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Unread 18 May 2003, 15:33   #1
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Mercury & Solace Would Like to Thank

I guess this is going to double as a thank you thread to both my galaxy and the people who have made the round worth playing. I doubt it's very interesting if your not one of the 9 players in 21:1 or one of the people close to us in that case why are you bothering to read this ? Morons, I bet you'll all try and make some oh so funny comment about it being boring, looks like I beat you to it haha me > you all.

21:1:1 Hicks Eclipse Senior Officer – I unfortunately sucked this round.

21:1:2 Pring Eclipse Military Officer – Cheers for all the support this round you did an amazing job holding us together mid round after I went inactive, I just hope it doesn't screw up your exams too much. I'm going to miss you a heck of a lot but I guess we'll have just MSN now. Note: We're not gay I swear. Thanks for embarrassing us all in #Planetarion you muppet.

21:1:3 Koelsch Unallied (Kicked and roided by ToT with a day left) – Got in via hupa who never started. Despite an utterly lame 4/5s of the round you finished strongly when a lot of our bigger players had stopped pulling in asteroids. Nice rank even if you are a kraut.

21:1:4 slapmonkey ToT – The person I had most doubts about at the start due to not really knowing you and you being the only person who wasn't ex Fury in the galaxy. You proved me wrong on such a scale its unbelievable truly one of the great players left in the game and a top guy as well.

21:1:5 Germania Eclipse Senior Officer – Cheers for everything really, cheers for making me the player I am today, cheers for being a stabilizer to my rather hot headed emotional side, cheers for being a good laugh on IRC which I'm sure most people wouldn't expect you to be. Good luck in the future even if you are a hobbit.

21:1:6 Xander Eclipse – You could whine for Norway, if it's not about the targets it's about the release time or someone taking first picks. Luckily you a good guy when your not bitching I guess I'm not one to accuse other of whining as I'm sure Carson will testify. You played to my expectations you're a great player who if anything deserved Top 10, well done maybe one day in the future I'll get to play with you again.

21:1:7 Dreadnought Eclipse Military Officer – Again someone who I had doubts about despite you being another of the dwindling supply of great players left in the game. Every told me that you'd screw us about but your one of the people I've got on best with probably because you think typing in caps and spamming is as funny as I do. Good round though you should have been higher, thanks for giving me the opportunity to play with you.

21:1:8 blascoke ToT – I was debating leaving you out yet again just to piss you off but that'd be unfunny. Know you for a long time now thanks for always being loyal and always been straight with me I don’t think I'd have been able to finish the round without you.

21:1:9 Kahless Eclipse – Mr inactivity himself ! And there was me fighting so hard to get you in, it's a pity we didn't get hupa and you together you'd have made a great team. Thanks for playing a good round another one of great players who came through Germania's Round 6 Wrath.

21:1:10 Mi5 ToT – Suicide king, you lost about what ? 50 million score altogether ? ta mate you who lost us the round didn't I tell everyone he was a spy sent to mess us about. We all hate you now Miffy. Not really. For one of the most inactive people around you really are an amazing player it's just a pity about someone dragging you off IRC too much. Good luck in the future mate sorry you didn't make Top 10.

I think Round 9 was the most dull since Round 5 I won't make any excuses for it because I probably part of the reason for the boredom. I can't really talk about any great battles we fought or any great wave attacks we lead or any gallant rear guard actions in fact I can struggle to think up anything interesting which has happened.

It's so disappointing that the round ended where it did, if it had run for all of another two or three day we would have won. But that's life, congratulations to MelAN and everyone in 18:2 and most of all congratulations to sliekas who has achieved a truly unique feat, I never knew what to expect of you before this round but you truly are the complete player. Good luck with the degree.

Considering the speed with which we rebuilt a galaxy from which 12 out of 15 quit after Round 7 we've done amazingly well, does anyone remember the panic Email from 4 days before signups asking why I'd not seen some of you in weeks (lo hupa and sugar). What came together was arguably the best galaxy I've played in, it's supported each other both in game and out of game and for that I'm thankful, if anything I'm a bit disappointed because as when each round ends galaxies tend to grow apart with no common bonds to hold each other together, this is one of the closest galaxies I've been in due to the size so I pray that won't happen I want to see every idling in #M&S when I pop online anyway. On to the thank you list I guess, inevitably I'll miss people but I guess that's just tough it doesn't mean that I don't appreciate what ever you did it just means I don't have a perfect memory.

