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28 Jul 2006, 10:39
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Rah's def wh0re
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1up you guys losing?
Hmm,
I'm not exi but this is sad
So where did it go 1up : Honor.
Publishing the coords from your EXI, SAD SAD SAD.
Can't you win the war by yourself?
SAD
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28 Jul 2006, 10:43
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Join Date: May 2002
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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28 Jul 2006, 10:43
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
lol honour
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28 Jul 2006, 10:55
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Hibernating
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
Any little bit of respect i had for 1up is now totally gone.
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28 Jul 2006, 10:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manchester
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
tbh its a war game, deal with it. it may have been low but eXi are doing other things just as low. Im sure there are a good few eXi planets still breaking the new rules, now i guess they have just as much honour. if 1up is bad then so too is eXi.
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28 Jul 2006, 11:18
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Veedeejem!
Any little bit of respect i had for 1up is now totally gone.
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28 Jul 2006, 11:22
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Non directed and witty
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: #ascendancy
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
tbh i think its a rather good tactic...
[insert blah blah blah spirit of the game]
but yeha good idea..
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28 Jul 2006, 11:25
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Who cares?
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
noone forces alliances to make use of exi coords and go attack them. People can still choose
It just gets abit easier, but then again if you know 1up wants you to then thats a good reason not to.
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28 Jul 2006, 11:30
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Banned
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by MiX
It just gets abit easier, but then again if you know 1up wants you to then thats a good reason not to.
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Actually it's a good reason to do so rationally speaking. Due to the fact 1up incs will be concentrated against exilition and exilition incs concentrated against 1up fleets available to defend against you and retal your planet will be correspondingly fewer. That said there's always the chance you'll be wave five on a planet with 300 roids. That said you could be smart and get your alliance members to have a look for when 1up fleets are launched, wait five ticks and then wave a few of their roid-fat planets.
PS Just a reminder to everyone not to post any co-ords or links to co-ords in this thread, or anywhere on the forums.
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28 Jul 2006, 11:38
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Who cares?
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
Actually it's a good reason to do so rationally speaking. Due to the fact 1up incs will be concentrated against exilition and exilition incs concentrated against 1up fleets available to defend against you and retal your planet will be correspondingly fewer. That said there's always the chance you'll be wave five on a planet with 300 roids.
PS Just a reminder to everyone not to post any co-ords or links to co-ords in this thread, or anywhere on the forums.
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Seeing this obvious start of a war means you can attack both sides for those easy roids. Just that you have all exi planets in arby now versus only part of the 1up planets makes it easier to go for exi. However going for 1up will still get you the easy roids you would get in any war.
What I ment with my last line is that just blindly doing what 1up wants you to do: attacking exil planets. Is probably silly and them showing us what they want us to do is just free information for us. As long as people dont go mass attack exil just because 1up wants them to there is nothing wrong with 1up posting those coords.
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28 Jul 2006, 11:51
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
But surely this can be 1ups only intention in posting a co-ord list.
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28 Jul 2006, 11:59
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
I read this thread and thought 'cry me a river'.
Considering Exilition the alliance that plays selectively, has a history of simply outblocking 1up rather than taking them on 1 on 1, I doubt 1up cares about honour when it comes to Exilition.
I'd question why you respect any alliance that isn't your own in the first place. They are your rivals, aren't they?
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28 Jul 2006, 12:01
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Banned
Join Date: May 2001
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by MiX
Seeing this obvious start of a war means you can attack both sides for those easy roids. Just that you have all exi planets in arby now versus only part of the 1up planets makes it easier to go for exi. However going for 1up will still get you the easy roids you would get in any war.
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Presumably not everyone knows where all the 1up planets are.
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What I ment with my last line is that just blindly doing what 1up wants you to do: attacking exil planets. Is probably silly and them showing us what they want us to do is just free information for us. As long as people dont go mass attack exil just because 1up wants them to there is nothing wrong with 1up posting those coords.
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I'm quite sure what you mean by "wrong" but I'd tentatively agree with your point. This cannot, in itself, be a bad thing for 1up and might very well be a good thing for the rest of us. Obviously it's in the interests of everyone who isn't 1up or exilition to prolong this war as much as possible and take advantage of situation. As exilition are leading score-wise and roid-wise it's a better idea to hit them. It's just maths really though and doesn't bother taking certain non-self-evident political considerations into account.
