So tell me Sakera

[Knight Theamion]

Have you removed all WEET protection from your farming galmember who is now hitting another planet in 39:7 ?

[General1]

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
Have you removed all WEET protection from your farming galmember who is now hitting another planet in 39:7 ?

Why ask when you already know the answer

[Elu Thingol]

/me looks at a farmer in that gal...

i don´t see nothing...i think is better see ur gal...or don´t u want? ;D. the farmers think the rest are the same...

[Foxman]

we havent farmed, belive what u want, but tbh, i dont care

[Hicks]

"They didn't know it was illegal". It worked for Rabba therefore it should work for everyone else.

[-CP-]

Originally posted by Hicks
"They didn't know it was illegal". It worked for Rabba therefore it should work for everyone else.

Be careful... you are about to break your little glasshouse with that stone..

[Hicks]

Originally posted by -CP-
Be careful... you are about to break your little glasshouse with that stone..

In what way ? If Rabba can get away with farming why can't the rest of Planetarion ?

Why should anyone look down on Sakera's galaxy if they have farmed (Which I doubt they have as news scans are out) if Rabba can get away with it.

What does 39:7 have to do with anything ? :eek: Do elaberate Theamion, from what I'm told 39:7 hit 40:9 this morning ...

[Senater]

*sighs*

[K-W]

Originally posted by -CP-
Be careful... you are about to break your little glasshouse with that stone..

We dont let hicks have stones. He gets soft rubber balls to play with.

[Denniz]

Originally posted by Hicks


What does 39:7 have to do with anything ? :eek: Do elaberate Theamion, from what I'm told 39:7 hit 40:9 this morning ...

as quest?

40:9:6 launched first attack fleet yesterday afternoon (gmt time)
I just wondered if this was a retal cuz the target didnt even bother to get def (he was online and it was not a hard time to ask for def). And he was only a lil bit smaller then his attacker. Maybe someone from 40:9 can enlighten me about this.
Im just curious how they get roids this easy.
I wanna get them like that too

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11/04/03 04:33:39 We recalled a fleet defending - Lake Benacus - (51:4:1). It will be home in 7 hours.
10/04/03 21:17:21 We sent 787 ships to defend - Lake Benacus - (51:4:1). They will arrive in 7 hours.
10/04/03 20:55:06 A fleet with 1000 ships from =The Mother Goddess= has been recalled.
10/04/03 20:54:27 Our sensors have discovered a jumpgate opening in our sector. Expect company of 1000 hostile ships from =The Mother Goddess= ( 40:9:6 ) in 7 hours.
10/04/03 20:49:48 Our sensors have discovered a jumpgate opening in our sector. Expect company of 4680 hostile ships from =The Mother Goddess= ( 40:9:6 ) in 8 hours.
10/04/03 18:49:57 We recalled a fleet defending - Lake Benacus - (51:4:1). It will be home in 1 hour.
10/04/03 17:56:57 We sent 0 ships to defend - Lake Benacus - (51:4:1). They will arrive in 6 hours.
10/04/03 17:34:24 Our sensors have discovered a jumpgate opening in our sector. Expect company of 4740 hostile ships from =The Mother Goddess= ( 40:9:6 ) in 8 hours.
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And Yes, I know, coords are bad

:e_chick:

[Knight Theamion]

While 40:9 is known for 'stealing' retals who aren't even legitemate according to their own rules.

So Sakera, what do you plead ?

[MadeMan]

who will accept a retal on a gal member when u are ranked 1 ??

[SpazMonster]

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
So Sakera, what do you plead ?

Ignorance.. It worked for rabba

[Knight Theamion]

Originally posted by MadeMan
who will accept a retal on a gal member when u are ranked 1 ??

The point is, another HC SHOULD auth it or the rules of the alliance and the block are corrupted, Sakera shouldn't be allowed to rule over his own gal retal wise.

[MadeMan]

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
The point is, another HC SHOULD auth it or the rules of the alliance and the block are corrupted, Sakera shouldn't be allowed to rule over his own gal retal wise.