Eclipse: In a lot of ways I'm quite bitter at the way things turned out, you failed to protect us when we needed you to protect us the most, hence why much of my galaxy chose not to tag Eclipse. I guess that's the final argument against the board trolls, Eclipse isn't Fury, if it was Fury and ToT dared send a single ship at my galaxy none of their HC would have ended the round with over 100 asteroids. Despite that it's been a fun alliance to be a part of, the only truly elite alliance left in Planetarion you'll do great in the future even if you are demonized by idiots like Rumad. In particular thanks to:

Ev, planet37, Sleepless, Le Sat, Eldan, Zaragota, Xani, Kafka, Iceaxe, Bluearmy, BaSSe, Real James, Fork, Subcon, Damon, vavlalis, Focht, Morden, KruMAX, York, MelAN, Lockhead, TomKat, Xeracy, Beech, Kyreal, arfa, zecco, Equinox, Donkey Punch, Denniz, Parthos, StormSheild, Sliekas, Rob, Tempestuous, elviz, Snowseal, Zhil.

ToT: You owe us one hell of an explanation Marduk. For those of you who don't know, with two days left of the round Cluster 20 launched a lemming run at wassaa, they asked one of our ToT to defend he told them they could have his larger ships but his fighters were escorting a galaxy mate to a target. ToT promptly kicked him for not having fighters home to defense (I'd love to hear how your Xands attack) then launched 500k ships at him and roided him. That's a terrible way to treat a loyal member who had always helped you out (Check his defense points). Marduk even told him there was a different motive for them kicking him (Apparently 18:2 being largely German), what you promised me never took place, Wakko cancelled it, any reason why ? All the same thanks to:

Milkey. Frodo, lightening, Sonnenbomber, QS (Your gals asteroids helped us and stopped fence sitters doing well), Abe, waassaa.

Misc people and galaxies: Rabba, Starbreeze (sorry if I was rather hostile last night), Mano, Dave, ilh, cp, cbk, Heartshunter, SUPERCATZZ, Fred, lrytas, zato, Irvine, Jackal, 20:1, 4:1, 15:1, 26:4, Esthar, Smashball, 19:7.

I'm proud to have almost without a doubt the most prestigious galaxy in Planetarion history (M&S 3 – 2 Esthar ELDAN !). Thanks to everyone who has ever played under this great banner or helped us in any way. Unfortunately with the end of private galaxies this could be the end but who knows. Mercury & Solace signing off once again.

Round 2 - 12th [FURY] Mercury and Solace[MS] (7:19)
Round 3 - 9th [Fury]Mercury&Solace[MS][RA*] (6:9)
Round 4 - 21st [WTF] Mercury & Solace [FU2] (170:2)
Round 5 - 27th [Fury-VtS] Mercury & Solace (25:6)
Round 6 - 217th [Fury]Mercury & Solace[VtS] (1:16)
Round 7 - 2nd Mercury and #Solace (12:13)
Round 9 - 2nd Mercury & Solace (21:1)

This post has a second meaning for me, it's quite possibly one of the last I'll ever make. I wanted to go out on a high but I guess that won't happen. Thanks to the people who've made the game enjoyable for me there's so many it's untrue, I hate to think how long it would take me to reel off names of the people who've been there for me in the last 9 rounds but without being specific I'd probably say thanks to anyone who's participated in the community in general it's people like you who have made the game what it is for better or for worse. I just moved all my IRC logs to a different folder and got ready to delete the dreaded program. For now, goodbye.

- Mercury & Solace Forever.
- Fury till I die.
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Unread 18 May 2003, 15:50   #2
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I was wrong about you.

Having actually talked to you for a while on IRC I can see you are one of the great PAers.

I wish you good luck at uni, and with your girlfriend.

Have a good one
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Unread 18 May 2003, 15:56   #3
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Really an impressive record! Despite what you said I am pretty sure you will be back for round 10


On a sidenote (from the revolt? thread):


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Well technically ToT are in the right the terms of the alliance are that if they kick a member the other side can't protect him, it's a ToT internal issue so there's nothing we can do about it. Anyway it's over now nothing we can do and no sense in bitching about it I'm just thankful ToT weren't really nasty about it and didn't wave him.

Should probably apologise to Marduk for my outburst on him, I was a bit emotional after seeing dreams shattered yet again.



Withholding defense? When? Iirc ToT weren't targetted that often in the last couple of days and I am pretty sure they did well even without the ships of your gal mate.

