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8 Sep 2016, 06:35
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Valle is my hero
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
If it wasnt intended that you was suppose to be able to tell when a PLed fleet was launching by using the code, the code isnt working as intended.
Its a bug.
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The code awards you a def point for defending at the correct tick. What it's supposed to do. If someone has enough time to fanny on with this to send the correct ETA then tough on the attacker for PIng.
It is not a bug, the code is no behaving wrongly, there is no error in what it's output is.
As with so many wrongly labelled things from you it is just a game feature you don't like. Get over it
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8 Sep 2016, 07:07
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#152
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
The code awards you a def point for defending at the correct tick. What it's supposed to do. If someone has enough time to fanny on with this to send the correct ETA then tough on the attacker for PIng.
It is not a bug, the code is no behaving wrongly, there is no error in what it's output is.
As with so many wrongly labelled things from you it is just a game feature you don't like. Get over it
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Geezes man, i suppose you spoke to the PA development team then, and they told you this is not a bug then?
They did not intend it to be used this way, thats why _THEY ARE CHANGING IT_
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8 Sep 2016, 07:44
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
The code awards you a def point for defending at the correct tick. What it's supposed to do.
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Not sure I follow
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8 Sep 2016, 08:04
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#154
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Valle is my hero
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Cochese
Not sure I follow
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Basically if there is an pled incoming on a j scan, you can send def +1 and then check the ally def points to see if you gained a point, if not try +2 and try again. It's a VERY long winded way to find out the pl time of an inc, and butcher is using it to place the blame on bows getting boned.
The more likely scenario is his presence in the alliance is causing this. To by knowledge the 1 round they won is the one round he had no affiliation to the alliance, the same round ND, the alliance he was in cos hammered a lot
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8 Sep 2016, 09:29
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
and butcher is using it to place the blame on bows getting boned.
The more likely scenario is his presence in the alliance is causing this. To by knowledge the 1 round they won is the one round he had no affiliation to the alliance, the same round ND, the alliance he was in cos hammered a lot
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BB is not using it to justify anything. He is just someone who informs the MHs whenever he sees something wrong and after they said it was not something that needed to be corrected now, he just showed the bug to everyone so not just a few "leet" players can use it
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8 Sep 2016, 10:19
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by darkzidane
Now now mz "everyone" knows your an ult support tag and only hitting bows so ult doesn't have too. (even though you hit ult and got kicked from priv channel) (yes I'm still cheering a little for you guys )
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I shall bite
Support tags don't generally hit the people they are supposedly "supporting"....as you mention we have hit ult numerous times and roided them ( Hi Cardi )
We will hit anybody, regardless of who it is, people who come back for us, retals are obviously perfectly fine and expected, however when they keep coming back we will keep hitting them
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8 Sep 2016, 11:37
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
The code awards you a def point for defending at the correct tick. What it's supposed to do. If someone has enough time to fanny on with this to send the correct ETA then tough on the attacker for PIng.
It is not a bug, the code is no behaving wrongly, there is no error in what it's output is.
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The intent of the code is only to award a def point for defending. Not to also reveal when a prelaunched fleet is set to launch. Its output is more than what's intended. That's the bug. Butcher is right.
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Darkzidane was being sarcastic.
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8 Sep 2016, 12:40
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Cochese
Not sure I follow
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http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=201211
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Originally Posted by fortran
BB is not using it to justify anything. He is just someone who informs the MHs whenever he sees something wrong and after they said it was not something that needed to be corrected now, he just showed the bug to everyone so not just a few "leet" players can use it
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To correct you i asked the MHs if it was a punishable offence to abuse this bug.
<+Ace> since all user can do it investigations are going on on fixing it. why would ppl get closed?
Normaly abusing a bug and not reporting it would get you closed in most circumstances, but since i reported the bug weeks ago and Appocomaster was working on a fix/considering postphoning a fix, i thought i might aswell tell everyone about it.
