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Kalie · 23 Apr 2003, 05:53

We end hereby all ties with Zenith. We thank them to have been great allies and wish them all the best/luck further in this round.

[FAnG-HC]Irvine

WipeOut · 23 Apr 2003, 13:08

So I can finally publish Zenith's memberlist now?

niwaie · 23 Apr 2003, 13:11

can we get some Aneu quotes from FAnG now?

hAl · 23 Apr 2003, 13:16

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Originally posted by WipeOut
So I can finally publish Zenith's memberlist now?

The FAnG memberslist might also be apprciated by some people here mayby ?

davidb · 23 Apr 2003, 14:18

Aneu has got rl probs and aint on much atm so doubtful u wil get anything from him.

p.s fang why has it taken u this long?, zenith died/"turned into a bg" ages ago
:e_chick:

Fleet_Multiplex · 23 Apr 2003, 14:20

zeniths attack on my gal last night was nothing more than comical.

Paine · 23 Apr 2003, 18:09

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Originally posted by Kalie
We end hereby all ties with Zenith. We thank them to have been great allies and wish them all the best/luck further in this round.

[FAnG-HC]Irvine

Yaaaay... more action in the Universe

Paine

MadeMan · 23 Apr 2003, 18:35

gl mister irvine -__-

WipeOut · 23 Apr 2003, 20:13

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Originally posted by hAl
The FAnG memberslist might also be apprciated by some people here mayby ?

I have that one too, but out of respect for LEFF never posted it.

If you need a certain coordinate though, feel free to pm me hal.

Wrath of Azure · 23 Apr 2003, 20:16

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Originally posted by Fleet_Multiplex
zeniths attack on my gal last night was nothing more than comical.

I still can't believe that was a real attack

Baco · 23 Apr 2003, 20:22

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Originally posted by niwaie
can we get some Aneu quotes from FAnG now?

plz?

Fighters · 23 Apr 2003, 23:16

QazokRouge5 · 25 Apr 2003, 03:37

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Originally posted by Fleet_Multiplex
zeniths attack on my gal last night was nothing more than comical.

They finally made an attack?

I gave up spying on them after 6 weeks when someone finally said

"Hey... lets make an attack thingee tonight on some people without high scores."

Kalie · 25 Apr 2003, 06:34

Well we hoped Zenith could pick it up somewhere in the round but it gone worse and worse. They are nice people dont get them wrong. /me salutes Zenith

WipeOut · 25 Apr 2003, 09:31

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Originally posted by Kalie
Well we hoped Zenith could pick it up somewhere in the round but it gone worse and worse. They are nice people dont get them wrong. /me salutes Zenith

They are very nice indeed, they are friendly and the likes, they are however above all, incredibly stupid security-wise and alliance-wise.

I managed to become HC in Zenith under a false ident within 3 days, obtain the memberlist and laugh my arse off.

-CP- · 25 Apr 2003, 09:43

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Originally posted by WipeOut
They are very nice indeed, they are friendly and the likes, they are however above all, incredibly stupid security-wise and alliance-wise.

I managed to become HC in Zenith under a false ident within 3 days, obtain the memberlist and laugh my arse off.

Well.. The decision wasn't that bad..

You do have a little bit of experience in that area..

Too bad for them you where just another lousy spy.. hehe

WipeOut · 25 Apr 2003, 09:50

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Originally posted by -CP-
Well.. The decision wasn't that bad.. You do have a little bit of experience in that area.. Too bad for them you where just another lousy spy.. hehe

Heh, I just did it to proove 'mistah in the loop - big boy' Aneu that his alliance is crap.

Which it is, or should I say was?

Anyway, off to uni

hAl · 25 Apr 2003, 10:00

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Originally posted by WipeOut
I managed to become HC in Zenith under a false ident within 3 days, obtain the memberlist and laugh my arse off.

Laughable indeed if it wasn't so pathetic you think you need that kind of tactics against a rather small alliance. We alos had several people from fang infiltrating (or trying to at least) in our alliance and I find it very pathetic people really feel they need to play like that. The smaller alliances have great difficulty in recruiting decnet players as they are all drawn to alliances on the winning side of wars. That means any talented player is likely to be promoted fast true the rank (allthough mayby not in three days

).

As a smaller alliance you cannot fully protect yourself from spies properly and keep up a decent recruitment rate. If people want to spy then go to Eclipse or WP or ToT to spy on them before claiming it on these boards. Still a pathetic way to play this game but at least that could be claimed as a better acomplishment.

hAl

WipeOut · 25 Apr 2003, 10:13

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Originally posted by hAl
....

hAl

To inform you, I did not join that alliance under my own nick, I made one up and created an identity and reputation around it. Secondly, I did not use ANY of the information I obtained against them (apart from bashing Aneu's planet I have to admit). The memberlist I got which had both FAnG and Zenith coordinates has not been published, and did not leave my comp.

I did not do this as 'tactics' as you state, solely for the fun of doing it, as I was bored and Aneu's forum posting and constant pms aneu'd the **** out of me.