I would expect that a gal as prestigeous and long lasting as M&S would care a little bit more about their members and defend them even if that means to drop a place in the rankings or to piss off one or the other HC. The round is over tomorrow anyway.

And as a Brit (I assume you are one) you really should know how to stop a Nazi invasion

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Unread 18 May 2003, 15:59   #4
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ToT lied to Focht basically, they made him some promises about future actions, Focht calmed us all down and stopped us defending against them but then ToT failed to deliver what they promised him. I'm sure they'll tell all If I had a choice I'd have covered it in gal which was easy enough, then had the entire Eclipse fleet catch them on the way home. I guess I'm not famed for diplomacy.
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Would have been nice to see 21:1 def up the ex ToT against his inc.

In my gal (37:6) we frequently risked the hostilities of Eclipse & ToT by defending Elysium members in gal.

In the end, nothing happened of it, and the Ely kept their roids (mostly). Pity that didnt happen with Koelsch.
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Good round, M&S.

Good round, Hicks.

I'm proud for having played with you over even more then one rounds.
A shame that our gals didnt work together as much as we wanted... :-) Clearly our own fault, but - WE RULED!

Thanks Germ, Pring, Hicks, etc, thanks M&S.

Hicks, I'm sure you will miss us and we will miss you.

Come back soon, matey.
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gl hicks sorry to see you go mate, all the best and it was fun being in Eclipse with you

hope to see you lurking about here at some stage, face it we all do . If not then the gets it
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as a former member of this galaxy (rd6) for a time, i wanted to say well done again this round.

The gal has maintained a standard that is above many and will be remembered in the history of the game.


I left on hard feelings back in Rd6 but we simply had different ideas and tactics back then..... good thing is u guys survived it all and came out the better for it.


Contact me anytime via icq Hicks. u know where ill be.


Joining you on the retirement bus heading out of PAville \o/
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Been nice playing along with you.

Ur a fun lad.
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Pleasure playing with you Hicks, i'll cya around
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Congrats Hicks and well played. Despite the fact we've never really talked that much, I've always held great respect for you.

Whether you choose to continue in Planetarion or go off to Real Life, all the best.

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21:1:2 Pring Eclipse Military Officer – Cheers for all the support this round you did an amazing job holding us together mid round after I went inactive, I just hope it doesn't screw up your exams too much. I'm going to miss you a heck of a lot but I guess we'll have just MSN now. Note: We're not gay I swear. Thanks for embarrassing us all in #Planetarion you muppet.

21:1:10 Mi5 ToT – Suicide king, you lost about what ? 50 million score altogether ? ta mate you who lost us the round didn't I tell everyone he was a spy sent to mess us about. We all hate you now Miffy. Not really. For one of the most inactive people around you really are an amazing player it's just a pity about someone dragging you off IRC too much. Good luck in the future mate sorry you didn't make Top 10.
Well done Pring, you should of quit a long time ago m8

Mi5, when you jump from Ely for ToT? Nice to see you still play the same style wise as me, I didn't quite get to lose 50 million score though, was pretty close to it though. Lost a lot more roids than you though.
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ToT = Backstabbing lamers +++

Didn't wanna reply to this one out of respect to Hicks...

however, facts are a ToT member in ur gal was kicked (for whatever reason, thats ToT's internal problem not yours).
Now having kicked him, he thus becomes allianceless.

I am sure 21:1 has np with allies roiding allianceless planets in allied gals, after all thats what you did to alot of ecl and ToT gals.

Seems to me, what goes around comes around.

Hicks pls go back to the accept second place with dignaty speech you made in #planetarion, it is much more befitting a player and person of your standard.

dreadnaught, ur comments are lame.

backstabbing would be to attack allies...we didn't
if attacking an allianceless planet in an allied gal is backstabbing..what does that make your whole gal ?

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Congrats M&S. I remember the original R2 galaxy and a few of the "personalities" in there. It'll be sad to see that tag leave the game.
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would have been even better if ToT attacked you at 5:45 am sending a mail to Hicks saying
"seit 5 Uhr 45 wird zurueckgeschossen!"

or something along the lines like

"We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for the two countries and for Europe.

We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as Symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again."