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8 Sep 2016, 13:19
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=201211
To correct you i asked the MHs if it was a punishable offence to abuse this bug.
<+Ace> since all user can do it investigations are going on on fixing it. why would ppl get closed?
Normaly abusing a bug and not reporting it would get you closed in most circumstances, but since i reported the bug weeks ago and Appocomaster was working on a fix/considering postphoning a fix, i thought i might aswell tell everyone about it.
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8 Sep 2016, 14:04
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Gen_Chaos
That's fine. This thing doesn't make sense to us so we offered to do our part to end it. We're still open to it and have stopped targeting you, so it's up to you. Cheers
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Isn't MZ's alliance a troll tag? It's idiotic to even engage with a tag like that. If you think diplomacy is going to work then you are very naive! It's also possible that they are hitting you to keep you below Ultores seeing as they both have strong ties with one another.
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8 Sep 2016, 14:10
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
It looks like p3n is getting some heat. My guess is Ult/Bows are finishing them off. Probably a result of p3n thinking they could nap their way without any heat.
If this is the case, then it's p3n's own fault as the threat of Ult/Bows should've addressed sooner rather than letting them grow so exponentially. There's just no balls left in this game anymore. I kind of understand CT's position and it's expected that p3n won't do anything as their trait is to back down after 1-2 days of some heat.
Shame, shame, shame!
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8 Sep 2016, 14:41
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Clouds
It looks like p3n is getting some heat. My guess is Ult/Bows are finishing them off. Probably a result of p3n thinking they could nap their way without any heat.
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8 Sep 2016, 15:28
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Clouds
It looks like p3n is getting some heat. My guess is Ult/Bows are finishing them off. Probably a result of p3n thinking they could nap their way without any heat.
If this is the case, then it's p3n's own fault as the threat of Ult/Bows should've addressed sooner rather than letting them grow so exponentially. There's just no balls left in this game anymore. I kind of understand CT's position and it's expected that p3n won't do anything as their trait is to back down after 1-2 days of some heat.
Shame, shame, shame!
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tbfh, untill recently p3nguins was BowS top hostile, even though we have been NAPed with em since pt400 basicly.
And seeing Ult is hitting p3ng now id say that they prolly were the only alliance taking up a fight with the Ult/BowS/VGN juggernaut
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
Thanks Kaiba and BB for clarification. I had wondered how PL'd defense magically worked out right without anyone spilling the LT's.
Also, what mz said.
Also, Clouds, it isn't mz's alliance. It's also not a troll tag. Internet spreadsheets is serious business.
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8 Sep 2016, 18:59
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Cochese
Internet spreadsheets is serious business.
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Save energy: Be apathetic
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Clouds
It's also possible that they are hitting you to keep you below Ultores seeing as they both have strong ties with one another.
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*sigh*
We're hitting bows because we strongly believe that roiding what must be the best alliance in game at this point in time will bring us eternal glory and honor. We are in awe in the face of the efficiency of their DCs and the awesome coordination of their BCs.
An alliance with such great officers and player base surely must be the top target for any serious group, such as VORHERRSCHAFT.
Seriously. Cross my heart.
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9 Sep 2016, 18:26
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Clouds
The state of the game is quite bad. You have the Ultores and Rainbows coalition which seems to be quite strong together and then you have muppets like p3n/CT/ND who are a laughable opposition. I will bet anything that the "opposition" have napped this coalition, well p3n at least.
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you just love seeing yourself on here, i've seen some bull shite but you take the biscuit, the game is screwed by all the ult fans napping each other so nobody in that block gets hit. I remember you from way back I used to think you were a good player then but now you've become a whiny bitch, take a day off and come back with some positive suggestions.
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9 Sep 2016, 21:18
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by big-al
you just love seeing yourself on here, i've seen some bull shite but you take the biscuit, the game is screwed by all the ult fans napping each other so nobody in that block gets hit. I remember you from way back I used to think you were a good player then but now you've become a whiny bitch, take a day off and come back with some positive suggestions.
