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26 Dec 2002, 15:26
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Building a new pc
What are all the parts im going to need to build a new pc eg motherboard, graphics card etc
also were would the best place to be to buy pc cases
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26 Dec 2002, 15:32
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a case
a motherboard + ram + cpu
a power supply unit
a couple fans
a sound card
a graphics card
a network card
a floppy drive
a cd-rom/dvd/cd-rw/cd-r/dvd-r drive
a monitor
a sound system
a couple fans
a mouse
a keybord
a box of floppy disks
a scanner
a box of blank cd's
a printer
a 2nd monitor
oh oh, im going overboard ..
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26 Dec 2002, 15:56
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You dont say what you want the PC for. Thats helps alot when speccing up a new one. Is it a normal desktop/general use type machine, would you need extra power for games, what sort of network/internet connections are required, etc etc...
Bare minimum:
Case
Mainboard
CPU + fan
RAM
Hard disk
Keyboard
Graphics card
Monitor
Mouse (maybe not bare minimum, but I am assuming you want to run a Windows desktop machine for now)
Floppy disk drive
CD-ROM of some sort
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If you are more specific with what you want, I can be more specific with an answer. The 'bare minimum' above is that for a Windows desktop, some machines can run without some of that if needed).
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26 Dec 2002, 16:03
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technically, you dont need a case..
but i wouldnt wanna run a pc in bits on the floor...
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26 Dec 2002, 16:35
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mostly for gaming and downloading and watching movies already have broadband so connection isnt a problem
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26 Dec 2002, 17:32
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Originally posted by cookiemay
mostly for gaming and downloading and watching movies already have broadband so connection isnt a problem
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It is if you need to know whether or not you need a Ethernet connection for a cable modem/router, or just a USB connection for an ADSL modem, etc.
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26 Dec 2002, 17:44
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Originally posted by xtothez
It is if you need to know whether or not you need a Ethernet connection for a cable modem/router, or just a USB connection for an ADSL modem, etc.
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usb modem it is
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26 Dec 2002, 17:52
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what would be the best motherboard to get.
im thinkin of gettin an athlon xp 2000 for the cpu
and what kind of cooler would be the best for it
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26 Dec 2002, 18:08
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Quote:
Originally posted by cookiemay
what would be the best motherboard to get.
im thinkin of gettin an athlon xp 2000 for the cpu
and what kind of cooler would be the best for it
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Depends what you mean by best...
If you want quiet then apparently those Zafman thingamebobs are great. I just use a standard £10 fan/heatsink on my xp1800 and it stays cool but sounds like a jet engine. Or you could go for a full on watercooling solution if you want to OC it. Basically it all depends what you want to do with it and what your noise parameters are.
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26 Dec 2002, 18:09
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Mobo : Asus A7N8X Deluxe
CPU : A2100XP+
MEM : 2100/2700 DDR 512meg
Cooler : For Cpu try and just get the generic AMD one. comes with heat sink and fan and has a 3year warrenty so if your processor blows up (presuming you havnt overclocked it) theyll replace it immediatly.
Also for the case you might need fans. my thermaltake case came with 5 preinstalled and im using 3 of em (1 exhaust and 2 intake) however tbh i think you only need 1 of each. an intake and an exhaust unless you are planning on run top spec gfx card and top spec processor.
Recommend the Western Digital 7200RPM 8meg cache Caviar harddisks.
if your interested in a case i would highly highly highly recommend the thermaltake one.
look at www.scan.co.uk or www.thermaltake.com for more info.
its full tower so has plenty of room for moving about and the floppy and hdd bays are all detachable so fitting them is easy. also comes with case fans preinstalled so you are kinda saving money.
tis not the cheapest of cases tho but its built well and looks rather ace.
