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Unread 28 Apr 2003, 14:15   #1
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9.5 better chance? alliances hold the key

Well we have had a great week with the rangles of alliances giving people the war they wanted all be it a little late!

Now seeing how the alliances have one by one gone it alone, it seems the perfect time to reset and head to 9.5
with this turn to alliances for themselves and not for the block i believe that 9.5 would be one of the best possible ways to end the current pa game as we know it.

so common alliances dont we feel like its time for 9.5



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Re: 9.5 better chance?

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Well we have had a great week with the rangles of alliances giving people the war they wanted all be it a little late!

Now seeing how the alliances have one by one gone it alone, it seems the perfect time to reset and head to 9.5
with this turn to alliances for themselves and not for the block i believe that 9.5 would be one of the best possible ways to end the current pa game as we know it.

so common alliances dont we feel like its time for 9.5
perhaps but tbh im not sure if it would do more harm than good,

think about it, if 9.5 is fully random, the alliances will find partners to work with in a random round, those partners would probably stay together for r10 as well.

i'd prefer it if everyone went into r10 without any ties so we can have a much more balanced round that is better for all not just the group who is larger/luckier, and find people to work with when and if they need to in r10, rather than from the start of the round which would probably happen.
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Unread 28 Apr 2003, 14:34   #3
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i hope to god 9.5 doesnt happen, as if it does i would probably quit pa.

Imagine if they stopped pa r3 as fury/legion won

you cant stop a game just because you lost.

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i hope to god 9.5 doesnt happen, as if it does i would probably quit pa.

Imagine if they stopped pa r3 as fury/legion won

you cant stop a game just because you lost.

jesus grow up
You there! Grow up and stop whining!
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Unread 28 Apr 2003, 15:12   #5
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i hope to god 9.5 doesnt happen, as if it does i would probably quit pa.

Imagine if they stopped pa r3 as fury/legion won

you cant stop a game just because you lost.

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Actually that's the best reason to stop the game. Would you be happy if r3 were still going on? There is no real way to say when a round should end besides there being a victor. That said, the end round announcement has almost always spurred some sort of activity (r3 it catalyzed the fury/wp/legion war (ironically they weren't able to finish it in time), r4,5 and 6 it spurred donation races, r7 it spurred a chaotic sequence of hostile events within FLTV, r8 it led to TLV launching on all the hostile planets they could find). So a two weeks notice would probably lead to a little extra vitality injected in the round, then a final victor being announced. At this point, not much is happening and not much will happen before the end round. The faster it comes the more legitemacy the top player and gal can claim (though if the current nr1 wins he's got my respect no matter how it happens).

So, under the assumption that the r10 will not be delayed (significantly) by a round 9.5, why should we extend the current one in its stead?

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i hope to god 9.5 doesnt happen, as if it does i would probably quit pa.

Imagine if they stopped pa r3 as fury/legion won

you cant stop a game just because you lost.

jesus grow up
You can stop a game when most of your customers lose interest. If your customers really want a round 9.5 and the current round has nothing more to offer in gameplay then why not ? Allthough you would need to set a tick on which the game would end and have a small period to reset the game so it would take a few weeks probably and that would hardly leave time for a new round unless you wanted it to last untill far into the summer.

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At this point, not much is happening and not much will happen before the end round.
I tend to disagree. The round has not re-stagnated. And a lot can happen before the end of the round. Unless both Eclypse and ToT decide to share their victory. But so far I have not seen anyone willing to share a victory.
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But so far I have not seen anyone willing to share a victory.
I dont know what happend round five (VtS, Fury) round six (NoS, WP) and such.. It have happend.. (-; And will probably happend this round too!
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If a 9.5 would happen, it had to be at 30 min ticks sped or summtin, as a whole round would have taken far to long time.
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i would restet the roids fleets and scores but leave planets at their tech level


and let people go to it .


wuold let us skip the boring bit and head to the fight
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i hope to god 9.5 doesnt happen, as if it does i would probably quit pa.