Yes a good point but do u think that sakera would let them go through on his galm8?

[LordNieminen]

c'moon.. didn't ya guys read tzu's topic in this forum.. and u wonder.. where does those roids.. go.. when atleast half of gal is online.. and sakera doesn't know anything what's happening.. unless the gal members involved have telled him.. and btw all retals are farming.. if target moves and can't get def.. so there u go...

[Le Mauvais Moine]

Originally posted by LordNieminen
r9: 39:7, we decided who win this r.

[Silk_311x]

Sakara's brain is too small to understand this conversation ;/

[Eylisia]

Originally posted by LordNieminen
c'moon.. didn't ya guys read tzu's topic in this forum.. and u wonder.. where does those roids.. go.. when atleast half of gal is online.. and sakera doesn't know anything what's happening.. unless the gal members involved have telled him.. and btw all retals are farming.. if target moves and can't get def.. so there u go...

Please make an effort at getting at the right case at least,
someone attacked Sun_Tzus galaxy from a different galaxy,
NOT Sakeras.
So what exactly does your comment here mean?

Eylisia

[Shakky]

Originally posted by Silk_311x
Sakara's brain is too small to understand this conversation ;/

he is very cleaver i got all my knowledge from him :/

[daku]

\o/ to all our attackers
GREAT WORK
keep it up. (especially for 13:7 bastards )

[MelAn]

...they only made 3135 roid today so far..where is the problem?
They just had a very good raid

If they come away with this, the game is really dead

Prince i suggest u take this info and act especially certain peopls forum sigs

[G.K Zhukov]

I wonder how many of those roids in that galaxy is farmed in one way or another.. 50%?

[Sakera]

Well what to say? I have now been accused for being dumb, a farmer, everything you can read up here without having
time/chance to comment on it myself.

I will do this short, but from the start. A few days ago, as most of you heard, there was a hit on a Eclipse/Ely
gal done by allies, where 39:7 participated a GREAT deal. This his was done with mind to KILL and ROID the
Eclipse/Ely galaxy and the ONE and ONLY reason for the recall was a great deal of defence on all targets.

After this 13:7 decided to retal on 39:7. Roidruns. Not only once, but several times. In their eyes this was
ok because of the single attack on eclipse (No the attack wasnt on 13:7). My gal, 40:9 decided not to tolerate
that 13:7 could continue "farming" 39:7 and we launched our own retals against 39:7 for something that
normally wouldn't have been taken so hard, but under this circumstances we decided that this was reason enough.
We decided to retal the galaxy and we did so, contacted the planets in question and gave them ultimatum to
accept the retal or we would bash their whole galaxy down to nothing. Witch they accepted, and fleets where
sent from 40:9 as retal fleets, not farming fleets. Now, it's up to PA-HQ if they want to see retals as farming,
but they earlier haven't, and I dont think they should now either. We managed to dig up alot of violations done by
39:7 and followed with a few more fleets, witch by the way where real attack fleets because we did not auth it
with the members in question.

This is the whole story, and nothing but the truth.

When it comes to 39:7's sigs, it's not our problem that they decided to give up and express their anger
at both us and 13:7 by starting this "strategy". Would you really think they would do something like that
if they willingly got farmed by 40:9? oh comon......

Originally posted by Dreadnoughty!
Sakera you make me sick

[08:23:11] <Dreadnought> and retals are being requested
[08:23:50] <Sakera> to bad you wount get any )
[08:24:00] <Sakera> and thats a promise


Odd you take donations but dont accept retals on ur gal members who piggyback

Dreadnought> and retals are being requested
Sakera> to bad you wount get any )
Sakera> and thats a promise
Dreadnought> so your saying your gal can just flaunt what u take?
Dreadnought> you take retals but when u piggyback u cant be retalled?
Dreadnought> odd
Sakera> if they piggyback they will recal, so there will be no retals

to bad you missed the rest of the conversation, love.

Originally posted by G.K Zhukov
I wonder how many of those roids in that galaxy is farmed in one way or another.. 50%?

We did not farm a single out of our roids.

