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Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 16:56

While scanning a certain galaxy containing the #1 ranked planet (hi Rabba) last night, a news scan of said planet revealed some "interesting" fleet movements.

Seems he had two hostile fleets incoming, both of 50 ships, one tick apart, coming from (as far as my info could tell) WEET galaxies. Interesting.

He sent "almost" all of his fleet out (note: almost) to defend some random newbie planet.

A news scan of the planet he was "defending" revealed no hostile fleets incoming, and (as far as my info could tell) it wasn't allied, just a randomly selected set of coords in a high-up cluster. Interesting.

Unit scans on the #1 planet after the first combat tick showed 33 fewer Rogues, and 50 shiny new Demeters. Another unit scan after the 2nd combat tick showed 33 fewer Rogues again, and *gasp* 50 more Demeters.

He also had a staggering number of Vultures...not an easy ship to aquire in combat as we all know. Interesting.

So, like a good little boy, I send this all to the Creators and go to sleep after launching on his galaxy. When I wake up this morning to confirmation of his farming from a Creator, and a fresh unit scan showing no more Demeters, and about 1/2 as many Vultures, I can only assume this was a slap on the wrist...but his guilt is undeniable...and so is the name of his galaxy atm. Interesting.

There are further rumors and speculations about his dodgy activities in actual roid farming, and "mysterious" unknown planets being added to the arbiter, when their owners don't seem to exist...but that's neither here nor there.

Just know that the Creators aren't the only ones "watching", and indeed, we'll be much more persistent.

Happy farming.

G.K Zhukov · 3 Apr 2003, 16:59

So he was ship-farming, and just got a slap for it?

WTF is wrong with creators these days?

Teh_Necro · 3 Apr 2003, 17:10

Good work, now this people is what we call proof, as opposed to rumours that u use to base the foundation of any argument against my galaxy.

Good work once again.

-Necro

Faberius · 3 Apr 2003, 17:13

so you're saying that if I cheat, but I have a really high score, my punishment will be a simulated bad attack?

SpazMonster · 3 Apr 2003, 17:17

/me waits for a deletion fest at the end of the round ala r7

Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 17:21

Seems he has yet another fleet of 50 ships from a Terran planet incoming to him, as we speak.

at0mic.c0w · 3 Apr 2003, 17:21

lol this is ridiculous. if the worst that could happen is losing a few ships then i should find myself a farm.

Prince · 3 Apr 2003, 17:24

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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
lol this is ridiculous. if the worst that could happen is losing a few ships then i should find myself a farm.

yeah i mean for 100 ships losing what 1500 and 250 roids
yeah u should do it

Prince · 3 Apr 2003, 17:25

ps check top 5 owned planets this tick

at0mic.c0w · 3 Apr 2003, 17:29

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Originally posted by Prince
yeah i mean for 100 ships losing what 1500 and 250 roids
yeah u should do it

he's still better off then i am right now. and it's not like anyone is watching me as close as the t10

just let us know where u draw the line between slapping and deleting

Lerxst · 3 Apr 2003, 17:31

...yeah... really nice "slap on the wrist"

...will "hurt" him extremely...

Btw - good job Cochese!

Prince · 3 Apr 2003, 17:34

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Originally posted by Lerxst
...yeah... really nice "slap on the wrist" ...will "hurt" him extremely...

Btw - good job Cochese!

I love commenst like this
as when the dump goes out you'll look silly

so let me get this straight we had evidence on hand to proove 100 dems?

which went,

then as i dug deepr we remoevd more and more

You need to learn a word called PATIENCE

Gayle29uk · 3 Apr 2003, 17:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
I love commenst like this
as when the dump goes out you'll look silly

so let me get this straight we had evidence on hand to proove 100 dems?

which went,

then as i dug deepr we remoevd more and more

You need to learn a word called PATIENCE

Feel free to rape 48:4 then as well pls. I believe evidence has already been presented?

Dave · 3 Apr 2003, 17:40

As well as P2P, the new rules seem to have happily killed off the game.

Round 2/3 was in allmost everyone who played them's opinion's the best of all.

As well as the larger player base (even though now almost everyoe says he/she had a few multis...), farming/ship farming/full donations/ingal roiding was all fine.

AND IMO IT WAS SO MUCH MORE FUN BACK THEN.

P.S. if I attack a big Zik NaR planet with Demeters only will they get closed for ship farming?

Lerxst · 3 Apr 2003, 17:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
I love commenst like this
as when the dump goes out you'll look silly

so let me get this straight we had evidence on hand to proove 100 dems?

which went,

then as i dug deepr we remoevd more and more

You need to learn a word called PATIENCE

I indeed hope to look "silly". And I love to make comments like this and hear them countered like this. Obviously...

The time I posted I looked at his planet and saw no roidlosses. If that means that your actions are for now hidden and come up to light next tick I am proven wrong which I would appreciate in that case. Really.