As for 'claiming it', I personally knew someone like you, uninformed, would post something like this, but you know... I could care less.

And hAl, do you honestly think that someone currently spying on a respected alliance would 'claim' it here?

Get a grip.

hAl · 25 Apr 2003, 10:36

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Originally posted by WipeOut
To inform you, I did not join that alliance under my own nick, I made one up and created an identity and reputation around it. Secondly, I did not use ANY of the information I obtained against them (apart from bashing Aneu's planet I have to admit). The memberlist I got which had both FAnG and Zenith coordinates has not been published, and did not leave my comp.

I did not do this as 'tactics' as you state, solely for the fun of doing it, as I was bored and Aneu's forum posting and constant pms aneu'd the **** out of me.

As for 'claiming it', I personally knew someone like you, uninformed, would post something like this, but you know... I could care less.

And hAl, do you honestly think that someone currently spying on a respected alliance would 'claim' it here?

Get a grip.

Even if you did it for 'fun' as you claim it is the alliance that you do it to that suffers from it. and for you not using that info, I cannot believe you would not have used the info if they would have been targetting any decently important gal of your own alliance. If you haven't used it that was probably only cause they were never able to target any decently sized gals of your alliance anyways.

And several people have claimed to spy on other main alliances in the past. I even remember Sid himself claiming to have full arbiter acces to other alliances on these board (with info giving some indications that he actualy might have had it as well). Claiming spying triumphs is often done by victorious alliances or their members. That they make themself look as lamers to some others hardly comes up with them because they see it as a genuine part of the game. That others view spying differently is hardly imaginable to them.

I even know of alliances that provided a second planet for their spies to use as cover, therefore blatantly encouraging multying and cheating. Also with spies who were found out (and exiled) getting a chance to take over a planet in a top 20 gal so they could continue their round for their alliance. Or people gettting offered a good ranked planet to take over in trade for memberlist or galaxy lists. This makes spying besides being pathetic also closely accociated with cheating.

hAl

WipeOut · 25 Apr 2003, 11:33

I did my best not to hurt them though, I did not use the memberlist as it had but little importance to me.

But it would not have mattered, as Zenith was doomed to fail anyway. Well, doomed to fail as an alliance of proportions of which they profiled thmeselves to be.

And I hope you are not implying I am cheating.

davidb · 25 Apr 2003, 12:23

Quote:

Originally posted by WipeOut
They are very nice indeed, they are friendly and the likes, they are however above all, incredibly stupid security-wise and alliance-wise.

I managed to become HC in Zenith under a false ident within 3 days, obtain the memberlist and laugh my arse off.

------------

But it would not have mattered, as Zenith was doomed to fail anyway. Well, doomed to fail as an alliance of proportions

oh you are my hero!

plus zenith had the ideas and potential to be sumthing,it just missed that bit more of oragnisation prehaps and it wud be sumthing,
suppose haveing most of the lamors in pa trying to spy on a new alliance which has only started up didnt help any case,
so go on wipeout run back to ...... erm which ever rock u came under

hinch · 25 Apr 2003, 15:47

wipeout can i have my coords please i havent logged in in that long i cant remember them

WipeOut · 25 Apr 2003, 16:01

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Originally posted by davidb
oh you are my hero!
plus zenith had the ideas

Every new alliance has an eager command and member base, it is the 'new' and 'positivie' attitude in every starting alliance, why would one start an alliance if all members think it would fail anyway? So Zenith is hardly different from any other new alliance.

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...and potential to be sumthing,it just missed that bit more of oragnisation prehaps and it wud be sumthing,

How can they have potential when they miss organisation? Potential is for a great part defined by organisation, and as that was totally absent, potential was as well. Or do you think alliances like 'Angel' or 'Shadow Soldiers' have the quality of members which ensure potential in the current universe?

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suppose haveing most of the lamors in pa trying to spy on a new alliance which has only started up didnt help any case,

Maybe, just maybe, it would be wise not to have a total incapable child running an alliance's PR on these forums, trying to manifestate Zenith as being part of the 'upper league' and thereby attracting unneeded and certainly not desired attention?

What do you think made Sapientia (just an example) fail? Or any of the other alliances that pop up with drumms and bells, just to then swiftly drown again in silence?

And to be clear about this: I did not do anything to hurt Zenith, I refused a political position and remained a wing HC just to not interfere with them. So implying that my 'spying' was the cause for Zenith doing as they did, is quite inaccurate to say the least. You implying that I have been a reason for Zenith performing as they did/do is giving me way too much credit.

But if it makes you feel better, go on and believe it.

I warmly welcome birth of any new alliance in planetarion, as I think new alliances are needed in order for the game to live on.

Teh_Necro · 25 Apr 2003, 18:18

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Originally posted by WipeOut
So I can finally publish Zenith's memberlist now?

Aneu

haha beat u to it!

-Necro

Kalie · 28 Apr 2003, 03:17

Wipeout should be then TheSpectre or some =)

Kalie · 28 Apr 2003, 03:18

Btw FAnG never gave their memberlist to Zenith, would be funny if you know all our coords =) but well everyone should know it by now like everyone knows from each other in this stage of the game

NightSinner · 1 May 2003, 16:03

who are FAnG? and who are Zenith?

