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Unread 10 Oct 2007, 09:39   #1
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Round 23, the most boring round ever?

With eXi now 72 millions ahead of second place and not much going on in the universe I feel R23 sails up as one of the worst and least entertaining rounds ever. With 1600 planets (of whom barely 1200 is somewhat active) this is also the lowest count we've had ever.

Now, I'm sure some can say that the round was fun on an individual level, but I think that the game evolves around the alliances, and the alliances this round did an piss poor effort.

Im sure it doesnt help when there isnt any viable alternative to fight eXi or that only 3 alliances managed to fill their alliance up to 70 (lower alliance limits ahoy!).

Is this the best PA can get, is it impossible to improve it beyond this cheesy round where eXi is the only real alliance giving it an effort?
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Unread 10 Oct 2007, 09:44   #2
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

Given the current game mechanics i think this might be the best PA can get. With few players still willing to spend alot of time organizing groups of players (HC / MO), most alliances rely on the value/score accumulating ability of their players. Gather the best (to fill your tag), and you're most likely to win. This round is more of an exception due to eXi having the combination of both good score accumulating players, and an exceptional command team, thus an easy win.

edit: imo a serious problem is that fighting hard isn't rewarded as much as it should. It is quite interesting that not doing much on the political level (and just galraiding etc), can still quite easily give you a 'secure' top spot in the ranking -> why work hard if you can achieve the same in a relaxed manner?
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

Kargool, there are very few people willing to step up to do officer work. How do you think lower alliance limits will make it any better? Who's going to organize all the stuff for all the several smaller alliances? For once this is a serious question.

edit: I'm actually questioning if alliances are needed at all anymore.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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Kargool, there are very few people willing to step up to do officer work. How do you think lower alliance limits will make it any better? Who's going to organize all the stuff for all the several smaller alliances? For once this is a serious question.

edit: I'm actually questioning if alliances are needed at all anymore.
I've thought for a while now that the way forward for Planetarion might be to get rid of alliances in their current form and perhaps modify the galaxy structure to force that to be a persons' alliance. Wheter this involves increasing galaxy size and bringing back private galaxies i'm not sure. Might not work but hey, PA isnt going far in its current form.
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Unread 10 Oct 2007, 12:33   #5
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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edit: I'm actually questioning if alliances are needed at all anymore.
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Unread 10 Oct 2007, 17:41   #6
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

why u all don't see the main problem ?
ppl refuse to pay for a game that isn't worth it anymore (or ever was).

There are so many similar FREE Browsergames out there, maybe too many but still free ones are growing while p2p games are dieing.

i think this is the main problem of pa. if admins or jolt dosen't change this there won't be many other rounds of pa.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

as an answer to kargool's question, this is indeed the most boring round i have played (while actually putting in some effort), so boring that i decided mid round it's not worth it and simply quit.
i am curios as to when exactly jolt will stop making a profit out of it and decide to drop the whole project.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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why u all don't see the main problem ?
ppl refuse to pay for a game that isn't worth it anymore (or ever was).

There are so many similar FREE Browsergames out there, maybe too many but still free ones are growing while p2p games are dieing.

i think this is the main problem of pa. if admins or jolt dosen't change this there won't be many other rounds of pa.
Even if PA would be free I would not sign up for it because it's game mechanics simply are broken. It does not function anymore. The question whether it will be p2p or not can safely be ignored in this case.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

That other game is free, and it has even less players than PA. So much for the free vs pay argument.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

That other game is also ten times more shit that Planetarion.
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Unread 10 Oct 2007, 22:54   #11
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

your all complete idiots in my opinion


oooooooh noooooooooooooooeeeeeeeeessssssssssss 1.6k players 1.5k player back to 1.6k player then down to 1.5k players pa is dying noooooooooo noooooooooooooooooooo

for god sakes please sort your lifes out

while you lot are here to moan and iam here to laugh PA will exist and people will play it, saying its dying etc if your pathetic excuses for another dire round

PA aint dying it has over 1k players who are playing and iam sure most pay to play it has a decent playerbabse to keep jolt in business and keep pa team busy and it aint gonna be dropping soon, so what if a few people leave a round, dribbles and drabbles of friends etc are always joining, i think u lot should shut up whinging and play the game you spend so much time playing, with enthusasim and to try to recieve maximum enjoyment for a game we all love

well thats just how i see it anyways..

pa will be around for a long time, trust me.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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but I think that the game evolves around the alliances
then you aint in the know for this rd

here's a hint vs are targeting someone tonight and they have exi's help cause they need it
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what's wrong with that
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

For more rounds than I can think of that eXi has played, I always see that one thread (at least) about how, once again, they have run away with the round because they usually do.

This round has been no different from most of the others I have played in that there was an attempt at a resistance to stop eXi from winning early and it fell apart, we watch it happen over and over again and this is the prime example of history repeating itself because no one bothers to remember it.

All I want to see is one time where that aforementioned block actually succeeds, not because I have anything against eXilition, I have a deep respect for them and what they have accomplished, but because I need to have my hope restored for the HCs of all those other alliances. Hope that they can actually not act like children and accomplish something like an adult.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

pa's been dying for years....
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

Round 5 was worse than anything ever and if you can't see that then you haven't played long enough or have too short a memory. I think one alliance winning because they are better than everyone else is far more entertaining than 5 alliances just swamping the opposition and making it game over.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

Why is it boring?
Its up to everybody himself to have fun!
If you stick to allyattacks only and just pick given/scanned targets.....launch....look at given scans....recalll....well.....what fun do you expect?