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28 Jul 2006, 12:04
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Who cares?
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
we can agree then
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28 Jul 2006, 12:09
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Fightin-irish for life
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
all's fair in love and war
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28 Jul 2006, 12:34
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InSomniac
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
i personally thought 1up was above something like this, leaving this kind of action to the likes of ikke withe the xVx co-ords lists(lol). perhaps i was wrong
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28 Jul 2006, 12:35
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Black Power MotherF*ckas!
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
I thought 1up was just going to sit back and take it for the 3rd time in a row. Good on those 1up fellows.
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28 Jul 2006, 12:51
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Jack In The Box
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by lokken
Considering Exilition the alliance that plays selectively, has a history of simply outblocking 1up rather than taking them on 1 on 1, I doubt 1up cares about honour when it comes to Exilition.
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28 Jul 2006, 12:53
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Adelante
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Mek
i personally thought 1up was above something like this, leaving this kind of action to the likes of ikke withe the xVx co-ords lists(lol). perhaps i was wrong
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Who was it that said: "When u fight a beast, careful that u don't become the beast?"
Anyways.. 1up honour might have cost em a few rounds win earlier.
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28 Jul 2006, 13:00
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The brother of Spammer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Paisley - Scotland
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by lokken
I read this thread and thought 'cry me a river'.
Considering Exilition the alliance that plays selectively, has a history of simply outblocking 1up rather than taking them on 1 on 1, I doubt 1up cares about honour when it comes to Exilition.
I'd question why you respect any alliance that isn't your own in the first place. They are your rivals, aren't they?
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Totally near the knuckle chuckle stuff.
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28 Jul 2006, 13:20
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by -=Yggdra=-
I really thought you knew better.
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Well I only used the general impression I get from exilition. I don't see anything particularly wrong in that.
I would laugh like Paisley but i've seen many of these threads before and they have lost the funny for me
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28 Jul 2006, 13:48
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No Alliance
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: England
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
its a cler tactic im sure with their firepower surely being used against each other attacking exil at the prime times would be the best idea.
To say its against the spirit of the game is rediculous. how can you say that its clearly rediculous.
On an intresting point if you attacked exi cos of the release of co-ords would you count as a support planet lol
anyway as long as a war happens it will be intresting.
and finally all is fair in love and war. Although the amount of love between 1up and exi is hardly high im sure.
Anyway we all know posting co-ords is good for the game as people might attack the high planets hoping to land a lucky attack.
The question is would people be complaining if exi released 1 up co-ords?
oh well
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28 Jul 2006, 14:19
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: London, UK
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by aestuos
The question is would people be complaining if exi released 1 up co-ords?
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Exi wouldn't need to. They're more than capable of beating another alliance on their own.
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28 Jul 2006, 14:22
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by -=Yggdra=-
I really thought you knew better.
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Indeed, no need to outblock someone when you have a gazillion friends support your alliance from outside the tag
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28 Jul 2006, 14:23
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Banned
Join Date: May 2001
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Tomkat
Exi wouldn't need to. They're more than capable of beating another alliance on their own.
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28 Jul 2006, 14:29
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Vitriolic
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: #public
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Tomkat
Exi wouldn't need to. They're more than capable of beating another alliance on their own.
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Whats with the all new fascination of trolling? You never used to be such a shit poster. Have you caught something since joining your new alliance? Maxitis
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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28 Jul 2006, 14:31
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Banned
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by mazzelaar
You never used to be such a shit poster.
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I can assure you, on behalf of myself and GD, that this was not the case. Also mazz your sig is now four lines too long, something will have to go/be shortened
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28 Jul 2006, 14:33
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Vitriolic
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
I can assure you, on behalf of myself and GD, that this was not the case. Also mazz your sig is now four lines too long, something will have to go/be shortened
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood
mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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28 Jul 2006, 14:48
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
Post 1ups coords, and it's even \o/
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28 Jul 2006, 14:51
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The brother of Spammer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Paisley - Scotland
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by lokken
Well I only used the general impression I get from exilition. I don't see anything particularly wrong in that.