Aneu · 9 May 2003, 15:36

WipeOut your so ub3r l33t arent you? Lol, i very much doubt, well i actually know you werent a HC in Zenith lol, The HC were people i have known for quite a while and people a trust, also i very much doubt you had the member list due to only me having a complete one

Zenith did have major problems due to the larger alliances trying to spy and down us, we did what we could but that wasnt enough, due to real life problems i had to leave 3 weeks into the round, i appologise to Zenith for my leaving at a critical point but i had to.

Further more Zenith had a good command, although lacking, it had great potential and they worked together very well. I hope you have all moved on to better things and i would like to thank you all once more.

Regards
Aneu
Ex-Planetarion-Player

P,S WipeOut lol, PLEASE reply

Jester · 9 May 2003, 15:39

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Originally posted by Aneu
Regards
Aneu
Ex-Planetarion-Player

Hi.

Ascendancy.

Jester

Kjeldoran · 10 May 2003, 10:46

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Originally posted by NightSinner
who are FAnG?

you should receive a bang on your head for posing that question ...

rgds Kj

if you didn't play r7-9, you're forgiven

Jester · 10 May 2003, 14:10

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Originally posted by Kjeldoran
you should receive a bang on your head for posing that question ...

You should receive a bang on your head for that answer.

Jester

Kjeldoran · 10 May 2003, 17:40

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Originally posted by Jester
You should receive a bang on your head for that answer.

Jester

Master · 10 May 2003, 18:15

Why is it all FAnG members seemed to say this: Been a summot of FAnG is better then anything else. May i ask what is with this motto? I was once a FAnG member as Irvine will remmember, but i neva consuidered that motto... ah well. Btw Who are Zeneth?

Kjeldoran · 11 May 2003, 02:19

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Originally posted by DrK Assassin
Why is it all FAnG members seemed to say this: Been a summot of FAnG is better then anything else. May i ask what is with this motto? I was once a FAnG member as Irvine will remmember, but i neva consuidered that motto... ah well. Btw Who are Zeneth?

lol, it's not some motto, and you haven't been FAnG in the "real" FAnG. THe r9 FAnG has none of the original command aside for my best DC, who's now the leader

the "motto" is just my sig, cause that's what I feel and that's my opinion.

rgds Kj

xtothez · 11 May 2003, 02:32

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Originally posted by Aneu
WipeOut your so ub3r l33t arent you? Lol, i very much doubt, well i actually know you werent a HC in Zenith lol, The HC were people i have known for quite a while and people a trust, also i very much doubt you had the member list due to only me having a complete one

Zenith did have major problems due to the larger alliances trying to spy and down us, we did what we could but that wasnt enough, due to real life problems i had to leave 3 weeks into the round, i appologise to Zenith for my leaving at a critical point but i had to.

Further more Zenith had a good command, although lacking, it had great potential and they worked together very well. I hope you have all moved on to better things and i would like to thank you all once more.

Regards
Aneu
Ex-Planetarion-Player

P,S WipeOut lol, PLEASE reply

Master · 11 May 2003, 07:56

IS there a point to this argument?

mastah · 11 May 2003, 11:05

Have fun

Kjeldoran · 11 May 2003, 12:22

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Originally posted by DrK Assassin
IS there a point to this argument?

heh, you started one and now question whether there's a point to it? .... odd ......

rgds Kj

Fighters · 12 May 2003, 01:58

Irvine is basically the only guy i remember from the real FAnG :-p

Kjeldoran · 12 May 2003, 08:43

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Originally posted by HelloJD
Irvine is basically the only guy i remember from the real FAnG :-p

rofl, bad memory you got there m8y.

But, yeah, Irvine was our best DC so I understand why pple remember him.

rgds Kj

Fifth_teletubbie · 12 May 2003, 10:06

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Originally posted by Jester
Hi.

Ascendancy.

Jester

I think this constitutes cruelty to small animals.

Unf_Slasher · 12 May 2003, 11:47

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Originally posted by DrK Assassin
Why is it all FAnG members seemed to say this: Been a summot of FAnG is better then anything else. May i ask what is with this motto? I was once a FAnG member as Irvine will remmember, but i neva consuidered that motto... ah well. Btw Who are Zeneth?

because being a fang officer or HC is simply fun.
nothing else to be said about it

we didnt win a round, we weren't the best, but we had loads of fun

granted the fun nearly killed me, but it was fun nevertheless

=

PS: good luck for rd 10 Irvine i'm sure you will do well

PPS: KJ if Irvine was your best DC, then what was i :-(

Fighters · 12 May 2003, 11:52

I meant he's the only one i see from the original FAnG in r9 FAnG

Kjeldoran · 12 May 2003, 12:17

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Originally posted by HelloJD
I meant he's the only one i see from the original FAnG in r9 FAnG

true, I believe he's the only one.

rgds Kj