Try something else, play the way you think that will give you some fun.
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Round 5 was worse than anything ever and if you can't see that then you haven't played long enough or have too short a memory. I think one alliance winning because they are better than everyone else is far more entertaining than 5 alliances just swamping the opposition and making it game over.
And do not forget about round 9.
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And do not forget about round 9.
I think Lokken is mistaken, I've never agreed with him that Round 5 was an extremely bad round. It was supposed to be the 'new powers' vs the 'old powers' after all and I feel Lokken always cheapens the victory that Furgion got, especially as I know from a Fury side of things it took a hell of a lot of work to do.
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I think Lokken is mistaken, I've never agreed with him that Round 5 was an extremely bad round. It was supposed to be the 'new powers' vs the 'old powers' after all and I feel Lokken always cheapens the victory that Furgion got, especially as I know from a Fury side of things it took a hell of a lot of work to do.
Was it a cheap victory? I don't think any victory in this game is cheap given the hours required, unless you are Ascendancy, but that's our niche. Was it easy? Yes. Was it boring? Yes. This is all I am talking about. Any round where a winning block cannibalises itself to keep itself entertained must be pretty terrible. For a number of reasons (none of them to do with being cannibalised, as Fury and Legion had no reason to do this), we were best off walking away when we did. There's no point playing the way we were, because quite honestly it wasn't a challenge and it wasn't interesting.

The opposition was outnumbered, we had a defence cooperation agreement that was unbelievably efficient (and didn't involve cheating) meaning we near always held roids and it was highly unlikely that Fury would turn on Legion. Apart from the creation of a defence system that really only DC's like me care about (because to most people defence is pretty ****ing boring), there's not much that kept me interested. Round 7 was marginally better, simply because Titans and Ministry throwing a spaz at 1:10 when we'd done absolutely nothing whatsoever to get planets deleted was absolutely ****ing hilarious.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

Lokken so when ascendancy won, you never launched recalled? you never checked jpgs? you never logged in 5+ times a day?

your full of useless crud....
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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Unread 12 Oct 2007, 08:48   #23
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

Wasnt most of round 2 and most of round 3 extremely boring too?

Certainly got that way for the triad.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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I think Lokken is mistaken, I've never agreed with him that Round 5 was an extremely bad round. It was supposed to be the 'new powers' vs the 'old powers' after all and I feel Lokken always cheapens the victory that Furgion got, especially as I know from a Fury side of things it took a hell of a lot of work to do.

lol. R5 was one of the most boring rounds ever. NoCex got wiped out in no time since they were outnumbered, and NoS crumbled fast. Wasn't really much of a challenge for Furgion. Makes it 5 vs. 2, and Cell weren't among the top of those 7 alliances. And weren't ViruS also helping out Fury?

Then again, unless they could control it of course, Furgion never had the balls to walk into a round unallied, and correct me if I'm wrong, Furgion basically never had the balls to fight each other (except r4?). My favorite was when they skrewed each others allies instead.
Served Ely right that round to get fked over like that though.
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

The reality is Exi just R Kelly'd the whole uni, and u all should feel disrespected...running around like roaches....
worst part is everyone sitting around..in a wargame
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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lol. R5 was one of the most boring rounds ever. NoCex got wiped out in no time since they were outnumbered, and NoS crumbled fast. Wasn't really much of a challenge for Furgion. Makes it 5 vs. 2, and Cell weren't among the top of those 7 alliances. And weren't ViruS also helping out Fury?

Then again, unless they could control it of course, Furgion never had the balls to walk into a round unallied, and correct me if I'm wrong, Furgion basically never had the balls to fight each other (except r4?). My favorite was when they skrewed each others allies instead.
Served Ely right that round to get fked over like that though.
Hardly my fault that this happened.

Furgion, as you recall in r5 had Fury who had suffered majorly in r4 from Sid's lack of presence and resultant almost-collapse. Lokken will however say many people underestimated Post-r4 Fury. Legion on the other hand had achieved a win, yet were overshadowed by their allies - many believing Legion to be a former shadow of itself (including that of Fury people). Xanadu and NoS were the 'new' big ones.

It is however ironic that a win for Fury in r4 would have yielded a better r5. (As Fury would not have existed)
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Re: Round 23, the most boring round ever?

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Hardly my fault that this happened.

Furgion, as you recall in r5 had Fury who had suffered majorly in r4 from Sid's lack of presence and resultant almost-collapse. Lokken will however say many people underestimated Post-r4 Fury. Legion on the other hand had achieved a win, yet were overshadowed by their allies - many believing Legion to be a former shadow of itself (including that of Fury people). Xanadu and NoS were the 'new' big ones.

It is however ironic that a win for Fury in r4 would have yielded a better r5. (As Fury would not have existed)
Well we overestimated r5 xanadu as well. Legion in round 5 were a bit of a joke. Still better than most, but by Legion's standards, poor. After the first couple of weeks of r5 Fury was a bit of a machine.
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Well we overestimated r5 xanadu as well. Legion in round 5 were a bit of a joke. Still better than most, but by Legion's standards, poor. After the first couple of weeks of r5 Fury was a bit of a machine.
Which you expected :P
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