Pa-crew: judge, jury and executioner

[Killerbij]

With the recent event of Rabba's account being reopened I think there is currenly one major shortcoming in PA rules: the basis on which punishments are selected:

Currently there are 4 punishments available:
Temporary ban: forced vacation mode for your planet for a fixed number of ticks
Reduction in assets: Loss of resources, asteroids or fleet in relation to the committed offense.
Full planet reset: planet is reset to the pre-game status, 3 uninitiated roids, research/construction cleared, fleets / scans / etc. cleared.
Closure/Deletion of account: removal from the account from the game.

I think these punishments in itself are just fine: what they lack is what most legal systems in any country have. For the most basic situations there should be basic punishments. Ofc there can be situations that warrant lesser punishment but most lawsystems do this by making a clear minimum and maximum punishment per offense. What I would like to see is a system with the most common offenses and punishments. Like:

Account sharing: Minimum: Full planet reset, Maximum: Deletion
Ship farming: Minimum: Reduction of x% of roids, x% of ships and all ships stolen by offender, Maximum: Reset of planet

I think if the rules were laid out as clear as this there will be far less discussion about creator's decisions which may seem biased atm. This way there is no way a cheater can get away without at least a minimum pre aranged penalty which should work as a deterrant as well.... (imho taking a few ships away isnt a deterrant)

Discuss

[-CP-]

Originally posted by Killerbij
With the recent event of Rabba's account being reopened I think there is currenly one major shortcoming in PA rules: the basis on which punishments are selected:

One of the main problems the way I see it is that the creators aren't allowed to punish the offenders themselves but allow interference and influence from players. I think the best thing would be to let them give punishment as they see fit without taking advice from all the forum users.

Now if something happens it is an excellent way for all the enemies of the player in question, and also people with nothing better to do, to badmouth the inidividual in question and even influence the creators.. This is a very bad solution imo...

This goes for many aspects of the game btw.. Having such a small player base gives players, and some players especially too much influence..

[Fungi]

Or a better solution:

Give the cheater-hunting jobs to people at Jolt who are impartial to everyone in the game.

Fair? I would think so too.

You wouldn't expect to be tried for an offence in a court by a jury who knew you, and a judge sympathetic to you? I rest my case.

[TheRat]

The major shortcomming that pa has (one of em) is that the men ( hrm ) in charge are bloody chicken pussies who doesnt dare to stand up for themselves, but instead listenes to what the lynch mob has to say..

Well Prince & Co, here is my comment:

:e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick:



-TheRat

[Jonas]

ALL cheats should result in deletion of the cheating accounts.

-Jonas-

[gzambo]

Originally posted by Jonas
ALL cheats should result in deletion of the cheating accounts.

-Jonas-

only problem with that is the creators would have to grow some balls first

[Sjor]

Originally posted by gzambo
only problem with that is the creators would have to grow some balls first

damn next round i will play for WP after they close me they will reopen me and gave me the missing ressources
perfect way u get roids and noone can steal them as u are protected

[Mushroom]

The 'PA crew' has no say in any cases of cheating, the only admin jobs given to PAteam are banner and abusive mail admins.

[Tawg]

i say delete them and ban them from future rounds (hard, but possible to make it harder for some cheaters to get back into the game).

[MKeeper]

Another solution still would be to make player reporting and PA crew deletion completely anonymous ...

so that the player who reported .. AND the Admin member who dealt with it are totally un-identifyable ...

That way you do not know who to throw blame at ..

I would love that kind of job myself .. cos I don't really care if some pretencious alliance HC starts bitching ... just delete their planet and ban them .. should stop them from complaining pretty quickly.

Personally I don't care if 1/4 of the PA player base gets wiped out .. it'd be worth it if the game was fair