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Can't handle the truth I see. Go back to your joke of an alliance and keep failing.
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10 Sep 2016, 07:24
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Clouds
Can't handle the truth I see. Go back to your joke of an alliance and keep failing.
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i heard ult needs another support tag cause norsemen are too idle to fullfill all of ults needs
why not make a new alliance Clouds ?
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10 Sep 2016, 10:09
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
i heard ult needs another support tag cause norsemen are too idle to fullfill all of ults needs
why not make a new alliance Clouds ?
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We attacked p3n long before Ult joined in, so actually have nothing to do with helping ult.
We started hitting p3n for totally different reasons then support for ult.
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10 Sep 2016, 11:25
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Sandvold
We attacked p3n long before Ult joined in, so actually have nothing to do with helping ult.
We started hitting p3n for totally different reasons then support for ult.
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To spark more interesting discussion, what reasons?
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10 Sep 2016, 14:32
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
well, not that i disagree on any norse goal, but adv was very clear when he said norse was going to support ult win...
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10 Sep 2016, 16:00
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
One reason at least is that they refuse to hit up, just napped rb and ult.
Of course we would support ult over you.
We dont deal well with threats...
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10 Sep 2016, 16:19
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Buddah
One reason at least is that they refuse to hit up, just napped rb and ult.
Of course we would support ult over you.
We dont deal well with threats...
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Well im pretty sure that most of p3ngs fleet has been aimed at the top5 alliances this round.
Id be surprised if ND/CT/HR/VGN/Illumination has had 300+ fleets from p3ng?
Maybe hitting BowS and Norse cant be called hitting up, but both has been pretty fat and close in rankigns with p3ng during the whole round.
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10 Sep 2016, 17:48
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Well im pretty sure that most of p3ngs fleet has been aimed at the top5 alliances this round.
Id be surprised if ND/CT/HR/VGN/Illumination has had 300+ fleets from p3ng?
Maybe hitting BowS and Norse cant be called hitting up, but both has been pretty fat and close in rankigns with p3ng during the whole round.
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P3n basically threw us under the bus x2. Also they had their fair share of hitting the smaller alliances. We came to a point were we couldn't be arsed to just idle.
Ye we napped ult and said we were gonna support them if p3n came at them, but we started hitting p3n long before ult came. And never discussed with ult that we should hit em.
This was our own choice and it still is.
We've been asked why the war is still going on and basically if we stop hitting p3n everyone is left to hit bows. Which seems idiotic and boring. If we only played to support ult stop hitting p3n would prob be the smartest choice so bows could be bashed. So for us it's basically hit p3n, hit bows with every other alliance in PA or idle.
As far as I know we have had minimal coordination with ult on hitting p3n.
Also reason why the small alliances joined vs p3n in the start was because they were tired of getting ptargeted by p3n, which did that instead of fight vs the top.
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
Its funny that p3n is beeing blamed and targeted for the exact same thing norse and bows were doing
In tick 300ish ult won the round when bows and norse decided not to hit ultores but support em instead
We decided we cba to fight an impossible fight against a block of ult/bows/norse/vgn and rather idle it out well knowing that the outcome would be the same in the end. Us beeing Farmed
But now calling us the nappers is redicioulus!
Evil p3n napping ult and farming the innocent - sounds like a good headline for your propaganda
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11 Sep 2016, 06:46
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
Its funny that p3n is beeing blamed and targeted for the exact same thing norse and bows were doing
In tick 300ish ult won the round when bows and norse decided not to hit ultores but support em instead
We decided we cba to fight an impossible fight against a block of ult/bows/norse/vgn and rather idle it out well knowing that the outcome would be the same in the end. Us beeing Farmed
But now calling us the nappers is redicioulus!