[Issna]

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
Have you removed all WEET protection from your farming galmember who is now hitting another planet in 39:7 ?

nonono..you are badly wrong,we still have effective weet protection
[00:35] <Guran> Check of galaxy 39:7 on 11/04/2003 23:34
[00:35] <Guran> Attack Forbidden
[00:35] <Guran> Even if It contain Hostile
everyone that news scans our gal can see how usefull that line in arbiter is.
but no,sakera aint behind of these incs,he's just the guy who could have stopped all this **** happening to our gal

[11:22] <Sun_Tzu> should the whole thing be recalled?
[11:23] <Sakera> <Olrik> msg him to recall and check with his hc
[11:23] <Sakera> okz do it politely
[11:23] <Sakera> only your attacker
[11:23] <Sakera> rest is free to attack
[11:23] <Sun_Tzu> o.O
[11:23] <Sun_Tzu> WEET is allowed to attack WEET members? c'mon...
[11:24] <Sakera> not ely members

this is our dear sakera,good to have whole block-caring hcs \o/

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Sakera
Well what to say? I have now been accused for being dumb, a farmer, everything you can read up here without having
time/chance to comment on it myself.

I will do this short, but from the start. A few days ago, as most of you heard, there was a hit on a Eclipse/Ely
gal done by allies, where 39:7 participated a GREAT deal. This his was done with mind to KILL and ROID the
Eclipse/Ely galaxy and the ONE and ONLY reason for the recall was a great deal of defence on all targets.

After this 13:7 decided to retal on 39:7. Roidruns. Not only once, but several times. In their eyes this was
ok because of the single attack on eclipse (No the attack wasnt on 13:7). My gal, 40:9 decided not to tolerate
that 13:7 could continue "farming" 39:7 and we launched our own retals against 39:7 for something that
normally wouldn't have been taken so hard, but under this circumstances we decided that this was reason enough.
We decided to retal the galaxy and we did so, contacted the planets in question and gave them ultimatum to
accept the retal or we would bash their whole galaxy down to nothing. Witch they accepted, and fleets where
sent from 40:9 as retal fleets, not farming fleets. Now, it's up to PA-HQ if they want to see retals as farming,
but they earlier haven't, and I dont think they should now either. We managed to dig up alot of violations done by
39:7 and followed with a few more fleets, witch by the way where real attack fleets because we did not auth it
with the members in question.

This is the whole story, and nothing but the truth.

When it comes to 39:7's sigs, it's not our problem that they decided to give up and express their anger
at both us and 13:7 by starting this "strategy". Would you really think they would do something like that
if they willingly got farmed by 40:9? oh comon......

So if I understand correctly 13:7 (who many have evidence of using blatantly obvious multi-escort fleets anyway) repeatedly retalled 39:7 for attacking another Ecl/Ely galaxy.

Your galaxy (saints that you are) saw that 13:7 were repeatedly attacking an "allied" galaxy on behalf of another so you took their place and threatened a galaxy, that launched one attack on one allied galaxy and that had already been hit repeatedly because of it, that if they didn't allow your fleets to land without resistance you would level them to the ground?

Sounds to me as if your greed yet again got the better of your own rules, that for one mistake that galaxy was repeatedly attacked and then threatened to be levelled to the ground if your galaxy was not allowed to farm them. Why did your galaxies "retals" come with this threat and not the original "retals" or "retals" by the galaxy they attacked?

Seems this round is just full of HCs abusing their power for their own gain isn't it?

[Sakera]

Originally posted by Maddix
So if I understand correctly 13:7 (who many have evidence of using blatantly obvious multi-escort fleets anyway) repeatedly retalled 39:7 for attacking another Ecl/Ely galaxy.

Your galaxy (saints that you are) saw that 13:7 were repeatedly attacking an "allied" galaxy on behalf of another so you took their place and threatened a galaxy, that launched one attack on one allied galaxy and that had already been hit repeatedly because of it, that if they didn't allow your fleets to land without resistance you would level them to the ground?