I would laugh like Paisley but i've seen many of these threads before and they have lost the funny for me
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28 Jul 2006, 15:01
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I'm who you want me to be
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: In a flat place, enjoying RL
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
What's the big fuzz about, aren't coords normally known after a while anyway? Besides - considering the quantity-game exi played last time to beat 1up, anyone talking about honour considering 1up vs exi needs a reality check.
I'm sorry, but an alliance that outblocks their opponent in a stage of planetarion where it is very clear that blocking ruins a round, and ultimately, the entire game, AND doesn't have the balls to face a decent opponent two rounds in a row, doesn't deserve any honourable acts from their opponents anyway.
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28 Jul 2006, 15:21
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Estharian
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Finland
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by lokken
I read this thread and thought 'cry me a river'.
Considering Exilition the alliance that plays selectively, has a history of simply
outblocking 1up rather than taking them on 1 on 1, I doubt 1up cares
about honour when it comes to Exilition.
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Thank you for making my post shorter.
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28 Jul 2006, 15:23
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InSomniac
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
but the very fact that 1up and exilition are pretty much matched pound for pouind in quality do 1up really need to sink this low to beat exilition?? no they bloody well dont :P
it just strikes me as an act of desperation from 1up
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28 Jul 2006, 15:28
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:alpha:
Join Date: May 2002
Location: London, UK
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by mazzelaar
Whats with the all new fascination of trolling? You never used to be such a shit poster. Have you caught something since joining your new alliance? Maxitis
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I wasn't trolling. I was just giving my opinion.
I couldn't care less that you've posted them "publicly". There's nothing in the rules to say you can't, and this honour idea is a bit silly anyway (I mean for chrissakes, it's a glorified online spreadsheet we're talking about here). I honestly don't think it'll make that much of an impact upon the war.
My post above (the "trolling" one, according to you) was simply stating that Exilition don't need to post 1up's coordinates publicly. I doubt it would make much, if any, difference - they can win without doing it.
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28 Jul 2006, 15:36
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Banned
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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I wasn't trolling. I was just giving my opinion.
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It's a silly opinion though. Firstly the goal isn't just to beat 1up, this is not a 1up versus exilition game. Just beating 1up the last two times exilition played would have resulted in them finishing #4 and #5 I believe. Secondly exilition have played the political game in previous rounds and have done very well at it too. This is to be applauded not forgotten and written out of history. Thirdly this also means that we have not seen exilition fight with no allies so your claim is groundless unless you're basing it on some internal viewpoint you now have of exilition which "you'd only know if you were there" which while inconclusive as regards veracity is inane, unconstructive, unfalsifiable and belongs on AD about as much as a discussion about the emotional state of Pandy the teenager panda who is just noticing female pandas and has started to see changes in his body that he doesn't quite understand.
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28 Jul 2006, 15:38
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Thirdly this also means that we have not seen exilition fight with no allies so your claim is groundless
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PT 499
Rank Change Name Asteroids Members AVG Score Score
1 eXi 33129 64 737,799 47,219,156
2 1up 26674 65 668,431 43,448,028
3 Subh 24339 61 607,666 37,067,661
4 Omen 26208 64 571,578 36,580,996
5 xVx 22090 65 514,720 33,456,854
And by the way, you know there's a difference between having allies in the form of other alliances and just posting a bunch of coordinates, inviting a free-for-all, don't you?
If you read my post and the post I quoted, I was responding by saying "Exilition would not need to post coordinates publicly as they can win on their own". IE: without inviting every man and his dog to go and attack them.
There is a difference, and it isn't especially subtle either. Read the posts properly please
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28 Jul 2006, 15:39
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
Nobody remembers who's #1 at tick 500. In fact the majority of the rounds since r10 I'm pretty sure the alliance that was #1 at tick 500 hasn't gone on to win it.
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28 Jul 2006, 15:46
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
What?
You said "we havent seen Exiltion play without allies".
I showed you that we have - and if you click on the Alliance page in PA you can quite clearly see that we are seeing them play without allies.