Evil p3n napping ult and farming the innocent - sounds like a good headline for your propaganda
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Im not sure what theyve been telling you, but at pt300 there was no block of ult/bows/norse/vgn hitting p3ng.
Im pretty sure Norse and p3ng was even cooporating to hit BowS at the time
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Im not sure what theyve been telling you, but at pt300 there was no block of ult/bows/norse/vgn hitting p3ng.
Im pretty sure Norse and p3ng was even cooporating to hit BowS at the time
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ur right - at tick 300 (which is just an assumption, it could have been tick 288 or 377 for that matter) there was no block hitting p3n.
p3n had some fights with bows/vgn, while norse faced some hostilities with ND if i am not mistaken
p3n and bows settled for peace, but bows explained that they wouldnt be supporting anyone hitting ultores, or hit them themselves at any point of the round!
1 of the 2 or 3 nights followed where p3n ptargeted VGN btw (not in a row) - which was done, as VGN were takin the piss with p3n in the little "war" with rainbows makin it feel like VGN was the second tag of rainbows
at the same time norse decided to support ultores for roundwin! They did it telling us we wouldnt have to worry, they'd stay outside of any war between ult and p3n...
2 nights later they started targeting us
now knowing bows wouldnt help on ultores and obviously norse neither - what do you think would have happend if p3n decided to put up a fight with ultores ?
thats 3 of the top4 allies blocked
Yes we could have waged another glorious but doomed war, like we did in so many rounds before - but why is it on p3n to be the saviours of the universe ? or why did it have to be ct in so many rounds before ?
because everyone is too chicken or simply to close connected with ultores and their likes ?
really cba with the same shit over and over again - and tbfh i dont even blame ultores for it, they been around so many rounds, ofc they are tied up everywhere
the community is rotton to the bone - simply because the universe has become way too small and to tied up to each other
no i am not whining about p3n beeing smashed or loosing another round, its the fact that the next and also the very next and also the round after the very next will be the exact same shit politics and there is little to nothing you can do to stop it
ppl are tied to each other and protect each other, thats the bottom line, you can't prevent this to happen as long as those tied players make 30% and more of the active playerbase
i love this game
- no matter if i am on the loosing (usually am ) or winning side -
but maybe we got to the point where it is better to pull the plug
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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ur right - at tick 300 (which is just an assumption, it could have been tick 288 or 377 for that matter) there was no block hitting p3n.
p3n had some fights with bows/vgn, while norse faced some hostilities with ND if i am not mistaken
p3n and bows settled for peace, but bows explained that they wouldnt be supporting anyone hitting ultores, or hit them themselves at any point of the round!
1 of the 2 or 3 nights followed where p3n ptargeted VGN btw (not in a row) - which was done, as VGN were takin the piss with p3n in the little "war" with rainbows makin it feel like VGN was the second tag of rainbows
at the same time norse decided to support ultores for roundwin! They did it telling us we wouldnt have to worry, they'd stay outside of any war between ult and p3n...
2 nights later they started targeting us
now knowing bows wouldnt help on ultores and obviously norse neither - what do you think would have happend if p3n decided to put up a fight with ultores ?
thats 3 of the top4 allies blocked
Yes we could have waged another glorious but doomed war, like we did in so many rounds before - but why is it on p3n to be the saviours of the universe ? or why did it have to be ct in so many rounds before ?
because everyone is too chicken or simply to close connected with ultores and their likes ?
really cba with the same shit over and over again - and tbfh i dont even blame ultores for it, they been around so many rounds, ofc they are tied up everywhere
the community is rotton to the bone - simply because the universe has become way too small and to tied up to each other
no i am not whining about p3n beeing smashed or loosing another round, its the fact that the next and also the very next and also the round after the very next will be the exact same shit politics and there is little to nothing you can do to stop it
ppl are tied to each other and protect each other, thats the bottom line, you can't prevent this to happen as long as those tied players make 30% and more of the active playerbase
i love this game
- no matter if i am on the loosing (usually am ) or winning side -
but maybe we got to the point where it is better to pull the plug
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So much untrue statements in this post.
