Planetarion Forums - Second half, Dodgy ref, shouldn't have been a penalty just then

Phang · 22 Nov 2003, 11:55

fs.

midge5 · 22 Nov 2003, 11:57

very dodgy, he is killing the English scrum with his calls. The majority of the 50-50 decisions seem to be going the aussies way.

Phang · 22 Nov 2003, 11:59

comedy 'erase the ref from the record and leave it at 14-8' option

midge5 · 22 Nov 2003, 12:02

Good kick, hopefully England can hold on this time :/

Phang · 22 Nov 2003, 12:04

worst pass ever

Nodrog · 22 Nov 2003, 12:06

You cant spell rugbay without 'gay'

Phang · 22 Nov 2003, 12:07

*fap*

madi · 22 Nov 2003, 12:08

he does appear to be slightly Aus friendly
but i am biased

Phang · 22 Nov 2003, 12:19

woo only about 5 minutes left woo

Dante Hicks · 22 Nov 2003, 12:28

England in winning something shocker.

midge5 · 22 Nov 2003, 12:29

YES!! brilliant win, congratulations. At least I can say now Wales went out to the winners

Phang · 22 Nov 2003, 12:30

****ing yes

madi · 22 Nov 2003, 12:32

Embroglio · 22 Nov 2003, 12:33

hah **** you ref

JC · 22 Nov 2003, 12:52

\o\ \o/ /o/

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JonnyBGood · 22 Nov 2003, 13:15

Poor Elton Flatley

Work_Child · 22 Nov 2003, 13:21

I used to play rugby for my primary school...

cheekybru · 22 Nov 2003, 13:36

\o/ *Cheers madly singing "We are the champions"

Deepflow · 22 Nov 2003, 14:46

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Poor Elton Flatley

heh, at least he can console himself after 2 brilliant brilliant pressure kicks.

shouldnt have gone to extra time though, that penalty at the end was quite dodgy, the ref was DUTCH wasnt he?

Zharkov · 22 Nov 2003, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Deepflow

the ref was DUTCH wasnt he?

South African, but the point still stands heh.

JonnyBGood · 22 Nov 2003, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Deepflow

heh, at least he can console himself after 2 brilliant brilliant pressure kicks.

shouldnt have gone to extra time though, that penalty at the end was quite dodgy, the ref was DUTCH wasnt he?

I felt so sorry for him. I've got a mate who missed the last kick of the game in the semi-final of the Lenister (one of the 3 provinces of ireland) senior cup and he was totally devastated for ages afterwards. The pressure on Flatley must have been mind-boggling, and to go through that twice and not win is horrible

Weeks · 22 Nov 2003, 15:53

Beautiful!

"We've won, We've won!!"
- Johnny Wilkinson after his drop goal in the last minute of the game!

roadrunner_0 · 22 Nov 2003, 16:22

england certainly know how to put themselves under pressure though, don't they fs?
they should have wrapped that game up much earlier

Deffeh · 23 Nov 2003, 00:40

2 tries in three games or something, eh?

lokken · 23 Nov 2003, 02:41

I hear the Australians aren't taking it well

I believe the media haven't admitted England won yet.

Rids · 23 Nov 2003, 03:09

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Originally Posted by lokken

I hear the Australians aren't taking it well.

What a ****ing shame.

lokken · 23 Nov 2003, 03:15

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Originally Posted by Rids

What a ****ing shame.

I want to put the final score in big red lights on Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Rids · 23 Nov 2003, 03:17

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Originally Posted by lokken

I want to put the final score in big red lights on Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Hmm, nice idea, making all Aussie radio stations play Swing Low Sweet Chariot over and over again might be cool also.

lokken · 23 Nov 2003, 03:22

Being in London does this not give you the opportunity to mock most barmen in sight?

Rids · 23 Nov 2003, 03:23

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Originally Posted by lokken

Being in London does this not give you the opportunity to mock most barmen in sight?

You are counting on me being able to afford to go to a bar. However, I do know of several 'walkabouts' staffed by aussies, and frequented by aussies. If you would like to provide me with the cash requirements, I shall commence said mocking.

H1TMANish · 23 Nov 2003, 03:25

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Originally Posted by lokken

I hear the Australians aren't taking it well

I believe the media haven't admitted England won yet.

i know some aussies who were really having a hard time over the loss. it made our win seem so much sweeter.

lokken · 23 Nov 2003, 03:30

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Originally Posted by H1TMANish

i know some aussies who were really having a hard time over the loss. it made our win seem so much sweeter.

excellent, this should keep the convicts quiet for a while

imagine if we beat them at cricket.

H1TMANish · 23 Nov 2003, 03:35

ok your taking the piss now

Weeks · 23 Nov 2003, 03:35

Winning at cricket? Moon on a stick?

I wouldn't be that smug really.
But as the Aussies aren't taking it like men.
*Smugness mode: Active*

Rids · 23 Nov 2003, 03:36

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Originally Posted by lokken

imagine if we beat them at cricket.