Oh I see - you MEANT to say "we havent seen exilition win a round without allies". You should word your posts more clearly
Well I'll refer you to my other point - inviting the entire universe to attack an alliance by releasing their coords and regularly updated scans is NOT the same as forming an alliance with another ally of 65 members.
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28 Jul 2006, 15:51
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Bona Fide Jesus Freak
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In the Word of the Lord
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
Seems to be more about logic than anything. Simply put eXilition has more roids per player than any alliance out there with 518 roids per player at tick 499.
The next closest is Njubs vs Norway with 444 roids per player.
Seems more like a Robin Hood situation to me.
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god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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28 Jul 2006, 15:52
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Banned
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Oh I see - you MEANT to say "we havent seen exilition win a round without allies". You should word your posts more clearly
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Seeing as I started off that post with a clear reference to the fact that winning the round is the question, not performing better than x alliance or being #1 at tick y I felt sure such a deep and complex thinker as yourself could put two and two together and come up with an answer somewhere between 3.5 and 4.5. What did you think I meant by play? Five minutes of playing? Eight ticks? Time spent in protection?
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Well I'll refer you to my other point - inviting the entire universe to attack an alliance by releasing their coords and regularly updated scans is NOT the same as forming an alliance with another ally of 65 members.
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That said I don't really get your actual point. If alliance x allied with alliance y to attack alliance z that's probably going to end up in a lot more incoming for alliance z than if alliance x just released co-ords and scans of alliance z. Especially in, realistically, a 500 planet universe (by this I mean approximately 500 planets are going to be involved in the fight for the #1 spot).
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28 Jul 2006, 15:58
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Vitriolic
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Travler
Seems more like a Robin Hood situation to me.
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Me and Sid in tights?
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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28 Jul 2006, 16:00
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This is bat country
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by General1
Hmm,
I'm not exi but this is sad
So where did it go 1up : Honor.
Publishing the coords from your EXI, SAD SAD SAD.
Can't you win the war by yourself?
SAD
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Posting someones coords lists was never a problem before some wannabe know-how'er like yourself decided that it was against moral conduct of just about everything.
The fact that you even try to persuade anyone else here that your uneducated view is the correct one is nothing but frustrating and mindnumbing to everyone else who has been here since the word go.
coords lists were okay in round1-2-3 4-5-6 and so on. Hey, they were even cheered for once posted. Spies, intel, leaks. It has been a part of the game forever, and hopefully will remain so. The unwritten rule that it should not be posted anywhere doesnt exist anywhere but in your feeble little mind.
You do what you do to get on the top. But you dont break the rules. Other than that, its pretty much fair game, unless some other holier-than-thou person wants to bring God and Ethics and other bolony into this.
Its a game, posting intel in public has nothing to do with honour. Go visit your grandparents instead, thats honour for you.
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28 Jul 2006, 16:00
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: London, UK
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
Seeing as I started off that post with a clear reference to the fact that winning the round is the question, not performing better than x alliance or being #1 at tick y I felt sure such a deep and complex thinker as yourself could put two and two together and come up with an answer somewhere between 3.5 and 4.5. What did you think I meant by play? Five minutes of playing? Eight ticks? Time spent in protection?
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I just read all your posts as a multitude of sentences not linked by anything other than their proximity to each other
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
That said I don't really get your actual point. If alliance x allied with alliance y to attack alliance z that's probably going to end up in a lot more incoming for alliance z than if alliance x just released co-ords and scans of alliance z.
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I agree. I don't think it'll make much difference to the war at all.
Which is why I don't think Exilition will bother releasing 1up's coords:
1. It won't benefit them much as the impact on the war from it will be minimal
2. It would just tarnish their reputation and give people a reason to try and nullify their win (assuming they do win).
3. Giving away intel of any level or description is generally a bad idea.
It wasn't supposed to be a not-so-subtle jab at 1up as in "Exilition don't need to release coordinates to win! 1up do though! They smell of wee!". Balancing up the advantages/disadvantages of releasing them, I doubt Exilition will bother - obviously the 1up command team disagree with me and think the advantages DO outweigh the disadvantages.
Of course I have been known to be wrong in the past (very rarely!).