1. P3n and norse decided to hit bows togehter (not sure who approached who). Then after 1-2 nights p3n decide to nap bows without telling norse. Letting us fight bows and nd.
2. We kept fighting with bows/nd for quite a few days with Munkee telling that p3n would soon join in. Just wait for tick xx when nap expires. Ending up with p3n extend nap instead.
That's when norse decided oh f this. Let support ult for win. As a direct reaction from p3n's actions. p3n threw us under the bus twice. And bows were hitting us with another alliance. If bows had hit us alone, or p3n hadn't trown us under the bus we probably never would have supported ult.
p3n have never been the saviours of the univers. They've basically always been lets fight a foe for two days if it doesn't work out we'll nap em instead.
Stop blaiming anyone except ppl in your own ranks. We had a cooperation going but some wise leader you have decided to destroy that.
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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So much untrue statements in this post.
1. P3n and norse decided to hit bows togehter (not sure who approached who). Then after 1-2 nights p3n decide to nap bows without telling norse. Letting us fight bows and nd.
2. We kept fighting with bows/nd for quite a few days with Munkee telling that p3n would soon join in. Just wait for tick xx when nap expires. Ending up with p3n extend nap instead.
That's when norse decided oh f this. Let support ult for win. As a direct reaction from p3n's actions. p3n threw us under the bus twice. And bows were hitting us with another alliance. If bows had hit us alone, or p3n hadn't trown us under the bus we probably never would have supported ult.
p3n have never been the saviours of the univers. They've basically always been lets fight a foe for two days if it doesn't work out we'll nap em instead.
Stop blaiming anyone except ppl in your own ranks. We had a cooperation going but some wise leader you have decided to destroy that.
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From obversation, it looked like that p3n got hit back and they napped Bows to reduce their incoming thus left Norse out to dry. P3n has always adopted this trait when it comes to politics so I wouldn't be too shocked at it.
This is why the Ult/Bows coalition is strong because they aren't p****** when they get hit and don't backstab the other. I know I sometimes sound like a broken record when it comes to p3n, but I'm not the only who thinks they are one of the most selfish alliances in the game.
It also looks like Karma striked for p3n as Bows have been hitting them anyway. Sometimes the best defence is to stick with your allies rather than nap the enemy and leaving your allies out to dry.
P3n are used to joining the bandwagon rather than leading an assault, and they are bad allies to have as they only look out for themselves.
Also, kudos to Rainbows for improving their alliance and competing, even it it means not directly challenging #1 which I kind of understand - it's better to have solid allies.
If you guys can't find a way to challenge Ult/Bows directly then you may as well just let them finish #1/#2 every round and prepared to be farmed.
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11 Sep 2016, 12:29
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Sandvold
So much untrue statements in this post.
1. P3n and norse decided to hit bows togehter (not sure who approached who). Then after 1-2 nights p3n decide to nap bows without telling norse. Letting us fight bows and nd.
2. We kept fighting with bows/nd for quite a few days with Munkee telling that p3n would soon join in. Just wait for tick xx when nap expires. Ending up with p3n extend nap instead.
That's when norse decided oh f this. Let support ult for win. As a direct reaction from p3n's actions. p3n threw us under the bus twice. And bows were hitting us with another alliance. If bows had hit us alone, or p3n hadn't trown us under the bus we probably never would have supported ult.
p3n have never been the saviours of the univers. They've basically always been lets fight a foe for two days if it doesn't work out we'll nap em instead.
Stop blaiming anyone except ppl in your own ranks. We had a cooperation going but some wise leader you have decided to destroy that.
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we are getting closer towards the truth, arn't we ?
This sound a lot diffrent towards your original posts like
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Originally Posted by Sandvold
We attacked p3n long before Ult joined in, so actually have nothing to do with helping ult.