other places that i havnt bought from but trawled through looking at cases =
www.komplett.co.uk
www.caseheaven.com
www.ebuyer.com
www.novatech.co.uk
hope that helps
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26 Dec 2002, 18:24
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CCL have a windowed Nokia case in silver or blue for a touch under £30. One of my cases is just about falling apart so if you (or anyone else) fancies one of them you could let me know what it's like before I think about buying one
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26 Dec 2002, 18:28
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Western Digital Caviar 80GB Special Edition 8MB Cache (OEM) (HD-000-WD)
Overclockers - Price: £78.00 (£91.65 Including VAT at 17.5%) <-- this week only
scan.co.uk - Price £80.75 £94.88
dabs - ex VAT £82.56 inc VAT £97.00
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (Socket A) OEM (CP-019-AM)
Overclockers - Price: £58.00 (£68.15 Including VAT at 17.5%)
Dabs - Athlon XP 2000+ 1.67GHz SoA £62.50 £73.43
Scan - LN4244 AMD *Retail* Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67 GHz) with AMD H/S/F 3 Yrs Warranty 62.20 73.08 or
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67 GHz) Palomino Core 57.20 67.21
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26 Dec 2002, 20:53
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Quote:
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you DID remeber to buy your DDR in two sticks, so you can get one of the main performance increases of that board didnt you ?
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26 Dec 2002, 22:23
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- Case <-- still looking
- Mainboard <--- dont know yet
- CPU + fan <-- athlon 2000+ includin heatsink, fan + 3 year waranty (bought)
- RAM <--- have a 256mb sdram probly gona buy ddr
- Hard disk <--- 80gb western digital (bought)
- Keyboard <--- optical one maybe
- Graphics card <--- some agp card
- Monitor <--- flat screen maybe or 17'' normal one
- Mouse <--- optical one
- Floppy disk drive <--- use current one thou only cost £10 most places
- CD-ROM of some sort <--- ill use current one.
- CD-rw - Might have to get a new one current one seems balls
- Speakers - Complete new system
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27 Dec 2002, 01:49
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Cooki-Monster
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Asus A7N8X-Deluxe -
nForce-2 - x8 AGP+Lan+6Ch Sound+SATA+1394+SATA-RAID+USB2
Scan - £102.75 ex. VAT £120.73 inc. VAT
Overclockers - Price: £107.55 (£126.37 Including VAT at 17.5%)
Crucial 256MB DDR PC2700 CAS-2.5 (MY-008-CR)
overclockers - Price: £52.50 (£61.69 Including VAT at 17.5%)
crucial - £53.99 ex VAT + free postage
dabs - £55.68 £65.42
would that memory work properly on the Asus A7N8X Deluxe
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27 Dec 2002, 12:07
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I cba to check but are you sure those memory prices are correct. Overclockers are normally at least a pound more expensive than Crucial on the memory and Dabs normally in the middle of the two
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27 Dec 2002, 12:51
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Quote:
Originally posted by cookiemay
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe -
nForce-2 - x8 AGP+Lan+6Ch Sound+SATA+1394+SATA-RAID+USB2
Scan - £102.75 ex. VAT £120.73 inc. VAT
Overclockers - Price: £107.55 (£126.37 Including VAT at 17.5%)
Crucial 256MB DDR PC2700 CAS-2.5 (MY-008-CR)
overclockers - Price: £52.50 (£61.69 Including VAT at 17.5%)
crucial - £53.99 ex VAT + free postage
dabs - £55.68 £65.42
would that memory work properly on the Asus A7N8X Deluxe
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yes. the mobo supports speeds upto PC3200 and from what i can gather playing in the bios it allows pc2100 too. anything lower and im not 100% certain.
also with this mobo you no longer need to buy :
Sound Card,
Lan Card (has 2 installed already)
any extra USB ports
im not using its RAID or SATA support yet because tbh i dont need it and i cant be arsed working out how it all fits together. I still havnt plugged in the Game PCI thing so im missing my joystick and 2 extra usb ports but i dont need em. the only thing ive had a problem with is if i overclock the memory or processor using bios settings it will either crash on boot and you have to turn it off at mains and restart ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
it wont even boot and you have to remove the battery and the jumper to clear CMOS settings. However this was when i was trying to push the memory to 150% of its recommended settings.
if u get an unlocked cpu its perfectly possible to overclock with ease. as long as you have adequate cooling
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28 Dec 2002, 02:49
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get something shoddy and not the best of every part is what I can recodmend to you - I almost what this mistake heh (hi RR)
Don't spend more than a £1k otherwise you'll be at loss when the 'next generation' component line comes out and any software etc. become dependant on that etc. etc. etc.