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Dreadnought u little immature kiddie ( http://gallery.netgamers.org/view.ph...num=1053271637 )stfu

only thing u can do is flaming. stop it, no1 is interested in. ur gal wouldnt have been No1 with those roids ToT took. U only post one side, and u rnt able to think about the other side. Grow up and accept decisions other ppl do. u (and Hicks)behave like a angry little kiddie. afaik eclipse HC was/were informed before ToT launched their fleets, and for sure, if eclipse HC was/were against it, they wouldnt have launch! so start flaming against ur HC and stop flaming against ToT who obvisously proved that they r a great alliance
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Well done M&S, u clearly were one of the best ET gals this round.
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Was fun playing with you, when i joined your gal in r7 i had a lot of fun. Shame that due to some rl issues my activity couldn't keep up with my normal standars and M&S standars.

I lost contact with the gal but after i had the luck to end up in the same par. with you guys aswell turned out great. Most of you guys i actually learned this round.

Though defending you the last day of the round made me just drop out of the top 100 i think i can say it was a great time


And about ToT you are so darn right, i have never seen an alliance backstabbing and turning facts on friends this much before. And using their members as some brainless peons who they can manipulate, that's why you guys will never have the best players in the game.

Well GL in life and i'm sure i'll see you around

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And about ToT you are so darn right, i have never seen an alliance backstabbing and turning facts on friends this much before. And using their members as some brainless peons who they can manipulate.


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only thing u can do is flaming. stop it, no1 is interested in. ur gal wouldnt have been No1 with those roids ToT took. U only post one side, and u rnt able to think about the other side. Grow up and accept decisions other ppl do. u (and Hicks)behave like a angry little kiddie. afaik eclipse HC was/were informed before ToT launched their fleets, and for sure, if eclipse HC was/were against it, they wouldnt have launch! so start flaming against ur HC and stop flaming against ToT who obvisously proved that they r a great alliance
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if attacking an allianceless planet in an allied gal is backstabbing..what does that make your whole gal ?

waassaa
You did what worse worse, u kicked sum1 for offering frigates instead of fi/co

Also, QS pulled his defence to attack with

So maybe u should kick him aswell

Also, why did you tell your members he didnt defenc very often, that was a blatant LIE, if you feel you need to lie to your members you yourself are admitting you are wrong
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Congrats Hicks & the rest of the 21:1

Ya all came close to winning, so close.. but like u told me last night, there's more honour being backstabbed and finish with silver, than to backstab for Victory. Ur gal and mine was lot alike (both picked a side and remained loyal to it's allies & to each other, and that counts alot). Shame i didn't get to know ya all better.

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And about ToT you are so darn right, i have never seen an alliance backstabbing and turning facts on friends this much before. And using their members as some brainless peons who they can manipulate, that's why you guys will never have the best players in the game.

Well GL in life and i'm sure i'll see you around

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If your gal mates didn't like the decisions made by the hc, they were free to leave, with no ties, I am sure they would have been allowed into Ecl so np for them.

You are an arrogant person in the extreme, the kind that makes pa hard sometimes, pls think a little more in adult terms, and realise decisions are made for the good of an alliance, not to suit galaxy plans.

if M&S want to run things for M&S then form an alliance, don't expect alliance to bend over backwards cause u r good players(not u xani). learn to play for the alliance not to use it to grow.

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You should have won, M&S will be the #1 in my eyes for this round. I came on too late to do anything regarding the ToT guy (I would have sent to defend him) but no matter. I'm sure many people will consider your galaxy top.

Thanks for your support throughout this round - without M&S I would never have achieved my final objective of being top 100.

Eclipse is not Fury, but it was a home away from home to dish it out for this round and prove once more that the ex-Fury still had it in them.

You did Eclipse and Fury proud.

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if M&S want to run things for M&S then form an alliance, don't expect alliance to bend over backwards cause u r good players(not u xani). learn to play for the alliance not to use it to grow.

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Koelsch (PrinzK) did play for his alliance,

ToT told tot members he alliance hopped

FACT: He was ToT all round

ToT said he didnt Defend

FACT: He was one of the most active defenders

i show utter disguist in ToT's actions
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Didn't wanna reply to this one out of respect to Hicks...

however, facts are a ToT member in ur gal was kicked (for whatever reason, thats ToT's internal problem not yours).
Now having kicked him, he thus becomes allianceless.

I am sure 21:1 has np with allies roiding allianceless planets in allied gals, after all thats what you did to alot of ecl and ToT gals.

Seems to me, what goes around comes around.

Hicks pls go back to the accept second place with dignaty speech you made in #planetarion, it is much more befitting a player and person of your standard.

dreadnaught, ur comments are lame.

backstabbing would be to attack allies...we didn't
if attacking an allianceless planet in an allied gal is backstabbing..what does that make your whole gal ?