But nevertheless - even if you take all his roids and display his rulername in pink there's still the feeling his agricultural ambitions are not "rewarded" as they should be... (btw: that's an opinion...)

Oh - patience is something I had very much of in r7 but the timely distance between proving the actions of 15:19 and the "reward" for them showed me that "patience" could ruin a complete round...

Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 17:45

Guess what Dave, this isn't r2/3, and yes, the rules have changed...but clearly, the players have not.

BTW, I noticed you've recalled your fleet

Dave · 3 Apr 2003, 17:48

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Originally posted by Cochese
Guess what Dave, this isn't r2/3, and yes, the rules have changed...but clearly, the players have not.

Well obviously this isnt round 2/3, its about as stable though

.

And why should many of the players change, its like covering a road with speed camera's, but the only effect it has is negative.

Prince · 3 Apr 2003, 17:55

to Lerxst

Check top 5 owned

ta

Biggdogg · 3 Apr 2003, 17:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
I love commenst like this
as when the dump goes out you'll look silly

so let me get this straight we had evidence on hand to proove 100 dems?

which went,

then as i dug deepr we remoevd more and more

You need to learn a word called PATIENCE

So, just to be clear, as im honestly dumbfounded by what your saying here. People who cheat and get caught blatenly arent deleted anymore. You just remove some ships and roids that can be farmed back? Is there some type of scale that has to be done before someone is deleted or something? Like you have to cheat a certain amount before any non laughable action is taken?

MelAn · 3 Apr 2003, 17:58

..what a "shining example of fairplay" for his pe0ns

..or like a klingon would say: maghwI' !!!

Zh|l · 3 Apr 2003, 17:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Biggdogg
So, just to be clear, as im honestly dumbfounded by what your saying here. People who cheat and get caught blatenly arent deleted anymore. You just remove some ships and roids that can be farmed back? Is there some type of scale that has to be done before someone is deleted or something? Like you have to cheat a certain amount before any non laughable action is taken?

Agreed. This is just laughable. Not saying this certain planet will cheat again, but it goes to show there is nothing to really lose.

The resources he gained from these roids before removal was enough to give an unfair advantage.

Synthetic_Sid · 3 Apr 2003, 17:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Feel free to rape 48:4 then as well pls. I believe evidence has already been presented?

If my info is correct, compelling evidence WAS presented. And their punishment was ...

They were told to stop using their farm galaxy.

Lerxst · 3 Apr 2003, 18:02

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Originally posted by Prince
to Lerxst

Check top 5 owned

...still the more important two other points remain unanswered...

Dave · 3 Apr 2003, 18:02

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Originally posted by Synthetic_Sid
They were told to stop using their farm galaxy.

Sounds about right.....

:/

Cicada · 3 Apr 2003, 18:04

this is ****ING redicilous Prince...

if they cheated, ie ships farmed, roid farmed..YOU HAVE TO DELETE THEIR PLANETS, this ****ty slap on the wrist method will simply encourage more people to try and get away with it..

it's bollocks and you should be ashamed of yourselves pa..

why the fcuk are you not deleteing them???

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 18:05

sad sad sad , This encourages others to go to that same length because they will get the same punishment! Its tough to comment cause Zhil, Sid BD said it all already.

Question to Prince was he CHEATING? or being naughty? Just curious where the scale is between the 2.

Gayle29uk · 3 Apr 2003, 18:06

Well if the creators don't want to delete for ship farming I have my own suggested punishment on top of raping their planets/fleets...

Forced exile to a random galaxy

Damon · 3 Apr 2003, 18:09

Quote:

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Well if the creators don't want to delete for ship farming I have my own suggested punishment on top of raping their planets/fleets...

Forced exile to a random galaxy

Well everyone knows who he is..
He will still be well defended

But i agree with most of the rest he should have been deleted

Synthetic_Sid · 3 Apr 2003, 18:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
ps check top 5 owned planets this tick

I did. Very wierd - his score seems to have changed. Could have sworn that when someone was closed for cheating their score didn't change thereafter.

Gayle29uk · 3 Apr 2003, 18:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Damon
Well everyone knows who he is..
He will still be well defended

Much harder in a random gal though and with his fleet raped he'd be a target for the nightly incomigns the rest of the random gals are getting.

Quote:

But i agree with most of the rest he should have been deleted

This is preferrable though.

Sirad · 3 Apr 2003, 18:11

I would like to see the cheat scale please so as to assess the risk factor in investing in a farm.

Prince · 3 Apr 2003, 18:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Axis_WLF
sad sad sad , This encourages others to go to that same length because they will get the same punishment! Its tough to comment cause Zhil, Sid BD said it all already.

Question to Prince was he CHEATING? or being naughty? Just curious where the scale is between the 2.

hmm Well if we say Solid Evidence like the 100 Dems that are extremly solid evidence

then thats wrong yes

did he use those ships? nope

did he farm vultures?