Imagine if they stopped pa r3 as fury/legion won

you cant stop a game just because you lost.

jesus grow up
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honestly, not all sunderland fans are this bad!! i swear it! :[

Neways, dread, do not draw comparisions between r3 and r9, mainly because of the fact that the universe was aproximatley 45x larger.

ET have won, their roiding, the reminance of WE, the rest of the universe is watching as you guys filter amongst the scraps for the odd roid.

The game is as dead as Sid's hair roots.

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Re: pesonally

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i would restet the roids fleets and scores but leave planets at their tech level


and let people go to it .


wuold let us skip the boring bit and head to the fight

What about amps?
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Unread 28 Apr 2003, 18:30   #13
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heh ok

include amps i reset!
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To stop the pathetic "WE WON EVEN THOUGH THE ROUND DIDN'T FINISH!!1" debates, the creators should just get a representative from each major alliance that has at least one planet in the top 20 (obviously an HC), that is losing and get them to agree that they have been beaten.

If they don't admit it, then people continue to play until the HC have to admit defeat.
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Unread 28 Apr 2003, 19:10   #15
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Round 9.5 isn't going to happen, the creators have already said that.
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Round 9.5 isn't going to happen, the creators have already said that.
It's ironic, since they were willing to offer r9.5 as an incentive for WEET to split (Kloopy suggested to me that r9.5 would be possible if WEET split and a winner was found), yet now that WEET has split, the creators have gone back on the idea.
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Wouldn't be the first time.
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Unread 29 Apr 2003, 00:16   #18
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1. after 90% of earlier rounds r 10 will be delayed. why not run round r 9.5 untill signups are ready and stop it there?

They could boost it with like all start with roid/amp cons/res done and with 100 amps and 10 roids..

Btw why are r10 going to make a majority of new players into the arena when there are fairly no newbie alliances for them to join?

Wasn't r6 a kinda big kick to pa game wise? yes but it didn't bring much more new players into the game.

As long as this game is pay only it's doomed!

Now we can finaly get a short round for free and people go whining.

Why not open 2-3k sign ups so to try to attract some new players atleast for round 10 and get em a little experince. is that so bad for the game?
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There is another thread about rnd 9.5, though the discussion seems closed: they don't want it now.

There will be a free 2 week round 10 taster. Since so much will be different then, they don't see any need to opening up a game to free players which will be completely different anyway. The taster should sell itself. I don't think a 2 week taster will attrackt the needed amounts, but combined with free accounts for a few k people in targetted groups, it will probably give round 10 the playerbase it needs.
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I think my biggest argument for 9.5, is that i dont see any realistic strong arguements against it.

I mean, the competent amongst us can clearly see that Eclipse and ToT have won the round, theres nothing left to play for, and no doubt a good while untill r10 appears. So a r9.5 - would in essence allow us 2 months to keep some interest, hell its the least pa deserves after the pre-mature end of r8.

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I dont think its called for quite yet. It should happen when stagnation sets in, not when war is winding down.
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i think its a great time for 9.5, and i am sure 90% of the universe agree me.

...and since the 90% of people paid as much money to play as the 10% who don't want 9.5; i think it be best if the creators get round 9.5 underway in the interests of customer retention.....


(though that would be a smart business move so i don't see it happening)
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I dont think its called for quite yet. It should happen when stagnation sets in, not when war is winding down.
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I would possibly agree if this round wasn't stone cold dead. It becomes a roid collection now. Tell me what is the reasoning behind releasing us from this round now? Its dead all thats left is for a few individuals to compete for who finishes higher. For everyone else the round is dead and burried.
Why do we even bother playing rounds when you can predict the future and know exactly how everything will turn out.

Do you turn football matches off at halftime because you already know whos going to win? Sometimes theres that miracle goal. Sometimes one team just falls apart inexplicably.
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I think last nights last ditch attemt to attack ET by the other alliances shows that there is not much left to do in this round.
ET are not going to be beaten now. give them rewards, post it on the portal, play the final two weeks and then lets all start again.
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