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3 Apr 2003, 10:46
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: in scary dark woods
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it seems times have changed
i'm a bit supprised but atm it seems like the weet block has a bit more performance in the actual war.
nothing wrong with one side winning just the way of natur in pa.
but the thing what supprise me is that wp (before called wpo) seems to be on the winning side this round. when i hear wp now the first thing what comes to my mind is mass recruting and lack of skill and organisation. i dunno if i see that fully right since i never was wp but for me it looks that way.
so my question is how is it possible that an alliance which can be set on an level like SL is able to win a round. or better is able to be in the winning powerblock ...
would for example Fury back in r3 teamed up with SL? i dont think so ...
perhaps somebody can explain ...
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3 Apr 2003, 12:16
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Käptn Karacho
Join Date: Nov 2000
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the round isn't over yet... is it ?
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3 Apr 2003, 12:22
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Friendly Hitman
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Chicago!!!!Weeee!
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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
the round isn't over yet... is it ?
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It hasn't even begun imo. The bigger WEET become, the harder they will fall.
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3 Apr 2003, 12:28
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lithuania
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Re: it seems times have changed
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Originally posted by BetrayerOfHope
perhaps somebody can explain ...
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Then again, maybe noone can.
Guess it has to do with their relation with Ely, and the reason Eclipse and ToT needed some allies. If you have to pick allies out of a small assortiment of alliances, you pick the 2 bigger/stronger ones i guess.
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3 Apr 2003, 12:43
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 63
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Originally posted by KoRnNut
It hasn't even begun imo. The bigger WEET become, the harder they will fall.
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LOL that is just so totally untrue of a game like PA.  Once an alliance or block reaches a certain 'critical mass', no outside organisation will take them down. Only internal splits or divisions will.
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3 Apr 2003, 13:34
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Join Date: May 2000
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Re: it seems times have changed
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Originally posted by BetrayerOfHope
i'm a bit supprised but atm it seems like the weet block has a bit more performance in the actual war.
nothing wrong with one side winning just the way of natur in pa.
but the thing what supprise me is that wp (before called wpo) seems to be on the winning side this round. when i hear wp now the first thing what comes to my mind is mass recruting and lack of skill and organisation. i dunno if i see that fully right since i never was wp but for me it looks that way.
so my question is how is it possible that an alliance which can be set on an level like SL is able to win a round. or better is able to be in the winning powerblock ...
would for example Fury back in r3 teamed up with SL? i dont think so ...
perhaps somebody can explain ...
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While I have not been in WP, I do know a bit about SL, and there are at least two fundamental differences between WP and SL:
1. SL had over 600 "members" at it's peak and was unable to controll its recruitment since as soon as 1 HC (usually that was me) closed recruitment, another one opened it again or just continued recruiting. I doubt WP has that problem.
2. when you mass-recruited back then you got huge numbers of newbs that never really showed up on irc etc. (we also had some pretty good members, but the mass was newb quality, which actually was partly intended by certain HCs in ordert to give those some chance/help/training as well). Nowadays you'll have to try very hard to find enough newbs to mass-recruits newbies. Hence the effects of mass recruitment nowadays are by far not as bad as when PA still had a large amount of newbies back in r3.
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3 Apr 2003, 14:02
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[F.E.A.R.]
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Liverpool
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WP are crap, and only in a game (and round) as number and ally driven as this could such a bunch of poor players ever be on the winning side.
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3 Apr 2003, 14:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2001
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Scouse, ur full of compliments
I have been in WP, and WP have good officers and HC's + some very good members. It's bullox to say that they are newbies.
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3 Apr 2003, 14:11
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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well i dont know how its possibel but they say every time we have galmembers under attack, we almost never get def from wp, with theyre large member base it shouldnt be possibel to use up all defence. Aand they are on the winning side, how is it possibel?
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3 Apr 2003, 14:25
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Up yours
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Mighty Scotland
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scouse
WP are crap, and only in a game (and round) as number and ally driven as this could such a bunch of poor players ever be on the winning side.
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3 Apr 2003, 15:19
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Bored
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: A Persistant Universe
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WP is among a group of alliances that, if able to stay on the winning side an entire round will have some galaxies that perform very well.
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3 Apr 2003, 15:33
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No, really...
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Out of my mind
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Quote:
Originally posted by K-W
WP is among a group of alliances that, if able to stay on the winning side an entire round will have some galaxies that perform very well.
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Thank you, Captain Obvious
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3 Apr 2003, 15:36
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Inquisitor
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: England
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Originally posted by SpazMonster
Thank you, Captain Obvious
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That made me laugh. :/
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3 Apr 2003, 16:57
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: pack
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scouse
WP are crap, and only in a game (and round) as number and ally driven as this could such a bunch of poor players ever be on the winning side.
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maybe it tells you a bit about the lousing side????
or maybe you dont know what you are talking about????
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3 Apr 2003, 17:03
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Evil inside
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Salomo, your all wrong. There is still loads of n00bs in this game, fx people who still cry out for defence in public channels, and thinks the first to pm them is a BC..
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3 Apr 2003, 17:17
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Infallible
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Milton Keynes, UK
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Yes WP is so crap that the FC are able to cover most/all def calls during the night.
WP is so crap that the #1 planet is WP.
WP is so crap that all the pack in my gal are top 200.
As for the mass recuiting thing, WP took in an influx of new players at the begining of the round, as many alliances do. They were sifted through with the best remaining on in WP, and those who didnt cut it being kicked out.
How exactly is that any different from any other alliance?
And a final note, your simply saying this because
1) Your most likely sore from being roided by us
2) You wern't on the winning side.