Now i'll be honest checking combat repiorts he has gained alot legally (why don't people trun there pods when Zik atatcks i never know)

All the Solid Evidence prooves is 100 Dems

punishment he lost a hell of alot more probaly 10x

and correct me if i'm wrong but this is the first time anyone
has being punished for ship farming?

Scouse · 3 Apr 2003, 18:12

If he's cheating (which he is) then fking well delete him you soft cnuts. Anything less isn't enough and I couldn't care less how bad your 'punishment' was.

Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 18:16

The worst part is, he had another 50 ships sent to him (which were recalled around the time this thread was created) after having the original 100 demeters + etc etc removed.

It's like being caught stealing, then pocketing more merchandise while the cops are writing your ticket.

Damon · 3 Apr 2003, 18:16

Perhaps we should all start shipfarming tonight as an example(Not my idea i dont wanna steal it from you Rudmer)

Cicada · 3 Apr 2003, 18:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
hmm Well if we say Solid Evidence like the 100 Dems that are extremly solid evidence

then thats wrong yes

did he use those ships? nope

did he farm vultures?

Now i'll be honest checking combat repiorts he has gained alot legally (why don't people trun there pods when Zik atatcks i never know)

All the Solid Evidence prooves is 100 Dems

punishment he lost a hell of alot more probaly 10x

and correct me if i'm wrong but this is the first time anyone
has being punished for ship farming?

[censored]

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 18:17

Thats the point heh its obvious but he does not wanna make it too obvious see? He just made it look like a noob did it so that if things were checked that would be the course of action taken. This round is pretty crazy from the sheer amount of those that get away with it heh. Zeus is not here but make no mistake if he were they would all be closed and we would be replying to posts on AD from alliances those people are in denying them and from posts from the cheats themselves whining to justify themselves or apologize or deny doing it.

|Deleted| |Slap on wrist| |AD bashing only| |Shame Shame|

Cheating-----------Naughty---------Bad boy------------Dirty

Prince your pretty enw to this I imagine and you probably think your doing what ya think is right , but really they should be closed and after 9 days deleted if no proof comes to prove them innocent. Peeps or the veterans that reply sorta pissed off are from the way these people would have been handled in the past and since its a different way of handling them it seems the person was rewarded rather than punished. Look at what he keeps?

Oghy · 3 Apr 2003, 18:18

wait a minute ..
wait a minute ...

are you seriously saying that you only get 'a slap on the wrist' for blatantly PROOFED cheating, Whilst You got deleted in rnd 7?

WTF is going on here?

This is outragious...
I know the number of planets is low, but by all means stick to your own rules ffs.

-Yogibear

Sirad · 3 Apr 2003, 18:22

setting a BAD presedent there m8, if you expect PA to have any future at all heh especially since its P2P, you might want to read the user agreement that you made us all read, it applies to everyone equally.. or dosent it ?

BlueArmy · 3 Apr 2003, 18:22

hahaha, this aint funny at all....

cheating -> closed -> 9 days to find out if they really did it (guilty if they cant prove otherwise) -> deleted

now it's,
cheating -> remove a few ships and roids -> planet getting bad pr on ad -> continue farming

G.K Zhukov · 3 Apr 2003, 18:23

Quote:

pld Axis

storeslem · 3 Apr 2003, 18:24

I suggest you remove all his traveltime r/c as well!

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 18:25

I think Prince will come around hes new hell read user agreement and understand what needs to be done. Prince man dont be afraid to wreak havoc on those cheating dude stick it to them for real they deserve it.

MadeMan · 3 Apr 2003, 18:26

omg. thats like if u did a robbery, and stole 100000 $ then u have to give them back and just got a slap on the back by the cops then u could go, is this how we want the world to turn out?

NO i say delete him!

Damon · 3 Apr 2003, 18:30

Quote:

Originally posted by MadeMan
omg. thats like if u did a robbery, and stole 100000 $ then u have to give them back and just got a slap on the back by the cops then u could go, is this how we want the world to turn out?

NO i say delete him!

Well almost.
U can keep half you stole and get a slap.

waassaa · 3 Apr 2003, 18:31

farming was stated as against the rules, be it roid or ships, from multi planet or "friend" *cough cough*

many ppl have been closed for alot less.

seems its who u r, not what u do.

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 18:36

The people doing it have 0 skill and have not had much throughout their PA history so I do not know why it would be about who ya are as they are not any good at REAL PA. They are however excellant at what I call PA MASTERBATION the self gratifacation of ships and roids that do not come about through normal legal means.

3 Apr 2003, 18:38

erm erm erm! ok.... i know i didnt read the rules/user agreement whatever when i signed up my planet this round... but wtf.. i am going too it now.. wonder if there are many other things we all could bend/brake...

bad example Prince... baaaaad

Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 18:39

The target planet is closed and under the protection of the creators. Your scan was cancelled!

Justice is served, bravo.

MadeMan · 3 Apr 2003, 18:40

The target planet is closed and under the protection of the creators. Your scan was cancelled!

finally