Sounds to me as if your greed yet again got the better of your own rules, that for one mistake that galaxy was repeatedly attacked and then threatened to be levelled to the ground if your galaxy was not allowed to farm them. Why did your galaxies "retals" come with this threat and not the original "retals" or "retals" by the galaxy they attacked?

Seems this round is just full of HCs abusing their power for their own gain isn't it?

We where unhappy seing this happened and decided to dip the toe in the water to see how hot it was.

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Sakera
We where unhappy seing this happened and decided to dip the toe in the water to see how hot it was.

Unhappy that this galaxy was being bashed by 13:7 or unhappy that 13:7 were getting all the roids?

[Iceaxe]

Originally posted by Sakera
After this 13:7 decided to retal on 39:7. Roidruns. Not only once, but several times. In their eyes this was
ok because of the single attack on eclipse (No the attack wasnt on 13:7). My gal, 40:9 decided not to tolerate
that 13:7 could continue "farming" 39:7 and we launched our own retals against 39:7 for something that
normally wouldn't have been taken so hard, but under this circumstances we decided that this was reason enough.

3 planets from 13:7 sent out counters while 39:7 was attacking an Eclipse HC gal and you call that farming, heh. (And only 1 landed)

If you'd bothered to news scan you'd see we haven't launched at 39:7 since that counter until today after you guys decided you needed some easy roids.

[Iceaxe]

@Maddix and Sakera, news scan and see where our roids (not many) have been coming from the past few days.

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Iceaxe
3 planets from 13:7 sent out counters while 39:7 was attacking an Eclipse HC gal and you call that farming, heh. (And only 1 landed)

If you'd bothered to news scan you'd see we haven't launched at 39:7 since that counter until today after you guys decided you needed some easy roids.

So he's talking crap about the whole "13:7 repeatedly retalling 39:7" thing?

Tsk tsk Sakera, lying and abusing your position to farm allied galaxies are we now? Here was me thinking only Wolfpack HC were dirty - how silly of me

[Sakera]

Originally posted by Maddix
So he's talking crap about the whole "13:7 repeatedly retalling 39:7" thing?

Tsk tsk Sakera, lying and abusing your position to farm allied galaxies are we now? Here was me thinking only Wolfpack HC were dirty - how silly of me

ns 39:7 now and see who's landing again.

[Iceaxe]

The discussion isn't about now though, its about why you decided you needed 39:7's roids. Your claims that my gal was farming 39:7 are clearly not true (news scans are amazing things)...

Oh and its not "again" its "for the first time."

[Sun_Tzu]

tread lightly Sakera, I could probably get half your gal deleted, you're just lucky you've got Foxman that I set up for you and that I like, don't wanna ruin his round because his gal-m8s are piss-ants...

oh yeah, and corzi is cool Owage p0weria

ps. The reason I recalled(on 40:9) was that I heard the attack wasn't authed, this is also why I forced my gal m8s to recall, if you choose to call me a liar, go ahead, anyone that knows me knows I'm not the one that tends to lie, and my morals are too strict to question such an order. Go ask the UW-community or my old gal-m8s, they know what kind of an player I am, much more so than your 1minute analyses on a roid-hungry stomach...

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally posted by Iceaxe
The discussion isn't about now though, its about why you decided you needed 39:7's roids. Your claims that my gal was farming 39:7 are clearly not true (news scans are amazing things)...

Oh and its not "again" its "for the first time."

indeed, 13:7 landed once, Hardcastle for 2 ticks, un-authed, un-justified, but none the less it stopped there. Anything further would have met such defence it'd be silly, since by now we had learnt not to trust HC's or alliances.

[Le Mauvais Moine]

Originally posted by Sakera
.. I have now been accused for being dumb, a farmer, everything you can read up here without having
time/chance to comment on it myself ...

.

