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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 12:28   #1
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Webdesigners, tell me:

WHY would you make a page so that when I click the ´BACK´ button, you would reload the site I was on? That is annoying and serves no purpose.

Imagine going in to a store, and they would close the door behind you... I mean what´s that all about.
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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 12:38   #2
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

Yeah this pisses me off too, especially when surfing porn
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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 12:40   #3
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

Click on the small arrow between "Back" and "Forward". Then a list of all 10-15 recently viewed pages pops up and you're free to click to whatever page you wanna go back to. That's how I counter that problem, and yeah, I'd love to see those webdesigners die slowly with a stiff chickenc*ck up their arse.
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

What actually happens is that when you click originally to enter the site you are forwarded on from one web page to another, clicking back returns you to the original webpage which forwards you back on again.


Hurrah I understand something technological about the internet!
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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 12:46   #5
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

Well, finally, someone who explains it. But it LOOKS as if I´m not forwarded... Anyway it is stupid from a marketing experience. At least, so I told my marketing manager. I´m such a smart boss.

* yeah yeah stole that from Dilbert.
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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 13:09   #6
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

Just keep hammering backspace till you escape!

You will prevail.
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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 13:11   #7
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

Oh I escape, no problem, it´s just that it dazzles me that a designer would include something that makes me frown and turns the whole webpage experience into a negative one.
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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 13:15   #8
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

I've not seen <marquee /> used in a while =(((

When Internet2 kicks in we should revert all of Internet1 back to a 1990's web design museum and force clients to apply a filter that adds inappropriate animated gifs of flames and <blink> tags everywhere.
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Unread 7 Jul 2006, 13:22   #9
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

You are a cruel, cruel man.

You would use green text on yellow and orange text on red too, wouldn´t you.
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

I always get annoyed with you're on a "secured" page and click the back button cuz you forgot something on the previous page, and it either gives you a blank screen with a message page cannot be loaded, or it will load, but the form or whatever is now blank.
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

Web designers tend to do a lot of stupid stuff; interfering with the basic function of the "Back" button is only one of many things.
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

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I always get annoyed with you're on a "secured" page and click the back button cuz you forgot something on the previous page, and it either gives you a blank screen with a message page cannot be loaded, or it will load, but the form or whatever is now blank.
that can be really annoying especially when you wrote a real long important thing then when u backspace you forget what u wrote the first time
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

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WHY would you make a page so that when I click the ´BACK´ button, you would reload the site I was on? That is annoying and serves no purpose.

Imagine going in to a store, and they would close the door behind you... I mean what´s that all about.
The previous page is most likley a redirection page, so press your browser's back button you get redirected back to where you were. You can normally get around this by clicking twice in quick succession. One such reason for having to use a redirection may be if your organisation needs to publish a document/whatever with a URL in it. Perhaps it's a page in magazine advertising a new service with a memoarble URL, www.whatever.com/whatever this page may need to be sent for publishing before the actual web content/application has even been written, and most likely when it is it will sit somewhere else based on the website's structure. So the URL you published is just a page the redirects to where the content eventually winds up, you could call it a lack of planning, but it's common practice.
Another reason might be if a link on a page will have to be updated frequently for whatever reason, rather than having to edit the actual page each time, it's simpler to just link to a redirection page and edit that if/when.

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I always get annoyed with you're on a "secured" page and click the back button cuz you forgot something on the previous page, and it either gives you a blank screen with a message page cannot be loaded, or it will load, but the form or whatever is now blank.
It's to make sure other people using the computer can't access any possibly sensitive data you may have entered, caching was turned off for the previous page or it was given an instant expiry.

I'm not saying this is the case here, but as a developer myself, people that use the browser back button and get themselves into this situation when I've put a 'Back' button control on the goddamn form will get no sympathy from me. If however there is no 'Back' button on the form the developer is a twat, users should always be given the option of stepping back to the very first page/step if they choose to do so. The only time you don't provide a 'Back' button is if the transaction/request/whatever has actually been completed and they're on the acknowledgement/receipt/success page where is is too late to go back.
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

If there's a good reason for a re-direct, you get the server to do it. No excuse for an intermediate page.
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Re: Webdesigners, tell me:

It's mainly done by
1) idiots, or
2) people who have no reason to care if you're pissed off.

eg.
1) Lawl look at my first homepage aren't i great animated gifs orange text on a green background annoying music and i can "force" you to stay 5 seconds longer!
2) You're a WINNER!! 100% FREE access to HARDCORE PORN!!! Just click here NOW!!!!


The other major issue is with the new fashion for AJAX site (sorry, "web applications"), because AJAX completely breaks the back button much like flash sites. For example, clicking the back button in Windows Live Mail (the replacement for Hotmail currently in beta) has given me some rather unexpected results before now.
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