Yeah ****ing right

Bob The Scutter · 23 Nov 2003, 04:00

they sound like very poor losers

did anyone see the papers and stuff they had out when it was determined they were to play England, saying that they have to stop Wilkinson, cos hes the only one who can win it, and only by kickng, which they say is pathetic....

maybe the assuies are forgetting something here.. who was it that won the last world cup and reason being they relied heavily on the drop goal kicking of one of their players hmm? without that they wouldnt have made it into the semis last time

Deffeh · 23 Nov 2003, 14:20

But still.. without wilkinson you probably would have been proper ****ed

lokken · 24 Nov 2003, 01:46

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Originally Posted by Rids

Yeah ****ing right

yes, I know it's not likely to happen

but imagine if it did

Bob The Scutter · 24 Nov 2003, 01:48

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Originally Posted by Deffeh

But still.. without wilkinson you probably would have been proper ****ed

we would, but without Elton Flatley, the Aussies would have been proper ****ed

but then again maybe we wouldnt have been proper ****ed... the Aussies found it very hard to cross our line. we got closer to it on a few occasions with quick outbursts, but our defence was almost immaculate

Deffeh · 24 Nov 2003, 02:25

The only way i can look at it.... how many tries did previous world cup winning sides attain in the three knockout rounds of the world cup?

I dont know - but ill bet that it was a damn site more than 2 in 250+ minutes of rugby

Dante Hicks · 24 Nov 2003, 02:40

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Originally Posted by Deffeh

The only way i can look at it.... how many tries did previous world cup winning sides attain in the three knockout rounds of the world cup?

Why on Earth does that matter?

Deffeh · 24 Nov 2003, 04:44

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Why on Earth does that matter?

because by definition, that means the rest of englands points were kicks?

kicked by who?

Wilkinson

ie

if you didnt have him, you would have been proper ****ed

JonnyBGood · 24 Nov 2003, 04:51

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Why on Earth does that matter?

As someone who played schools rugby for one of the top schools in the british isles (go me it's my birthday) I can tell you it really ****ing sucks if you have one team that plays fantastic flowing try-scoring rugby and runs the ball only to be outdone by a one man army. To be honest it's a shockingly poor advertisement for the game. The 1991 world cup was epitomised by David Campese who never seemed to score a bad try, the 95 world cup was Jonah Lomu running over defenders, the 99 world cup was really really gay and about defences but it still had lomu running over defenders. The 03 world cup is an advertisement for getting one man in your team and having him kick 20 points a game minimum. If New Zealand or France had won it the image of rugby that would have been promoted would have encouraged far more young people to take up the sport. To be honest "yeah well our tactics are the bestest" is a shit argument. Rugby is a sport, it's a game and it's supposed to be fun. I just cannot fathom how playing that style of rugby can be fun.

JonnyBGood · 24 Nov 2003, 05:03

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Originally Posted by Weeks

Cos we won?

Means don't justify ends.

PS Were you playing for England in the world cup final? If so :ninja: if not why did you reply?

lokken · 24 Nov 2003, 05:08

Liverpool tried this argument when they won 5 trophies etc etc.

Fact is they played shite football, they knew it and everyone else knew it, so no one cared.

JonnyBGood · 24 Nov 2003, 05:12

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Originally Posted by lokken

Liverpool tried this argument when they won 5 trophies etc etc.

Fact is they played shite football, they knew it and everyone else knew it, so no one cared.

The best bit was when they counted the charity shield as a trophy as well as the European super cup.

midge5 · 24 Nov 2003, 11:57

[quote=JonnyBGood]Means don't justify ends.
[quote]

If Wales had used the most boring tactics in the world but beaten Russia in the football playoffs or got to the rugby final I wouldn't care I would just be celebrating us getting there.

England didn't play the most entertaining of rugby but they played to their strengths and won. If your forwards and kicking are your strength then why go for an open game if it will just cause you to lose, the opposition know what you will do so it is up to them to counter you. However, to be fair to them, I think they scored more tries than they conceded and if teams are going to give away penalties half the time you get near their tryline(Wales conceded a rediculous amount :/ ) and you have a kicker as good as Wilkinson then you can't blame them for kicking instead of kicking for the corner.

I agree that it isn't the best advertisment for rugby though.

MrL_JaKiri · 24 Nov 2003, 12:04

England were forced to play kicking rugby because everyone who played us tried to limit the effect our forwards had on the game.

Only one dropgoal in the final doesn't seem like a kicking game to me; remember, when the opposition break the rules, they should be penalised; what if their infringements would have brought a try?

The fact is that, in all positions, England were at least a match for all other teams, something that was recognised by the opposition coaches, who I think may be more experienced rugby commentators than you fellows.

I am Idler · 24 Nov 2003, 12:29

rugby is a womens game!

all men should be playing gladiator

Deffeh · 24 Nov 2003, 13:25

My only comment is still you would have been ****ed without wilkinson, and its still correct.