With all words that follow the above quoted statement you confirm to be just what you have been accused of. If the facts don't support your position why reveal them ? :/

[Iceaxe]

Actually I never even bothered to newsie, Eclipse HC told me to pull so I did, had nothing to do with whether you had def or not. Can't speak for my 3rd gal mate though.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally posted by Iceaxe
Actually I never even bothered to newsie, Eclipse HC told me to pull so I did, had nothing to do with whether you had def or not. Can't speak for my 3rd gal mate though.

yes, I know, you were the one attacking me you bitch :P

[Iceaxe]

I know, and it was a counter not a true attack.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally posted by Iceaxe
I know, and it was a counter not a true attack.

counters are recalled when the countered planets recall(within alliance/block atleast)... :/

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
counters are recalled when the countered planets recall(within alliance/block atleast)... :/

Depends if the planet being countered is attacking an allied HC galaxy to try and make a bid to win the round.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally posted by Hicks
Depends if the planet being countered is attacking an allied HC galaxy to try and make a bid to win the round.

oh, yes, taking down a galaxy with less roids(and less capacity to grow) than mine had is a bid at winning the round... idd Hicks, you are a strategical genius...

[Alastor]

Originally posted by Sakera

After this 13:7 decided to retal on 39:7. Roidruns. Not only once, but several times. In their eyes this was
ok because of the single attack on eclipse (No the attack wasnt on 13:7). My gal, 40:9 decided not to tolerate
that 13:7 could continue "farming" 39:7 and we launched our own retals against 39:7 for something that
normally wouldn't have been taken so hard, but under this circumstances we decided that this was reason enough.
We decided to retal the galaxy and we did so, contacted the planets in question and gave them ultimatum to
accept the retal or we would bash their whole galaxy down to nothing. Witch they accepted, and fleets where
sent from 40:9 as retal fleets, not farming fleets.

Read that...now, read it again. Sakera, WTF is up with that? Maddix is completely correct, your greed took over this time. This aint what a HC should do, you, as a HC work for your members, they dont work for you.

[Perfection]

Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
tread lightly Sakera, I could probably get half your gal deleted, you're just lucky you've got Foxman that I set up for you and that I like, don't wanna ruin his round because his gal-m8s are piss-ants...

Your a cheater, but i wont report you because your my friend.

R7 redux i guess

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
oh, yes, taking down a galaxy with less roids(and less capacity to grow) than mine had is a bid at winning the round... idd Hicks, you are a strategical genius...

Dragons (Along with you) hit Rob's galaxy in an attempt to win the round by provoking Eclipse into striking back at Wolfpack starting a war. Wolfpack would have then called Eclipse back stabbers and got Elysium to side with them hence winning the round. Unfortunately Dragons being Dragons managed to hit an Elysium member and get owned in the process. WHICH IS WHY THE COUNTER WAS ALLOWED TO LAND.

[laputa]

Originally posted by Alastor
Read that...now, read it again. Sakera, WTF is up with that? Maddix is completely correct, your greed took over this time. This aint what a HC should do, you, as a HC work for your members, they dont work for you.

sakera = :e_chick:

[Whis]

Originally posted by Hicks
Dragons (Along with you) hit Rob's galaxy in an attempt to win the round by provoking Eclipse into striking back at Wolfpack starting a war. Wolfpack would have then called Eclipse back stabbers and got Elysium to side with them hence winning the round. Unfortunately Dragons being Dragons managed to hit an Elysium member and get owned in the process. WHICH IS WHY THE COUNTER WAS ALLOWED TO LAND.

Seems a pretty bad plan from Dragons if true, surely Elysium would realize Dragons hit Rob's galaxy first thus making the backstabbing of Eclipse invalid? Or were there other events prior to Dragons hitting Rob's galaxy which you're not mentioning here? Plus if that was indeed the plan both WP & Ely would have been aware of it and so I hardly think the 1 Ely member being hit would have made a difference in that case (both WP & Ely wanting the war). Or am I missing something else?

[-CP-]

I wonder how many weet protected gals you guys have taken roids from this round sakera.. You took a few from mine, while we were threatened that if we defended (a wolfpack member who had done nothing wrong by the way) we would be leveled to the ground..

[TehVader]

It's so fun seeing who can get the most retals Just like the good old farming races...

(/me waves at cbk)