We started hitting p3n for totally different reasons then support for ult.
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Originally Posted by Sandvold
P3n basically threw us under the bus x2. Also they had their fair share of hitting the smaller alliances. We came to a point were we couldn't be arsed to just idle.
Ye we napped ult and said we were gonna support them if p3n came at them, but we started hitting p3n long before ult came. And never discussed with ult that we should hit em.
This was our own choice and it still is.
We've been asked why the war is still going on and basically if we stop hitting p3n everyone is left to hit bows. Which seems idiotic and boring. If we only played to support ult stop hitting p3n would prob be the smartest choice so bows could be bashed. So for us it's basically hit p3n, hit bows with every other alliance in PA or idle.
As far as I know we have had minimal coordination with ult on hitting p3n.
Also reason why the small alliances joined vs p3n in the start was because they were tired of getting ptargeted by p3n, which did that instead of fight vs the top.
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however truth has its very own ways which is strongly connected to the side of the river where you're sitting on
p3n napping bows made you support ult
p3n bashing bows would have meant bows support ult
- but apparently you would be sticking to p3n when ult comes to payback ?
hard to believe, when i remember the words: "yeah we napped up ult, but no worries we wont interfere with you and ult" - when you started targeting us shortly after.
truth said if it was 100% known bows would support ult no matter if p3n hit em or not, we most likely wouldn't have stopped hitting em and nap em, however there was a slim hope for bows to be an ally against ultores at some point (according to what bows said there werent tied with ult preticks) - so that was the primary reasons for us to nap bows
- unfortunately the round has tought us diffrent in the end
for how much incs you had to face because of p3n napping up rainbows - i don't know about that
i havnt talked to anyone of you guys at that stage myself
all i know is that you complained about it some days later and then napped up ult
from what i am told, you were well aware of us ceasefiring bows though
p3n's decission to trust in rainbows beeing a friend against ult was deffo the wrong decission
you guys jumping ship at the first sign of trouble doesnt hold much greatness either though
- and sorry to say, i don't believe youŽd have kept your word on supporting us against ult if the block to fight would have been ult/rainbows/vgn/ultsupporters
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11 Sep 2016, 12:36
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
The last two rounds are good examples to why I became disillusioned with politics in this game. It's festered for ages, but at some point an old man like me just has to admit when they can't sway people anymore like they used too.
I acknowledged I wasn't able to influence politics anymore like the past and the actions of other alliances just grated me. It's like when I let imbeciles play MissionRisk with me and Sid during 1up times - the stupid idiots would do things that wreck the game rather than playing to win (to which when everyone played to win you had very interesting games of deals going back and forth, albeit long games)
It's nice to see Bows improve - but frankly, my own experience of them were that they lied and were not to be trusted. Additionally, an alliance is only remembered for just how hard they fought and for their general contribution to the game.
The Ult/Bows duo is a dangerous combination in the game currently as it will persist across rounds and essentially requires blocking to counter. It sets a precedent to which any other competing alliance must have an answer too... and the current crop of alliances doesn't give it.
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11 Sep 2016, 14:47
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#183
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
p3n napping bows made you support ult
p3n bashing bows would have meant bows support ult
- but apparently you would be sticking to p3n when ult comes to payback ?
hard to believe, when i remember the words: "yeah we napped up ult, but no worries we wont interfere with you and ult" - when you started targeting us shortly after.
truth said if it was 100% known bows would support ult no matter if p3n hit em or not, we most likely wouldn't have stopped hitting em and nap em, however there was a slim hope for bows to be an ally against ultores at some point (according to what bows said there werent tied with ult preticks) - so that was the primary reasons for us to nap bows
- unfortunately the round has tought us diffrent in the end
for how much incs you had to face because of p3n napping up rainbows - i don't know about that
i havnt talked to anyone of you guys at that stage myself
all i know is that you complained about it some days later and then napped up ult
from what i am told, you were well aware of us ceasefiring bows though
p3n's decission to trust in rainbows beeing a friend against ult was deffo the wrong decission
you guys jumping ship at the first sign of trouble doesnt hold much greatness either though
- and sorry to say, i don't believe youŽd have kept your word on supporting us against ult if the block to fight would have been ult/rainbows/vgn/ultsupporters
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Hi M0rph. I talked with Munkee and you can have all our convo's if you feel you missed something.