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You mean it'd be far more convenient for ToT if he didn't make a fuss about it because you'd then have to attempt some sort of explaination of exactly what warranted the kicking and how that planet was hostile to the extent of being a valid target (granted you usually arent concerned about whether planets have been hostile or not lo 9:4 nuetrals ). In short if M&S drag this out it'd be a big PR coup for ToT and mar their winning round.
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You did what worse worse, u kicked sum1 for offering frigates instead of fi/co
false #1: I didn't kick him

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false #2. the only thing I told my members was he was asked to def and didn't thus he was kicked, this is in fact whta i was told.

and as i stated above, it all has nothing to do with M&S or Ecl, if ToT has reason kick its own members.

maybe if M&S showed more willingness to be with thier alliances and not so super 1337 i would feel sorry for them.
but they don't and niether am I so sorry, although certain members I do feel sorry for.

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Hehe lol Waassaa you talking about things like an adult.

Strange that in all 9 rounds you are the first person i encountered that i had personal problems with.

Most people i played with said something different about me.

Maybe you should check yourself first ?
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You mean it'd be far more convenient for ToT if he didn't make a fuss about it because you'd then have to attempt some sort of explaination of exactly what warranted the kicking and how that planet was hostile to the extent of being a valid target (granted you usually arent concerned about whether planets have been hostile or not lo 9:4 nuetrals ). In short if M&S drag this out it'd be a big PR coup for ToT and mar their winning round.
no i mean he is ill informed if at all.
we don't have to explain to anyone but our members, and funny enough none of them have asked (not me at least).
As for the hostile part. I asked for recalls from LCH/ToT dominated gals many times in later stages of round, I even asked whay the attack was being carried out, answer was always "planet has roids". As I said, what goes around comes around.

As for what M&S think or say, pls, they are a great gal and some good players, but ToT is little concerned what they think.

Eclipse were our allies, not M&S, something some ppl in M&S seem to forget.

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Hehe lol Waassaa you talking about things like an adult.

Strange that in all 9 rounds you are the first person i encountered that i had personal problems with.

Most people i played with said something different about me.

Maybe you should check yourself first ?
my last post here its getting to flammy

xani shame i deleted ur abusive msges, where u were telling me u would have me attacked in para and so on.

I generly have problems with ego kiddies yes, I blame myself totally, I will work on it though.
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no i mean he is ill informed if at all.
we don't have to explain to anyone but our members, and funny enough none of them have asked (not me at least).
As for the hostile part. I asked for recalls from LCH/ToT dominated gals many times in later stages of round, I even asked whay the attack was being carried out, answer was always "planet has roids". As I said, what goes around comes around.

As for what M&S think or say, pls, they are a great gal and some good players, but ToT is little concerned what they think.

Eclipse were our allies, not M&S, something some ppl in M&S seem to forget.

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In short you're saying ToT will offer no official (or otherwise) explaination for this action which went a long way to costing M&S the #1 spot. That's weak, and that will leave people to draw their on conclusions which will be based on what M&S has said on this thread.

i.e. Foul play.
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By u i obviously mean ToT
well thought out reply of the if you know no better do a stupid flame variety.

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I just wish I had been awake when that 'retal' was launched

But there's no point in going over that now, I'm sure people can make up their own minds about it.
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Telling others shouldnt act childish... ts ts ts. How mature is that sentence? Raise above ur penis-fears Hicks, I know u can!!!
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In short you're saying ToT will offer no official or otherwise explaination for this action which went a long way to costing M&S the #1 spot. That's weak, and that will leave people to draw their on conclusions which will be based on what M&S has said on this thread.

i.e. Foul play.
ffs i wanna stop posting

foul play ?
how

I understand what M&S are saying in full, those that can form a sentence at least (aimed at dread).

Do alliances post here every time they kick a member, I think not.

Did we have the right to attack that planet, yes. I am sure we would have seen alot of Eclipse defense if not.

so all go and plan for 9.5 or 10.
this round is finished, this debate changes nothing
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Even if you kick a member for not having the appriopriate def (which is pretty lame already) then it is pretty sick to try to **** his round in the last few days.

A pretty childish and immature act.

Surely one of the lamest ways to treat your member base and reminding me a bit of the Valy incident in an earlier round. Some people have just to little respect for the game and the people playing in it.

Btw I wonder how the other 3 ToT members in 21:1 felt about it.