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28 Jul 2006, 16:02
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Legion Idle Master
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 425
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt 1ups arbiter hacked also at the beggining of the round and there coords sent around in public? I dont personaly see 1up doing anything in wrong. If it was fair for them to be hacked and of course have there coords publicaly sent around, then its ok for them to do that. Everything is fair in love and war it seems.
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28 Jul 2006, 16:04
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: London, UK
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by I am Idler
Its a game, posting intel in public has nothing to do with honour. Go visit your grandparents instead, thats honour for you.
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I don't think it's about just releasing the coords though. It's more to do with the scans which are (supposedly) going to be constantly updated.
I don't think honour has much/anything to do with PA anyway, though.
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28 Jul 2006, 16:04
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Bona Fide Jesus Freak
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In the Word of the Lord
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by mazzelaar
Me and Sid in tights?
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That is a mental image I was not prepared for. I just hope I don't have to listen to any singing from the Merry Men. :P
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god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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28 Jul 2006, 16:10
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Vitriolic
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: #public
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Willzzz
Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt 1ups arbiter hacked also at the beggining of the round and there coords sent around in public? I dont personaly see 1up doing anything in wrong. If it was fair for them to be hacked and of course have there coords publicaly sent around, then its ok for them to do that. Everything is fair in love and war it seems.
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Hacked, probably not (thanks to the ISP for having a 34 second log rotation ). Coords passed around, definately.
Which is why Tomkat will shortly say that what Sid did and people accepting the compromised coord list are two entirely different things.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood
mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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28 Jul 2006, 16:10
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Banned
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Further to the right
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Tomkat
I just read all your posts as a multitude of sentences not linked by anything other than their proximity to each other
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Don't worry it's a step up from some people who I'm pretty sure don't read my posts, construct an imaginary post in their heads, and reply to that.
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I agree. I don't think it'll make much difference to the war at all.
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That's not quite what I said, although you're not actually saying I said it it is sort of implied. I said it would have less impact. Races are sometimes won in fine margins though.
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2. It would just tarnish their reputation and give people a reason to try and nullify their win (assuming they do win).
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PA, in general, hasn't been proven to give much of a toss about alliance's reputations in terms of "preventing them win".
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3. Giving away intel of any level or description is generally a bad idea.
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Can you explain this a bit further? I mean it's fine as a guiding principle but what exactly can they lose out on in this situation?
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It wasn't supposed to be a not-so-subtle jab at 1up as in "Exilition don't need to release coordinates to win! 1up do though! They smell of wee!".
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You should recruit dante. Then you'd smell like wee
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Balancing up the advantages/disadvantages of releasing them, I doubt Exilition will bother - obviously the 1up command team disagree with me and think the advantages DO outweigh the disadvantages.
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I don't think they will because doing so indicates a reactive nature which it isn't wise to expose in PA.
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Of course I have been known to be wrong in the past (very rarely!).
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I see you misspelt frequently there but it's okay I put 2 and 2 together and came up with an answer in between 3.5 and 4.5
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28 Jul 2006, 16:11
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
I'd be annoyed as hell if/when it got done to my alliance.
But it's a fair enough tactic IMO, so long as the coords were gained by normal intel gathering techniques rather than hacking into PA for example.
eXilition are quite capable of doing exactly the same back, if they so desire. And I've still not seen eXilition fight a war on their own; as one of their officers said to me;
'yeah, but eX play dirty'.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with what eX have done either; along with 1up, they're a league ahead of any other alliance in this game and have been since they were formed; I still don't believe I've seen them fight a war one on one. But then again, I don't know if I can think of any genuinely one on one wars near the top...
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28 Jul 2006, 16:24
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Inquisitor
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: England
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Re: 1up you guys losing?
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Originally Posted by Mek
but the very fact that 1up and exilition are pretty much matched pound for pouind in quality do 1up really need to sink this low to beat exilition?? no they bloody well dont :P
it just strikes me as an act of desperation from 1up
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Act of desperation my arse. I only wish Sid had copied what he did back in the earlier rounds and used Sandmans to display eXilition coords. Then you could all whine about honour some more.
Frankly, look at the past of eXilition actions and what they have brought to the game and then compare to 1up. We're a shining angel in all comparison. (Put out for ole Xanadu players ho!)
Perhaps you shouldnt be looking at where they are posted anyway ;\
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