As Sandvold said, we were ptargetted by Bows AND ND after joining you on bows. We arent afraid of fighting Bows, but we had too much when ND jumped in. Even Gen said earlier in this post that they did good against us. (we lost 2k roids over 5days).
I knew that p3ng took a CF, but according to munkee that was a 3 day CF. He didnt tell me that he extend the deal tho. That was BOWS telling us that he took it. Bows stopped attacking us and we settled things with ND. Same night p3ng hit our 1.10 guys with 4waves each. We retalled all incs ofc and i got so much whine from peng that we could only retal 2 planets as they only attacked 2. (lol.)
After that it all went downhill with our relation with p3ng.
While Bows ptargetted us and backstabbed us last tick last round and p3ng acting like that, we had no option but to turn to Ult. We know from former rounds that Ult can be trustet 100%.
FYI - Checked whole convo with Munkee on WA, and not ONCE have i promised to not interfer with p3ng/Ult. However I told him I would support p3ng. This was before Bows told me p3ng napped up both Ult/Bows to t600.
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you guys jumping ship at the first sign of trouble doesnt hold much greatness either though
- and sorry to say, i don't believe youŽd have kept your word on supporting us against ult if the block to fight would have been ult/rainbows/vgn/ultsupporters
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This comment annoys me alot tho, cause you blaming us for jump ship while it was p3ng who actually jumped. And I can tell you this much, we dont break our deals!
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11 Sep 2016, 16:09
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Advantix
We arent afraid of fighting Bows, but we had too much when ND jumped in. Even Gen said earlier in this post that they did good against us. (we lost 2k roids over 5days).
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This is why its so attractive to hit Norse, you never run out of roids seeing you keep initiating up again after losing roids, and you dont even defend your planets either.
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11 Sep 2016, 18:06
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
Happy to share logs of our round if people want them. Either message me for them or get the nod from the moderators on here.
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11 Sep 2016, 19:31
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
Remove alliance defence fleet.
It was intended to help smaller alliances. It helps the bigger alliances more.
Remove alliance defence fleet.
Remove alliance defence fleet.
What did you say Caj?
Oh right yes. The blatantly obvious
Remove alliance defence fleet
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11 Sep 2016, 19:33
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Munkee
Happy to share logs of our round if people want them. Either message me for them or get the nod from the moderators on here.
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Provided it's on a link and not massively offensive I'm OK with it
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11 Sep 2016, 19:55
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idle
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Germany
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
I want to bring it to an End here
AS the only reason for me to post was to express now hillarious it is to state p3n is Beeing hit because they ptargeted the smaller alliances
And AS we saw in reality bottom feeeing was the least of a reason for norse to hit p3n
Propaganda to get some smaller tags to join instead
Nothing else
Now advantix, i OFC cant proove the following log isnt faked to me, but its what i am on about.
Logged after you napped ult
[20:46, 8/25/2016]*advantix:*You wont see any norse inc, we wont interfer with you and ult
[20:47, 8/25/2016]*advantix:*so it stays the same between us
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11 Sep 2016, 19:58
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speed demon
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
I think I am correct in saying Norse hit p3nguins because we were bored........
and also because we are 4th and you are 3rd...
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11 Sep 2016, 21:17
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#190
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caj
Remove alliance defence fleet.
It was intended to help smaller alliances. It helps the bigger alliances more.
Remove alliance defence fleet.
Remove alliance defence fleet.
What did you say Caj?