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28 Dec 2002, 20:16
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gayle28uk
CCL have a windowed Nokia case in silver or blue for a touch under £30. One of my cases is just about falling apart so if you (or anyone else) fancies one of them you could let me know what it's like before I think about buying one
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Pretty much identical to what I've got. I'm no expert on cases - it looks nice, and seems well made. My 300W PSU never caused any stability problems, although it died after 10 months so keep el receipt.
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2 Jan 2003, 23:43
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Ok update
have my 80gb western digital hd so far
athlon 2000+ xp arrived today
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe should arrive next week
thinking of gettin a cheiftec case not sure what colour yet any suggestions
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11 Jan 2003, 23:04
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- Case <-- Silver Chieftec Scorpio
- Mainboard <--- Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2
- CPU + fan <-- athlon 2000+ includin heatsink, fan + 3 year waranty
- RAM <--- Still got to buy
- Hard disk <--- 80gb western digital
- Keyboard <--- Chieftec Cordless Silver Keyboard
- Graphics card <--- Will probly get ge-force 4 one.
- Monitor <--- Not sure probly flat screen
- Mouse <--- Chieftec Cordless Silver Mouse
- Floppy disk drive <--- Cheap
- CD-ROM of some sort <--- Cheap
- CD-rw - Use the one in my current pc seems to work fine again
- Speakers - Use the hi-fi speakers have good sound qual atm
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12 Jan 2003, 01:21
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Get an AMD 2400 XP.
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12 Jan 2003, 02:00
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Quote:
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Get an AMD 2400 XP.
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got the 2000xp cheap thou
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12 Jan 2003, 02:45
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got the 2000xp cheap thou
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cant you ask them if theyll steal a 2400 for you instead?
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13 Jan 2003, 11:45
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Id advise you to buy a prebuilt PC rather than buying the parts individually.
[edit - oh, this is from like, 2 weeks ago. Never mind then]
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13 Jan 2003, 19:44
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Id advise you to buy a prebuilt PC rather than buying the parts individually.
[edit - oh, this is from like, 2 weeks ago. Never mind then]
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prebuild pcs r ****e and slow and cost more
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13 Jan 2003, 19:58
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they usually arent quite as good as a custom built pc but they are cheaper these days I beleive
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13 Jan 2003, 22:53
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they usually arent quite as good as a custom built pc but they are cheaper these days I beleive
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how many pcs do u see with the asus a7n8x mobo and a chieftec case pre built
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13 Jan 2003, 23:03
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Quote:
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how many pcs do u see with the asus a7n8x mobo and a chieftec case pre built
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hence why I said "they usually arent quite as good as a custom built pc's". And you cab get them built for you if you really need to have those parts
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Quote:
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hence why I said "they usually arent quite as good as a custom built pc's". And you cab get them built for you if you really need to have those parts
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would probly have to pay double of what they actually cost me
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14 Jan 2003, 01:33
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Re: Building a new pc
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Originally posted by cookiemay
What are all the parts im going to need to build a new pc eg motherboard, graphics card etc
also were would the best place to be to buy pc cases
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a small bit of advice if you dont know whatts in a pc i wouldent atempt to try and biuld one you may as well flush money down the toilet
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14 Jan 2003, 19:41
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Re: Re: Building a new pc
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a small bit of advice if you dont know whatts in a pc i wouldent atempt to try and biuld one you may as well flush money down the toilet
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is a mouse inside the pc??
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14 Jan 2003, 20:58
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Re: Re: Re: Building a new pc
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is a mouse inside the pc??
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depends if you put cheese in it
and damnit, I want my smilies back :/
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