Don't think it mattered 13 the million in the end though. And 18:2 even defended 21:1 on a lemmingsrun on the last day so I think there was little problem between the top gals.

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Congrats M&S on a great round.

Hope you return for round 10 at least Hicks.
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can't seem to remember M&S complaining about the Tot ships defending Ecl planets on the lemming run on them this morning either.

i don't wanna be in this discussion.

ToT didn't backstab
ToT stood by Eclipse when the odds looked in favour of WE
A few ppl being childish and angry at not winning won't ruin the reputation of a great alliance.

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foul play ?
how

I understand what M&S are saying in full, those that can form a sentence at least (aimed at dread).

Do alliances post here every time they kick a member, I think not.

Did we have the right to attack that planet, yes. I am sure we would have seen alot of Eclipse defense if not.

so all go and plan for 9.5 or 10.
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Well I entered into this with an open mind, however I've pressed you for explaination and you've continually refused to offer any insight into ToT's actions let alone an alteria motive.

You've been defencive
"Do alliances post here every time they kick a member, I think not."
Not many kicks of members are quite so significant.

You've seen two Eclipse HC state that they do not consider the 'retal' valid.

Your reluctance to not even begin account for ToT's actions to any degree let alone post the HCs full reasons with detailed explaination and cooberating evidence has successfully convinced me this was a vile and conniving maneuver in order to secure the #1 spot for 18:2.

Put quite simply, if the action was innocent you would have had no compunction about dispelling M&S's accusations.
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ToT: You owe us one hell of an explanation Marduk. For those of you who don't know, with two days left of the round Cluster 20 launched a lemming run at wassaa, they asked one of our ToT to defend he told them they could have his larger ships but his fighters were escorting a galaxy mate to a target. ToT promptly kicked him for not having fighters home to defense (I'd love to hear how your Xands attack) then launched 500k ships at him and roided him. That's a terrible way to treat a loyal member who had always helped you out (Check his defense points). Marduk even told him there was a different motive for them kicking him (Apparently 18:2 being largely German), what you promised me never took place, Wakko cancelled it, any reason why ? All the same thanks to:

Milkey. Frodo, lightening, Sonnenbomber, QS (Your gals asteroids helped us and stopped fence sitters doing well), Abe, waassaa.

1. As I have been the BC on that def-coordination, I will have to tell you that you are completly wrong:

This is what happened: We needed eta 5 def to avoid ToT loosing score and roids. I pmed all para1-player or called em. PrinzK or Koelsch said that he needs his ships for flaking a galm8s this tick, so the fleet was NOT launched at that time. He offered me BS/CR and astropods well knowing that i need eta 5 only. In addition he said he needs his E and if he does not get any roids off it, he wont launch.
After telling him that roids 24 hrs b4 tickstop are nearly worthless as his galm8 cant grab more than 500 (500k score if they are with no losses), he still refused.

2. Nm of the roids, u took it from an eclpise-recruit, the 2 elys in my gal didnt loose anything. pld lamer

3. i am not surprised ur galaxy did well, with the way u play the game it aint a prob (i will not go into further details, because i dont want to write a 10k words essay). AND I AM VERY HAPPY U DIDNT WIN THIS ROUND NOR ANY OTHER ROUND, because that privilege should go to ppl that dont act immoral in any way.
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1. As I have been the BC on that def-coordination, I will have to tell you that you are completly wrong:

This is what happened: We needed eta 5 def to avoid ToT loosing score and roids. I pmed all para1-player or called em. PrinzK or Koelsch said that he needs his ships for flaking a galm8s this tick, so the fleet was NOT launched at that time. He offered me BS/CR and astropods well knowing that i need eta 5 only. In addition he said he needs his E and if he does not get any roids off it, he wont launch.
After telling him that roids 24 hrs b4 tickstop are nearly worthless as his galm8 cant grab more than 500 (500k score if they are with no losses), he still refused.

2. Nm of the roids, u took it from an eclpise-recruit, the 2 elys in my gal didnt loose anything. pld lamer

3. i am not surprised ur galaxy did well, with the way u play the game it aint a prob (i will not go into further details, because i dont want to write a 10k words essay). AND I AM VERY HAPPY U DIDNT WIN THIS ROUND NOR ANY OTHER ROUND, because that privilege should go to ppl that dont act immoral in any way.
4. I want to say thank you for the 1,2k roids from Koelsch, I recalled my roid- and bashfleet to keep the cap for others, but the parsed battle reports made me smile bridely a whole evening long. thx


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