Oh right yes. The blatantly obvious
Remove alliance defence fleet
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What are we gonna use the 20 extra planets non-scoring planets for then? Without the alliance fleet they might have to play the game
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11 Sep 2016, 21:30
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#191
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
we are getting closer towards the truth, arn't we ?
This sound a lot diffrent towards your original posts like
or
however truth has its very own ways which is strongly connected to the side of the river where you're sitting on
p3n napping bows made you support ult
p3n bashing bows would have meant bows support ult
- but apparently you would be sticking to p3n when ult comes to payback ?
hard to believe, when i remember the words: "yeah we napped up ult, but no worries we wont interfere with you and ult" - when you started targeting us shortly after.
truth said if it was 100% known bows would support ult no matter if p3n hit em or not, we most likely wouldn't have stopped hitting em and nap em, however there was a slim hope for bows to be an ally against ultores at some point (according to what bows said there werent tied with ult preticks) - so that was the primary reasons for us to nap bows
- unfortunately the round has tought us diffrent in the end
for how much incs you had to face because of p3n napping up rainbows - i don't know about that
i havnt talked to anyone of you guys at that stage myself
all i know is that you complained about it some days later and then napped up ult
from what i am told, you were well aware of us ceasefiring bows though
p3n's decission to trust in rainbows beeing a friend against ult was deffo the wrong decission
you guys jumping ship at the first sign of trouble doesnt hold much greatness either though
- and sorry to say, i don't believe youŽd have kept your word on supporting us against ult if the block to fight would have been ult/rainbows/vgn/ultsupporters
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I said we fight p3n for totally different reasons then supporting ult. We soley attack you since u threw us under the bus x2. And not being upfront about it. How much inc can be checked later, cba to make an estimate but bows ptargeting + nd lolwaving 3x planets x 3 waves. Not really that important either.
That ult came in later is not the same as we attack p3n because we support ult.
If we had said we was gonna fight ult/bows we would have. We faught ult last round and we fought bows this. Not saying we would win, or had any chance of winning, but we don't have a big problem fighting those who are better/more members then us.
Also someone brought up a good point. We cba to be bored for another round!
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11 Sep 2016, 21:47
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speed demon
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
Im sure we only attack p3nguins because after 1 day of idling I was so frustrated at no attacks I insisted we start a war with p3nguins?
Caj gets idle thumbs when idling.
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11 Sep 2016, 22:07
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Caj
Im sure we only attack p3nguins because after 1 day of idling I was so frustrated at no attacks I insisted we start a war with p3nguins?
Caj gets idle thumbs when idling.
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Yeah, i was blaming it on you allready. All the FCs, and early day "retalls" when we hadnt been hitting Norse, figured out it was you being the man behind it all
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11 Sep 2016, 23:04
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
Im a loose cannon.
Advantix has managed really well to control me and point me in the right direction
(most of the time)
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Im a loose cannon.
Advantix has managed really well to control me and point me in the right direction
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Yeah, if Norse wasnt the most unpopular alliance in PA, im.sure you can take them there
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12 Sep 2016, 09:33
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
I dont know about everyone else, but a round only starts for me when i see ult planets on a sheet.
It always makes me feel happy.
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Yeah, if Norse wasnt the most unpopular alliance in PA, im.sure you can take them there
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I'm not going away. And surely if my attacks got under your skin so much that's a good reflection on my BC abilities.
beware I won't have advantix holding me back next round
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12 Sep 2016, 12:43
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
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Originally Posted by Xoca
I dont know about everyone else, but a round only starts for me when i see ult planets on a sheet.
It always makes me feel happy.
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
I wanna make a Qoute from Chenchaos in EOR ceremony last round:
<[Bows]GenChaos> Want to give a shout-out to the Ult guys for once again proving they are good friends and trustworthy allies.
Good that you guys can be trusted too :P
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Re: R68, who plays? who wins?
There's no need for that pal!
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