New Zealand
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Originally posted by HobbieRogue4
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hi hobbie!
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18 Jun 2003, 07:14
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'Useless'
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wellington, NZ.
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JugJug etc
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18 Jun 2003, 07:20
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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hmm i wouldnt know!
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18 Jun 2003, 07:32
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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You must be selfish to be a top10 player, on top of that you need to be extremely active the first part of the round.
It's not necessary to cheat, altho it helps a great deal (just guessing )
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18 Jun 2003, 07:48
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The Usualsuspects
Join Date: Jan 2001
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whenever i see your forum nick Mr Juggalo i get that bloody "Mr Loverman - Shabba ranks" song in meh head
Mr Juggalo..... shabba!
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18 Jun 2003, 08:05
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Commander
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: .nz
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You dont need to be selfish at all (although in saying that, those that are selfish generally do better).
In R7 I *always* sent 2 fleets on attack and *always* had 1 fleet for defence. My defence fleet consisted of corsairs/cutlass, and my attack fleet was frigs in 1, de the other. It stayed this way until absolute stagnation (when I could only hit about 3 people that werent allied and they had less than 500 roids). I know TU did the same in most cases, whereas many others did not. (Singu had no defence fleet for over 1/2 the round, Valvalis's fleet was pure fr/de nothing less than eta 8 for most of the round, Dreadnought always had 2 fleets attacking, the other fleet farming etc)
Activity is one of the most important aspects, being available to be online 24/7 is very helpful (unless your account sharing/cheating). This doesnt mean that you *have* to be on every hour of the day.. it just means that if you get a txt or rang up, you can be online within the tick. For myself this meant being online from 11am-5am each day, and no matter where I was (uni, work, home) no more than 5 minutes away from an Internet connection, for the entire round.
Then there is alliances, empathy, friends etc etc, all of which make the good players the best. If no one likes you, they arent gonna break their backs to defend or help you, and if your alliance is winning the round, then its most likely that the planets from the said alliance will win (when was the last time the top 10 planets werent from the winning alliances?).
Then there is galaxy support (also under the friends category), as if you can have a galaxy that can support you and has the same ideas and feelings about stuff, you will do well. Its also hard for a planet to maintain a high rank when their size consists of 3/4s of the gal, although there are always exceptions with strong allied cluster support (ie Singu r7 c26).
So thats about it
oh, and if you cheat, escort and farm it can help you as well (as long as you dont get caught) just ask DTA
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18 Jun 2003, 08:42
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Good Son
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kileman
it just means that if you get a txt or rang up, you can be online within the tick. For myself this meant being online from 11am-5am each day, and no matter where I was (uni, work, home) no more than 5 minutes away from an Internet connection, for the entire round.
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18 Jun 2003, 10:06
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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what u need
an awsom 24/7 conection , a really good computer and cool friends and a great alliance
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18 Jun 2003, 10:20
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Netherlands
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kileman
Then there is alliances, empathy, friends etc etc, all of which make the good players the best. If no one likes you, they arent gonna break their backs to defend or help you, and if your alliance is winning the round, then its most likely that the planets from the said alliance will win (when was the last time the top 10 planets werent from the winning alliances?).
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18 Jun 2003, 10:21
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Re: what u need
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Originally posted by Torjus
an awsom 24/7 conection , a really good computer and cool friends and a great alliance
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18 Jun 2003, 10:38
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Internal Error
Join Date: May 2002
Location: the Netherlands
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Quote:
Originally posted by Toop
I think it's being active, being selfish, being lucky, being experienced and having a good position in a good alliance
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19 Jun 2003, 13:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 58
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What makes a good PA player?
Plain and simple: going without sleep.
Everything else is just window dressing.
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19 Jun 2003, 17:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 68
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kileman
You dont need to be selfish at all (although in saying that, those that are selfish generally do better).
In R7 I *always* sent 2 fleets on attack and *always* had 1 fleet for defence. My defence fleet consisted of corsairs/cutlass, and my attack fleet was frigs in 1, de the other. It stayed this way until absolute stagnation (when I could only hit about 3 people that werent allied and they had less than 500 roids). I know TU did the same in most cases, whereas many others did not. (Singu had no defence fleet for over 1/2 the round, Valvalis's fleet was pure fr/de nothing less than eta 8 for most of the round, Dreadnought always had 2 fleets attacking, the other fleet farming etc)
Activity is one of the most important aspects, being available to be online 24/7 is very helpful (unless your account sharing/cheating). This doesnt mean that you *have* to be on every hour of the day.. it just means that if you get a txt or rang up, you can be online within the tick. For myself this meant being online from 11am-5am each day, and no matter where I was (uni, work, home) no more than 5 minutes away from an Internet connection, for the entire round.
Then there is alliances, empathy, friends etc etc, all of which make the good players the best. If no one likes you, they arent gonna break their backs to defend or help you, and if your alliance is winning the round, then its most likely that the planets from the said alliance will win (when was the last time the top 10 planets werent from the winning alliances?).
Then there is galaxy support (also under the friends category), as if you can have a galaxy that can support you and has the same ideas and feelings about stuff, you will do well. Its also hard for a planet to maintain a high rank when their size consists of 3/4s of the gal, although there are always exceptions with strong allied cluster support (ie Singu r7 c26).
So thats about it
oh, and if you cheat, escort and farm it can help you as well (as long as you dont get caught) just ask DTA
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or the best way to win a round and prove your a good pa player is get any one even close to beating u closed or get the #1 closed so u can win aint that right kile
lo fred and TU
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20 Jun 2003, 14:46
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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Living in assieland, .nz or usa/canada fx shouldnt be bad either.
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20 Jun 2003, 17:32
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Autonomous
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: England
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Common sense, good mathematical/logical brain for target picking purposes, and the desire to win so bad that youll do almost anything.
The latter is probably the reason why most of the players who have won, or been top whatever, in one round are rarely seen again imo..
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20 Jun 2003, 23:03
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Commander
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: .nz
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Quote:
Originally posted by BDB
or the best way to win a round and prove your a good pa player is get any one even close to beating u closed or get the #1 closed so u can win aint that right kile
lo fred and TU
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