Tough **** eh?
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3 Apr 2003, 18:09
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[F.E.A.R.]
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Liverpool
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
WP is so crap that the #1 planet is WP.
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If I were you I'd keep attention off your #1 planet and how exactly it gained it's position there. You might upset your HC.
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3 Apr 2003, 18:15
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180º
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Originally posted by Dave
Yes WP is so crap that the FC are able to cover most/all def calls during the night.
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Why wont u send def to my gc then?
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3 Apr 2003, 19:15
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baka.
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: now and then, here and there
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Originally posted by boss1
maybe it tells you a bit about the lousing side????
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What a lousy reply... 
But - heh - yes. WP are on that side that can be considered as "winners" if the round would end now. Hence the other side can learn. There is always a reason why someone wins. Blaming fate is a lame excuse. Anyways - the reason is not always "quality" (whatever this means in PA...) 
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3 Apr 2003, 21:13
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Bored
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: A Persistant Universe
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Yes WP is so crap that the FC are able to cover most/all def calls during the night.
WP is so crap that the #1 planet is WP.
WP is so crap that all the pack in my gal are top 200.
As for the mass recuiting thing, WP took in an influx of new players at the begining of the round, as many alliances do. They were sifted through with the best remaining on in WP, and those who didnt cut it being kicked out.
How exactly is that any different from any other alliance?
And a final note, your simply saying this because
1) Your most likely sore from being roided by us
2) You wern't on the winning side.
Tough **** eh?
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There are 4 allainces worth of galay protection right now that could produce the #1 player. What alliance the #1 player in has nothing to do with anything. It just so happens that a wp powerplayer has gotten the right combo of luck and good moves atm. It doesnt say anything about wp other than wp has that player in it. There are about 8 alliances in PA that have players capable of being #1 in the right political circumstances.
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3 Apr 2003, 21:24
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: getting sex0red by pretty women
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Originally posted by K-W
There are 4 allainces worth of galay protection right now that could produce the #1 player. What alliance the #1 player in has nothing to do with anything. It just so happens that a wp powerplayer has gotten the right combo of luck and good moves atm. It doesnt say anything about wp other than wp has that player in it. There are about 8 alliances in PA that have players capable of being #1 in the right political circumstances.
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hmmm  would i be too blatantly obvious which #1 just got deleted?:S heh
well i won't ask that then i guess
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3 Apr 2003, 22:22
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ensign forever
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Yes WP is so crap that the FC are able to cover most/all def calls during the night.
WP is so crap that the #1 planet is WP.
WP is so crap that all the pack in my gal are top 200.
As for the mass recuiting thing, WP took in an influx of new players at the begining of the round, as many alliances do. They were sifted through with the best remaining on in WP, and those who didnt cut it being kicked out.
How exactly is that any different from any other alliance?
And a final note, your simply saying this because
1) Your most likely sore from being roided by us
2) You wern't on the winning side.
Tough **** eh?
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WP makes themselves look like the joke of this round. Their fellow WEET HC are less than pleased with their actions. Shamefull is the only name for WP actions atm. They may lead but their lead smells...badly
hAl
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4 Apr 2003, 03:52
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: sydney australia
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its good to see nothing has changed and the same ppl continue to slander wp on the boards.
ignorance is bliss they say....
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4 Apr 2003, 04:58
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Infallible
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Milton Keynes, UK
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Originally posted by aza1
its good to see nothing has changed and the same ppl continue to slander wp on the boards.
ignorance is bliss they say....
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They are just sore, and besides, as the saying goes.
Its the winners that write history.
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4 Apr 2003, 05:34
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No, really...
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Out of my mind
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Quote:
Originally posted by aza1
its good to see nothing has changed and the same ppl continue to slander wp on the boards.
ignorance is bliss they say....
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In order to slander, the statements must be false.
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4 Apr 2003, 07:20
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Location: Oktoberfest :)
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most probably WP will not win as they will be sacked by the rest of (w)eet
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4 Apr 2003, 08:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: sydney australia
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Originally posted by SpazMonster
In order to slander, the statements must be false.
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my point exactly...
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4 Apr 2003, 08:22
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: @home
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Originally posted by Sjor
most probably WP will not win as they will be sacked by the rest of (w)eet
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Wow... I'm in awe.. The level in this thread is simply amazing..
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4 Apr 2003, 13:11
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Amazingstoke
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*yawn*
Even when WP are winning people still slag us off... well look at the planet rankings, even if 1 member was closed, it doesnt stop the rest being there.
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5 Apr 2003, 05:35
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Commodore
Join Date: May 2000
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Originally posted by G.K Zhukov
Salomo, your all wrong. There is still loads of n00bs in this game, fx people who still cry out for defence in public channels, and thinks the first to pm them is a BC..
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No, the n00bs i'm talking about didn't even know a BC existed and that def calls aren't simply made in the public channel :-/
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r1: n00b
r2: 7:11 - T7C HC, WaC(Jr), Sedition HC
r3: 31:25 - Sedition, Century, SL HC
r4: 95:21 - BlueTubas'
r5: 30:5 - BlueTubas, VtS
r6: 33:24:1 - Deus Ex Machina HC, politically retired
r7: 38:22 -> 26:11 - RaH peon
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the Mantis
Join Date: May 2001
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if you have people cheating in your alliance, doesnt that say something about you?
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6 Apr 2003, 00:52
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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This round is FAR from over.. ^^
:e_chick: lol
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I AM OSCAR WILDE
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Why don't you cover my friend's ETA 8 Peg incomings then, if you're so in control
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6 Apr 2003, 08:41
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you dont really expect a reply to that....?
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